Courtney Act (aka Shane Jenek) on sexuality, gender fluidity, and unconscious bias

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  • Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
  • This is an excerpt from the latest episode of our podcast, Unfiltered with Oli Dugmore. Watch the rest of the interview here:
    My guest today is an international drag sensation, winning hearts and minds during their multiple TV show appearances in Australia, the UK, and the USA.
    The blonde bombshell’s rise to stardom was propelled by their appearance on Ru Paul’s Drag Race Season 6. And, in 2018, they faced off with Ann Widdecombe to become the winner of Celebrity Big Brother UK.
    But, the challenge of loving themselves in a heteronormative world wasn’t always so easy.
    Singer, drag queen, all round entertainer. You may know my guest as Courtney Act, but today they are here as Shane Jenek.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 139

  • @josephineh6154
    @josephineh6154 Рік тому +4

    These interviews are so important! Thank you @joe xx

  • @Lamartine111
    @Lamartine111 Рік тому +6

    So much of this rings true to me. I am a nonbinary fem presenting male. Most of the men I get with identify as straight or maybe bi. Many would not openly be with me because of the social stigma. I am confident that in the future instead of 'straight' and 'gay', which denotes attraction to men or women, the two main sexualities will denote attraction to masculinity or femininity.

    • @MiPointIs
      @MiPointIs Рік тому +1

      Why should it be anyone else’s business? You have a right to be yourself AND you have a right to privacy, the sooner people realise they don’t have a right to know your personal lifestyle the better for everyone! You should accept people for their personality and humanity!

    • @lee9650
      @lee9650 11 місяців тому

      A gay man is a man that is attracted to other men. Nothing to do with how feminine or masculine that man is. If a women is masculine, maybe what they may have once referred to as a "tomboy" then she is still a woman. If a man like myself is a bit feminine or camp then he is still a man. Why do we need to change our gender identity to try and highlight our personalities or character? And I don't know what a non-binary fem-presenting man is? Could you explain?

  • @thedragonsunicorn
    @thedragonsunicorn Рік тому +12

    i feel stupid to have brought into the "bimbo" persona that was portrayed on drag race. she raises very intelligent points and she's very articulate. kudos to her!

    • @TheHonestJock
      @TheHonestJock Рік тому +2

      She? Whos she?

    • @thedragonsunicorn
      @thedragonsunicorn Рік тому +3

      @@TheHonestJock courtney. i wasn't sure what pronouns to use so i thought i'd go with the safest, in-offensive option and refer to her by her drag persona/pronouns.

    • @jeanneale9257
      @jeanneale9257 Рік тому +2

      She?........... it's a Male

    • @mohammedsaleh7
      @mohammedsaleh7 Рік тому +4

      ​@@thedragonsunicornnot a criticism but I'd generally just use "they" as the safest pronoun to use

    • @DW-indeed
      @DW-indeed Рік тому

      *bought

  • @markmason2616
    @markmason2616 Рік тому +6

    You stated it was a white western issue. However, it doesn't take much research to find that regardless of gender, geography, religion, race. It's an every person condition to a greater or lesser extent.

    • @satyasyasatyasya5746
      @satyasyasatyasya5746 Рік тому +1

      conditioning isn't the issue, thats just people existing in any culture, the issue is what is that conditioning, is it rooted in good or bad things, does it lead to people being nice or cruel to eachother etc.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 Рік тому

      The West has been brainwashed by the post 1945 Liberal paradigm and is now destroying itself

    • @markmason2616
      @markmason2616 Рік тому +1

      Not bothered, it was the impression was given that it only applied to while western males. Which is nonsense.

    • @PP237PP
      @PP237PP Рік тому

      @@evolassunglasses4673 O K N A Z !

    • @deanbuck7985
      @deanbuck7985 Рік тому

      ​@@markmason2616they specifically said a western issue. Colour was not brought into it and you are displaying the reductive shock that they described by the statement.

  • @DJB01
    @DJB01 Рік тому +4

    Kylie _is_ universal!

  • @Sam-y5o6j
    @Sam-y5o6j Рік тому +3

    So much rain, the troll farms are producing a bumper crop this year.

  • @brainfog307
    @brainfog307 Рік тому +5

    👏👏👏brilliant Courtney💝👍🌻🌈☮️🍀🧚‍♂️🌊thank you

  • @HelenFire420
    @HelenFire420 Рік тому +1

    Is it just me or did I hear “for men BI men”

  • @AtheistEve
    @AtheistEve Рік тому +1

    Everything about this interview was great. Except the last second dismissal of asexuality.

  • @zxG777
    @zxG777 Рік тому

    "Would you date a trans woman?"... this question genuinely changed my life

    • @lee9650
      @lee9650 11 місяців тому

      Care to elaborate?

  • @CanOfRabbitHoles
    @CanOfRabbitHoles Рік тому +2

    great interview, but horrible abrupt ending!

  • @nickalotdegit
    @nickalotdegit Рік тому

    P.S. (because this browser won't let me edit comments) can the link to this whole episode be posted please? I have some people I need to show this to! :D

  • @EamonCoyle
    @EamonCoyle Рік тому +2

    I completely agree that we live in a society that conditions people to have certain inbuilt thoughts and opinions, and that is something that needs to be recognised and when called for challenged. I do however think we have gone way past the stage of simply challenging outwardly racist, sexist, misogynist etc. opinions; the world has lost it's ability to judge context and therefore everything gets challenged and it divides the masses further. I'm struggling to exactly say it as I mean it but I just think that everyone needs to take a step back, take a deep breath, and stop just throwing hate on top hate !!

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 Рік тому

      85% of the World isn't brainwashed in the Western Liberal paradigm. It's the West that's out of step.

    • @PP237PP
      @PP237PP Рік тому +1

      @@evolassunglasses4673 "the lady doth protest too much methinks"

  • @jrh8393
    @jrh8393 6 місяців тому

    Love those words, "Everyone can get laid more". Excellent 😛🥰

  • @nichobee
    @nichobee Рік тому +18

    Could someone please explain to me how you could know you feel like the opposite sex, when you've never experienced being the opposite sex? We're not supposed to presuppose people's personal experiences with things like mental illness, but we can know what the experience of the opposite sex is?
    Are we not reducing gender down to a matter of identity you switch on or off, rather than a matter of broader biology? Objectively, people wouldn't have a darn clue if they know they feel like their 'unassigned' sex. Struggling to identify with your own sex doesn't mean you automatically qualify for being the other sex.

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 Рік тому +4

      Does it really matter that someone feels that it’s not right for them to be in their body and that they would prefer to be someone else?
      Why talk about semantics when we should be talking about someone’s life?

    • @aituk
      @aituk Рік тому +10

      @@juliewake4585 Then really we should be helping them to accept their body, as they actually are their body. Their mind cannot work in another body. These things aren't separable.
      Far better to help someone accept themselves for who they are than start hacking away with meds and surgery in the hope that eventually they'll ask you to stop.

    • @PP237PP
      @PP237PP Рік тому +2

      Why do you care?

    • @juliewake4585
      @juliewake4585 Рік тому +2

      @@aituk gracious. Why would you care how other people want to express themselves? Why can’t we just accept people for what they are?

    • @JustClickApprove92
      @JustClickApprove92 Рік тому +9

      Explain how you feel like the gender you are, then imagine how you would feel if you couldn’t express that gender, and there’s your answer

  • @nickalotdegit
    @nickalotdegit Рік тому +1

    💜

  • @aituk
    @aituk Рік тому +11

    Gender dysphoria is the only mental health condition where we affirm the patient's beliefs instead of trying to convince them of reality.
    Lets stop doing that first and we might make some real progress on actually helping people who suffer with this.

    • @aituk
      @aituk Рік тому +2

      I'm not saying this person has gender dysphoria just to be clear, I don't know their situation. A lot of men do just get off on this stuff and have jumped on the bandwagon so it's seen as more acceptable.

    • @JustClickApprove92
      @JustClickApprove92 Рік тому +1

      Probably because literal science shows that being transgender isn’t a choice and that transitioning makes the person with gender dysphoria much happy and fulfilled. The internet is widely available, please use it to do research

    • @ZeldaKid5000
      @ZeldaKid5000 Рік тому +1

      Why tf are you bringing up trans issues on a discussion about sexuality?
      Trans people are fully aware of reality. Gender dysphoria simply means they're made unhappy by the traits and characteristics of their birth sex. No amount of "have you tried growing a really bushy beard?" is going to change that for trans girls who are born that way.
      If you genuinely think that electro shock therapy and every other torture under the sun wasn't tried in the last century to stop trans people being trans you're kidding yourself. Transition is the ONLY thing that's been shown to cure/lessen the effects of gender dysphoria, something you'd know if you'd looked into this properly.

    • @satyasyasatyasya5746
      @satyasyasatyasya5746 Рік тому +4

      "Gender dysphoria" is barely 2 decades old as a diagnosis rooted in trying to medicalise human experience, it is not the root or cause of sex/gender bending/changing. Sex/gender bending/changing has existed in every human society in history.

    • @evolassunglasses4673
      @evolassunglasses4673 Рік тому

      The Left are dieing on the wrong hills

  • @adrianaspalinky1986
    @adrianaspalinky1986 Рік тому

    Kylie, the shouty Australian dwarf.
    So sorry, the "magic" don't work on me.

  • @albertbrammer9263
    @albertbrammer9263 Рік тому

    I do not mean this in any bigoted way (though I guess it will be seen so), but I have often wondered whether the more camp gay men have the XXY chromosome, or is it a learned process?

    • @101spacemonkey
      @101spacemonkey Рік тому +3

      That's an entirely different thing from a sexual identity though and you are conflating it with being intersex

    • @PP237PP
      @PP237PP Рік тому +1

      maybe the answer is both. Guess it's down to the individual.

    • @toxlaximus3297
      @toxlaximus3297 Рік тому

      It's chemistry, low testosterone makes you feminine, same thing happened to eunuchs.

    • @deanbuck7985
      @deanbuck7985 Рік тому

      Feminine and masculine traits don't really have much to do with sexuality. People are who they are and we have learned to describe certain behaviours as either. A masculine woman is not a lesbian by default etc.

    • @lee9650
      @lee9650 Рік тому +1

      Hmmm I'm naturally quite camp and was extremely camp as a child but I have trained myself to be more "masculine" although that often results in me being quite reserved and introverted. 🤷‍♂️ I think being camp is demonstrably a natural trait; however, that doesn't mean science has an explanation for it way of chromosomes, a bit like sexuality.

  • @lee9650
    @lee9650 Рік тому +2

    This person is clearly trying to confuse people.

  • @chrishobson6431
    @chrishobson6431 Рік тому

    I AM NOT CONFUSED......GET...OUT.......(slaps back of head)