Why I stopped pursuing enlightenment | Ricardo Palomares | TEDxChathamKent
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For a really long time, Ricardo was obsessed with the idea of enlightenment, without really understanding what it was. He traveled the world, tried many forms of meditation, and read many books hoping that at some point he would achieve this elusive state.
At some point along the way, Ricardo suddenly asked himself something. Why was he in such a hurry to get there, to achieve enlightenment? He realized that it didn’t matter how many spiritual practices he did if he couldn’t enjoy the process and that his search for enlightenment was some kind of escape from his everyday life. So Ricardo decided to stop pursuing it and to focus only on finding contentment in the smaller things; to focus on finding contentment in everyday life. Ricardo is a keynote speaker, leadership coach, and author. He immigrated to the United States from Mexico City after graduating from photography school with the singular focus of building a career that would allow him to explore the world. Later he earned a Film degree at the University of Texas at Austin, then went on to create documentary work in Mexico and China, and to make the famous Camino de Santiago pilgrimage in Spain. His most recent project, Pedal South, entailed leading a team on a two-year cycling expedition from Alaska to Argentina. The purpose was to create a documentary that would give a perspective of the people and landscape of the Americas today.
His goal is to spread compassion, knowledge, and wisdom gained through overcoming inconceivable obstacles so people can unlock their potential, achieve what seems impossible, and find contentment. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx
I think the whole point of what he is trying to say is, enlightenment is not some crazy state you reach and maintain to be free of life, but it's an understanding that there is nothing you can do to escape. Surrender to the pain of everyday living gives you a lot of freedom since you're aren't trying to create some state that gets you away from it. Conflict subsides at that point. I heard a spiritual teacher once say that in Zen, a saying is "There is nothing you can do". Pretty simple, and pretty true.
My own personal point of view is that having awareness is really important. Without awareness, you are your mind. And our minds are pretty crazy. They are needy, aggressive, judgemental and fearful. And most importantly, there is no way to change them.
The question then becomes how do you get away from that? Knowing that you cannot get away from it is the first step, because if you try to escape it, you are thinking, and by thinking, guess what, you are your mind again. By doing that you are simply going around in circles. So surrender is step 1. Then step 2 is awareness. Because when you are aware, you are not your mind and you are able to observe what's going on. Funnily, here you have a much deeper intelligence that allows you intuition over the content in your head. With this, you are able to relax more and more into yourself as you see through the madness in your mind, become more free and happier as you go.
Cheers
Took the words out of my mouth
Thank you so much
Well done!
Michael Telford thank you.
isn't there an old brazillian ju'jitsu saying 'before enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. after enlightenment, chop wood, carry water'.
The act of "pursuing enlightenment" is the act of running away from enlightenment.
Do not chase Stillness.
Andrew Reed. perfectly put.
Some people call it enlightenment, some people call it salvation, If i had to explain it with human words the answer he doesn’t understand yet is that he is alive, but to understand that you have to leave your ego, but ego is what makes you human... That’s it the answer you looking is here :))))) is dangerous for your humanity if you go to close doe...
Day Man u r not enlightened
@Day Man Indeed you are...
Day Man i totally believe u bro
This guy has done everything I have hahha I love it. Vipassana, Ayahuasca, shamans, mountains in Mexico, travel to peru, trying to achieve enlightenment etc.. and now I am living in the moment day to day in every scene of my life
How did you achieve your current state
@@manhar89 inform me too
@universal truth yes
@@soniatiwari9986 how is it a scam when it’s simply being aware?
I did exactly thing as he did,I went on the idea of enlightenment, until one day I got really happy suddenly, I did some 2-3 days of random walking then I had an accident that almost killed me. Likely I survived, and I start to live and accept the everyday life with more freedom.
My story is strange, but that how all happened.
I came into this with an open mind. He is definitely right. For some people, coming to this realization is very hard because they believe it's something to be achieved. In reality it is a way of life, these plant medicines are only tools to get you there. Enlightenment is not a means to an end but a way of life 🙏🏾❤
Yes but the way he speaks about it is like he pursued it but never found it but found lessons along the way he still asleep
Im 15 and im very intellectual but I tried also to achieve enlightenment at some point in time. Ive known about all of the spiritual stuff since the 6th grade and now I'll be in the 10th soon. On this journey I realized many things and ive learned from everywhere. Ive taught myself things my school would never teach me and I already knew things before my school could teach me. Ive realized that there is no absolute answer to anything, reality and imagination are connected, and nothing is surprising. What I ment by there is no absolute answer to anything is, the sky is blue to us but it maybe red to a bird or green to a butterfly so what color is the sky? Or is God dead or alive? What I ment by reality and imagination is connected is, I had an experience where what i imagined I could feel actually happening without doing anything. I could imagine flying and it would feel as such. What i ment by nothing is surprising, its self explanatory. Its just that, nothing is surprising. I could see energy and the outline of peoples aura at the same time 24/7 without trying at all. Ive imagined things people would never be able to. And one of the most important things I learnt was that enlightenment is something you dont need to achieve and everything is right infront of you. You can see the connection between everything if youd look closely Or you could see that somethings has the same components and everything goes hand and hand with something else. All you need is an equilibrium between everything you do to not cause stress. To put it simply enlightenment to me is living your best life with no lies or anything holding you back from your purpose of life. There's nothing to realize.
What's your purpose of life?
- Human, bird and butterfly will process color with a similar encoding but the eyes will sport a different set of color cones so some colors will be 'gray'
- "Is God dead or alive?" answer is: No.
...anything else? ;-D
“There is nothing to realize”....correct, although you do understand that you, in fact, DID “realize” this!....all the best!
I applaud u. Cheers
Very well said ❤️ ,I m 20 but u feel way older than me lol
You cannot force it, it happens on it's own. Just like an apple that is about to ripen and fall from the tree. The only thing you can do is abide in what you are right now and let things unravel naturally. If you are already seeking then the apple is in the process of ripening. When the story is right you will Awaken into what you are.
WOW, you said this so eloquently! It is the “process” of “life”….. Mine was not a choice, I truly had no idea about any of this and then 💥my life started tearing apart right in front of my eyes… 10 years now and I just lean into it and accept and let go…. 🦋
“When someone is seeking,” said Siddartha, “It happens quite easily that he only sees the thing that he is seeking; that he is unable to find anything, unable to absorb anything, because he is only thinking of the thing he is seeking, because he has a goal, because he is obsessed with his goal. Seeking means: to have a goal; but finding means: to be free, to be receptive, to have no goal. You, O worthy one, are perhaps indeed a seeker, for in striving towards your goal, you do not see many things that are under your nose.”
― Hermann Hesse, Siddhartha
Thats exactly the thing he didnt understand
Total Enlightenment is actually being Totally Free of fear, anxiety, sorrow, suffering, confusion, alienation, addictions, envy, greed, jealousy, pride, anger, hatred, violence, bias, and prejudice in daily life, once and for all, now forever.
They who are Totally Enlightened actually treat everyone, without exception, with the same intensity and quality of care and affection that they would give their dearest closest friend, lover, or child, without any sense of division, separation or distance in daily life, once and for all, now forever.
How do you know? Are you Totally Enlightened? Do you know anyone who is Totally Enlightened? Please don't take these questions as attacks or insults, I just want to know.
@@willowFFMPEG Do Jacob's Ladder and See for yourself directly. 90 minutes. What are you waiting for? Every second you delay, you are contributing to the conflict, violence, and suffering in the world today. See the danger. See my group on Facebook: "Total Enlightenment NOW!".
Hi Claire, those with greater wisdom and maturity, "enlightened" as some would say, are immensely humble and grateful. They will not pound their chest and proudly announce to the world that they are in a higher state of consciousness.
But you might sense them because of their calm demeanor and benevolent behaviour, always joyful and unconditionally helping others. It is their passion to help bring joy, peace, and harmony to this chaotic reality.
They are neither judgemental nor feel superior to others as they understand the Truth. The Truth is love, and God (aka Higher Self, Creative Source, Prime Creator) is pure unconditional love. In love, ego attributes of selfishness, greed, anger, hatred, judgement, retaliation, and superiority will not and can not exist.
All the best!
@@jonewing2541 As long as there is an I, a me, a self, there is no Humility...there is no Love...none whatsoever. There is only what the past conditioning of the mind imagines it to be, which is a limitation and imitation of Truth.
@@jonewing2541 The so-called Higher or True Self is merely another fragment of the I, the me, the self, in disguise, pretending to be different, pretending to be something greater. It's just another trick of thought.
With great humility I thank you all: the kind gentleman who dedicated his time and energy to explain his experiences and those you in their search for answers who took time out to comment and share their beliefs and experiences through their comments. You all inspire the belief in me that relying on a truly qualified Spiritual Guide is the key to deep spiritual awareness and realisation. That without instructions passed directly down from Buddha Shakyamuni, from a Guide who has realised every single stage of the path, who guides through his countless emanations and blessings, there is no Enlightenment. Om Ah Hum. Xxx
Hey I totally agree with you, but these arrogant over-intellectualized Westerners (I'm a Westerner myself) don't understand metaphysics and rather remain separatist/materialist. As such they refuse to take a guide, "no I can achieve it on my own", then their very self will toy with them to never achieve it. If they can't imitate another person, obey consistent orders from another person, serve another person genuinely, view others in a genuine good view then they will not understand and won't achieve it. "No me myself will do it", and just as this dote on the stage they will give up due to a loss with the self. "What's the self?" Ridiculous.
I tasted a bit of it felt to pursue enlightenment and from comparing my personal experiences to the experiences of others who have as well, I've realized that theres nothing more important in life to pursue than to simple live it in the way that you most comfortable want to. To those that want more or see's value in less, it's all completely subjective. Nothing more important than simply living and enjoying your life for better and worse.
Must be nice to be able to afford to go to a cabin in the middle of nowhere and just be. Completely unrelatable.
Whatever you "think" enlightenment is, it isnt that. Its nothing to do with words hense why most people dont talk about it. How do you describe the indescribable. Realise that everything and everyone is the centre of the universe/infinity and be nice then things start making "sense". But there are no final truths within infinity but experiences
Search is a barrier but we have to search hard enough to know it, that's one of the most sensible speech I've ever heard.Thank You.
The point would be ok, if he would realise, that stopping pursuing enligtnment is the right way - but in the sense, that the ego stops pursuing this. If we switch to counsciousness of the ego, of everything and slowly realise, we are not what we think. Hence, noone can pursue anything. It's great realisation to stop all struggle. But he didn't actually stop pursuing. He settled to different spiritual pursuation, to maintaining peace, harmony and being himself. But the "himself" is the biggest illusion :)
Yea I feel like he didn't give a real reason why he stopped pursuiing enlightenment, other than the fact that he tried everything and that it never gave him the ultimate answer to everything (which may or may not have been the illusion all along?). So he decided it was better to just deal with life more compassionately and just return to "real" life. It does make sense, but I feel like there was a golden nugget of wisdom that wasn't said somehow.
unfortunately its not so easy to stop being yourself in this modern society without completely isolating yourself.
It takes less than a second to awaken to your true nature when you are in your heart ready. Peace
He realised that there is nothing to realise for him. He dropped the thought of there being enlightenment to pursue as far as i understood. and i can agree with that. IMO chasing enlightenment is only further escape from reality. If you ask most seekers why they search it's because they want to stop suffering. Why do they want to stop suffering? Because it sucks?
But our individual uniqueness is what is loved by others, and what we love about others. This is why Christianity, which centers on love, declares that there is sanctity in our unique individual nature, of which is to be honored with dignity.
And this is why the greatest destination of Christianity is Heaven of which all commune in love.
In Christianity, love is something very real. It's not an attachment which must be trancended. And therefore, each of those we love, we love uniquely, are very real, and not to be transcended into a generic universal consciousness. Why abandon love, or self? What about those you love, and whom love you? Buddhism seems to center on liberation, rather than love; as it seems to be it's ultimate goal and destination. But, Christianity has no greater goal or destination beyond that of love. The home of love is the greatest goal and final destination.
Great story, just what I needed to hear :) Thank you Ricardo!
Seems like a genuine young man and has spent some years playing spiritual tourist. It's always interesting how different ones have this idea of 'enlightenment' and those ideas are all different. However imagined, that's not it, whatever is pursued, that's not it either. Enlightenment, liberation, realisation, whatever it might be called is nothing more than idea and all ideas are on the level of the mind, none of that is it either. Various experiences may give one a glimpse of reality but they are just experiences and still on the level of the mind. 'Enlightenment', to use the term relevant here, is not an experience and not a 'state', it is who we are and it's right here right now. This is it in spite of circumstances or position or absolutely anything you can see, or feel or experience. This is it in it's entirety, you just have to see it as that and realise it fully. Meanwhile, life appears to carry on regardless.
i am
Mind can't go beyond Mind. What's beyond mind? Answer: More mind
As soon as mind form an image or an idea about what's beyond it. It brings down the unknown or the truth down it's level. So Mind can never Realize the Truth or the unknown cuz if it will realise it would be know not unknown. So stop seeking Truth and when you will put aside all your efforts then Truth will come into existence or the other way to put it is that The Truth is always there and there is nothing to realise. When the truth exists the experiencer or the mind or the evaluator is not there. So you can never derive any pleasure from the Truth cuz the Deriver will not exist.
That’s all I wanted to say in a genuine way. Thank you 🙏
@@mat.se57 hey no worries. Wow, I wrote that 4 years ago. I wouldn't write it any differently now, the truth never changes. All the best.
Absolutely beautiful! So glad and amazed that you made this spiritual journey with so less guidance! Also glad that the technique of vipassana has penetrated to even Argentina! This is the original teaching of Buddha taught at centers all over India and abroad. I agree with you deciding to stop "pursuing" enlightenment but please don't discontinue vipassana. Practice it regularly. Mangal ho!
I like eckhart tolles view. If you are fully here in the present moment, you are enlightend. To want to achive enlightenment implies that you want to sustain that level of consiousness, sustain implies future, and therefore by thinking about sustaining, you are not enlightened, being here now.
I'd rather have it happen spontaneously by surprise.
Every path will get you there.❤️
Hey Casper. Interesting. Tolle has been top of my reading list for a while but haven't got to it yet... Obviously there is more to what you're saying, but what is it? lol.... ok, so How do you live your life then? Your goal, I mean, is to live in the moment, so how do you go about achieving that? Or do you just tell yourself you are, haha? What does it even mean to 'live in the moment'. Were you searching for enlightenment before or interested ? These questions may be coming across adversarial or sarcastic but I'm not at all, please don't think that. Hate to be cliché but I go through life like a kid at a carnival, my interest is sincere
Hey! It just occurred to me, is that the same as living in the moment? lol
Hello:) Yes its living in the moment. Im not searching for enlightenment. But if im for more than a few hours (rare now) forgets what matters, the present, the only place life occurs, there is suffering arising, probably because i have lived that way to much and its not an option for me to begin living that way again. I just do what works for me:)
You have to lose your desires(all of them,even desire of enlightenment) before ...peace and love
malena anja No, i dont agree. If you wanna be the Buddha you must have strong desire to achieve buddhahood!
Ηλίας Νίκου there is a place behind our mind and ego,when we go there we can understand..🙏
I think absence of desire is misunderstood. I see it like I already had 3verything I ever wanted so now I can stop desire things and just enjoy
I have lost my desire to lose my desire to lose my desires
Anastasios Tsiolakidis that's too deep for me 😁
Searching for enlightenment is just like running away from it. Because you are already born enlightenment, you just forgotten to lighten up.💜🙏
:DDDD im just shock how many idiots we have in this planets
True enough
Thank you for sharing. I pray that the truth will continue to set you free.
Very insightful!! Lessons are taught in accordance to one's fitness to learn(;
When you throw the definitions and labels away and not live by them, when you realize that the truth is out there no matter what you believe or seek, when you just do for doing and not for achieving, and sit and just be, you will find a treasure hidden in the plain. Whether that is enlightenment or not, well, who cares...
Oscar, I am glad it resonated with you!
Zeratul Of Aiur I agree 100% . It’s taken me 40 years of various life experiences to come to the conclusion that you just stated.
btw, labels are like lids placed on a pot of boiling water. Loose lid, or air tight, the water will escapade, one way or the other
Why can't you "be" & "do"? I didn't come here to simply sit on a park bench & watch the World go by....
Surely it's important, & even essential, to be able to find peace in "being", but this World is full of things to see & do, places to go, people to meet, things to learn, & experiences to have (hopefully more good than not). And you will get attached to those things, & have desire for more. That is part of being human, & the essence of being alive.
I've been on the "spiritual path" for many years, had my awakening, & honestly, there are aspects of "Oneness" I'd rather not have....
I just want to be free be me, & be as happy & peaceful as possible doing what I love, while still doing my part to be considerate of the whole.
The constant seeking, self improving, monitoring of every thought & feeling to align with "Source" to get what you desire (which I realize is just another form of materialism), & pursuit of enlightenment is draining. It has done nothing but kept me focused in my head or heart (which few will admit, is not any better) because it takes you out of being present.
I feel myself turning more & more away from "spirituality". Many philosophies & gurus place too much responsibility on a person to control everything about themselves & life.
Frankly, I don't think any religion or philosophy has it all figured out or is perfect, & you have to do what works for you.
But, I find myself turning more to Christianity; at least it's largely about love & forgiveness, & it takes some of the weight off my shoulders.
Enlightenment is actually Living Love, Peace, Joy, Truth, Creativity, Compassion (Passion for All)...Communicating, Communing, Connecting, with everyone and everything, in each and every moment of daily life.
Totally Free from fear, anxiety, personal sorrow, hatred, loneliness, inner conflicts, inner contradictions, jealousy, envy, greed, possessiveness, competitiveness, and attachments.
Totally Free from beliefs, philosophies, ideologies, theories, opinions, perspectives, biases, prejudices, nationality, and identifications.
Totally Free from the I, the me, the self, and the so-called True or Higher Self, which is the invention of the past conditioning of the brain.
All of which limit, color, shape & distort Perception, and therefore, prevents Lucidity.
They who are Totally Enlightened actually treat everyone, without exception, with the same intensity and quality of care and affection that you would give your dearest closest friend, lover, or child, without any sense of division, separation or distance and without an iota of bias or prejudice, in each and every moment of their daily life.
Enlightenment does not take time. Enlightenment is not of time. It is not a process. It is not the product of time or the things of time, eg. method, technique, diet, yoga. There is no path to it. It is effortless and choiceless. It happens faster than the speed of light. Moreover, it is once and for all, now and forever.
Do Jacob's Ladder. Set yourself Totally Free of fear, anxiety, sorrow, envy, greed, jealousy, violence, hatred, loneliness, attachments, competitiveness, ambition, bias, and prejudice in daily, once and for all, now and forever. There's no reason why anyone need waste another day trapped in the Matrix of self-deceptions. See my group on FB called "Total Enlightenment NOW!".
Don't guess. Do Jacob's Ladder and See directly. All so very simple.
Enlightenment is not the product of time.
Now, all that is left is to inquire who this 'I' is that wants to pursue enlightenment, to follow this 'I' back to its source. Hmm. It is 'here'. Who is this 'I' that experiences? Just find out within yourself. It's so simple yet so hard to comprehend.
I love this! ❤️
Who/what is it that tries to keep stable? Enlightenment is realizing what you really are...which is ever-stable.
Great Talk could really relate... Enlightened is a concept that has been marketed to us as something "elusive" by self help gurus & mystics. Hence we "seek" enlightenment. Being in the now is great experience. Be concious & aware helps me to experience life in a better way. Hence I try to make a concsious effort, be watchful of my thoughts, emotions & my monkey mind. I truly believe in Self Observation & meditating. The way hollywood and films industries of have marketed the concept of " True Love" & conditioned us to believing in it, similarly a lot of gurus have marketed the concept of enlightenment as the greatest experience. While some people may disagree with my interpretation/ experience & I can write a compelling argument on if Enlightenment exist or whether we view it as an achievement or something to be pursued. The reality of life in very basic terms is food shelter clothing & death. This has not changed & will not change as long as humanity exists. Meditation & Being in the now can really enhance our experience & perception.
Enlightenment is simply a shift in your perspective on how you see yourself and the world around you, a radical shift. Not an experience.
What an amazing talk!
How can you pursue no-thing? By not pursuing he has found theres nothing to find.
If had this video on my playlist for 5 years never watched it ,and i just watched it on the right time ...unbelievable...
I kinda had the thought of stopping now its confirmed..🙏
Inspiring, thank you
I like the part about equanimity. That’s what I’ve been having trouble with.
bravo one of the best speeches I heard
you should write a short book
No one have reach enlighment for a long time, but the path toward awakening is a lot like improvised happiness.
Last time I used my enlightenometer, I measured enlightenites coming out of people...
What is that noise at the 10:13-10:16 or so mark??
Thank You
Thank you
Letting go of resistance, judgement and expectation is the key. This guy found out the hard way. Now he’s close minded to what the Universe has to offer the initiate.
Great guy. What a journey!
Thanks for sharing bro
I reached enlightenment by mistake and now that I got here I really have no idea what to do
Graham Hancock is the author Anne Baring refers to.
I’ve always thought once a awakening starts it’s there with ya.
Many have had profound realizations and experiences that have faded, but that doesn't necessarily mean that permanent versions are impossible.
That is enlightening what your describing mate at the end comments i mean, you have actually done it without relising
It sounds like you turned Everything into a Challenge and a Goal rather than take the time to let it unfold.naturally and to Realize the True Self when IT was ready to Reveal itSelf..I feel he rushed thru All of his Experiences which left him Empty and Exhausted, understandably..God Bless and Thanks for Sharing. 🙏
This guy needs to read the canon Pali to really understand "enlightenment" according to Buddhism not Hermann Hesse.
Right
Yes. The goal of seeking is to realise there is no personal seeker. Thus the seeking stops and living in the real reality of "oneness" begins :)
And what exactly is it that you think “oneness” is? If it’s true, it should horrify you to your core. It is not a good or cool thing. I’m sick of hearing about this nonsense from people who clearly can’t even grasp the weight of it.
Beautiful talk! Excellent. Should have hundreds of thousands of views. Siddhartha is my favorite book of all time. Compassion and wisdom is what it's all about. Thank you for sharing your journey.
Hey Ricardo!
I get the feeling that you stopped your search because it was wrong aimed since the beginning. Enlightenment is a slow and hard process, and the key point is Renunciation. Renounce to material possessions, ideas and even relationships. It's not an easy task. Being sincere you never started trying, you only made a tinny step with the ten days course.
Please do not share wrong ideas or personal misinterpretations that generate self-conformism.
I hope some day you have the courage to really start the path. You are very close!
Keep trying, push hard... you'll get results!
Metta
Lucas Cambon. pushing hard and hard roads etc, are wasted energy. enlightenment is something you already possess, you just need to accept you do.
Renunciation (at least in the Buddhist sense) is not renouncing to material possessions, ideas and relationships. It is renouncing to your craving and grasping at them, renouncing at the impulse of trying to take refuge and self-serving satisfaction in them.
Nicolas Bachand yes, that’s the technical explanation. You are right, but at the same time when you realised that you no more have attachment to all that stuff automatically you leave them i.e. never want to have material possesions again. You’ve realised that it is pointless.
Metta!
Just be present. It's not a pursuit, it's a being.
His pursuit exhausted me.
Craving was his obstacle and I'm surprised he did not learn that in his Vipassana course. At least he has been honest with his intentions.
Enlightenment, I argue, is the sustained practice of critical thinking and humility, briefly put. Acknowledging that the former has many definitions, in my honest judgement, Dr. Richard Paul was an individual who defined it (critical thinking) well. It is interesting that several 'enlightened' psychologists have claimed that not many people reach this point of existence. From the perspective of cognitive development, I can see why: Where one focuses their attention is virtually crucial to 'seeing the light.' Perhaps experience can encourage one's development towards this cognitive destination, but there is more to it than that. Knowing is not enough. Effective reasoning (critical thinking) can help one not only truly make the discovery of enlightenment, but self-regulate their practice of it as well. One can find balance on the beam, but it will take awareness and volition to maintain it. When one puts too much emphasis on experience, like a song or a trend- things of material essence, there will be an exhaustion of sustaining the practice of, in this case, Enlightenment.
Enlightment us a sift in experience
Please don't stop this pursuit. It is the most important of all. Please read the book The Heartfulness Way by Kamlesh D Patel & Joshua Pollock.
Guy who goes on to a path of enlightenment and says. That he never. found it but he has excepted his true self thats really the key to enlightenment. becoming ones true self
Isn't it said that when you stop pursuing it that you will find it?
When mind is in pure silence
.........it will reveal that which makes this body moves
So why did he stop?
Enlightenment is at home, with our parents. Try be enlightened around your family. Thats hard.
Loved your story pal!
Great. Good to hear this and spoken with truth from his own experience.
I achieved enlightenment, but I turned my back on it. It's extremely difficult to grasp, but rather simple once you get it. All concepts are only granted meaning inside of our minds. Similarly, the idea of there being a separate entity controlling your body is also just an idea wihout inherent meaning. Once you realize this on an intuitive level your reality starts crashing down, everything you look at turns into dust until a total lack of substance remains and you'll see the universe for what it is, the veil of ego being lifted. At this stage I forced myself back into the illusion by holding on to what was left of me before it all dissapeared. I did this because it felt like dying and I didn't want to die. Enlightenment is not fun, it's just truth. If you can't bear not knowing the truth of the universe then sure, try to take a look, but I don't recommend it and I'd wager that most people pursuing enlightenment aren't really looking for it but rather some mystical experience. Things are good in the illusion world.
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Drunkards Debauchery To be clear, the process I followed was systematically destroying my ego by examining every part of it. A process called spiritual autolysis by Jed McKenna. By getting to the bottom of your beliefs you start seeing that they aren't actually grounded in anything. By doing so you dissociate more and more from the reality you've been spoonfed and you slowly start seeing the world for what it is. If you keep taking your reality apart, at some point you'll hit some core of your beliefs and you'll truly see that they're all based on nothing. That's when you'll get enlightened. There is no shortcut through this process. I can tell you everything I have been through but you'd still have to do the work yourself to truly get it on a visceral experiential level.
Can someone attain enlightenment just through meditation?
Fabi Yang Nirvana is a spiritual deception.
Baba Mahmudov I don't think you can. You can reach some amazing mental states with meditation. Total bliss, a taste of heaven, and even the experience of total nothingness at the higher jhana's. But it won't last. Enlightenment in my view is abiding, though there are of course different definitions of enlightenment. Depends on what your goal is, I suppose. Meditation will give you a lot of clarity and it can certainly speed the process up, but to achieve enlightenment you need to actively examine reality, in my experience. Read Jed McKenna's books, if you'd like.
The real question I think you should ask is why you'd want enlightenment in the first place. By definition 'you' certainly won't be there to see it. Every part of you that would appreciate it will be dead, and you'll think nothing of it. It's not eternal bliss, which doesn't exist. It's just clarity beyond all that makes you human. If you're looking for something you can be proud of you'll never reach it because that's not what it is.
This dude is so pragmatic that he discovered enlightenment and did not even realize it lol. The universe decided to take him on a flight of frenzy 😆 Dude was trying to see the back of his head. "what you are trying to see with your eyes, is the one looking through your eyes." This is what happens when people dabble into metaphysics without learning what it truly is about.
The energy that sponsors this comment is egoic rendering your status ironic and un authoritative . “😆” Defending your beliefs is a sign there is something threatened.
AMAZINGGG.....
when your consciousness will transcend u ll be frightened,enlightenment is not for faint hearted
Ayayayay. See the problem is that a farmer is so close to getting there until reading such sentence. I have yet to figure out what "consciousness transcendence" mean. Actually, in simple words, it is best described as: .
@Dev Jaiswal: Yeah, they say it means "one" with the universe, at least in the English translation, which I don't like. Not two is much deeper than one. When you say one, you are implying an object or action. When you are saying NOT two, you are rejecting an object, without actually defining something. That is why I say, it is best described as:
But what u said is little right and little wrong.. The things is when I did samadhi.. There was a experience of expansion but then I become doubtful or lets say fearful.. It doesn't come to us we become that.. So then it stopped.. But I have experienced a bit of it. And that experience was like.. Best of anything in the world.. Anything.. And now I am gonna do it.. Get guided by guru sadhguru and do Yoga and meditation
Illusion vs Infinite Truth Most are more comfortable in an illusion. Few truly are prepared for the Infinite Truth.
None of you know what you are talking about! And, neithert do i!
No body can EVER become enlightened. You want enlightenment? You can't have it. Because YOU are simply an experience, you are not "you" , so how can you realize you aren't you? You can't! The illusory self cannot realize it is illusory, because it doesn't exist. Wake up!!
EXACTLY!!!
The Ego can be enlightened to know that it is just an idea. The Ego will brag about it. But to that which the Ego, the colors, and sounds appear, there is no Enlightenment as you surely know :)
You did not stop pursuing enlightenment you ARE enlightened!
To be enlightened, one must stop desiring to be enlightened, because desire is a hindrance to enlightenment as they say in Buddhism.
Enlightenment is alignment of body, mind and spirit. We are born enlightened and what happens is we forget. It is not a college certificate you pursue, achieve and then possess. It is a state of being that in any moment in time you either are or you are not.
What I find so amusing is when he told himself he would find enlightenment each day in the forest and then proclaimed that he never did. All he found was peace and worthiness and self love....
Based on my understanding , what you do after attaining enlightenment is more important. To decide what function and role you can serve to the society and universe. Just like what Gautama did when he tried to save everyone from suffer. Think this is close to what Ricardo started focusing on in the end of his journey?
He might have actually learned a lot about himself and the world without knowing it, and "stopping his pursuit of Enlightenment" might have been a product of his own learning. After all, could he have understood anything at all to reach a decision if he hadn't had those experiences? Maybe what he did learn is somehow to his very idea that "after all that I still didn't understand myself or the world any better". Does Enlightenment have any object ("the world", etc.) anyway? Instead of a positive understanding/not understanding of an object, isn't the very dissolving of the preconceived object at the very core of the path/Enlightenment? Very wisely, in my opinion, some have conceived of Enlightenment as not more of a goal than a method. If anything, it's rather both and none at the same time.
On a side note, there are things that need effort, practice, commitment, and a discipline that develop on the way. But for that, you obviously need to get started and keep it up for a while. Meditation can take so long for some to even take hold that they might not know what is happening to them, and maybe not knowing is even better than making a self-diagnosis and quit. So far clearly made me a calmer person, less neurotic. Maybe this means that little by little I am getting closer to reality as self dissolves. My point is I don't think we need for people to tell us all their experiences in this way, especially if they take it upon themselves to discourage us or prevent us from doing interesting things. Maybe not everything is TEDdable (?).
It’s good to hear from those who walked away with a silver medal. Silver is better than none. But please, don’t tell the world there is no gold. My ladder is not built, but I’ve seen over the wall. There is gold.
Vipassana is a GREAT experience.
In search of the truth the i have became enlightened and came to a big realization that the only thing that matters is what you do with your life to live a happy and joyful life. Take time to enjoy everyrhing you see. The Brain is able to see with the eyes your useing to read my message. make the best of yourself, teach your brain witch it does not know. The brain is where the consciousness exists and it need your phyaical body to help it learn. You are what you think. Love and you will be Loved. Detach yourself from all physical matter. We are born with nothing and we die with nothing . Everything has its time, life is a flow of energy moving at all time. So the time you have should be uaed wisely to bring to you true happyness.
i'm with you . well said !
Not yet there son...
You and enlightened?😂😂😂 come on man, wake up
I am from germany and dont understand the message.. is he enlightened now?
Nice to hear about people who find there path in life, thanks for helping out the humanity ☺
Whenever you failed you tried to catch enlightenment to forget about those failures and depression.
Enlightenment comes through curiosity and through the thirst for knowing not through the depression and failures.
As you were never and unable to grasp it so, there were no such thing like leaving it.
First I realised spirituality then I found book and UA-cam videos. First reading a book then fall for it isn’t the process.
Searching for enlightenment using your mind, you will never find it, enlightenment doesn't happen until you lose the very thing you're using to try to find it. Meditate in silence and enlightenment will find you.
Enlightened Being
The audio is shot. Just mumbling at full volume
theres 4 stages based on how many of the 10 fetters you removed
To seek it, by definition means you don't have it ;]
Not literally
The very thought of pursuing itself will stop you from enlightening. 🙏
You have the keys to enlightenment, we are all one we are effected by the thoughts of others, to stay balanced is a good realization to have, I think it was the Buddha that said in order for us to have unconditional love for ourselves we must love and accept the bad parts of ourselves as well as the good, I think you where didcovering the mind separate from us with all its destructive thoughts and you became frightened thinking it was you
Let me share my experience with you here:
1. reality is a mix of our inner conditions. if you think, say something - as you've seen many times, it makes effect on what's around, earlier or later.
2. we have a lot of such conditions, and most of them we can't control.
3. there's a level, when you reach such level of these conditions mix, that it pushes you to beyond of anything you've ever known. like a birth.
4. pursuit of enlightenment or such transformation is as natural as being born, but spiritually, I had so many mystical, unexplained experiences in my life that no doubt - we know only a small fraction of our nature. And you never know what it's like to be enlightened before you reach it - so the only thing you do is to be patient and push in right moment.
Thanks for sharing your experience!!
If you catch just a glimpse of the totality reflected in your heart or soulyour gonna be floored -when you scrape yourself up again you can be sure it's your ego springing back again
While there is an uncovering, layer by layer of our true selves we are not pursuing anything because we already have it. We are just being in our true selves. We can choose our focus on the ego or the higher self, but we are never ridding ourselves of either, just merging both in a state of balanced consciousness where awareness and surrender to what is takes place naturally. It’s a state of being not pursuing. Although there is work involved with releasing the old. Healing requires change and changes require consciously aware work on ourselves. Again it’s not about pursuing but about uncovering truth that’s already there within us.
Enlightenment is a goal predicated from confusion a process of development can a process deconstruct this development and confusion from a state by process which negates the confusion to enlightenment surely this process is a concept dependent upon it's negation and gaining clarity from confusion which predicated order from chaos in that direction but observable order results in chaos over time
Live life that's it. No matter how.
noted. end grasping
This talk is amazing!!!🙌
What he said in the end does have meaning. We never focus on "why" we need enlightenment. Is it a form of escapism? He realised his why wasn't sufficient and decided to stop pursuing it and be a better human being instead, which in itself is a step to enlightenment. Be a good human being first, then a saint. However, one should never abandon enlightenment rather than surrendering to divine will. Buddha suggested the middle path, it must be not his time.
THANK YOU RICARDO FOR SHARING YOUR REALIZATION. JUST WANT A NEEDED TO HEAR. JUST WOW!!
There were many moments where I thought oh my goodness that could be me.
Did it seem as Siddhārtha Gautama used altered states and even insanity to look for the freedom of enlightenment? Thanks for sharing your story. I shared it at facebook.
Poor audio, can't hear a thing on my speaker phone.