B&O Beoremote HALO, Unboxing and First Look at the Most Luxurious Remote They have EVER Made! in 4k!
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Today I can bring you an Unboxing and a First Look at the brand new Beoremote Halo made by Bang & Olufsen! It's a special and the most Luxurious Remote Bang & Olufsen has ever made in my opinion! You can get yours now too as they all are available from today at dealers like Bang & Olufsen Ter Horst, here in Utrecht :D
Thanks to Bang & Olufsen Ter Horst for making this possible:
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The Netherlands
Tel: +31(0)30 231 3483
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Hi everyone, Massive Thanks goes out to Bang & Olufsen Ter Horst here in Utrecht for providing the Beoremote Halo for review! You can find him in the description and also here: www.onlineplayshop.nl/ Also if you liked the video, please consider subscribing for more and leaving a like as that helps me out a great deal :D Thank you very much for watching and I'll see you in the next one! :D PS, don't forget to let B&O know what you'd like them to expand on for the remote here in the comments!
This surely needs to have album art? or radio station logos? Even the B&O app provides both..
yeah, that would require a layout change though, not opposed to it although I like it as is too and they could move the album art to the side. I like that it'll always, even now, tell you what's playing :D
Thanks for the video. It definitely needs to be able to browse deezer playlists and show the album art of what's playing - basically do what the mobile app does. A BLGW/BLI menu for light control and executing macros would be nice too! For TV control a guide button is a must have.
I very much agree, they should implement this! Thank you for commenting and watching :D
Thanks for the video. Is it working with beovision avant 1st Gen? Needs a color display with album art etc. for spotify control and other streaming sources imo.
No it does not atm, but good to know and also let your dealer know, B&O may need all of us to push them to make that work!
Deezer only in 2020.... HELLOOOOO
Spotify not being present is because Spotify not allowing it to be shared over NL, it's not like B&O doesn't want to have it in everything. But Spotify seems to be changing course so there may be hope for it. Spotify throwing a fit at B&O is not on B&O :p
Hi Mike! I am using sound stage. So can i use it and then have 4 preset for tunein radio and spotify my favorite album etc.. ?
You can now since the latest update also use it with an LG C9 and up to control the TV and apps and such too :D
@@Mikipedia thank you mike!
Thank you for this honest review. What do you think about the responsiveness of the volume control? Is it as delayed and slow as the essence remote?
oh no, it's instant. I think it actually may be faster even than the beoremote 1. It's now my go-to volume control because it's so quick :p
Thanks for the video Mike, one of the questions that I had was how does it work PoE, now i understand that it works solely for the wall version only.
Can you browse music on your own library?
If you use it with Deezer, does it just go through your favourite channels when you select next channel, or is it all of them?
With your Harmony, if you select Netflix as a source, does it start up Netflix on your Horizon? (Stupid q., but i thought I’d ask the obvious)
Is Video Engine 1 the 2014 Avant?
Are the MyButtons source specific? Ie do you have only four “global” my buttons? Or are they different depending on what product you’re controlling?
Thank you
PoE is just for power, not network, as it's Power over Ethernet(cable) :p
1: atm no, wish it could! update to come when it comes obviously.
2. don't entirely understand what you mean, but next track is the next track in the playlist you are currently using.
3: Yes it'll start up netflix or any other source no problem.
4: No, the Avant is video engine 4. The original avant (28''/32'') was video engine 1, so very old :p
5: they are different per product, but you can sort of link them if the mybutton is multiroom. so yes and no, sort of lol.
Hey Michael, do you know if it’s possible to save a Deezer playlist as one of the favourites? I can’t seem to get the favourites to work.
On which device, because the halo takes over the mybuttons from the device you connect it too? I managed to do it on the Harmony, but for some weird reason I had to log myself out of deezer and then back in again and now it just works.
It is absolutely gorgeous, as you said too. I wouldn't describe it any other way! The only missed chance I see is it missing infrared to control "Beo4 compatible devices". A friend of mine is buying a Beovision 8 - 40 this weekend, I received a Beovision 8 - 32 yesterday, both beautiful devices! Absolutely love them. I can image there are people who are still satisfied with TV's like that, or like my BV7-40 for instance and don't want to buy a new TV but would be interested to get the newest, most fancy remote either because it's beautiful or because of it's amazing features and ease of use since 750 euros is doable. :) Other than that.... great review, once again and a really stunning new product! :D
only reason I haven't given you a hart is that you have no improvement suggestions for the Halo lol
I guess they feel like I do in that it's a bit silly to keep on supporting legacy products like this that they haven't made in years and years. Plus most of the screen wouldn't work over IR as there is no 2 way communication so it's a bit of a dub in that case. You can still get a beoremote 1 with IR if you want though, it's a different button layout than the BT version!
@@Mikipedia Yeah, it's hard to give an improvement suggestion, since I don't own any "modern" products. All I see is a beautiful looking and working device and I need to trust your opinion on it, so I agree to it, since I have no experience with the newer products either, other than all the updates you guys give in the vids and podcast. :)
I also understand what you mean! With computers I am exactly the same to be honest. Like: Why still support 32 bits Windows?! Buy a new PC FFS! xD But this with the remote hits me personally
@@Jondedy Oh I in no way want to say your argument is invalid, I just meant to explain why they (B&O) did it. I wouldn't really use it but I wouldn't mind IR control, but they are not planning using IR at all anymore in future products. Any other company wouldn't give this much backwards compatibility already, most like sonos just drop support all together. But that doesn't mean B&O gets a pass either :p
@@Mikipedia That's absolutely true! The Beoremote One does have support for older tv's, right? Also a pretty beautiful remote with in my opinion a modernized Beo4 feel to it :D
yes it does :D
Does it work with the Beovision 7 60" ?
No it doesn't work with a beovision 7, but are you sure that's the one you have as it didn't come in 60''?!
Will it work with a Core integrated with a BV11 to control audio sources / volume?
I think so through the core, but am not 100% on that as I don't have either. Your dealer should definitely know for sure :) but I'll try and check in to it too!
Could you tell me exactly how you have integrated the core with a BV11 please? Thanks
@@EbbesenBrian It's a network integration over an Ethernet LAN. In the BV11 menus you can integrate the TV (a video master) with a B&O Audio master (Moment, Core). Then the Audio product can use the speakers connected to the TV, and the TV remote can control the audio etc.
Thank you for the information 👍🏻
On the fence with the software but it looks dam nice, will definitely be purchasing via John or Ian from B&0
Plus Great review..
Thank you Matt, B&O Manchester is a great shop, so from me to you, thank you for supporting them too! They're a lovely bunch over there :D
What’s your opinion on the Edge ? Vs the A9
The edge is technically more capable but I'd pick the A9 every time.
add infrared also for all B&o stuff
I don't think they will as non of the new stuff uses IR anymore
@@Mikipedia I know that this type of connection is no longer popular, but why don't companies think about a large crowd of people with a different era of technology, They don't want to make money? and all the same clients will receive a new gift. this is the most stupid policy, and we must not forget that they are not an apple with greedy politics. the history of our company was in the conscientiousness and durability of products, but what in return? we get raw, inappropriate products that cannot be called Bang & Olufsen
Does it work with the Core?
Yes it does, mybuttons and all! :D
Things I would like to have included in future software/hardware updates are:
1) BLGW support
2) NL/ML BeoLink Converter support
3) Moment, VE3, etc. support.
4) Light/Control commands
5) Touch to join product-group or all multiroom products
6) BeoRemote Halo My Buttons which are easy to access in order to map custom outcomes (like start deezer in kitchen, TuneIn in bedroom)
7) Setting if it should return to default product after X time or after All Standby so you always know what product you end up using when you walk by it in the morning/after work.
8) Proximity sensor to show what's currently playing when you first approach it and then as you close in get more detailed info (like the BS35)
9) IR-support
10) Customizable menus (ability to order/turn off menu options)
11) Easy enough interface to my wife to use
12) Proximity sensor event to trigger actions (either configurable in product or with BLGW)
13) Touch volume to turn on product
14) Discrete station/album logos
You get it, B&O watch this space! :D
PS Thank you Alex!
Would be nice if in the future it could also be used as a Roon Remote and in combination with Qobuz (not Spotify or Deezer)
even deezer would be nice, for me lol. But even if it's a more simple design for control that would be a huge upgrade and I for one second your position.
@@Mikipedia Michael, I have used Spotify and Deezer in the past, but since we have the 50's that's no longer an option, they deserve higher quality input.
@@jangoormans631 oh for sure, they need to take care of us Beolab 50 and 90's owners for sure! especially looking at the price point both the speakers and the remote comes in!
@@jangoormans631Hi, i am sure you know that Deezer has Deezer Hifi for CD quality :)
Wonder it one can truly differentiate CD from Master quality (same source material for no mastering discernable differences)
@@JoeGillian0 , we thought about Deezer Hifi , but after comparing that to Qobuz Hi-rez while listening to the 50's the choice was easy made.
It does make a difference.
And also important, Roon does not support Deezer Hifi (only Qobuz and Tidal).
It’s a tremendous remote control and essentially that’s all it is . I love to use it for listening to music when having a beer it’s beautifully tactile . I agree Miki Thu it would be nice not to have to use my mobile phone on Apple Music and only the Halo .
Hope it's because it's beta software but that lag on the touch screen is pretty rough
it actually isn't irl, I have giant fingers and was messing about looking through the screen of my camera trying to stay in focus and I wasn't pressing right lol. Try one in a shop, it's pretty instant :D
@@Mikipedia I thought the swiping looked a bit laggy. Also noticed that in Henrik's video. I hope to try one out this sunday! Very excited to see how it looks and feels in real.
it may also be camera frame rate, but it doesn't feel like it at all to me IRL.
Jondedy yeah and I also saw the same lagging on the bang-olufsen site. But maybe it dosen’t feel like it. Not good to show it on film though
@@jonaseriksson2367 I don't know how not to make it appear so atm on camera, but looking at it with my eyes I don't see it :p
Stage compatible?
yep, absolutely!
Thnks for the video. Going to try it in the shop utrecht this week. Kind a hoping it will be able to control music through my dlna server in a decent way.
Nice one Paul, Demian will help you out! Tell him I sent you and that I say ''Hi'' :p His shop is great, I am sure you'll have a good time!
@@Mikipedia bought the beoremote. Bronze. It is beautiful. Responsive. But with the beoplay a9 mk iv it is a bit limited. The four presets can only be set up as google home shortcuts. And thats a bit slow and cumbersome. Tunein on the other hand is super responsive. I hope b&o will give me the option not to connect it with google home (not a fan)as updates come.
Hi Paul, Congrats with the Halo! There is a semi hidden option for that buy I believe you'll loose the ability for any of the google services in that case. So it's not a situation where you sort of can switch between the two on the fly. But if you reset the A9, I am fairly sure, you can set it up as a B&O Airplay speaker. It should pop up as local network, you connect to it with your phone and that's how you can skip the whole ''google'' installation bit. But that'll also mean that you won't be able to use the google services until you do a full reset again and install it the normal way. Hope that helps and answers your question?
@@Mikipedia i did not know that. Going to try it. Thanks!
Tried it. It is an airplay speaker now. Too bad it means you completely lose functionality of the presets (you cant safe anything on it). Unless I am doing something wrong...
Hi Miki I love your positivity and enthusiasm in your vlogs! :) The design reminds me of the new Mini Cooper centre control unit - even the display before Apple CarPlay came to it :) I'm rather conflicted on your Halo display as the second that I saw it, it kind of reminds me of tech in 2005 before the days of the iPhone. Surely scrolling on your iPhone X - 11 Pro would be a more pleasant and faster experience along with the cover art on display etc? I do feel that it is an older, rich mans toy as in the 21st century, it's more about simplicity and needing less hence why the smartphone has thrived for over 12 years now - which is unusual in tech. What is your thought?
Keep up the great work! Love from Barcelona!
Maybe I am an old man at heart already? lol
I guess it's a B&O thing and for some reason people keep saying it looks choppy on video, and all I can thing of is that it may be the framerate all our camera's are in as in real life it's fast and very smooth. I personally feel that it needs some work still but it's really easy to use, especially when you have several products around the house, switching from product to product feels quicker to me than even on my phone. To me if I sit down, my phone tends to be in my pocket and reaching this remote is easier and controlling volume and skipping tracks is front and center on the Halo where as in the app it's always a click away. don't get me wrong, I like the app, but I don't like holding my phone all day. I do like holding this or having it sit next to me on the table, and it's just there to use all the time. I honestly didn't think I would use this as much as I do when I first got it, but I do. And with some improvements I could see this becoming my main remote quite easily :D
@@Mikipedia Wow, you sound as though you are loving it! Your videos don't look choppy to me either on my MacBook Pro or viewed on the Apple TV with Frame Rate Match. Maybe you could try shooting in 60 fps or maybe it's just the display of the Halo remote playing with your camera. Hope that you have lots of fun with the Halo! My favourite remote of all time is the Apple TV 4K remote although the majority of people seem to hate it - so I guess you can't win :)
lol no, but you basically already won as it's your favourite and who cares what anyone else thinks :p I'll bring the updates when the Halo get's the updates :D
@@Mikipedia Hope that you are still having lots of fun with the Halo :) We are watched a classic late 80s film on the ATV this evening - Kevin Costner Field of Dreams - remastered in 4K HDR :) Classic! :)
What is the likelihood of being able to control previous platform TVs.....BS4 engine TVs.....they are not the old, and there re plenty of them out there in the wild..
minimal I think as this only communicates over BT and IP, so unless it's a BT based system there is no chance of even beginning to work...
@@Mikipedia John @ B&O Manchester explained to me it's because BV11's are only 'video master' products and not 'audio masters' in B&O parlance, whereas the Eclipse and Harmony are both video & audio masters.
@@hostler That makes sense, at least to me :p thanks for checking, John is great and you deserve a ''heart'' :D
Moreover: does anyone have intell if apple will buy B&O??
No, there seems to be no interest as in the last few stock options they didn't buy any shares.
it looks epic, however it needs to be able to group speakers so that with one move you can up or down the volume for a selected group of speakers. For that price I would expect a lot more functionality. For a seventh of the price consider Logitech Harmony :-D At least that one can be grouped.
It can control that though, if you multiroom in all the desired speakers it'll function like a master volume control :) Multiroom is very easy through the Beoremote Halo and has worked flawlessly for me every time :)
@@Mikipedia Except that you'll have a delay in the same room when you have multiple multiroom speakers in a room or you are trying to play from the TV through Core or Stage. (running both at the same time)
@@JLlilhampton depends on how you do it, if you airplay in to one and share it around you shouldn't. I tend to use AP a lot and it seems flawless. You can also play around with latencies, but multiroom tends to suggest multiple rooms lol. So maybe connect more to the core or use one or the other in the same room if you can't fix it in latencies or don't want to use CC or AP. loads of options :p
Thanks for your thoughts and observations....is it going to be the giveaway for this week's show?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
lol, *in Sméagol voice* It's mine, my precious! :p
@@Mikipedia Great comeback 👍👍
waarom geen spotify geïntegreerd in de Halo
Because it's a remote that takes on and controls the integrated sources of each device you connect it to.
We can be guaranteed that it won’t do half of what it probably should do and what it can do that will be plagued with software problems that won’t be resolved even 2 years from now before it’s dropped and discontinued 3 years from now. Struggling see how this more convenient than a Beosound Essence remote and an app on your phone which you unlock and access on less than 3 seconds.
I disagree as I think they are finally going in the right direction software wise, but I understand the frustration if you're coming from the beosound moment. I already think it's way more useful than an Essence and you can also already do much more with it more quickly. But time will tell, the roadmap looks good and also achievable :) Thanks for commenting and watching :D
It's a pretty piece of kit, but given its functionality I don't think I need one!
That's fair! It'll be expanded software wise so maybe check it out again in 6-9 months or so? Thank you for watching and commenting :D
Ofcourse it must pilot TVs in the future....change channels etc etc......
I just heard when it went live to premiere that it will be able to control the tv much much more in a future update, so good news :D
I wonder how that will work for the many of us who are using Apple TV and the like for streaming TV... Any rumors?
@@andersagerskov what is the aptv connected to? if eclipse or harmony they should at least get basic controls in an update through puc.
Mikipedia - thanks for the quick response. Have ATV’s connected to all sorts of displays and a projector, but not yet B&O. Was pondering getting the B&O Stage and LG CX77.
@@andersagerskov I am not sure that would work with a Halo, as a Stage + LG does not a beovision make. So I'll have to check that and get back to you once it's in an update :)
Most luxurious? You must be kidding. Beolink 7000 is way more luxurious. Still using it now and then. And no, I did Not vote down. Cheers
No worries, I thought about it and I think this edges that out. Both are amazing obviously and both are fairly insane, but this is more useable and rotatable alu volume man, it's so cool :D But the bl7000 is obviously more iconic at this stage, this just launched lol
and the price is..........well?
Price here in Europe is 750 euro, but prices change according to where you are. You could've googled it.
Good thing B&O designed it to be a circle; because it looks like they cut every other corner. That display in 2020 is garbage. It should have been released with an OLED (which the Beoremote One has) instead of an LCD; preferably with a 120Hz refresh rate for future-proofing. The design itself is stunning; but even on the B&O website the software stutters in one of the demo clips. It's not useful enough to be an iPad replacement, it's too big to be a "new" Beo 5/6 (even though you have to configure it like one with the app), and that screen will glow blue in the dark even though it's intended to be black. This could have been great, could still be; but a product should never be sold on the promises of it getting better with software updates.
I like the display, oled would've been nice but I think the pixel lifetime is a problem for oled still. Some br1's are starting to have burn in and that display is going to be on a lot less than this one is. In real life the screen isn't choppy at all. I still like it and I like where they're going with it, if that somehow fails, I like it as is enough too to keep. but everyone has their own preferences obviously :)
So true lol
@@Mikipedia Honestly, I really hope you're right and I may have been a bit harsh; but B&O doesn't seem to know what their focus is currently and it shows. I want them to stop focusing on their fashion branding/marketing and use that money to make products that warrant the price their asking. And besides; B&O don't release products frequently enough to ever justify outdated tech upon release. I genuinely love the brand and want it to succeed; but this isn't how you maintain brand loyalty. This is a product only intended for people with existing "current" B&O equipment which is a terribly small group of people to begin with; tied with the fact that it looks unfinished and the $900 price tag (basically the cost of three new iPads) makes this a hard product to justify or even recommend.
This is the reason people argue that B&O isn't worth it's price; especially here in the US and this isn't going to help that at all. Go all the way if you're going to ask that price. Add a motorized stand like the BeoLink7000 and give the option for both wall and table orientation. Add IR support and the ability for people with existing Beo5/6 configuration profiles to use with this device. Maybe even a smaller version intended to replace the BR1 or Beo6 with a circular OLED (sourced from a smartwatch manufacturer) and that volume mechanism using the B&O app as the configurator instead of making dealers program it. Right now the Halo looks like a Nest thermostat; only worse. Soon enough B&O are going to run out of people who will make excuses for things that should have been taken care of from the start. Let's not forget that compatibility for Beo5 on release stretched back all the way to the 80's; but the product still failed and the Halo is only rated for 10 products on release without any IR support at all. A top of the line logitech harmony is $350 and controls almost everything. Halo is more than twice as much and can control almost nothing. There is a market for a high end universal remote and this design with some development could be something iconic within the B&O range; drawing an entirely new group of people to the brand. It's like being upset at someone for not trying as hard and you know they can and have in the past.
Anyways; here's to hoping that Gen 2 will be more fleshed out.
Cheers
Mikipedia he’s right!
He’s right. I wish a company like Sonos would borrow bang and Olufsens product (read aesthetics) designers to make something that is actually useful and looks beautiful. Rather then them wasting their design talents on “solutions looking for problems”. In this day and age b&o is really only good for their speakers and older TVs ( newer TVs are just so impractical with old technology and unnecessarily heavy/expensive)+ beosound 9000. I feel they’ll be out of business in 10 years if they don’t change their philosophy. $900 for an application u can get from the App Store for free.... yikes.
@@obinna12 This is exactly the point I've been trying to make! Thank you! B&O these days is becoming a company that releases products laden with excuses and workarounds. And with their customer service being appalling; the overall experience isn't worth people buying into the brand as it stands today. I understand that for the people with B&O's current range; they've come to expect this and hold out for things to get better, but is that a rewarding experience? As we all know; B&O are closing dealer locations all around the world, and does this seem like a product that's going to fix that? Objectively no and if they ever want to "successfully" expand into the US; they need to be looking at an entry product for a "younger" audience that isn't another pair of (albeit quality) headphones. The Halo as it stands currently is nothing more than a beautify designed money grab and not enough people are holding B&O accountable for it.
B&O makes Furniture not audiophile grade equipment
lol, what a salty thing to say on a video about a remote control.
Looking at the master remote on the table it looks to me like design has gone backwards not forwards. Rather have that than this gimmick
that thing is heavy AF as it has several D cell batteries inside and is directional :p
@@Mikipedia But it's classy and sleek , unlike the crap bno make nowadays
@@flappospammo I disagree and besides that remote looking nice it's anything but sleek :p
@@Mikipedia The modern bno designers are no Lewis / Jensen , i wouldn't trust them to design a lightbulb
@@flappospammo Torsten Valeur is literally Lewis' protégé. But I guess you don't like the bl18's or bl17's either then?
Or just use your iPhone and save 700 quid
Loool!!
the whole problem of the company is the lack of really smart engineers and programmers. you can't go far on marketing.
They have the engineers, just not enough programmers atm imho.
He’s right. I wish a company like Sonos would borrow bang and Olufsens product (read aesthetics) designer to make something that is actually useful and looks beautiful. Rather then them wasting their design talents on “solutions looking for problems”. In this day and age b&o is really only good for their speakers and older TVs ( newer TVs are just so impractical with old technology and unnecessarily heavy/expansive)+ beosound 9000.
The background music in your videos is SOOOO annoying.
as in you would like better/different or none?
@@Mikipedia none.
B&O only sells high-priced designs. The sound quality does not match the price!
Clearly you're wrong on several levels as not even all of it is expensive at all. Secondly you seem like the type of person that looks at a Rembrandt or van Gogh and think's ''that's a bit expensive for canvas and some paint!'' Lastly you copy paste the same comment, which is rather lazy and unoriginal.
Typical out of touch bno garbage , they really have lost the plot with this
So in other words, you think it's the perfect product for you? Congratulations :D