I’m definitely due for a mic upgrade. I’ve been looking at the VMS for quite some time. Anyone know of any cons of the VMS? I don’t know if I should buy this or save up a little more and get something like a Sony C100 or something in that price range that doesn’t model mics.
Upgrading your mic locker with the ML-1 VMS during our holiday sale means that right out of the box you're getting a fantastic mic with 8 spot-on vintage tube mic emulations and 2 analog preamp models for less than you'd spend on any of those mics individually! You can take a peek at our website if you want more details about what you'll get - ac.slatedigital.com/ml1-holiday-sale-2021
ngl i have a ml1 since 1 year and i’m still sceptical because it’s maybe too good to be true edit: one con that i can’t confirm is that when using analog gear the sound could sound differently
@@prodbymajuu Yup, only con is that I'm still not sure how they did something so magical haha, so if your superstitious you may end up believing you own a cursed object or something lol. Other than that I see no downside
Like I said to the dude below: Yup, only con is that I'm still not sure how they did something so magical haha, so if your superstitious you may end up believing you own a cursed object or something lol. Other than that I see no downside. The emulations (when actually measured, not just "listened to" by a good ear) are so close to the real mics they emulate, that's there's just about no way a normal ear would be able to tell the difference. Even semi well-trained ears can't hear the difference (as in, some of my friends who've only been producing for a few years now) ESPECIALLY in the context of a full mix. It would be hard to find one willing to put their rep on the line for it, but I'd LOVE to see a video where someone tracks vocals through one of these AND some of the real mics it emulates, at the same time (so there's no take variation) and then see if a few top level producers and engineers can actually pick out which one they think is the real one, and which one they think sounds better, than compare the results. I bet they guess wrong just as much as they guess right, and furthermore I'm willing to bet that when they pick their personal favorites, they end up choosing the slate emulations just as much as they choose the real mic's. You could probably even do this with the vocals in solo, and STILL get the same results. The difference is so negligible, that only a computer (or maybe lifetime super producer) would be able to pick them out of a mix like that. Even in solo its VERY subtly different from the real thing. All this aside though, there's one thing that makes the mic worth it more than the real versions. The consistency. Everyone with vintage gear will tell you it varies massively, these mics are legendary usually because a few legendary studios have used them on a bunch of legendary artists during the era of record labels, where there were a handful of major labels and they all used the same studios. So really, the mic isn't famous, more like THAT mic in THAT studio is famous. Buy your own, and its luck of the draw. Most people I've talked to about it ask their sales rep to bring in multiples to test (especially from rental agencies) because they sound and age differently. Not only did Slate go through and pick the best possible mics to emulate, but they had the owner of Blackbird Studios in Nashville personally select 5 of their best mics to emulate. So if you REALLY think about it, the only way to actually get "that" sound that you're thinking of, is to get THAT mic. Not that same model, I mean literally THAT microphone that your favorite producer has in their studio. And the only way we can do that, is to buy the software that has been perfectly modeled around it! Kinda like with the NLS from waves. You can't buy spike, mike, or nevo's mix counsel (all of whom countless pop stars and musicians say is THAT sound; again, all analog gear varies, you get an SSL desk it will NOT sound like CLA's desk at Mix LA) but you CAN get software that perfectly emulates 32 channels of all 3 of these mix counsels. You could go spend a few hundred thousand dollars to get the same counsel, and it won't give you the sound you're looking for. Because we only think we're looking for the sound of a brand, when usually we're looking for the sound of a specific product someone already owns. So very simply, that only easy way to get "that" sound, is to get the emulations of the real thing, it's much more accurate than buying your own and hoping it's close. This is MUCH closer. I know that's a long one haha, but this is may life, my passion, my work. I've done a lot of research on it, so to prevent people from needing to do the same, here is the sum of the effort. Get the damn ML-1 haha to quote my mom, "Snoop wouldn't steer you wrong" (snoop has a custom ML-1) hahaha
Hi there, great question! The Virtual Microphone System can now be activated via iLok Cloud! Learn more here - slatedigital.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/360002058694-iLok-Cloud
@@SlateDigitalTV This is wrong information and I totally fell for it. I don't have the All Access Pass but bought the perpetual VMS license. When I wanted to register my license, I had to buy an iLok 3rd gen (I have a 1st gen but your VMS license does not work on a 1st gen iLok). Super annoying, especially since VSX didn't need a physical iLok at all.
You can certainly get great quality recordings with the ML-1 and ML-2 using that interface but the emulations may not be as spot-on due to the frequency response of the built in preamps. The mics will still provide a great variety of tone options for you to choose from, but if you want more of an exact match, you could pair the ML-1 with the VMS-ONE preamp which you would hook up to the PreSonus via a TRS male to male cable to bypass the preamp section of the Presonus. Hope this helps!
Of course I can hear the difference. You're telling me which is which. Even if there's no difference in tone, you are biasing me to thinking there's one and telling what to listen for. Where's the double blind test? Where's the null test?
@@J77199 Of course I won't expect Steven Slate or any manufacturer to do that. It doesn't sell products, especially when said product is more marketing wank than anything else. You're better off getting a modern microphone that sounds good than chasing the old "vintage expensive mic" route. There are so many great manufacturers nowadays and the quality of even the cheapest mics is miles away from what they used to be in the past.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino I like the idea of the diversity the ML-1 Is capable of. This gets me several tonal characters for far under my estimated 13000$ Microphone locker budget. I'm interested in what's hip, and the idea of microphone modeling is neat. But seriously 1000$ for a mic doesn't seem like very much at all for a "Cutting edge" or "top of the line" product. I think the Lewitt 640 multi pattern is about 1000$ I'm interested in minimizing upgrading at the cost of time, so I might have a bias in my willingness to put up a lot up front though.
@@jessjohnreed7964 I don't even know if the microphone is capable of such versatility as Slate Digital is telling me what I should be hearing before I do so. This is preconditioning that will affect your opinion of the thing. But I wouldn't expect much from Slate Digital or any other company of that ilk. This is not a comparison video. This is a marketing video disguised as a comparison video.
All true. Even if you use it on your own mic 800 makes a magic sparkle through a mix!
How did I miss this half off sale!? 😭
FG800m is definitely my fav
Okay but when is the song dropping lol this is amazing
When is the next sale? I was eyeballing mics under $600 and this would be perfect.
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Right now if you're still in the market
I’m definitely due for a mic upgrade. I’ve been looking at the VMS for quite some time. Anyone know of any cons of the VMS? I don’t know if I should buy this or save up a little more and get something like a Sony C100 or something in that price range that doesn’t model mics.
Upgrading your mic locker with the ML-1 VMS during our holiday sale means that right out of the box you're getting a fantastic mic with 8 spot-on vintage tube mic emulations and 2 analog preamp models for less than you'd spend on any of those mics individually! You can take a peek at our website if you want more details about what you'll get - ac.slatedigital.com/ml1-holiday-sale-2021
ngl i have a ml1 since 1 year and i’m still sceptical because it’s maybe too good to be true
edit: one con that i can’t confirm is that when using analog gear the sound could sound differently
@@prodbymajuu Yup, only con is that I'm still not sure how they did something so magical haha, so if your superstitious you may end up believing you own a cursed object or something lol. Other than that I see no downside
Like I said to the dude below: Yup, only con is that I'm still not sure how they did something so magical haha, so if your superstitious you may end up believing you own a cursed object or something lol. Other than that I see no downside. The emulations (when actually measured, not just "listened to" by a good ear) are so close to the real mics they emulate, that's there's just about no way a normal ear would be able to tell the difference. Even semi well-trained ears can't hear the difference (as in, some of my friends who've only been producing for a few years now) ESPECIALLY in the context of a full mix. It would be hard to find one willing to put their rep on the line for it, but I'd LOVE to see a video where someone tracks vocals through one of these AND some of the real mics it emulates, at the same time (so there's no take variation) and then see if a few top level producers and engineers can actually pick out which one they think is the real one, and which one they think sounds better, than compare the results. I bet they guess wrong just as much as they guess right, and furthermore I'm willing to bet that when they pick their personal favorites, they end up choosing the slate emulations just as much as they choose the real mic's. You could probably even do this with the vocals in solo, and STILL get the same results. The difference is so negligible, that only a computer (or maybe lifetime super producer) would be able to pick them out of a mix like that. Even in solo its VERY subtly different from the real thing.
All this aside though, there's one thing that makes the mic worth it more than the real versions. The consistency. Everyone with vintage gear will tell you it varies massively, these mics are legendary usually because a few legendary studios have used them on a bunch of legendary artists during the era of record labels, where there were a handful of major labels and they all used the same studios. So really, the mic isn't famous, more like THAT mic in THAT studio is famous. Buy your own, and its luck of the draw. Most people I've talked to about it ask their sales rep to bring in multiples to test (especially from rental agencies) because they sound and age differently. Not only did Slate go through and pick the best possible mics to emulate, but they had the owner of Blackbird Studios in Nashville personally select 5 of their best mics to emulate. So if you REALLY think about it, the only way to actually get "that" sound that you're thinking of, is to get THAT mic. Not that same model, I mean literally THAT microphone that your favorite producer has in their studio. And the only way we can do that, is to buy the software that has been perfectly modeled around it! Kinda like with the NLS from waves. You can't buy spike, mike, or nevo's mix counsel (all of whom countless pop stars and musicians say is THAT sound; again, all analog gear varies, you get an SSL desk it will NOT sound like CLA's desk at Mix LA) but you CAN get software that perfectly emulates 32 channels of all 3 of these mix counsels. You could go spend a few hundred thousand dollars to get the same counsel, and it won't give you the sound you're looking for. Because we only think we're looking for the sound of a brand, when usually we're looking for the sound of a specific product someone already owns. So very simply, that only easy way to get "that" sound, is to get the emulations of the real thing, it's much more accurate than buying your own and hoping it's close. This is MUCH closer.
I know that's a long one haha, but this is may life, my passion, my work. I've done a lot of research on it, so to prevent people from needing to do the same, here is the sum of the effort. Get the damn ML-1 haha to quote my mom, "Snoop wouldn't steer you wrong" (snoop has a custom ML-1) hahaha
Did u get the pre amp also? How can I configure the latency to headphone while I record with the pre amp to the Apollo to the mic?
Just ditch the pre amp and go right threw the Apollo bro it’s much cleaner pre amps in the Apollo and you don’t really want a pre amp into a pre amp
Who’s the singer? I love her voice
Besides the sibilance it’s amazing
There is a little siblance on the fg800 model but thats why they made 2 versions.
Why you guys don't test this mic with a singer with a powerful voice or a belting tape singer?
I didn’t you need a pre amp for this I almost blow my monitors 😂😂😂😂
Do you need an ilok key?
Hi there, great question! The Virtual Microphone System can now be activated via iLok Cloud! Learn more here - slatedigital.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/sections/360002058694-iLok-Cloud
@@SlateDigitalTV This is wrong information and I totally fell for it. I don't have the All Access Pass but bought the perpetual VMS license. When I wanted to register my license, I had to buy an iLok 3rd gen (I have a 1st gen but your VMS license does not work on a 1st gen iLok). Super annoying, especially since VSX didn't need a physical iLok at all.
Hi, the plugins are included in the price or I need to pay every years?
The microphone with an identity crisis lol. I ain't hating though, I absolutely love the concept of it. 👍
How you get proper lncoming level without external preamp?
where are this guitar arpeggios from??? anyone knows the original song?
Can I use ml-1 with my PreSonus AudioBox iTwo interface?
You can certainly get great quality recordings with the ML-1 and ML-2 using that interface but the emulations may not be as spot-on due to the frequency response of the built in preamps. The mics will still provide a great variety of tone options for you to choose from, but if you want more of an exact match, you could pair the ML-1 with the VMS-ONE preamp which you would hook up to the PreSonus via a TRS male to male cable to bypass the preamp section of the Presonus. Hope this helps!
@@SlateDigitalTV how about the ml-1 with an SSL 2 interface preamps?
Yes indeed
Yo what does the FG stand for?
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Of course I can hear the difference. You're telling me which is which. Even if there's no difference in tone, you are biasing me to thinking there's one and telling what to listen for. Where's the double blind test? Where's the null test?
I mean it's not gonna null lol. It's an emulation that gets u into a range. But you're right about the blind test.
@@J77199 Of course I won't expect Steven Slate or any manufacturer to do that. It doesn't sell products, especially when said product is more marketing wank than anything else. You're better off getting a modern microphone that sounds good than chasing the old "vintage expensive mic" route. There are so many great manufacturers nowadays and the quality of even the cheapest mics is miles away from what they used to be in the past.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino I like the idea of the diversity the ML-1 Is capable of.
This gets me several tonal characters for far under my estimated 13000$ Microphone locker budget.
I'm interested in what's hip, and the idea of microphone modeling is neat. But seriously 1000$ for a mic doesn't seem like very much at all for a "Cutting edge" or "top of the line" product.
I think the Lewitt 640 multi pattern is about 1000$
I'm interested in minimizing upgrading at the cost of time, so I might have a bias in my willingness to put up a lot up front though.
@@jessjohnreed7964 I don't even know if the microphone is capable of such versatility as Slate Digital is telling me what I should be hearing before I do so. This is preconditioning that will affect your opinion of the thing. But I wouldn't expect much from Slate Digital or any other company of that ilk. This is not a comparison video. This is a marketing video disguised as a comparison video.
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