Motorcycle Chain and Sprockets, Don't make these common mistakes!
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This all started with a viewers common, It highlighted the common issues you hear people have and there is simply no need for it. If you follow some basic rules and avoid these mistakes!
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Mate don’t feel bad about generalising, whenever a 125 comes in at work, we’re all excited about it when one has a properly lubricated and adjusted chain. Also had a guy come in the other day who was confused how his chain was dry because his engine oil was at the proper level, he thought the engine oil lubricated it
Oh God how did the person talking to them keep a straight face 😂
@@spicy110 not to mention how (s)he, they/them ~lol. stormed through the cbt and came away without such basic maintenance knowledge, truly worrying whats out there
spicy110 they didn’t 😂 Dave thought you the guy was joking at first, the guy was a bit embarrassed but he took it upon himself to tell me what a “fuckin idiot” he was 😂
That’s why he brought the bike to you, he didn’t profess to be an expert.
@@frankiepitt9135 yes…. That was the point of the comment
Thanks for the video. Got my CBT booked in a few weeks, at 34 years old, and it's these types of videos I am finding invaluable at the moment.
Glad it was helpful!
17 year old me is saying no get the 3 foot breaker bar tighten them up till your elbow clicks that's about 100 ft-lb. 30 year old me is looking back saying how the hell did I make it to 30
WWTFMAN 1989 ditto
Haha is it now more like 50 ft-lb before your elbow clicks? 😂
Last time I was this early, my girlfriend was very disappointed!
poor lass! HAHA
@@spicy110 Mr. Magnum Dong 😂
Dunning-Kruger 👌🏼
Really enjoyed this one. As a first time rider, 125 and nearly 48, I’m slowly learning. My chain and sprockets will need doing soon, my 32yr old son has been riding bikes for years and years and helps me with most things but when I mentioned they would need doing? “Not touching it dad, take it to a mechanic you trust.” 👍🏼
You deserve so much more recognition dude such a great and informational video!
thank you for making this video,iv just went to do some bits to my bike and looked at my sprocket because of this video and found it loose ,i did make a video on what happened .thank you
I've snapped those sprocket bolts on my 450 crosser! Ripped the sprocket of the hub. A big knot of chain, sprocket and swing arm. I look after my bike but still it happen. Right now I have always an eye out on those bolts. Also look at other bikes and warn the riders.
top video mate hope you and reeno had a good day
I remember riding my adrenaline without realizing that I was missing an axle nut and the axle was hanging half out
Stainless bolts have less tensile strength than their alloy steel bolts counterparts. Safety is the topic of the video, so I figured it was worth mentioning.
👍 worth mentioning but they are well within limits so will a better option over the one's that rusted.
Could have been throttle cable slack too dude. Did they specify what was actually loose? Also with the sprocket carrier, were the studs snapped or the nuts sheared off from the chain? 👍 great video tho, i used to be a self employed bike mechanic, and the amount of times i heard "oh my mate did this" is unreal, i have seen some absolute nightmares 😂
He did specifically mention the housing with moving.
Hi i made a mistake and did not adjust mine on a old Honda H100 but i was always. Checking my chain and socket i learned from my dad that you need to check everything on a bike every day be for riding because its your lifr thats on the line great video spicy keep it up and happy new year
I love the videos and thanks for all the info you give. I have a question I have a lexmoto lxr 125, and a couple of days i noticed I have a weird noise it's hard to describe the noise but its weird only happens when riding any idea on what it could be.
No, I would need much much more info than that.
It's sort of like a ticking noise, I hear it more when I'm in 2nd 3rd and 4th
Seriously that is impossible to answer. Wish I could help but the expectation is unrealistic.
All good points, but just FYI, many bikes don't have a hole on the bars, even OEM, many are just held on by torquing the bolts, and I've never seen the controls rotate on them. Maybe it's more of a dirt bike or Chinese bike thing, because I haven't dealt with them really.
I did give people the Benefit of the doubt they would try and tighten the mounts first but yer it's worth pointing out. 👍
Using a pin to locate the throttle housing, and other handlebar fittings, is a relatively modern thing. For most of the last 100 years handlebar fittings and controls just clamp to the bars. A simple construction method that works well.
All fasteners on a bike can work loose due to vibration which is why you should check them regularly (and why we have threadlock).
Throttle housing moving/twisting PLUS damage to rear sprocket and chain are classic symptoms of novice rider addicted to pulling wheelies and trying to win the Traffic Light Grand Prix at every opportunity. Most either learn how to maintain their bikes properly and gain some mechanical sympathy... or they remove themselves from the gene pool.
Surely it’s 6 Ugga duggas which is exactly torqued to spec?
Good video 👍 as a fairly newly rider. Especially with limited bike mechanical knowledge I found this very helpful. Thank you
New rider here (not that young though), so sorry for question bombardment!
Where do you get tension values for Chinese bikes? I seem to fail to find them online for my Keeway 125.
I would also appreciate info where do you get parts for specific Chinese bikes? Sites like CMPO or MotoGB seem to only have few bits, not like entire bike and usually some universal parts.
Also how tight should you go with rear axle? I found it to be pretty tight, had to use breaker bar to undo it.
Good video Spicy, I'm looking forward for more of this kind!
Hi i have a question.. can the bad chain effect the the rear abs breaks last week i had changed the clutch plates and i adjusted the chain witch is in bad condition… so after that the rear break it become very bad the abs system is opening very early even if press the pedal softly 🥲🥲 so you have any idea about the problem
I was watching Guy Martin swapping a rear sprocket on his world speed record bike at Elvington, gunned bolts off, new sprocket on, buzzed back up and off to do 297mph 😲
Yep because he is a mechanic, if you know your tools you can do that, but when teaching new people who don't have the experience you do not show or teach stuff like that, it is risky.
My 1st bike was a Lexmoto ZSF 125 and it was a great little motorbike! 👏👏 Many people complain about chinese motorbikes but like any other motorbikes, look after it and will last a long time, the sprockets and chain on my little work horse had 16.000 miles (All original, never replaced sprockets or chain for the whole 4 years that I had the motorbike 👍) and still had loads of life left before I sold it 👍 I did look after it and that is why it lasted! I moved to bigger motorbikes after passing my full motorbike test and I am on another league now 🤩 It was 1 of the best things I done in my life, love riding 🥰 be safe 😊
Maybe you should do a beginner's guide to common maintenance and what's right and wrong
Your right about when u get older u tend to do things right. when your younger you think that will do I adusted my chain and didn't know the torque settings for rear axle nut didn't ride bike till I did.
COMP-PRE-HEN-SIVE 👍👍👍👊👊👊🖖
Who needs a torque wrench when you can just use the good old fashion method of 'FT'. For those unaware of this mechanics trick of the trade FT stands for 'Fucking Tight'.
C2W 😉
Thanks for your advice on that.
is durex off the table for chains?
Thread lock on rear sprocket ? Or not a good idea
its going to go BANG BANG BANG and its gone :)
I know this bike good chain sprockets fucked needs a fair bit of work to get it looking good
wow I am early too................👍
You forget about cush drive play
You forget about lock tight
Really useful video. New to proper bikes I have owned cars for many years & done some basic service & maintenance bits. Bikes a bit like learning a new language to me at the moment.
SUBSCRIBED.......Not the most exciting subject...You kept me engaged by focusing on details supported by context & relevance.
A lot to be said for doing or causing critical jobs to be done properly & with proper use of any job essential tools. Torque settings so important...especially for unfamiliar & safety critical fastenings.
Not sure how much I will end up doing myself but 1st thing I bought for my bike was a Haynes manual. (J.I.S. screwdrivers being sourced too).
Why anyone would risk a moving bike thrown chain scenario is beyond me.
Thanks
Love the video mate. Kinda enjoyed your conscientious frustration. I'm in the 'youthfully courageous' category when it comes to bike maintenance but atleast I'm learning a lot. Videos like this help me grow up thanks.
This was a good video. Honestly can not stress how important a torque bar is, it gives me a sense of security that it's on properly. I have all three torque wrenches by Drapper and they cost around £30-£35 each!
There are 2 parts to keeping a brake disc or sprocket attached. Securing bolts or nuts that stop ONLY rotation. There is a centre bore to keep it in place and located and takes more of a load than you think.
If you were to cut down that bore and rely ONLY on the bolts, it would be under too much and would damage the bolts or studs.
Are you going ro make a vlock out of that sprocket?
Thank you! Hopefully some of this information will help out in the fixing and maintaining of my Kawasaki Eliminator 125cc. Also, do you know how this could be applied to the new Honda Super Cub with the chain being enclosed because I’m looking into picking one up if the work on the Kawasaki becomes a much larger problem due to the gear shifter needing a little bit of work, as well as some other general maintenance being needed.
Does anyone know the torque settings for the rear sprocket bolts for the lexmoto adrenaline efi?
4 ugga duggas
saitama fan sorry I’m English mate
saitama fan or do u mean 4 nm
Just to clarify that WD-40 do do a motorcycle range of lubes and cleaners ;) And in all honesty they be very good. Use em on my MT09 year round.
You know what I meant haha 😉👍
Reminds me that at 7100 miles my chain and sprocket could use at least a looking at.
torque spec? tight is tight, too tight is broke.
What is "HOONIGAN"?
I see it everywhere but have no clue what it is and/or means
look up their channel mate, its just guys having fun hooning cars and stuff, and while you are there check out ken blocks hoonicorn
my chain and sprockets on my new yzf r125 have lasted 6 months/5k miles and im just about to change them. i was told at purchase that the chain was o-ring and its bull. its just a cheap chain that should be on a 50cc
Yeah, get a tsubaki kit and you'll be good for years, found mine impossible to stretch
Greetings from Toronto. Not enough opportunities to ride at this time of year here so I spend lots of time tinkering. A new chain and sprocket set sounds like a very worthwhile project. Thanks for this excellent video brother.
I know a couple of people that way and I feel bad for you how long you can't ride for it's like not an option. And people don't ride here because it's 4c degrees in a bit wet! 😂
Good advice here, quite helpful. I'm just a bit confused about how to find out what torque value I need. Any advice anyone?
The bikes service manual. Or search for its service manual online
I would not advise drilling a hole in an alloy set of bars, steel would be ok, in alloy you are making yourself a crack point.
Yer I have heard this one before but it's a round hole so no stress riser and I have never heard of seen a bar snap for that reason. Ally and normal steel will bend a long way before it snaps under normal riding or even a drop. I guess if they were really old maybe. Personally I would have to see a lot more evidence for it being that begin issue that I would choose to not have a solid throttle housing.
My favorites the guy who watches too much racing and tightens his sprocket and wheel bolts with an impact wrench.
Ouch that hurt to read 🤣
Half cow, half bike...love it lol
Spicy, this is probably a different question then you normally get. If my bike has drum brakes done you know anything about disc brake conversion? Is it worth it, is there a big risk to it? Is it even done in the UK (living in Asia)
I don't imagine anyone will do that because it would require changing the rim, you would have to somehow have a bracket added onto the swing arm and a lot of the factors that would just make it more trouble than it's worth.
@@spicy110 You'd be surprised by the amount of Chinese conversion kits in the Philippines and Asian market around here, look somewhat like this: ua-cam.com/video/qh4igENKWvA/v-deo.html
Unfortunately can't find a single video about them in English. You just drill 4 holes in your drum brake, bolt the new parts on and hey presto you have a disc brake! Just thought you might find it interesting, it far cheaper to buy a bike with drum and do a conversion, getting a motorcycle with disc brakes costs almost twice the price as factory stock so a lot of locals go for it.
I thought you were supposed to only use the torque wrench to tighten and not to use it to loosen ?
Did I say to use it to undo? There is no reason to do that and I don't myself so I would agree. Unless it's a digital one and you want to know the max before it unlocks.
You are a very intelligent man spicy110 and i can see you being a great inspiration to young and New riders
Thanks very kind of you, at least I can help a bit with the early confusions.
Thanks for this video. I've been thinking I'll need to change the chain and sprockets soon. Now I know I'll need to do it at my dad's to use his torque wrench.
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@@spicy110 go to bed spicy, it's 3am 😄
Its always good to watch these as they better the understanding on what needs to be done and how. So that hopefully you dont make the same mistakes. I am not mechanically inclined at all but would love to do the work myself. Even more so that i took my bike several times last year to get work done and half the times ive had to get them to pick the bike up cos they done something wrong. But im a new rider and assumed that they would know what they are doing and that they would do it correctly. Unfortunalty in this case i think i with some of my biker pals would have been better doung the work ourselves!!!
The moral here is if you have a service agent who does good work- Stay with them. Do not try to save a few pennies by going to messrs Bodgit and Weld.
@@alandavies7127 Dont jump to conclusions. The place i took my bike to was a main dealership with a service and mot department from a very well known brand. I will now happily take it somewhere else that might be able to save be a few pennies cos some of those will actually make sure you get a bike back that is safe to be on the road. Because they are alot smaller and know what damage can be done to them from one bad review. where that same bad review wont affect a very large company in the same way.
A tip - Make sure the chain is at its tightest point on the sprockets before adjusting. Chains never wear evenly.
If your sprocket is so out of round you have to account for it when doing chain adjustments get a new sprocket or make sure is properly centralised with shims.
@@spicy110 This has nothing to do with out of round sprockets. Even a slightly worn chain wears more in one place/section than another. Over 45 years experience counts for something.
Funny you should post this, I'm just about to leave hospital after I meatgrindered my thumb through the chain on my bike, still got the knuckle, but a stupid stupid stupid mistake
i did the exact same thing just over a week ago, lost mine just below the nail. all because i decided to take a shortcut cleaning it while the bike was running. the phantom limb shit is weird.
@@theskittle7499 aww man, I'm sorry to hear that, don't worry, it doesn't really affect my ability to do anything, so I'm sure you'll be fine, just make sure to keep flexing the joint, if I don't it gets really stiff and it's kinda painful.
Have a quick recovery and try not to dwell on the mistake.
@@endomobo359 I’ve tried to laugh it off for the most part, they made incisions in my hand to pull the skin up and form a flap. It feels tight, tingly and the dressings are a pain in the arse 🤣. I’m keeping in high spirits and can’t wait to start riding again, cheers for the advice I’ll try to keep that in mind if I have the same problem.
@@theskittle7499 yeah, laughter's the best thing, easy thumb easy go, riding might suck for a bit, I think I tried to start again to early.
Are they set screws? Not bolts?
That's not a straightforward as you might think, depending what country you live in you could have a different answer. The best explanation I have seen is when James May was talking about it in one of his programmes. To my understanding of the rules of naming this would be bolts. Even the ones I'm my DRZ are tapered heads but as they have a nut on the other side they are bolts too.
@@spicy110 I see. Just something else to confuse us all!
Smash the like out of the fuck button, instead of smashing our bikes due to incompetent maintenance 😉
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The bolt head shearing off reminds me of all the rivets flying off when the titanic was taking on water
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