Delta Air Lines Cuts Its Only Daytime Europe-Bound Service
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
- If you’ve ever flown from North America to Europe, you’ll know that most flights are overnight services with arrival at the destination in the morning. However, there are a few daytime flights that take travelers to europe. Delta Air Lines has only one of them: Flying from New York JFK to Paris Charles de Gaulle.
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I wonder if this year's Delta daytime flight to Paris was more related to Paris hosting the Olympics and Paralympics this year, especially with the partnership Delta signed with Team USA.
Most Eastward Flights departures are in the Evening, arriving at your destination early in the morning
People can attend business meetings, or go to work , if that's your final destination
If your final destination is further away, that's the perfect time to make it to another flight
Unless you can get some rest in the business class, you are rendered useless for the entire day anyway.
You arrive at night and can go to sleep and get yourself set on local time faster. Also, your room is ready.
Exactly, you can rest and go on with your day refreshed, especially in Business. And you can also connect onward to most other destinations.
Flying out of BOS, I really appreciate the variety of BA/AA offerings to LHR, and as a poor sleeper on planes, I absolutely love the BA 7:30am flight, which really helps with jetlag and you get a hotel bed waiting for you in London. The issue will be for those needing to proceed further on in Europe it can be struggle connecting, though it can work for many flights to Asia which are late departures anyways. No more 6:00am arrivals wandering the streets like a zombie waiting for a bed. Though if you are good sleeper, overnights can save you a hotel room and maybe from taking an extra day off from work.
I took this flight 2 weeks before Olympics. It was 40% full😢
That’s not a bad thing as a passenger
@@jlmarc01 It's fabulous from a passenger's perspective, but there's no way an airline is going to keep that schedule if 40% is the average passenger load.
Daytime flights eastbound are so much more civilised. You arrive rested, not having tried to sleep on the plane. An unexpected benefit I found when I flew from JFK to London was that the arrival hall was empty with no queue.
I flew that service in May 2024. It was sold out. I sat up front and SLEPT the entire flight. I’ll sleep on a bed on any flight at any time of the day. Need not be only overnight services. Sorry that their yields did not sustain this service. I loved flying to Europe with a night arrival in time for a REAL bed and start the NEXT day totally refreshed (as opposed to FRESH of a flight). At the end of the conversation, I simply love flying!!!
I flew AA's daytime ORD-LHR rout in August. Premium cabins were full but economy was half empty. I loved the flight though, and not being forced to sleep in an economy seat overnight is great. I wish there were more daytime transatlantic flights
We have flown from the central us to Europe 9 times in the last 19 years. Our 2015 flight was into LHR. Previous flights for us were into CDG, 2005,07 and 11. The nice part of an arrival in the AM is the ability to walk and explore while you get your internal clock reset. Stay on your feet as long as you can, enjoying your destination, and get a good night sleep. Up early the next morning and all is good. The trip we arrived in the evening was a mess. Late arrival at the hotel and a terrible time getting to sleep. Just a few hours of sleep, exploring and we crashed early. You can normally get some decent exploring in before spending an expensive night in a hotel. I would never arrive late again. You can arrive too early as we did in CDG , late November 2021. Our flight was set at arrive at 6:30 am. I did not want to be a nomad for 9 hours before our room would be ready. I booked the room for the night before our arrival, on points, so we could have a place to crash and enjoy the free breakfast. This entire trip was on points, BC flights and 14 nights hotel, so I was not going to start it out on the wrong foot.
Most likely airport landing slots are more expensive during the day than at night or early morning
as a non rev for delta the night flights are awesome for short trips, but if I were booking confirmed id book the day flight. I can immediately check into my hotel and be well rested for the next day and give you some time to explore if you're transferring the next day
Also something is up with delta’s flight pricing. The old standard that flights were cheaper when you bought them earlier isn’t holding up. I’ve gotten hundreds back this year from buying 3-6 months ahead and just watching the flight. First time it’s been significant money
Air Canada does a really good job in terms having the aircraft filled during the daytime to and from Europe
We all hate night flights to Europe. Miserable sleep, if any, you get to Europe too early to check into a hotel, and you are a walking zombie on Day 1. Wouldn't it be great to leave the East Coast late morning or early afternoon, a 6 or 7 hour hop to London or Paris, get in late, but go right to sleep? I did it once. BA flight JFK to London, left JFK around 10AM, great flight, landed it was dark, went straight to my hotel for my morning connection, and stared at the ceiling for hours. I was WIDE awake and by the time I fell asleep, it was time to wake up. Never did it again. In the end, those miserable night flights flying east actually are better. Something the airlines have actually understood for decades. They shouldn't be, but they are.
AA does this and it’s working!
Obviously they did what needed to do. If passenger weren’t supporting it, DL had only one choice. I was wondering about freight and mail which was not mentioned.
Delta has been cutting Europe flights , LAX & LHR among others , Untied is quickly catching up to Delta . Delta definitely trending downward . I much rather fly to Europe on a daytime flight than a red eye
Interesting, didn’t see this coming. 🤔🧐
That's the problem of eastbound flights in general. Just imagine the jetlag as well.
What about the daily Delta flights from Seattle to Amsterdam? Atlanta to Amsterdam?
I did it on air Canada in 2018 from Toronto
I know that I am in the minority, but I would love more daytime eastbound transatlantic flights.
Redeye eastbound flights increase my jetlag significantly since I will never sleep as well on a plane as I do in a hotel bed, even in Business class.
And I won't work on a travel day anyway since I am barely conscious after such a trip.
I only had the luxury of an eastbound daytime flight once but I would choose it again if offered.
I took this flight a few weeks ago. It was great but it was half empty. It was a nice cheap flight.
CP Air many years ago used to have a 7am flight from Toronto to London it was great you would usually get to London around dinner time check into your room get a good night's sleep and be refreshed for the next morning and the return flight left in the evening for a morning arrival in Toronto the stopped it when Air Canada took over CP Air And Wardair kinda miss it you were actually more relaxed for business meeting's the he next day
So long as they keep DL1 JFK-LHR going that’s all that matters to me. I have a thing for flight #1s
The reverse also applies, all flights from Europe depart in the morning, so for delta I guess it makes little sense to fly Europe - USA in the evening (reverse)
WOW
They used to have Milan as well. Shame.
what will be delta future as if more cut even if not profitable or get passengers because of market and while competition of others both usa and european but even still how would you provide service if cut whatever time because it not sustainable but how does emirate qatar etihad would do if they were doing have market try as if they going be big number 1 compare american united but it seems less even if they expand as they started asia
Why did you not mention jetBlue’s day time flights?
Do they not fly to Amsterdam?
No.
They do. And partner with KLM. But you will be flying on Delta across the pond.
@@aeray3581 You missed the sense of the question, maybe because it was phrased strangely. I answered that Delta does fly to AMS.
Delta is horrible now. They have eliminated almost all international flights and instead rely on code shares with Korean air, klm, and Air France…. Absolutely garbage for its customers… also the most expensive frequent flier program…. Just bad
I've been Platinum Medallion with Delta for more than 10 years. They have no regard for their loyal passengers, and the highest prices out of Atlanta. I'm flying with the competition - better service, newer aircraft, lower prices. They have gutted their frequent flyer programs, so if they don't care about my business, I owe them nothing at this point.
@@davidh9844 exactly!
Delta is always the most expensive choice for no apparent reason.
@@peregrino9154 United is always the worst with overpriced tickets
@@davidh9844 Delta, like all the airlines, is chasing the almighty dollar. While I won't disagree that they've done a tremendous disservice to their loyal passengers by decimating their loyalty programs and lounges, I will say that they do remain the best airline for friendly, professional service--from customer service agents, to airport personnel, to cabin crew. When I fly with the other airlines, I find that the food is better, but the service is hostile, so I have to wonder which model is better.
Why more flights to London than Paris. London sucks.
Northwest airlines better
Not everywhere. Detroit was a huge Northwest market, and that's the reason for Delta's dominance there now. I can't think of anyone in the area who liked Northwest--some were even writing to the FAA to ask the agency to ground NWA.