@@joaquinflores3547 Joe Lewis qoutes: "On K1- The JKD guys would get SLAUGHTERED if they competed even on a lower K1 level, such as the elimination K1 fights. What the K1 fighters do, especially their 'cut kicking' skills, what you may call inside/outside leg kicks would totally dominate what is done in 'classical JKD'." Bruce Lee, by tradition, was taught not to divullge the secrets that he'd learned, especially to Caucasians, yet he made a point in teaching a whole bunch of 'white' celebrities, like James Coburn, Steve McQueen, Sterling Silliphant, including Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, as well as Joe Lewis, of course. So much for Jun Fan Gung Fu and the "street-fighter" legend who never had a single pro fight, but managed to get his back badly messed up in the Wong Jack Man fight in San Francisco, late autumn of 1964. If we want to believe that Bruce Lee is indeed a kind of philosophical godfather of mixed martial arts competitions, then his fight with Wong Jack Man was a qualifying moment, a crucible that tested the validity of martial techniques much in the way that early UFC fights would in the late 90s, tear back the curtain to bluntly expose what was effective and what was mere hype. The only thing that makes one a fighter is fighting other professionals, and often. Jun-fan was too busy flexing & otherwise hiding his skinny legs.
@@TAROTAI I know what your talking about I have done Muay Thai before I just said he had influences from Bruce Lee, and obviously K1 has different rules plus the low kicks would make it difficult for this guys to adopt to the style
The fluidity too. I think mma fighters could benefit from some of the Kung fu training if they actually went over there and trained for a while, I think Mcgregor proved there’s more to the body then just throwing a kick or a punch Bruce’s dance back ground I find shows in his foot work too. Stylebenders evidence of that too haha and Silva
I think Joe, Bob Wall, James Coburn, Bolo, Jim Kelly, Steve McQueen, Kareem Jabbar, James Franciscus, Ed Parker, John Saxon, Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung & others Gleaned way more from Bruce than Chuck Norris gleaned from his mentor Bruce Lee.
Bruce adored the amazing footwork of boxer Willie Pep, and constantly studied him - same with Ali too. Bruce taught Lewis, Stone, Norris, Wall, etc, the importance of distance and mobility in a fight - as we see Joe utilising here.
@@db90990 Good Lawd...Joe Lewis, Bob Wall, Dan Inosanto and Jim Kelly trained with Gordon Doversola who knew Edmund Parker from Hawaii... Look up a Gordon Doversola and Jim Kelly on UA-cam
My instructor was one of Joe's black belts. I got to sit in on a black belt promotion test given by Joe. Very memorable. Joe was a very good boxer in general nevermind the kicks.
How well I remember watching this late one Friday night during December 1974 on ABC. I was then a 15-year-old purple belt in Tracy's kenpo, whose heroes were (in order), Lewis, Smith, Jackson and Flem Evans. Within a few months, this full-contact karate became kickboxing, with most fighters using boxing-style punches, rather than (for example) the ridgehands that Lewis employs so effectively here.
I started training with Jim Stewart and Tracy's in Indianapolis in 1970 :-) I'm not sure why people are giving Bruce Lee so much credit for what Lewis is doing here. He always had that great side kick, though he did add a back fist and some weapon first attacks after working with Lee. I like the movement he is showing. Never saw Lee move like that in any sparring video out there.
He didn't spar, but they trained relentlessly for a couple of year. They did spar type technique drills. Joe said he never sparred but learned from Bruce's philosophical mind and willingness to experiment.
A blast from the past! Great seeing Joe Lewis win World Karate Championship. Influence by Bruce Lee. His training paid off! Joe Lewis a great martial artist!
If you look closely, the ridgehand is actually landing via forearm, above the glove. No wonder the guy went down. Joe is very cagey throwing that. He "intended" to land on the ridgehand, but went 'deep' and his forearm made the contact. Judges were not sophisticated so didn't see it. That was Jim Harrison, I believe, serving as referee.
You look closely on the last one Brodar was moving in so of course it was partly a forearm strike. Another one previously Brodar was moving in. On another Brodar was moving away so Lewis was trying to compensate for that but as Lewis threw another Brodar stopped moving away.
Clearly, using what he learned from Bruce Lee. This should silence the BL disbelievers as Lewis said that Bruce Lee could beat him using only his low side kick as a weapon. He said this in Black Belt magazine years ago or one of those fight magazines.
I would have said to Bruce Lee, prove it. I remember the master of Brazilian Ju Jitsu, Royce Gracie, getting his head pounded in by Matt Hughes....Until you do it, you never know, and it's just talk.
@@PoofOfLogic If you had said that to Bruce Lee's face, he would say, ok. Let's go. Right now, not in the ring. And he would say that to anyone who challenged him. What would you say?
@@sanekabc To me, an untrained fighter, he probably would say that. Then again, he might not....He's like water....Water in a Toilet Bowl. He's full of Sh*t.
@@sanekabc We can all see Joe here in a full contact fight. The evidence is undeniable. Can you tell me where I can see Bruce in a full contact fight ?
Now, if Joe Lewis, such a tough fighter and heavyweight champion, says Bruce Lee was in a higher league, who is out there saying Bruce was just a movie star???
@@DJK-cq2uy Perhaps but he definitely became better under the guidance of Gordon Doversola which is why Jim Kelly trained with Mr. Doversola as well... If you do some research you will hear Jim Kelly say that Bruce Lee took private lessons with Gordon Doversola @ComicCon2010
@@DJK-cq2uy Learn correct English and spelling before you try to insult someone because that just shows your ignorance... I trained with Gordon Doversola so I'm sure that I have more information about the situation than you...
I was about to say Lewis fighting stand and bouncing technique looked identical to Bruces fighting Style against Chuck Noris. Wonder what lewis style looked like before Lee.
Bruce Lee helped joe not tele graph his moves. Also taught timing to joe. Their both the real deal. Bob wall once stated, on set of way of dragon, lee broke several of his ribs after kicking him. Bruce lee was like water, he was open minded, incorporated different martial arts styles into his wing chin. Kareem Abdul jabbar witnessed sparring between lee and Norris, Kareem said the world karate champ had bruises on his face. Also, he was point fighter, he never did full contact like bill Wallace or joe Lewis. I read book on lee. He was street fighter growing up in China. Jon T ben, actor, said, the former middleweight karate champion admitted no one can beat Bruce. Bob wall, Jim Kelly said Bruce was the real deal. I'm not a expert on martial arts, just sharing some stuff I read. Theirs big difference between point fighting and full contact.
The referee in this fight is Jim Harrison, of which Bruce Lee said, "I fear no man, but Jim Harrison and Mike Stone are the two last men that I would wish to meet in an alley fight. Jim Harrison's fighting style is not flamboyant or spectacular, it's just simple and deadly! He's one of the most dangerous men in the world."
@@Твой_Босс Why don't you do a google search for that quote, you'll find many articles. I second what Bruce said, I trained under Harrison for 6 years, the man was intimidating and trained many champions.
The commentators were giving Lewis a lot of leeway in the way they reported his strikes. He used a forearm to the temple to end the fight and they called it a ridge hand to the forehead. Nobody is going to use a ridge hand to the forehead, that's just stupid and you could clearly see that it didn't happen that way. Lewis used the forearm many more times before that and they kept calling it a ridge hand. Only twice did he actually use a ridge hand strike. Lewis was good they should not have been lying.
Listen up Whippersnappers, Heavyweight Champion Joe Lewis is arguably the Greatest (competitive) Karate Fighter of all time. Yes, he eventually trained with Bruce Lee and acknowledged he learned some things from him i.e. vertical punches etc. But, as far as this footwork and the ridge hands no. Skip round kick to the head maybe. But, Bruce got that from Chuck Norris. And, he absolutely perfected it. Let me set the record straight. Bruce Lee's famous side kick from the low side (Horse) stance he used in "Return of the Dragon" aka "Way of the Dragon" is identical to the patented Joe Lewis side kick that Joe was known for years before he ever met Bruce Lee. It is documented on film and in magazines countless times. Joe's Side kick, backfist combo was about all he ever did back in the blood and guts days of padless Karate. And, it was all he had to do. Joe was asked why he did the same side kick technique all the time to which he replied (paraphrasing) "Well, for one thing, nobody can stop it." In 1988 Joe Lewis told me at a seminar in Nashville, Tennessee he could kick Bruce Lee's ass every day of the week. And, I am pretty certain Bruce lee would have said the same thing about Joe or anyone else for that matter. My speculation would be that Joe would have had the advantage in a competitive setting. Bruce only competed once as a young man in China. And, naturally he won. I would however have to favor Bruce in a street fight. He was experienced. And, Joe only had a couple as far as I know. Bottom line is noone knows which legend would win and it matters not. Many Bruce Lee fans worship him as an idol. He never wanted that or even to be categorized as a superstar. He preferred to be respected for his talent as an actor and martial artist. His true legacy is his philosophy of openness and learning from all sources. And, that the teacher and student create and advance the art together.
Joe Lewis learned that sidekick from Gordon Doversola before he met Bruce Lee and Jim Kelly learned his backfist from Gordon Doversola as well... Look up Jim Kelly and Gordon Doversola on UA-cam... Jim is wearing a yellow shirt
I'm at 6:18 now and the fight is over. If you want to call that a fight. That is exactly what I'm talking about from back then. How they can even call that a Professional Fight is beyond me. The guy Joe was fighting, " IF YOU WANT TO CALL THAT FIGHTING " I call it crap. I wish I could have had a chance to fight him Norris and Bill Wallace because then I would have been the World Champion, but I was 15 years younger than them so it would never have happened ....TOO BAD... I can't watch the rest of the video because the sparring in my Isshinryu Karate Class was 3 times harder than that garbage. Thanks anyway for another video, Peerdy
But from what I can see in these videos of Joe, he really "Telegraphed" his kicks. I'm surprised his opponents failed to capitalize on that. A good fighter would jump ALL OVER that!
Exactly, both oof thhem were telegraphinng everything.Back then, let's face it, hardlly anyone was training in martial arts at all, and especially karate.
@@Rowlph8888 Absolutely! As crazy, and arrogant as it may sound---The Me of today, could've beat the Joe Lewis of yesterday. I truly believe that! I don't know----Maybe that isn't saying much.
Priceless footage. No one's used a "ridge hand" in full-contact then get the win. :) I wonder when they began using boxing gloves. Forget. ...in kickboxing. THis was more "full--contct Karate". And the fight was dedicated to Bruce Lee? Always amazed at the respect Bruce Lee got and still gets from fans. The guy was just a MA film star. Nothing like a Joe Lewis. ...Benny Urquidezz...
Damn you can see that boxin is completely another level though all the heavyweights of boxing would kill these guys.. I have respect for karate though ✌️✌️
Joe became a bit Wild when he got excited. Always keep your Cool---even when you have a guy "On the ropes," as it were. Pick your shots with controlled, economic bursts. Too many guys forget themselves and begin flailing all OVER the place.
Actually, before Joe met Lee, he was RIGID---like traditional Karate teaches. It wasn't until he worked with Bruce that he adopted a more FLUID approach---Footwork.
This Is Gold!! Awesome video,remind me on Bruce Lee 100% .Joe Is sweet heart,I'm very sorry about disagree with Bruce way of the dragon.Chuck Norice Is shadow for Joe Lewis.
Kojak & Richard Pryor?? Whaa?? :) Win by ridge-hand?? :) I guess this is more "fuill-contct Karate" than "kickboxing"....Probably the time just before "kickboxing" was born.
You are correct Master Ed Parker was against this type of competition for fear of quality of technique would suffer in the world of Martial Arts. But this led to kickboxing to today's MMA
It was a transition period, yes called full contact karate at the time, and in fact was transitioning from 'point karate' as it emerged in 73 with initially 'Pro Karate' point tournaments using the safety gear 'safe-T' brand name, shown here. The idea was to just make it continuous and use basically the same techniques. I could be wrong but it was only Joe here that had fought full contact before, had studied and trained boxing, and been in fights called 'kickboxing (that had very few rules and allowed knees etc) and was undefeated in those early kickboxing fights. After this, Smith, Wallace, and Duenas turned intensely to boxing training and techniques, mixed with their kicking, and once the safe_T gear was dropped, hooks not ridgehands were used. Boxing training for karate fighters in this new sport, became essential due to the continuous nature and use of boxing gloves, because otherwise mediocre boxers would win in 'full contact karate'. Little be little, the PKA, of which this world championship was the forerunner of, evolved in its rules, and ability of the fighters, esp an 'area' was replaced by a ring. Sweeps and throws became outlawed, a minimum kick requirement was founded, (again to stop just boxers dominating the new contact sport and also to encourage kicking). Eventually other organisations eg WKA became more international flavoured, allowing leg kicks though not full muay thai rules. Both types of bouts were televised, and WKA fights gradually became known as kickboxing, and full contact karate was a term last used in the 80s in PKA or ISKA events. More or less! The old PKA format gradually became known as 'above waist' kickboxing. Ultimately organisations fractured, international rules with leg kicks dominated , K1 emerged, the rest is history. (Myself, I always thought above waist fights more interesting, but the international spread and potency of leg kicks became more popular, mainly because by then few fighters with anywhere near the kicking capability of Bill Wallace were fighting or training in above waist rules. Also the money was in the international leg kicking bouts).
Heard a ludicris comment recently claiming fighters from the 60's wouldn't hold a candle to fighters of today...becaue he noticed fighters like Lewis dropped their hands. :)) That's to lure the other guy in DUH!! :) Lewis and the others were on another level as martial artists...elite/best of the best....talent you don't see today because most don't have the same hunger to be GOOD.
Dec. 1974 Los Angeles European Championships; Finals - seeing Frank Brodar/Yugoslavia beating Ivan Oliviari/Netherlands. So, Frank was a decent Karateka, but it's Joe Lewis of all fighters & Joe is considered the Muhammad Ali of Karate. The fight(s) were televised on the American Armed Forces Network. Oss!
Joe Lewis represented the USA, yet it was largely his Irish and Scottish blood that drove much of his famed fighting fervor and ferocity. What a champion, what a fighter, what a true, fearsome Celtic warrior! RIP Joe Lewis.
What I don't get issss...when Joe was covered up in defense and the other was punching why did he let up...the ref didn't stop him...he had a chance to inflict a little damage to slow him down.
It’s really u fortunate nobody knows about him. If you would just look him up you would understand he is ultimately one of the greatest fighter on the face of the planet: creator of JetKunDo, Father of Kickboxing, the one and only 10th degree black belt in the world, he is truly the king that surpasses mahamid Ali 🙏🥶
Dude... this guy looks like a beast and usually karate or point fighting is kinda a clown fighting but this match looks like legitimate stand up. AND he said what he said about Bruce Lee! That Bruce is the fastest person ever I'm front of him and that Bruce hits as hard as a heavy weight. He fought Bruce and Bruce landed on him. Gotta put some respect on Bruce's name, in case people people forgot
Fran Brodar ? Un completo desconocido , soy español y nunca oy ablar de este señor , y eso que por aquella epoca habia caratecas yugoslabos de gran balia , que quedaban campeones de Europa. Este señor Lewis nunca me combencio .
this event was dedicated to the late martial artist bruce lee.. so one year after he died the people remembered him and missed him. it was not a myth or a build legend by people. i mean the event was dedicated to lee one year after his death. the memorys were still relevant. he had a lot of influence on the martial arts in the usa and the rest of the world. i think if the people could bring back one people back to life they wold vote 4 bruce lee. no jesus no elvis. they would vote 4 bruce
Hans Meyer ..........lets see a man who was beaten to a pulp to give humanity a second chance at everlasting life for eternity .........even bruce lee would have been disappointed in peoples voting for him rather than someone who actually did something way more meaningful for mankind . Im probably bruce lees biggest fan but a bigger JESUS CHRIST fan !!!
@@izphilly1 disagree there they were both highly developed spiritual people who have helped people all round the world, Jesus was born a man not a god who like lee helped send a ripple of love around the world, both great men!
@@rowdyyates4273 thanks for your response but I never mentioned Jesus being God on earth. He was human who had super powers. You tell me who in history has ever awaken from the death or awaken others from the dead ?
Karate and Tae Kwon Do artist never properly learned to punch because they didn't have the knowledge. They also practiced kicking and footwork the majority of the time, everything was with the legs. The hands where used for balance, defense, distractions and tools to set up only kicks. It wasn't until the late 80s karate started altering towards setting punches up with kicks, and using a jab to set up the kicking arsenal, Benny Urquidez is the perfect example of new generation karate bringing in boxing into the game.
@Jesus -- One of the reasons Joe Lewis often used his hands like a boxer was because he trained with Joey Orbillo for several years. Lewis used to go down to the Seaside Gym in Long Beach, CA to work with Joey. Not knocking Lee but Lewis trained with a variety of people. In 1970, Lewis fought in a team match at the Long Beach Elks Club. He was part of the Tracy Kenpo Karate team with John Korab, Jay T. Will and Jerry Pennington. There might have been one other but after nearly 50 years I don't remember. I know because I was in the stands watching along with a good friend, retired boxer and pro wrestler, Karl Wilson Kohlbrecher. Karl thought point karate was kind of meaningless in comparison to boxing. The only fighter he liked was Joe Lewis. Joe was fighting and his opponent started a roundhouse (wheel) kick. Joe dropped to the mat and shoved a sidekick into his opponent's groin. I have never seen a fighter drop that fast. It was like a rope was attached to his waist and jerked him to the ground. His opponent stood there posed with his leg still in the air and Joe's foot shoved into his crotch. Amazingly, no point. The place went crazy but the judges insisted there was no point. After that Joe seemed to say screw it and wasn't fighting with the intensity he had shown up to that point. Unknown to me there were two other people in the stands: Joey Orbillo and some Chinese guy. Think his name was Bruce Lee. Now that would have been a picture for the scrap book. Me, Bruce Lee, Joey Orbillo and Karl. Too late now that is for sure. Joe, Bruce and Karl are dead and while Joey was a good journeyman fighter most of you have never heard of him. Now eat your hearts out. While training for the team matches they trained at a local karate studio. I got to spar with all of them (more like a punching bag) and a chance to chat with Joe on old Marine stuff. Another guy there and good friend was Jerry Smith another former Marine. Jerry was a pivotal player in full contact as a coach and trainer as well as co-founder of the Black Karate Federation (BKF). I not only can talk the talk, I can walk the walk. Ask me about Jerry and his cousin, Crazy Eddie someday
Seems like you can see the influence Bruce had on him, he said his matches improved alot after he trained with him.
Well yea he trained under him for sometime
@@joaquinflores3547 Joe Lewis qoutes:
"On K1- The JKD guys would get SLAUGHTERED if they competed even on a lower K1 level, such as the elimination K1 fights. What the K1 fighters do, especially their 'cut kicking' skills, what you may call inside/outside leg kicks would totally dominate what is done in 'classical JKD'."
Bruce Lee, by tradition, was taught not to divullge the secrets that he'd learned, especially to Caucasians, yet he made a point in teaching a whole bunch of 'white' celebrities, like James Coburn, Steve McQueen, Sterling Silliphant, including Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, as well as Joe Lewis, of course.
So much for Jun Fan Gung Fu and the "street-fighter" legend who never had a single pro fight, but managed to get his back badly messed up in the Wong Jack Man fight in San Francisco, late autumn of 1964.
If we want to believe that Bruce Lee is indeed a kind of philosophical godfather of mixed martial arts competitions, then his fight with Wong Jack Man was a qualifying moment, a crucible that tested the validity of martial techniques much in the way that early UFC fights would in the late 90s, tear back the curtain to bluntly expose what was effective and what was mere hype.
The only thing that makes one a fighter is fighting other professionals, and often. Jun-fan was too busy flexing & otherwise hiding his skinny legs.
@@TAROTAI I know what your talking about I have done Muay Thai before I just said he had influences from Bruce Lee, and obviously K1 has different rules plus the low kicks would make it difficult for this guys to adopt to the style
Man, so true!!!! I can see Joe Lewis thinking Bruce during this fight! Amazing!
I feel Bruce on video.You have right
Honor for Mr. Bruce Lee. Awesome! May future generations learn & appreciate this video. 2020 🙏🥋🇺🇲
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You can tell he trained with Bruce. Footwork and positioning shows it. JKD Bruce not Wing Chung
The fluidity too. I think mma fighters could benefit from some of the Kung fu training if they actually went over there and trained for a while, I think Mcgregor proved there’s more to the body then just throwing a kick or a punch Bruce’s dance back ground I find shows in his foot work too. Stylebenders evidence of that too haha and Silva
I think Joe, Bob Wall, James Coburn, Bolo, Jim Kelly, Steve McQueen, Kareem Jabbar, James Franciscus, Ed Parker, John Saxon, Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung & others Gleaned way more from Bruce than Chuck Norris gleaned from his mentor Bruce Lee.
Bruce adored the amazing footwork of boxer Willie Pep, and constantly studied him - same with Ali too. Bruce taught Lewis, Stone, Norris, Wall, etc, the importance of distance and mobility in a fight - as we see Joe utilising here.
@@db90990 Good Lawd...Joe Lewis, Bob Wall, Dan Inosanto and Jim Kelly trained with Gordon Doversola who knew Edmund Parker from Hawaii... Look up a Gordon Doversola and Jim Kelly on UA-cam
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Glad to hear the fight was deacated to the master Bruce Lee well dune Joe Lewis respect peace be with you all
My instructor was one of Joe's black belts. I got to sit in on a black belt promotion test given by Joe. Very memorable.
Joe was a very good boxer in general nevermind the kicks.
This fight is just laughable
Damn! You can tell he trained with Bruce Lee. Check out that foot work!
The kick is different
he use a lot of JKD hook kick!!!
Also trained under Sugar Ray Robinson and other greats!
The foot work is all Muhammad Ali.
Bruce lee begged to train with him
How well I remember watching this late one Friday night during December 1974 on ABC. I was then a 15-year-old purple belt in Tracy's kenpo, whose heroes were (in order), Lewis, Smith, Jackson and Flem Evans.
Within a few months, this full-contact karate became kickboxing, with most fighters using boxing-style punches, rather than (for example) the ridgehands that Lewis employs so effectively here.
Hay a tracy brothers kenpo guy .... Oss i'm a Doversola Okinawa Te guy ahhh the good ol days
Me too at Tracy’s in Philadelphia
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I started training with Jim Stewart and Tracy's in Indianapolis in 1970 :-) I'm not sure why people are giving Bruce Lee so much credit for what Lewis is doing here. He always had that great side kick, though he did add a back fist and some weapon first attacks after working with Lee. I like the movement he is showing. Never saw Lee move like that in any sparring video out there.
Joe was no joke! He was one bad man! Powerful in every way!
Imagine Bruce Lee fighting Joe and Bruce winning the the full contact fight 🤯 that would be an entertaining match
@@TheRealTomahawk😂😂😂😂
I remember watching fights like these in the 70s, I always felt that they were pretty boring, but Joe Lewis was a great fighter
Joe Lewis demonstrates the side kick or Bruce Lee he truly is Magnificent 🙌
He developed that sidekick while training with Gordon Doversola and Jim Kelly developed his back hand while training with Gordon Doversola as well
Lewis was in great shape. No matter how strong and tough you cant beat cancer.
Such a loss.
Tell that to Mr T.
You can with a serious Dry Fasting protocol
Say that to Cole Robinson, aka the 'Snake Diet' dude!
@@icanmanifest why dry fastingn over water fasting?
@@raymccollom3360 aggressive atophagy. Water fasting also flushes electrolytes too fast.
Joe sparred with Bruce Lee regularly and said that helped him win 11 consecutive matches.This being one of those 11 victories👍😃
Cmd Dowd he was a world champion kickboxer and trained at a Sugar Ray Robinson’s gym so....
He didn't spar, but they trained relentlessly for a couple of year. They did spar type technique drills. Joe said he never sparred but learned from Bruce's philosophical mind and willingness to experiment.
Joe said they did drills but never actually sparred.
A blast from the past! Great seeing Joe Lewis win World Karate Championship. Influence by Bruce Lee. His training paid off! Joe Lewis a great martial artist!
Joe moved exactly like Bruce Lee did
Actually, like Bruce AND Ali...because he was taught it BY BL.
@@raygsbrelcik5578 Un combat de merde. Il croit qu'il est dans un film de Bruce Lee. Ridicule
If you look closely, the ridgehand is actually landing via forearm, above the glove. No wonder the guy went down. Joe is very cagey throwing that. He "intended" to land on the ridgehand, but went 'deep' and his forearm made the contact. Judges were not sophisticated so didn't see it. That was Jim Harrison, I believe, serving as referee.
Same way Roy Jones "knocked down" Joe Calzaghe.
Lewis used to make contact in touch karate as well.
You look closely on the last one Brodar was moving in so of course it was partly a forearm strike. Another one previously Brodar was moving in. On another Brodar was moving away so Lewis was trying to compensate for that but as Lewis threw another Brodar stopped moving away.
I think both times he went down it was with the forearm. Was that legal?
I noticed that as well, the first ridge hand was his forearm.
Very good performance by Joe Lewis!
Clearly, using what he learned from Bruce Lee. This should silence the BL disbelievers as Lewis said that Bruce Lee could beat him using only his low side kick as a weapon. He said this in Black Belt magazine years ago or one of those fight magazines.
joe lewis is overrated
I would have said to Bruce Lee, prove it. I remember the master of Brazilian Ju Jitsu, Royce Gracie, getting his head pounded in by Matt Hughes....Until you do it, you never know, and it's just talk.
@@PoofOfLogic If you had said that to Bruce Lee's face, he would say, ok. Let's go. Right now, not in the ring. And he would say that to anyone who challenged him. What would you say?
@@sanekabc To me, an untrained fighter, he probably would say that. Then again, he might not....He's like water....Water in a Toilet Bowl. He's full of Sh*t.
@@sanekabc We can all see Joe here in a full contact fight. The evidence is undeniable. Can you tell me where I can see Bruce in a full contact fight ?
Telly Savales aka Kojak the lollipop man, never knew in all my years that he was a kick boxing announcer..
GOD bless you Joe,we miss you!
Now, if Joe Lewis, such a tough fighter and heavyweight champion, says Bruce Lee was in a higher league, who is out there saying Bruce was just a movie star???
Joe looked like he had this in the bag in round 1
That ridge hand didn't hit the forehead. Looked like it hit the side of the neck or maybe under the ear.
Yep, that's the way I saw it too, just under the ear. A good target if you want to drop somebody.
Joe was a bad mad can we take time to appreciate the way he worked the Philly shell in a martial arts fight ?
There was a lot of Bruce Lee influence in this fight. That side kick was a signature Bruce Lee move. Joe delivers it perfectly!
He developed that side kick while training with Gordon Doversola before he met Bruce Lee
@@Ta-Seti-Ra He always was good at it
@@DJK-cq2uy Perhaps but he definitely became better under the guidance of Gordon Doversola which is why Jim Kelly trained with Mr. Doversola as well... If you do some research you will hear Jim Kelly say that Bruce Lee took private lessons with Gordon Doversola @ComicCon2010
@@Ta-Seti-Ra can't just receive ir acknowledge the skill if another without one upping. Clown
@@DJK-cq2uy Learn correct English and spelling before you try to insult someone because that just shows your ignorance... I trained with Gordon Doversola so I'm sure that I have more information about the situation than you...
Great lead leg side kick!
Joe was an insane fighter…. Google his workout stats insanely strong what a fucking beast!!!!
You can tell by looking at the late great Joe Lewis that he was a formidable foe.
PKA had some great fighters.
Fun fact: Joe Lewis is who Ken from street fighter is based off of
Very impressive performance by Joe Luwis...
Respect for these legends they are fine role models and men that severely needed in today's times especially America
Did I see Telly Savalas (Kojak)? WoW.
Yes true👍. I grew up on his movies and was an amazing actor! I too was excited to see him .. God bless his soul🙏
I was about to say Lewis fighting stand and bouncing technique looked identical to Bruces fighting Style against Chuck Noris. Wonder what lewis style looked like before Lee.
They both 'copied' from each other.
Lots of people throw the ridge hand off the rear.since joe is landing with the forearm instead of the hand it still has power
Bruce Lee helped joe not tele graph his moves. Also taught timing to joe. Their both the real deal. Bob wall once stated, on set of way of dragon, lee broke several of his ribs after kicking him. Bruce lee was like water, he was open minded, incorporated different martial arts styles into his wing chin. Kareem Abdul jabbar witnessed sparring between lee and Norris, Kareem said the world karate champ had bruises on his face. Also, he was point fighter, he never did full contact like bill Wallace or joe Lewis. I read book on lee. He was street fighter growing up in China. Jon T ben, actor, said, the former middleweight karate champion admitted no one can beat Bruce. Bob wall, Jim Kelly said Bruce was the real deal. I'm not a expert on martial arts, just sharing some stuff I read. Theirs big difference between point fighting and full contact.
The referee in this fight is Jim Harrison, of which Bruce Lee said, "I fear no man, but Jim Harrison and Mike Stone are the two last men that I would wish to meet in an alley fight. Jim Harrison's fighting style is not flamboyant or spectacular, it's just simple and deadly! He's one of the most dangerous men in the world."
And when and where Bruce Lee say it??
@@Твой_Босс Why don't you do a google search for that quote, you'll find many articles. I second what Bruce said, I trained under Harrison for 6 years, the man was intimidating and trained many champions.
Those ridge hands to the face were actually forearms to the face.
Joe's kicks are wonderfuls
Chaotic fighting and random movements, unlike what we see in martial arts movies.
Chris Shenkle at the end miss the 70s wish I was still there. 😊😊😊
No push kicks wtf these rules held back so many great kickboxers
Franc is from Slovenia, from shotokan,
Bro this guy is the real deal
Joe moves like bruce. You can see the big influence.on him
Vic Moore did you see Joe Lewis skills after being trained by Bruce Lee.
Kevin Burton he wasn’t trained by Bruce lee, Bruce lee begged to train with him, by the time he trained with Bruce he was already champion
@@sjnxsjxyn Lewis admitted he became a better fighter and Bruce was a great teacher.
what qualifies Telly to because sports commentator?
First time I've ever seen Mr. Lewis.
Looks like Johnny from the Cobra Kai
The commentators were giving Lewis a lot of leeway in the way they reported his strikes. He used a forearm to the temple to end the fight and they called it a ridge hand to the forehead. Nobody is going to use a ridge hand to the forehead, that's just stupid and you could clearly see that it didn't happen that way. Lewis used the forearm many more times before that and they kept calling it a ridge hand. Only twice did he actually use a ridge hand strike. Lewis was good they should not have been lying.
First thing to notice is how „low key“ the entry was compared to today’s circus.
And was that Telly Savales with the reporter at the beginning????
Yeah baby
Are they allowed to kick to the back in this or leg sweeps ?
Listen up Whippersnappers, Heavyweight Champion Joe Lewis is arguably the Greatest (competitive) Karate Fighter of all time. Yes, he eventually trained with Bruce Lee and acknowledged he learned some things from him i.e. vertical punches etc. But, as far as this footwork and the ridge hands no. Skip round kick to the head maybe. But, Bruce got that from Chuck Norris. And, he absolutely perfected it. Let me set the record straight. Bruce Lee's famous side kick from the low side (Horse) stance he used in "Return of the Dragon" aka "Way of the Dragon" is identical to the patented Joe Lewis side kick that Joe was known for years before he ever met Bruce Lee. It is documented on film and in magazines countless times. Joe's Side kick, backfist combo was about all he ever did back in the blood and guts days of padless Karate. And, it was all he had to do. Joe was asked why he did the same side kick technique all the time to which he replied (paraphrasing) "Well, for one thing, nobody can stop it." In 1988 Joe Lewis told me at a seminar in Nashville, Tennessee he could kick Bruce Lee's ass every day of the week. And, I am pretty certain Bruce lee would have said the same thing about Joe or anyone else for that matter. My speculation would be that Joe would have had the advantage in a competitive setting. Bruce only competed once as a young man in China. And, naturally he won. I would however have to favor Bruce in a street fight. He was experienced. And, Joe only had a couple as far as I know. Bottom line is noone knows which legend would win and it matters not. Many Bruce Lee fans worship him as an idol. He never wanted that or even to be categorized as a superstar. He preferred to be respected for his talent as an actor and martial artist. His true legacy is his philosophy of openness and learning from all sources. And, that the teacher and student create and advance the art together.
Street fight: Bruce 109% you can’t see what Bruce eye strike it’s over
Joe Lewis learned that sidekick from Gordon Doversola before he met Bruce Lee and Jim Kelly learned his backfist from Gordon Doversola as well... Look up Jim Kelly and Gordon Doversola on UA-cam... Jim is wearing a yellow shirt
I'm at 6:18 now and the fight is over. If you want to call that a fight. That is exactly what I'm talking about from back then. How they can even call that a Professional Fight is beyond me. The guy Joe was fighting, " IF YOU WANT TO CALL THAT FIGHTING " I call it crap. I wish I could have had a chance to fight him Norris and Bill Wallace because then I would have been the World Champion, but I was 15 years younger than them so it would never have happened ....TOO BAD... I can't watch the rest of the video because the sparring in my Isshinryu Karate
Class was 3 times harder than that garbage. Thanks anyway for another video, Peerdy
Entièrement d'accord avec vous.
Une grosse merde ce combat.
Aucune garde, juste un Charlot qui se croît dans un film de Bruce Lee. Ridicule !
Wow a Blackbelt in Gum Fu!
Bill Wallace would use you as a human piñata, even now at 77.
Ridge hand all day
But from what I can see in these videos of Joe, he really
"Telegraphed" his kicks. I'm surprised his opponents
failed to capitalize on that. A good fighter would jump
ALL OVER that!
Joe always had better hands than feet.
Exactly, both oof thhem were telegraphinng everything.Back then, let's face it, hardlly anyone was training in martial arts at all, and especially karate.
@@Rowlph8888 Absolutely!
As crazy, and arrogant as it may sound---The Me of today, could've
beat the Joe Lewis of yesterday. I truly believe that!
I don't know----Maybe that isn't saying much.
@@raygsbrelcik5578 😆😆😆
Keyboard warrior moments.
wow the stand just look like bruce lee, almost dancing
One of the commentators was Telly Savalas, right?
Priceless footage. No one's used a "ridge hand" in full-contact then get the win. :) I wonder when they began using boxing gloves. Forget. ...in kickboxing. THis was more "full--contct Karate". And the fight was dedicated to Bruce Lee?
Always amazed at the respect Bruce Lee got and still gets from fans. The guy was just a MA film star. Nothing like a Joe Lewis. ...Benny Urquidezz...
“Ridge hand” ridge hand ridge hand!
I can't fathom anyone earning a black belt in only seven months of training. Was he taking classes EVERY day? What was the intensity of his training?
Telly Savalas aka Kojak.
who love you baby -_-
I was hoping Telly would do a tap dance at the end with that cheesy tune.
Sweet straight side kicks..
Can't say I like the music at the end.
Damn you can see that boxin is completely another level though all the heavyweights of boxing would kill these guys.. I have respect for karate though ✌️✌️
Joe became a bit Wild when he got excited. Always keep your
Cool---even when you have a guy "On the ropes," as it were.
Pick your shots with controlled, economic bursts. Too many
guys forget themselves and begin flailing all OVER the place.
Actually, before Joe met Lee, he was RIGID---like traditional
Karate teaches. It wasn't until he worked with Bruce that he
adopted a more FLUID approach---Footwork.
@WarSawUprizing Talkative, aren't we..?
@WarSawUprizing Pardon me but, are you trying to educate me
on a subject I already knew?
@WarSawUprizing My bad! Ya' never know on UA-cam.
Peace peace, wow I like Joe’s foot work
His Bruce training shows up here. He said Bruce was a great teacher. Joe was a badass before he met Bruce, but those two fed off each others ideas.
Peace, cool thanks for the info.
thank you
Back in the days when men were men, and people used Scotch-Brite to clean their camera lenses...
LOL! EXACTLY!!
This Is Gold!! Awesome video,remind me on Bruce Lee 100% .Joe Is sweet heart,I'm very sorry about disagree with Bruce way of the dragon.Chuck Norice Is shadow for Joe Lewis.
Kojak & Richard Pryor?? Whaa?? :) Win by ridge-hand?? :) I guess this is more "fuill-contct Karate" than "kickboxing"....Probably the time just before "kickboxing" was born.
You are correct Master Ed Parker was against this type of competition for fear of quality of technique would suffer in the world of Martial Arts. But this led to kickboxing to today's MMA
Who said it was kickboxing?
It was a transition period, yes called full contact karate at the time, and in fact was transitioning from 'point karate' as it emerged in 73 with initially 'Pro Karate' point tournaments using the safety gear 'safe-T' brand name, shown here. The idea was to just make it continuous and use basically the same techniques. I could be wrong but it was only Joe here that had fought full contact before, had studied and trained boxing, and been in fights called 'kickboxing (that had very few rules and allowed knees etc) and was undefeated in those early kickboxing fights.
After this, Smith, Wallace, and Duenas turned intensely to boxing training and techniques, mixed with their kicking, and once the safe_T gear was dropped, hooks not ridgehands were used. Boxing training for karate fighters in this new sport, became essential due to the continuous nature and use of boxing gloves, because otherwise mediocre boxers would win in 'full contact karate'.
Little be little, the PKA, of which this world championship was the forerunner of, evolved in its rules, and ability of the fighters, esp an 'area' was replaced by a ring. Sweeps and throws became outlawed, a minimum kick requirement was founded, (again to stop just boxers dominating the new contact sport and also to encourage kicking).
Eventually other organisations eg WKA became more international flavoured, allowing leg kicks though not full muay thai rules.
Both types of bouts were televised, and WKA fights gradually became known as kickboxing, and full contact karate was a term last used in the 80s in PKA or ISKA events. More or less!
The old PKA format gradually became known as 'above waist' kickboxing.
Ultimately organisations fractured, international rules with leg kicks dominated , K1 emerged, the rest is history.
(Myself, I always thought above waist fights more interesting, but the international spread and potency of leg kicks became more popular, mainly because by then few fighters with anywhere near the kicking capability of Bill Wallace were fighting or training in above waist rules. Also the money was in the international leg kicking bouts).
Heard a ludicris comment recently claiming fighters from the 60's wouldn't hold a candle to fighters of today...becaue he noticed fighters like Lewis dropped their hands. :)) That's to lure the other guy in DUH!! :) Lewis and the others were on another level as martial artists...elite/best of the best....talent you don't see today because most don't have the same hunger to be GOOD.
Ken SFII standing forward all day n standing fierce for the KO
who is Franc Brodar ?
does ANYBODY know ?
really , i can not find anything on that guy.
Dec. 1974 Los Angeles European Championships; Finals - seeing Frank Brodar/Yugoslavia beating Ivan Oliviari/Netherlands. So, Frank was a decent Karateka, but it's Joe Lewis of all fighters & Joe is considered the Muhammad Ali of Karate. The fight(s) were televised on the American Armed Forces Network. Oss!
Joe Lewis represented the USA, yet it was largely his Irish and Scottish blood that drove much of his famed fighting fervor and ferocity. What a champion, what a fighter, what a true, fearsome Celtic warrior! RIP Joe Lewis.
yep - just like Bruce Lee - who was American but his Chinese blood made him fuck all!!
fuck off
Was That his ancestry
@@robjeffrey270Much of it!
I didn't know telly is into this kind of thing
What I don't get issss...when Joe was covered up in defense and the other was punching why did he let up...the ref didn't stop him...he had a chance to inflict a little damage to slow him down.
Joe Lewis got his Karate belt in 1 year also!
Announcer keeps calling it a ridge hand when it’s a long hook.
No, it's a ridge hand. i learned that in Shotokan. You hit below the thumb around the wrist area. As you see it can be very effective.
@@teleguy5699 A Ridge hand for sure......Love my left hooks ...but this was a ridge hand!
Joe from street fighter 1?
Bruce used to toy with Joe Lewis. Bruce was special back then
Real Life Ken From Street fighter
It’s really u fortunate nobody knows about him. If you would just look him up you would understand he is ultimately one of the greatest fighter on the face of the planet: creator of JetKunDo, Father of Kickboxing, the one and only 10th degree black belt in the world, he is truly the king that surpasses mahamid Ali 🙏🥶
Back when karate was useful 👍
Are they not allowed to throw leg kicks?
Lewis was smart. He hit with his arm right before the hand so there was no padding to soften the blow.
Love oldschool full contact. But to be honest most of the time the level was extremely low.
Great use of feints by Joe.
What is a “ridgehand”
Looks like Bruce Lee fighting style at times
Q Perr yeah the double left hook is what lee taught joe Lewis ,Bruce drilled it into him to use it
He was a champion long before he worked out with Bruce Lee.
Wise Guy he was but joe improved as a fighter through lee
How so?
Wise Guy because he became unbeatable when he trained with Bruce joe said it himself
Joe Lewis ? this guy never be defeated
Dude... this guy looks like a beast and usually karate or point fighting is kinda a clown fighting but this match looks like legitimate stand up. AND he said what he said about Bruce Lee! That Bruce is the fastest person ever I'm front of him and that Bruce hits as hard as a heavy weight. He fought Bruce and Bruce landed on him.
Gotta put some respect on Bruce's name, in case people people forgot
I had no idea Telly salvas was a sports caster
Joe Lewis was pretty damn good
Nice bonus to have commentary from Kojak.
Nice carnival music at the end, but would be more fitting for clowns coming out and karate men.
Fran Brodar ? Un completo desconocido , soy español y nunca oy ablar de este señor , y eso que por aquella epoca habia caratecas yugoslabos de gran balia , que quedaban campeones de Europa. Este señor Lewis nunca me combencio .
this event was dedicated to the late martial artist bruce lee.. so one year after he died the people remembered him and missed him. it was not a myth or a build legend by people. i mean the event was dedicated to lee one year after his death. the memorys were still relevant. he had a lot of influence on the martial arts in the usa and the rest of the world. i think if the people could bring back one people back to life they wold vote 4 bruce lee. no jesus no elvis. they would vote 4 bruce
Hans Meyer ..........lets see a man who was beaten to a pulp to give humanity a second chance at everlasting life for eternity .........even bruce lee would have been disappointed in peoples voting for him rather than someone who actually did something way more meaningful for mankind . Im probably bruce lees biggest fan but a bigger JESUS CHRIST fan !!!
israel nieves God bless you, the same here
+israel nieves thank you God Bless You Amen 🙏🏽
@@izphilly1 disagree there they were both highly developed spiritual people who have helped people all round the world, Jesus was born a man not a god who like lee helped send a ripple of love around the world, both great men!
@@rowdyyates4273 thanks for your response but I never mentioned Jesus being God on earth. He was human who had super powers. You tell me who in history has ever awaken from the death or awaken others from the dead ?
Hard to believe dude in the red pants is a black belt. Brother can't even punch as well as amateur boxers
In the past, black belts never learned how to punch because they only punched the air. I know. I am one of those black belts.
And the announcer said he was a European champion...lol.
Karate and Tae Kwon Do artist never properly learned to punch because they didn't have the knowledge. They also practiced kicking and footwork the majority of the time, everything was with the legs. The hands where used for balance, defense, distractions and tools to set up only kicks. It wasn't until the late 80s karate started altering towards setting punches up with kicks, and using a jab to set up the kicking arsenal, Benny Urquidez is the perfect example of new generation karate bringing in boxing into the game.
@Jesus -- One of the reasons Joe Lewis often used his hands like a boxer was because he trained with Joey Orbillo for several years. Lewis used to go down to the Seaside Gym in Long Beach, CA to work with Joey. Not knocking Lee but Lewis trained with a variety of people.
In 1970, Lewis fought in a team match at the Long Beach Elks Club. He was part of the Tracy Kenpo Karate team with John Korab, Jay T. Will and Jerry Pennington. There might have been one other but after nearly 50 years I don't remember. I know because I was in the stands watching along with a good friend, retired boxer and pro wrestler, Karl Wilson Kohlbrecher. Karl thought point karate was kind of meaningless in comparison to boxing. The only fighter he liked was Joe Lewis. Joe was fighting and his opponent started a roundhouse (wheel) kick. Joe dropped to the mat and shoved a sidekick into his opponent's groin. I have never seen a fighter drop that fast. It was like a rope was attached to his waist and jerked him to the ground. His opponent stood there posed with his leg still in the air and Joe's foot shoved into his crotch. Amazingly, no point. The place went crazy but the judges insisted there was no point. After that Joe seemed to say screw it and wasn't fighting with the intensity he had shown up to that point.
Unknown to me there were two other people in the stands: Joey Orbillo and some Chinese guy. Think his name was Bruce Lee. Now that would have been a picture for the scrap book. Me, Bruce Lee, Joey Orbillo and Karl. Too late now that is for sure. Joe, Bruce and Karl are dead and while Joey was a good journeyman fighter most of you have never heard of him.
Now eat your hearts out. While training for the team matches they trained at a local karate studio. I got to spar with all of them (more like a punching bag) and a chance to chat with Joe on old Marine stuff. Another guy there and good friend was Jerry Smith another former Marine. Jerry was a pivotal player in full contact as a coach and trainer as well as co-founder of the Black Karate Federation (BKF). I not only can talk the talk, I can walk the walk. Ask me about Jerry and his cousin, Crazy Eddie someday
Damn, I'm jealous.
Holy crap, no muscle old fucks that would die against any fighter in ufc
Joe told me that he an Bruce trained together 8 times and then had a falling out.