Understanding Pharisees, Sadducees, and Essenes

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  • An in-depth analysis of the three major sects of Judaism at the end of the Second Temple era, and how Judaism as we know it came about. Included is a discussion of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the surprising origins of the Talmudic Sages.
    For the class on the Essenes, the Hebrew Calendar, and the Book of Jubilees, see here: • Shavuot and the Book o...
    Further Reading:
    'The Mystery and Mysticism of the Essenes': www.mayimachronim.com/the-mys...
    On Herod and 'How Esau Became Rome': www.mayimachronim.com/how-esa...
    'Who Was the First Rabbi?': www.mayimachronim.com/who-was...
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    The Midrash about the progression of mitzvot from Noach to Sinai can be found in Midrash Mishlei 31:5, and is also cited by Rabbeinu Bechaye on Exodus 20:17.

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  • @brianroyster7510
    @brianroyster7510 4 місяці тому +16

    I have learned more about Judaism in the past hour than I had in the past 52 years. Fascinating.

    • @EfraimPalvanov
      @EfraimPalvanov  4 місяці тому +1

      So glad to hear, thank you!

    • @lisakimbrell1406
      @lisakimbrell1406 4 місяці тому

      Sorry but all you learned was lies from the synagogue of Satan.
      Go watch
      The God Culture

  • @alexanderealley9992
    @alexanderealley9992 2 роки тому +14

    Amazing presentation!! Thank you for sharing this with us! Your channel has incredible content, may Hashem continue to bless you and your family.

  • @iceliadias
    @iceliadias 2 роки тому +6

    Always so great to watch these shiurim. Thank you so much. I learn so much. 🙌

  • @davidwenger9821
    @davidwenger9821 4 місяці тому +1

    Awesome thank you for the education. Shalom

  • @TheModernHermeticist
    @TheModernHermeticist Рік тому +1

    Great lecture, thanks.

  • @sh.lslate3517
    @sh.lslate3517 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful!!!

  • @user-rg9yz5ou4y
    @user-rg9yz5ou4y Рік тому +3

    The Essenes had numerous holy books that the sages did not recognize as genuine scriptures. Few of these "Dead Sea scriptures are even mentionedin theTalmud.

  • @seanleech8214
    @seanleech8214 Рік тому

    Thank you, brilliant but complex.

  • @ILIAD9
    @ILIAD9 13 днів тому

    Absolutely top notch. Im glad Josephus chose life!!!

  • @alienJIZ1990
    @alienJIZ1990 27 днів тому +1

    If my synagogue taught like this I'd probably still be going as opposed to peacing out decades ago at 13 right after my Bar Mitzvah

  • @Jasn_Chvz
    @Jasn_Chvz 4 місяці тому

    Had no idea there was this much to it. Amen.

  • @naseersheikh1118
    @naseersheikh1118 Рік тому +1

    תודה רבה עוזר לי מאוד🙂

  • @shoshannafachima1306
    @shoshannafachima1306 3 місяці тому

    הרצאה מרתקת מאד.עכשיו ההקשרים מסודרים לי וברורים היטב
    ייש כוח עצום וברוך תהיה

  • @Solomon_animated
    @Solomon_animated 2 місяці тому

    Aaa, it's becoming clear in my mind as to what was going on behind the seens during the days of Solomon....

    • @Tobyyy24
      @Tobyyy24 17 днів тому

      ahh its becoming clear that you dont know the King Solomon lived nearly 1000 prior

  • @andreykorwhatnot8262
    @andreykorwhatnot8262 5 місяців тому +4

    Everyone knows why the first temple was destroyed, but why was the second temple destroyed?

    • @Yosaif-israel
      @Yosaif-israel 2 місяці тому

      I know why the second temple was destroyed but why was the first enlighten me and I’ll tell you why the second

    • @andreykorwhatnot8262
      @andreykorwhatnot8262 2 місяці тому

      @@Yosaif-israel gladly, because Israel abandoned Elohim and started worshipping idols in the temple. You can open Tanakh and read. Now your turn, do tell

    • @Yosaif-israel
      @Yosaif-israel 2 місяці тому +1

      @@andreykorwhatnot8262
      So all the prophecies could be fulfilled, and all nations blessed with the presence of descendants of keepers of the law, the remnant of Israel, amongst the nations to be gathered back in the holy land at the time when history has developed enough, so the arrogance of the nations is diminished and actually ready to accept the message from Sinai

    • @andreykorwhatnot8262
      @andreykorwhatnot8262 2 місяці тому

      @@Yosaif-israel temple was destroyed to bless all nations?

    • @Fortune40
      @Fortune40 2 місяці тому

      I believe the Greek “new” testament letters give some insight on this. A man named Saul of Tarsus (“apostle” Paul) was teaching gentiles that the Soreg Wall was abolished in Messiah Yeshua’s flesh in his letter to the Ephesians (chapter 2), and Trophimus the Ephesian decided to go past the Soreg Wall and defile the temple on one of his missionary trips with Saul of Tarsus. This event is described in the book of Acts, chapter 21, verse 28.
      As a former xtrian who is considering conversion to Judaism, the Greek “new” testament gives ample internal evidence that Paul was a false apostle who opposed Yeshua and His disciples - who, with John the “Baptist” were aligned with the Essenes.
      Among the Essenes, Menechim the Essene resigned from his post because the priestly class had become so corrupted.

  • @jibblecain
    @jibblecain 16 днів тому

    could Zechariah 13:8-9 be speaking on this?
    The 2/3rds being the Pharisees and Sadducees, and the 1/3rd left being the Essenes who were refined by fire.

  • @hamiltonsarain9608
    @hamiltonsarain9608 3 місяці тому

    After all my independent research, I arrived at the conclusion that, second temple era politics aside, the Sadducees were closer to the true Hebraic worldview of the ancient Israelites. That is why I keep stating that human beings should be working together in order to pass on a better way of life to future generations here on this one planet Earth that nourishes us all. However, I should be humble enough to admit that I could be wrong, and I am grateful for your videos because now I am able to recognize the 'mashiahh' if there is to be one, but I keep thinking that no religion is perfect. Just this morning, I was thinking that the few Zartoshtis on this planet should reclaim the concepts of a Saoshyant and a 'frashokereti' that Jews, Christians, and Muslims have distorted. From what I gather, even the Magi and later Persian Zoroastrians lacked understanding of the true meanings in the Gathas of Zarathushtra.

  • @user-rg9yz5ou4y
    @user-rg9yz5ou4y Рік тому

    While the Talmud does contain some mild criticism of some Perushim, it references to the Perushim are usually very positive. Repeatedly the sages describe themselves as the spiritual heirs of the perushim.

  • @sandcastlelyndylynneklynch766
    @sandcastlelyndylynneklynch766 Рік тому +2

    Blessings!
    I came here to understand who the pharesis (you spell pharisees) were! I am Christian, & it's so very interesting that Jewish religion teaches that the Torah, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers &Deuteronomy Always existed? That it was eternal? That B4 God created all the beautiful & our beautiful Universe That God looked in the Torah as a Blueprint?
    I'm just at ur beginning of ur video! (I also just subscribed to ur channel!) I love learning about other cultures & religions! If we don't learn about each other & ask questions, there will never be peace among all God's children, all the ppl on earth!
    Now as Christians we believe God always was & will be! That He created the universe as it says in Genesis! Now I agree That First Came The Word Of God, That the Word Always Was, And Will Be! But,
    I can't imagine God who is ALL Knowing, & Knows all of us b4 we were born, and all the feathers on every bird, & every hair on every humans head from past, present & future and every grain of sand! & God who created the Angels, Heavenly Hosts, Adam & Eve, etc wld need a blueprint on How to Create anything? Doesn't that sound odd to you? He IS God! Why wld he need to check any instructions on how to make anything?
    Now that is someone not of your faith looking in asking this question!!
    Do the Samaritans (The Keepers)
    also believe this about the Torah?
    (as they Only study the first 5 books only)
    I look forward to your reply &
    I look forward to learning so much from you & you'd channel!
    Blessings to you and your family,
    You truly are God's chosen ppl!
    Love from Dayton Ohio USA the invention capital of the world!

    • @EfraimPalvanov
      @EfraimPalvanov  Рік тому +1

      Yes, we do believe that the Torah is eternal and pre-existed Creation. Certainly, a perfect God does not require a "blueprint" - the notion that "God looked into the Torah and created the world" is more of a metaphor to teach that all of history unfolds according to God's plan, as encoded in His Torah. Thank you for the blessings, and may you be blessed as well!

    • @Yosaif-israel
      @Yosaif-israel 2 місяці тому

      The Torah says that God spoke existence into existence, and Torah means the eternal direction. Then obviously the internal direction comes from within the internal direction.

  • @user-rg9yz5ou4y
    @user-rg9yz5ou4y Рік тому +2

    The title "rabbi" is repeatedly used in the Gemara to refer to the spiritual leaders of the community as "rabbis" but there is no reference to this term in the Dead Sea Scrolls. There, the leaders of their community are described as "Zadokites."

    • @robycoles
      @robycoles 4 місяці тому

      Right on. The true Levite priests.

    • @Vinishsky
      @Vinishsky 3 місяці тому +1

      As a very popular Israeli saying teaches: "Don't be right, be smart"

  • @Dewizoh
    @Dewizoh Рік тому +2

    Excellent a lot of African American or Africans of the diaspora habits like saying grace and other cultural traits are Esscene

    • @jessereichbach588
      @jessereichbach588 Рік тому

      I think that's a big influence on the Christian tradition, which would make sense.

  • @Sorrel555
    @Sorrel555 11 місяців тому +3

    Damn, these Jews sure like to argue with each other lol

  • @eroscollazo5055
    @eroscollazo5055 Місяць тому

    I mean where does the TORA mention the Talmud?

    • @Tobyyy24
      @Tobyyy24 17 днів тому

      huh? the Talmud is a series of books interpreting the Torah many centuries later.

  • @albusai
    @albusai 5 днів тому

    The Malak Adonai

  • @4luv215
    @4luv215 23 дні тому

    “The thigh is an area that is sinful”.

  • @haemeth42
    @haemeth42 2 місяці тому

    Josephus according to Reuchlin Abelard-True Author on New Testament, Josesphus was Calpurnius Piso! Is this true Rabbi

    • @EfraimPalvanov
      @EfraimPalvanov  2 місяці тому +1

      I have heard of this hypothesis and I do not believe it is true.

    • @haemeth42
      @haemeth42 2 місяці тому

      @@EfraimPalvanov Thank you Rabbi

  • @user-rg9yz5ou4y
    @user-rg9yz5ou4y Рік тому

    Your imaginative claim that the references to the the "first sages" and the "hasidim" are really references to the Essenes is is iimlausible. Especially since the hasidim of the late Temple period as wandering from place to place preaching to the poor. Few if any of the Talmudic sages conducted this kind of traveling ministry.

    • @user-rg9yz5ou4y
      @user-rg9yz5ou4y Рік тому

      Corrected version: Your imaginative references to the "first sages" as Essenes is unlikely. The Talmud describes the hasidim of the late Temple period as wandering preachers who preached to the poor in villages where there was no Beit Midrash. Possibly even without a synagogue. While the the Talmudic and Mishnaic sages also of course also preached to the poor, but they did this from their own homes ,synagogues. and beitim midrashim. They wetre not itinerant preacher like the late temple hasidim.

  • @theholyeternalinfinite9368
    @theholyeternalinfinite9368 Рік тому

    interesting you find in the “New Testament “ this verse
    Acts 13:1
    וַיִּהְיוּ בַּקָּהָל אֲשֶׁר בְּאַנְטְיוֹכְיָא נְבִיאִים וּמְלַמְּדִים וְאֵלֶּה שְׁמוֹתָם בַּר־נַבָּא וְשִׁמְעוֹן הַנִּקְרָא גַם־נִיגַר וְלוּקְיוֹס הַקּוּרִינִי וּמְנַחֵם אֲשֶׁר הָיָה אָמוֹן עִם־הוֹרְדוֹס טֶטְרַרְךְ וְשָׁאוּל
    why do you think they put apparently the same Menachem there?

    • @EfraimPalvanov
      @EfraimPalvanov  Рік тому +1

      It is not the same Menachem. The verse clearly says Herod the Tetrach, not King Herod. Menachem the Essene would have lived many decades earlier.

    • @theholyeternalinfinite9368
      @theholyeternalinfinite9368 Рік тому

      @@EfraimPalvanov What year do you date the birth of Menachem?

    • @EfraimPalvanov
      @EfraimPalvanov  Рік тому +2

      @@theholyeternalinfinite9368 Menachem the Essene predicted that Herod would become king when the latter was still a child. Herod was born c. 72 BCE, and Menachem obviously would have been much older, so we can safely say that his year of birth would have been at least before 90 BCE.

  • @user-rg9yz5ou4y
    @user-rg9yz5ou4y Рік тому

    The Essenes generally avoided marriage. The Talmudic sages required it for all Jews. Most Essenes had no children. The Talmudic sageconsidered children a great blessing, and urged Jews to have as many of them as possibe,

  • @user-rg9yz5ou4y
    @user-rg9yz5ou4y Рік тому +1

    The Talmud repeatedly describes the sages of their own time as successors of the Perushim.
    The Essenes are never even mentioned the Essenes.

    • @Vinishsky
      @Vinishsky 3 місяці тому

      "Perushim" means interpreters. Essenes were more into the essence than into interpretation

  • @n.lightnin8298
    @n.lightnin8298 2 місяці тому

    Judas and Jesus of gamalia is interesting history some interesting stuff in Moses of choriene (Armenian) that is more in-depth then Josephus ​​⁠

    • @n.lightnin8298
      @n.lightnin8298 2 місяці тому

      Josephus calls them Syrian rebels but Moses tells they are the kings of an area in todays turkey that was a kingdom in that time “EDESSA” they were only rebels to the Roman they were both crucified if I remember correctly 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @n.lightnin8298
      @n.lightnin8298 2 місяці тому

      also would love to hear your thoughts on the similarities between historical Josephus and Saul/paul in Christianity they had a brother with the same exact name and their scribes had the same exact name they would have been on the same ship to see Cesar were both Jews in Roma at the same time but neither writes on the other I don’t think they are the same person but it’s compelling info Mathias and Josephus barnabus threw lots to decide who would be the next deciple after Judas

  • @Sam-fp8zm
    @Sam-fp8zm 10 місяців тому +1

    it was a tendon jacob could not eat not a nerve

  • @Solomon_animated
    @Solomon_animated 2 місяці тому

    The fact that this involved an oral tradition, it answers the questions I had on my mind...
    Times ahead will be very tumultuous. Everyone should be strong and remain dedicated to their beliefs in the higher power. Just because I love people and want as many beautiful people as possible to remain faithful to the most high.

  • @tropicanaman4666
    @tropicanaman4666 Рік тому

    It can’t be that polygamy is against the Torah especially because there are Talmud tractates full of cases where men have two wives

  • @user-rg9yz5ou4y
    @user-rg9yz5ou4y Рік тому

    The Essenes made a distinction Jewish people as a whole and the "community"--meaning the Essene community. By contrast the Talmudic sages did not recognize any exclusive "community" within the Jewish people.

  • @AbdulKhader-786
    @AbdulKhader-786 17 днів тому +1

    Rabbi what happened to your hair 😅

  • @lisakimbrell1406
    @lisakimbrell1406 4 місяці тому

    Go watch
    The God Culture

  • @elliotkey7961
    @elliotkey7961 Рік тому

    3@@@

  • @lauraschroeder8177
    @lauraschroeder8177 Місяць тому +1

    The Word of God: LOGOS: Jesus Christ is eternal. Jesus is the Creator, He is at the beginning. He is the high priest you are looking for: the Messiah: Tribe of Judah, lineage of King David. He is from the order of Melchizedek BEFORE the law came. Abraham tithed a 10th to Him: King of Salem. Jesus is the prince of peace, sitting at the right hand of the Father: He is our intermediary between God and man: our high priest. Read about Him in Isaiah 53 and the book of Hebrews.

    • @xryz
      @xryz 20 днів тому

      Sorry but the genealogy listed in the gospel is invented/fabricated to try to fulfill “prophecy”.
      “Modern scholarship tends to see the genealogies of Jesus as theological constructs rather than factual history: family pedigrees would not usually have been available for non-priestly families, and the contradictions between the two lists are seen as clear evidence that these were not based on genealogical records.” - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogy_of_Jesus
      Stop following the pauline/roman doctrine. The writings of a fraud to distance humanity from eternal life.
      As he opens modern judaism was a recent construct and was defeated several times throughout history. So it raises the questions: is their god not all powerful, or is he angered with them and fell out of his grace, or does he simply not exist? That the maccabees created modern judaism from the ashes of the Hellenistic Israelites and surrounding communities in order to maintain hierarchy and stability in their caste system and haughty attitude of superiority and supremacy.

  • @deafprophet
    @deafprophet Рік тому

    😆

  • @Vinishsky
    @Vinishsky 3 місяці тому

    So the "Judaism as we know it" is Judaism without the Land and without the Temple. Is it not the reason why God used secular Jews to restore the State of Israel?

    • @Tobyyy24
      @Tobyyy24 17 днів тому

      Judaism today has the land just not the Temple. God plans everything out. a Jew is a Jew, no matter how secular he is.

  • @eroscollazo5055
    @eroscollazo5055 Місяць тому

    Could it possibly be, that just MAYBE, JESUS is the Messiah? And HE is coming back ?

    • @EfraimPalvanov
      @EfraimPalvanov  Місяць тому

      Please see 'Judaism vs. Christianity' here: ua-cam.com/video/Jgf7hBGqzJM/v-deo.html

  • @ThePonderingPiper
    @ThePonderingPiper 11 місяців тому

    This sounds like being slaves to ancient superstition..🤔

  • @jdmbraceyourself695
    @jdmbraceyourself695 8 місяців тому

    They were definitely false religion