It's incredible how you never stop learning new things in this game, I started spamming Thinker pos 5 yesterday and never knew both the damage (and now heal) of the robot swarm spell only applies when in contact with the robots. I always thought it was there only as visual flair and it was simply a damage aura with some sort of delay to make it more believable.
It's why you want to cast march at a right angle when you try and kill neutral camps. Way more contact with bots and let's you kill ancient/hard camp stacks way more efficiently.
Biggest thing not mentioned... Tinker used to be able to refresh items, but with greaves the debugf where you can't be healed is based off the cooldown of the item. Late game you can get a 12 sec greaves that heals everytime with his innate.
Saw it in high mmr matches and been spamming it since. It's broken and will 100% get nerfed soon. 12-3 and scratching at divine now. You can just do much with support Tinker. He might not be the biggest lane bully but his laning is very strong. Extremely unpredictable in lane and even ganks can be overturned, and once you fed against a tinker lane good luck on coming back. He also scales really well through all stages but you need to keep on farming which is probably the only downside I see.
Hah, how the turntables! I'm 35 with wife and a kid. But my friends are older... 38 to be exact. One of the has 3 kids and he hates playing heroes with active items. You are a cruel person. I love it
What used to make Tinker hard was the items, because his spells were always easy to use, but having a Shiva's, Hex, Grieves, Soul Ring and other active items, made the hero really hard. I like the direction they are taking for this though. They just need to adjust the numbers on the heal and the Defense Matrix Status Resistance and Tinker will stop being the cancer he used to be lol
I'm still kind of disappointed because Tinker used to be my top 1 favorite mid hero... now I should change to support if I want to keep playing him.... fuck dota 2
Same feeling, i used to spam him, over 500 games and 83% wr, now it sucks and this kind of videos just make him get even more nerfed until he contributes less than nothing, but yeah, valve keeps buffing thoses no-brain right clickers that just attack command to the floor and the hero do all the job, thoses are valve's favorites
I played this in an un ranked yesterday and i healed 35k with holylocket. Its crazy actually. Also is anti badplayers because you push dead lanes all the time and the enemy just cant leave the side lanes.
3k experience: picks tinker gets insta flammed, no one wants to play the game. Drops march on the first wave, core loses all cs says im trolling and go jungle lv 1... it happened in 4 out 10 games with this hero this patch. Next games go back to aba with a shield that is 10 times worse, and do 10 times less dmg/heal then tinker, everyone is happy...
35 with 1 kid, close though 😂 but yeah play him right and you can stomp the enemy team on your own even if your own team isn't doing to good, just through sheer map pressure 👌
@@chestervillafana4401 ha! RightI just forgot. I mean, if the cd reduction works on any item. Also I heard on the vid Refresh still not working with Tinker?
I'm an Abba spammer. No it does not. I am playing Abba 4 with a 60/70% winrate this patch. Tinker is one of my worst match-ups in lane, as I can't trade efficiently with him and my offlaner's usual advantage of being borderline unkillable while their carry stays relatively low hp, is effectively gone. I don't know about core Abba, but I sincerely doubt it. Once you get scepter, I think your team has good chances, everything else being equal, but Tiinker is definitely causing issues during laning stage.
No it doesn’t, Abbadon’s innate only works if the enemy is with 40% hp or bellow and the shield breaks easily with one march, you throw defensive matrix and laser on that and Abbadon’s is basically useless, he can’t hit anything, he won’t have a shield and Tinker’s team will keep healing like there’s no tomorrow
@@knkaitlog 9/15 the last month. Meh. Average healing is about 40k. Top game is at 62k healing in a 53min game. GG boots, holy locket, force staff, blink, ags. Been working well.
it does work high ground is easy. only problem is those who dont know how it works will grief and cry like manchildren because pf the "weird" support pick
They ruined the cool hero and turned him into a shit ambulance I have 1500 tinker games and I'm hurting and saddened by these changes, this hero is dead to me
Doods flaming 38 year olds, with kids -and then asks $100 per hour for coaching, where the only demograph of people that can afford it is the people he's flaming.
So that's why im seeing these useless tinkers in my lane. I won't deny that the heal is good, but I would rather have a reliable stun/save as my pos4 honestly
dude would you pls put a disclaimer that this tinker support is just for players above a certain mmr? pls! your are ruining my games with this shit! all the noobs are trying this, and they just grief games for no reason other than this video. pls dude. be carefull with what you post!
Awe, he tried to insult us by calling us 38 with kids... but I'm 39 and single. Now I'm sad. lol
as a 30 somethin with kids, i can tell you youve chosen the correct path haha
As a 30 something yr old with kids, You can live without kids, but you cant live without them. Such a dilema lol
don't worry brother you have dota play dota instead of having kids 😂
As 36 with kids man you are doing fine 😂
I am 17, have no kids but somehow still felt offended
As a 38 year old with kids who hasn't exercised in 3 years that was thinking of tinker, this feels way too targeted
Just turned 38 yesterday HAHAHA and without exercise lol
same
But I turn 39 in a month!
It's incredible how you never stop learning new things in this game, I started spamming Thinker pos 5 yesterday and never knew both the damage (and now heal) of the robot swarm spell only applies when in contact with the robots.
I always thought it was there only as visual flair and it was simply a damage aura with some sort of delay to make it more believable.
Its a nice detail i think
It's why you want to cast march at a right angle when you try and kill neutral camps. Way more contact with bots and let's you kill ancient/hard camp stacks way more efficiently.
@@Maccelerate ur right, i try to keep the same idea in teamfights, if i can cast march from a flank it feels much more impactful
More tips. Turn back before you cast march so the bot spawned right into enemy. It also make it harder for enemy to hide behind the creep wave
Biggest thing not mentioned... Tinker used to be able to refresh items, but with greaves the debugf where you can't be healed is based off the cooldown of the item. Late game you can get a 12 sec greaves that heals everytime with his innate.
Tinker is pumping 700 shields with no CD and here i am throwing 200 shield every 6 sec on my Aba.
Saw it in high mmr matches and been spamming it since. It's broken and will 100% get nerfed soon. 12-3 and scratching at divine now. You can just do much with support Tinker. He might not be the biggest lane bully but his laning is very strong. Extremely unpredictable in lane and even ganks can be overturned, and once you fed against a tinker lane good luck on coming back. He also scales really well through all stages but you need to keep on farming which is probably the only downside I see.
annoying hero but , thats what i like in dota new fun play styles kind of pudge to refresh dota so its not the same.
Hah, how the turntables!
I'm 35 with wife and a kid. But my friends are older... 38 to be exact. One of the has 3 kids and he hates playing heroes with active items.
You are a cruel person. I love it
I just did a ranked game on ursa before this video was uploaded with a tinker pos5 who did 25k healing in 27 minutes.
Tinker support is actually nuts
Speeed ive been playing Tinker Support all since 7.36. It's still good. Idk why he didn't go bottle. It's so good for healing again
bottle tinker is always good for faster recharge in our fountain
slots I guess
What used to make Tinker hard was the items, because his spells were always easy to use, but having a Shiva's, Hex, Grieves, Soul Ring and other active items, made the hero really hard. I like the direction they are taking for this though. They just need to adjust the numbers on the heal and the Defense Matrix Status Resistance and Tinker will stop being the cancer he used to be lol
holy shit i was so skeptical but after watching the whole video im actually very excited to try this
Tried it one time so far. Owned early and mid game but we lost late game since it’s 75 mins already and they got better late game heroes than us.
I was playing this before tinker got back March of the Machines and lost Locket. It’s was good back then and better now.
Im loving tinker, 7-0 with since the new change. Stacking triangle and clearing them in ten sec feels like old old tinker
thanks i picked this and we won and i still got reported
crybabies are stuck in pudge mid meta
False reports only hurt their own account. Valve will just flag those accounts and future reports are not taken as seriously by the system
A few years ago I was 38 with kids and haven't exercised in years, thx for calling me out 😂😂
tinker support is so good right now build pavise then locket
36…get it right….God
tried this. people underestimated you a lot but then they realize your allies are always in full health
I'm still kind of disappointed because Tinker used to be my top 1 favorite mid hero... now I should change to support if I want to keep playing him.... fuck dota 2
Same feeling, i used to spam him, over 500 games and 83% wr, now it sucks and this kind of videos just make him get even more nerfed until he contributes less than nothing, but yeah, valve keeps buffing thoses no-brain right clickers that just attack command to the floor and the hero do all the job, thoses are valve's favorites
Day 49 of asking speed to play position 1 Io
Shut up Meg
I see u bro
38 with kids, no exercise in 3 years... that cuts deep man
I played this in an un ranked yesterday and i healed 35k with holylocket. Its crazy actually. Also is anti badplayers because you push dead lanes all the time and the enemy just cant leave the side lanes.
This is broken on high rank where people gather and make a play and not go solo
3k experience: picks tinker gets insta flammed, no one wants to play the game. Drops march on the first wave, core loses all cs says im trolling and go jungle lv 1... it happened in 4 out 10 games with this hero this patch. Next games go back to aba with a shield that is 10 times worse, and do 10 times less dmg/heal then tinker, everyone is happy...
35 with 1 kid, close though 😂 but yeah play him right and you can stomp the enemy team on your own even if your own team isn't doing to good, just through sheer map pressure 👌
I swear, this tinker support is annoying than wd 2nd skill build before nerf.
jesus are dota 2 players this old im just 20 and i love this game
Yep, sadly that old man😂
Nope 47 retired army can out last most of you exercising while smoking a Marlboro red lol.
u gonna make an offlane vid about DP?
he already did
38 with kids and mo excersise i laughed too much
5:21 well, isnt that something -boush
Rearm keeps the same list of unaffected items? As Midas, Meteor hmer, refresh, etc...?
rearm doesnt refresh any item anymore
@@chestervillafana4401 ha! RightI just forgot. I mean, if the cd reduction works on any item.
Also I heard on the vid Refresh still not working with Tinker?
Dude...that hit personally 😂 38, 4 kids but i hit the gym often😅 need to scare off riffrafs from my 3 daughters
Lol when speed said u use laser i hunt u down in real life😂😂😂
Tinker heals 260hp
Speed:"Tinker is absolutely BROKEN.
More like 450 for everyone in it at like min 7
but this time he is right
I have been doing this since the last patch. It's cracked.
Play pos 4 lone druid with the new facet. 3 slots with the power of 5.5 slots. You do lack cc.
admiralbulldog did it months ago. real god gamer creating meta
It all started with Admiral Bulldog. GodGaymer.
As a 37 year old without kids im hopeful for the next year
Next patch, defence matrix casting range reduced by 100 😂
Ive been doing this since the major update lol. Add everyone laughed.
5k here, Tinker pos 5 is legit and I’m not a good Tinker player
I played tinker support before it was cool.....
Abba passive and his shield facet that has aoe damage counters this
I'm an Abba spammer. No it does not. I am playing Abba 4 with a 60/70% winrate this patch. Tinker is one of my worst match-ups in lane, as I can't trade efficiently with him and my offlaner's usual advantage of being borderline unkillable while their carry stays relatively low hp, is effectively gone. I don't know about core Abba, but I sincerely doubt it. Once you get scepter, I think your team has good chances, everything else being equal, but Tiinker is definitely causing issues during laning stage.
No it doesn’t, Abbadon’s innate only works if the enemy is with 40% hp or bellow and the shield breaks easily with one march, you throw defensive matrix and laser on that and Abbadon’s is basically useless, he can’t hit anything, he won’t have a shield and Tinker’s team will keep healing like there’s no tomorrow
11:48 he has pipe barrier and heals too. Are you sure you are too not 38 with 3 kids too😅😋🤪
Ye surrounded by 5 hero’s = monkey q + r 😂
I used laser
Wrong; I reached Immortal playing Tinker sup with unlimited solar crest and Boots of bearing
Tinker is the new IO
Tinker support is good 100% miss rate heal shield item cd reduc
I'm 39 with kids but pretty close
Bulldog must be crying tears of joy, pros are finally copying one of his builds
Alright, no laser.
Hey! I've been doing tinker 5 for the last few weeks. Stop making videos on it. I don't want valve to catch on and nerf.
but are you winning son?
@@knkaitlog 9/15 the last month. Meh. Average healing is about 40k. Top game is at 62k healing in a 53min game. GG boots, holy locket, force staff, blink, ags. Been working well.
this wont be good in pubs i think... good luck getting all ur teamates to sit in bots. I have a hard time getting my carry out of the jungle
it does work high ground is easy. only problem is those who dont know how it works will grief and cry like manchildren because pf the "weird" support pick
They ruined the cool hero and turned him into a shit ambulance
I have 1500 tinker games and I'm hurting and saddened by these changes, this hero is dead to me
ok manchild
where is my rocket?
does that mean 38y with kids are old and slow? based.
Man I love seeing these builds in pubs only for them to suck major cheeks…
Is it only me or all speed followers are 38+ 😂
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pieliedie rofl but I think they lost that. it was more like jungle tinker
Thinker support was better with the previous patches, unli atos
What’s your rank
guys abuse treant for free mmr, i played vs tinker support, he got punched hard
Doods flaming 38 year olds, with kids -and then asks $100 per hour for coaching, where the only demograph of people that can afford it is the people he's flaming.
Hey im not 38 im 34, The rest is quite right hahaha
nyx assasin can counter this tinker guys
but you waste it on a support
this tinker is like deathball push and nyx doesnt like going against 4 or 5 heroes
yesssssssss
Stop pausing the video bruh
So that's why im seeing these useless tinkers in my lane. I won't deny that the heal is good, but I would rather have a reliable stun/save as my pos4 honestly
Save with his E 700hp all damage barrier
I see. you only pick drow PA or sniper? skill issue
dude would you pls put a disclaimer that this tinker support is just for players above a certain mmr? pls! your are ruining my games with this shit! all the noobs are trying this, and they just grief games for no reason other than this video. pls dude. be carefull with what you post!
First??
Brother you talk way to much just get to the point geeze so annoying just get to the point.
Keep spamming this trash, more MMR for me.
Nice finally Tinker can support. I’ve been dreaming of this for years !