For a smoother ride, try to get the lower arm close to parallel with the ground at ride height. For a happier driveline, have the lower arm terminate in line with the front output flange on the transfer case. Keep in mind your caster changes throughout the suspension cycle. The length and amount of travel will determine how much it changes. You will have to decide what the main purpose of the rig is and set it up with whatever is better for that.
About the 2 wheel drive steering box. Its just like the recirculating ball type steering box with hydraulic assist ...right?? Or is there any difference? How is it different form the original steering box on your Rig ? Would like to know more. Thank you. And by the way...that is a Fantastic Rig man....totally awesome
The basic mechanics of the box are the same, the difference is the sector shaft position and pitman arm position. On the 4wd box, the pitman arms sticks out to the left side and the tie rod connects to the left spindle. When turning, the arm moves forward and back to turn the knuckle, which is what they call push-pull steering. On the 2wd box, the pitman arm points towards the rear. When turning it rotates left and right. When you swap to the 2wd box, you are able to run the tie rod to the passenger spindle (hence ‘crossover’). This allows better steering in all situations. You can replace the sector shaft in a 4wd box with a 2wd shaft rather than swapping the box out.
Hi guys. I watched how the thrust was boiled on the suspension and a short thrust was welded to the lower thrust, directly on the lower thrust. This was so that the bridge's tail could be set, or why such a structure.
The radius arms were a simple design and fit in the space I had without any argument. We actually used the ranger as an example to build the arms for the Stuburban. A 3 link the way I initially pictured would take more finesse and require modifications of other components. One blessing and curse the radius arms over 3 link is the fact they bind...which provides more on-road stability and eliminates the need for a sway bar. Beyond that, I can’t give any first hand pros/cons.
This was all custom; however, Fortify Offroad & Roberts Custom Trucks make a radius arm kit. A welded kit is around $1,200. Contact Jake at Roberts Custom Trucks if you’re interested. www.robertscustomtrucks.com/
just asking. is there a reason to weld it wit short circuit mig instead of spray arc. spray has better penetration, and being this, some big fat metal it should be better.
Alpha1 We use a variety of brackets from Barnes4wd, Ruff Stuff Specialties, Artec Industries, and Ballistic Fabrication. The ones on the Suburban are Barnes and Ballistic.
JayinMI Thanks, glad you’re enjoying it. As far as subscribers; everyone has to start somewhere. In the garage is a 78 Courier with a sbc. That will get some attention on the channel once the Ranger and Suburban are done.
jeep life We positioned the axle to set the pinion at the best possible angle for the ride height and keep caster in a good spot. From there we kept the lower links as flat as possible and set the vertical separation to maintain less than 45* off the lower link. From there, we hope for the best and make changes as necessary.
i wouldn't want to be under that rig with the jack stands set up like that. should turn them 90 degrees. unless you're looking to get crushed.....just sayin. Love what youre doing to this old truck, but it just aint worth dying for.
If you are referring to the grey stands--Have you ever turned a square 90 degrees? lol I'm assuming you mean 45 degrees to put one of the corners pointing forward.... We are able to do that with the big red stands, but not the grey ones.
@@RecklessWrenchGarage no, i meant 90 degrees and I'm referring to the way the truck is sitting on the stands, not the way the stands are sitting on the ground. The frame should be straddling the jack stand, running perpendicular to the top of the jack stand. You had all 4 parallel to the frame. But, do what ever you want, bro. 6000# falling on your chest is going to leave a little more than a mark.
Ah, I see. Valid point. We had the stands turned side ways to make room to clean the edges and put the plates in to box the frame. With the red stands on the front, the grey ones were there just in case. Seeing as how it would take quite a bit of force to push the frame off the stand sideways, we weren’t worried about it; however, you do have a valid point, the other way would be the ‘right way’.
Liked the editing on this one. Very concise without skipping anything. Music was a nice touch, too.
I saw the upload this morning, but had to go to work. I could not wait to get home to catch this weeks video. Great job guys!
Josh Lind Thank you! We are glad you enjoy them. 🤘🏻
Guys! You are the best!!!
LOVE RecklessWrenchGarage
You guys have an awesome channel, keep up the hard work!
Your voice audio was better this video. Nice touch with the safety squint welding Kris.
winstonUSMC We learned a new trick with the audio settings. Nice of you to notice.
As for the squint; you know I’m all about safety. 😁
Soo nice video to me, i am now preparing parallel 4link or radius arm for my m1008 front axle.
Haha sooo difficult to decide which
Any tips on deciding radius arm length? Or just make them long enough so they don't bind with the suspension travel you end up having and good to go?
For a smoother ride, try to get the lower arm close to parallel with the ground at ride height.
For a happier driveline, have the lower arm terminate in line with the front output flange on the transfer case.
Keep in mind your caster changes throughout the suspension cycle. The length and amount of travel will determine how much it changes. You will have to decide what the main purpose of the rig is and set it up with whatever is better for that.
About the 2 wheel drive steering box.
Its just like the recirculating ball type steering box with hydraulic assist ...right??
Or is there any difference?
How is it different form the original steering box on your Rig ?
Would like to know more. Thank you.
And by the way...that is a Fantastic Rig man....totally awesome
The basic mechanics of the box are the same, the difference is the sector shaft position and pitman arm position.
On the 4wd box, the pitman arms sticks out to the left side and the tie rod connects to the left spindle. When turning, the arm moves forward and back to turn the knuckle, which is what they call push-pull steering.
On the 2wd box, the pitman arm points towards the rear. When turning it rotates left and right. When you swap to the 2wd box, you are able to run the tie rod to the passenger spindle (hence ‘crossover’). This allows better steering in all situations.
You can replace the sector shaft in a 4wd box with a 2wd shaft rather than swapping the box out.
@@RecklessWrenchGarage
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Thanks
Keep up the good work !!
you guys need to make a kit lol. mostly so I can buy it for my burban i need to 4 link mine
Hi guys. I watched how the thrust was boiled on the suspension and a short thrust was welded to the lower thrust, directly on the lower thrust. This was so that the bridge's tail could be set, or why such a structure.
I’m not sure this translated properly.
We would love to answer your question if we can get some clarification.
How did you set the shank of the axle gearbox? как вы выставляли хвостовик редуктора моста ?
The pinion angle is set by adjusting the upper links on the radius arms.
рычаг верхнего радиуса перемещает угол передачи
Thinking in doing the same on my Cherokee chief, Question: Why radius arms and not a 3 Link? Pros and Cons?
The radius arms were a simple design and fit in the space I had without any argument. We actually used the ranger as an example to build the arms for the Stuburban.
A 3 link the way I initially pictured would take more finesse and require modifications of other components.
One blessing and curse the radius arms over 3 link is the fact they bind...which provides more on-road stability and eliminates the need for a sway bar. Beyond that, I can’t give any first hand pros/cons.
@@RecklessWrenchGarage Great!! Thank you buddy
Is there a company that makes a radius arm kit for the front or was Urs all custom ? Looking to do one on my suburban as well
This was all custom; however, Fortify Offroad & Roberts Custom Trucks make a radius arm kit. A welded kit is around $1,200.
Contact Jake at Roberts Custom Trucks if you’re interested.
www.robertscustomtrucks.com/
What did you end up doing with your cross member?
I built a 4 point crossmember out of 1.75” DOM.
just asking. is there a reason to weld it wit short circuit mig instead of spray arc. spray has better penetration, and being this, some big fat metal it should be better.
Since neither one of us know what spray arc is, we watched this video. He pretty much answers your question.
ua-cam.com/video/PI3pZxoPRvA/v-deo.html
What was your separation btwn uppers and lowers? Honestly looked a little shy.
It is. It’s only about 5.25”. It could certainly be a bit more, but it works.
@@RecklessWrenchGarage thats the important part.
Where do you guys get Those pre-fabricated brakets from?
Alpha1 We use a variety of brackets from Barnes4wd, Ruff Stuff Specialties, Artec Industries, and Ballistic Fabrication. The ones on the Suburban are Barnes and Ballistic.
the sound is perfict tank you
Would you guys be able to pre Fab a bracket set up for a 4 link on a 79 long box 4" lift
No, but Barnes4wd, Ruff Stuff, Artec, Ballistic, and various others have a slew of brackets to choose from.
I just found you guys, and all I can ask is How do you ONLY have 347 subscribers!?! Awesome Job. Also, what's in the garage?
JayinMI Thanks, glad you’re enjoying it. As far as subscribers; everyone has to start somewhere.
In the garage is a 78 Courier with a sbc. That will get some attention on the channel once the Ranger and Suburban are done.
wheres the welding hood man, that shit was shady man
Playing Possum there wasn’t enough clearance to fit in position with the hood on. Fear not, when it gets fully welded the hood will go down
So whats better for the front suspension. Radius arms or 4 link??
That really depends what you want to do. Keep in mind a front 4 link requires full hydraulic steering
I need a transmission crossmember for my 87 pickup!!
Did you measure our do any of the math on the radius arm set up?
jeep life We positioned the axle to set the pinion at the best possible angle for the ride height and keep caster in a good spot. From there we kept the lower links as flat as possible and set the vertical separation to maintain less than 45* off the lower link. From there, we hope for the best and make changes as necessary.
i want to buy this burban lol
Me too!
I've got an 87 you can buy
nice welding helmet. stare at them beads a bit longer there guy..
I do what I want.
Where u guys get your fab brackets
Most of the brackets on the Stuburban were purchased from Barnes 4WD or made in the garage.
didnt seem like enough separation at the axle end
6:21 LOLOL
i wouldn't want to be under that rig with the jack stands set up like that. should turn them 90 degrees. unless you're looking to get crushed.....just sayin. Love what youre doing to this old truck, but it just aint worth dying for.
If you are referring to the grey stands--Have you ever turned a square 90 degrees? lol
I'm assuming you mean 45 degrees to put one of the corners pointing forward....
We are able to do that with the big red stands, but not the grey ones.
@@RecklessWrenchGarage no, i meant 90 degrees and I'm referring to the way the truck is sitting on the stands, not the way the stands are sitting on the ground. The frame should be straddling the jack stand, running perpendicular to the top of the jack stand. You had all 4 parallel to the frame. But, do what ever you want, bro. 6000# falling on your chest is going to leave a little more than a mark.
Ah, I see. Valid point. We had the stands turned side ways to make room to clean the edges and put the plates in to box the frame. With the red stands on the front, the grey ones were there just in case. Seeing as how it would take quite a bit of force to push the frame off the stand sideways, we weren’t worried about it; however, you do have a valid point, the other way would be the ‘right way’.
6:20 you forgot to close your eyes bud
It’ll be fine.
Where did you find the short ass suburban
😂 Look back through our videos. There is a video showing where it came from.
Skydj Whisen ua-cam.com/video/y7WDot8dc_A/v-deo.html
Wow, get a welding helmet please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are cheap $50 - $60 !!!!!!!!!
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Dude he's literally wearing one what are you talking about