Re: Greg Sage. He owned the mono record cutting machine, which had been used to cut "Louie Louie" by the Kingsmen for all the Wipers records and several other Portland bands. He then sold it to Fred Cole (guitarist and vocalist on this), who was also living in Portland and Fred used it to press all of his PDX bands "The Rats" and "Dead Moon's" records, as well as others released on Fred's "Tombstone Records" label. It was a very wonderful, thriving and close musical community then, and the grunge hit, but then when all the bands that moved to Seattle and couldn't get a Sub Pop contract (Like Everclear) moved down to Portland....boom...there went the Portland scene, co-opted by the wannabe's. But the conversation here about Greg and Fred bring back good memories. Thanks for posting this
The staccato rhythm and urgent breathless vocs are outstanding. Top garage psych, more psychotic than anything of it's era! There's a bit of Arthur Lee's Love, Electric Prunes and The Sonics all in there.
Dunno if you know The Misunderstood, a 60's US Psychedelic/Garage band from Riverside/California. A then unknown John Ravenscroft, later better known as John Peel brought them to England to record six songs, which would later appear on the "Before The Dream Faded" lp. Each of them songs stands a comparison in terms of speed and power, and are as psychotic and ferocious as this one, or 7&7 Is, I Had To Much To Dream Last Night or Psycho. Here's a link, in case you don't know them, hope you enjoy: ua-cam.com/video/wbwWFVoaRhY/v-deo.html
@vonsmitty1313 Yes, I totally agree. Greg Sage is pretty vague when talking about his influences, but he has mentioned Love and the album Forever Changes. This just seems to be more raw and visceral. No strings or horns, but equally as cool and powerful.
I was fortunate to see Fred play a show with his wife here in Boise in or around 2012 (Can't remember exact date) as "The Pierced Arrows." He played this song as his finale, and it literally brought tears to my eyes...so frickin' good. Just imagine how this song must have sounded back in 1968...how many minds must have been blown..
i got the Rhino nuggets cd box set for christmas. This track (which can be found on disc 3 of the set) sounds amazingly ahead of its time. Considering what would follow in rock (punk, metal, grunge, etc.), it has aged well. Hats off to this group for a damn fine job! ;)
I like the story of how this band got famous for a bit. They were called the Weeds and they tried to avoid the draft by running to Canada, but got stuck in Portland with no money, so they played gigs around town and got know locally and then changed their name to the lollipop shoppe. pretty interesting.
then they became The Rats which had members of the wipers....on another note this sounds so modern compared to most garage rock of the area....sounds well produced
Fred Cole (August 28 1948 - November 9 2017) He was lead singer for The Weeds in 1966 with the single 'It's your time' but a new manager required The Weeds to change their name to The Lollipop Shoppe because he also managed The Seeds and thought the names were too similar and they then released their album 'Just Colour' and its single "You Must Be a Witch" didn't chart under that name in 1968 . The Lollipop Shoppe broke up in 1969 but reappeared as The Weeds again with another single ' Someone I knew ' in 1971.
YEAH ! long before I ever got see Dead Moon , I found their German Live LP, and they did a great version of "Witch" . They played it nearly every time I saw them, which was like , it's up to you if you want to do it or not , but I'm glad you did. They also did a remake of "Don't Look Back" by The Lollipop Shoppe in '92.
@11xzxzxz Yeah. The drumming is great but almosat impossible to hear on the original recording. On the remastered CD however, all the details shine thru. But, a powerful song nonetheless. Stay rock
A 5 star song: You Must Be A Witch - The Weeds - 1967 - "Their BEST known song when they were known as "Lollipop Shoppe"." - The Weeds aka The Lollipop Shoppe (Way Back)-2007. NOTE: Fred Cole headquartered in Portland, Oregon went on to become Dead Moon (Garage-Rock Revival-Punk)~1990.
pernicketty - ABSOLUTELY; has to be in My all-time top-15 of 60s garage records, bracketed with: We the People "Mirror Of Your Mind" and Kenney & The Kasuals "Journey To Tyme"
, Greg & Co did cover this, but after my band, the Stump Wizards disolved. We covered this song in 1988. Stump Wizards were on Greg's lable Get Hip for years, and we toured with The Cynics a good bit in the late 80s. Greg and Michael are good people, Get Hip was a cool lable to be on, and The Cynics are a great band.
Re: Greg Sage. He owned the mono record cutting machine, which had been used to cut "Louie Louie" by the Kingsmen for all the Wipers records and several other Portland bands. He then sold it to Fred Cole (guitarist and vocalist on this), who was also living in Portland and Fred used it to press all of his PDX bands "The Rats" and "Dead Moon's" records, as well as others released on Fred's "Tombstone Records" label. It was a very wonderful, thriving and close musical community then, and the grunge hit, but then when all the bands that moved to Seattle and couldn't get a Sub Pop contract (Like Everclear) moved down to Portland....boom...there went the Portland scene, co-opted by the wannabe's. But the conversation here about Greg and Fred bring back good memories. Thanks for posting this
Fred + Toody forever
Paved the way for punk. Just listen to this and the Damned 76.
The staccato rhythm and urgent breathless vocs are outstanding.
Top garage psych, more psychotic than anything of it's era!
There's a bit of Arthur Lee's Love, Electric Prunes and The Sonics all in there.
Dunno if you know The Misunderstood, a 60's US Psychedelic/Garage band from Riverside/California. A then unknown John Ravenscroft, later better known as John Peel brought them to England to record six songs, which would later appear on the "Before The Dream Faded" lp. Each of them songs stands a comparison in terms of speed and power, and are as psychotic and ferocious as this one, or 7&7 Is, I Had To Much To Dream Last Night or Psycho. Here's a link, in case you don't know them, hope you enjoy: ua-cam.com/video/wbwWFVoaRhY/v-deo.html
more psychotic than the count five WOW!
@@ForARideGolden Glass is a winner!!
Really clear influence to The Wipers. This is awesome, thanks for sharing it.
@vonsmitty1313 Yes, I totally agree. Greg Sage is pretty vague when talking about his influences, but he has mentioned Love and the album Forever Changes. This just seems to be more raw and visceral. No strings or horns, but equally as cool and powerful.
Yes! I just stumbled upon Dead Moon this morning, as i was listening to several songs, I thought the same thing, Wipers, so cool
Thank you, I love the Wipers and never noticed that before!
RIP Fred Cole! And thank you for leaving us with this TIMELESS INCREDIBLE track!!
Fred...so beautiful. We sure miss you.
I was fortunate to see Fred play a show with his wife here in Boise in or around 2012 (Can't remember exact date) as "The Pierced Arrows." He played this song as his finale, and it literally brought tears to my eyes...so frickin' good. Just imagine how this song must have sounded back in 1968...how many minds must have been blown..
It does remind me a lot of Arthur Lee and Love, as others have mentioned.
YES, First thing I thought of, specially the vocals, but also the tune itself sounds like an outtake from an early album by Love and Arthur Lee.
i got the Rhino nuggets cd box set for christmas. This track (which can be found on disc 3 of the set) sounds amazingly ahead of its time. Considering what would follow in rock (punk, metal, grunge, etc.), it has aged well. Hats off to this group for a damn fine job! ;)
Fred Cole is a National Treasure. This song was actually recorded in 1967 when the band was still called The Weeds
Definitely influenced by Beck era y
.Yardbirds. No bad thing as most of the best garage punk bands were influenced by the Yardbirds and the Kinks.
Fred Cole is a verifiable god.
RIP Fred.
wow... so much like "LOVE" band. love this sound
Fred was heavily influenced by Arthur Lee , and Roky Erickson.
One person sucks. Long live Fred Cole!
Excellent song, ahead of its time..Bridges the gap between garage and hard rock.
I like the story of how this band got famous for a bit. They were called the Weeds and they tried to avoid the draft by running to Canada, but got stuck in Portland with no money, so they played gigs around town and got know locally and then changed their name to the lollipop shoppe. pretty interesting.
And afterwards, since they had changed their names to Lollipop Shoppe, the draft no longer had any interest in any of them. (I made this part up)
@@kevinleeds979 Shoulda sent them all to Nam like the rest of us!
then they became The Rats which had members of the wipers....on another note this sounds so modern compared to most garage rock of the area....sounds well produced
Fred Cole (August 28 1948 - November 9 2017) He was lead singer for The Weeds in 1966 with the single 'It's your time' but a new manager required The Weeds to change their name to The Lollipop Shoppe because he also managed The Seeds and thought the names were too similar and they then released their album 'Just Colour' and its single "You Must Be a Witch" didn't chart under that name in 1968 . The Lollipop Shoppe broke up in 1969 but reappeared as The Weeds again with another single ' Someone I knew ' in 1971.
Joann. Tilyery.
grande fred cole....
listening to this I guess Jay Reatard's been very influenced by the singer. Can't believe it was made at 1968
I really wouldn't call Dead Moon's version a cover. More like a celebration of Fred Cole's past.
YEAH ! long before I ever got see Dead Moon , I found their German Live LP, and they did a great version of "Witch" . They played it nearly every time I saw them, which was like , it's up to you if you want to do it or not , but I'm glad you did. They also did a remake of "Don't Look Back" by The Lollipop Shoppe in '92.
I always says this is the parent to Dirty Boots by Sonic Youth.
hardest song from the sixties
+Matt Guthrie
Hardly
What is that girl's name? Why doesn't she. Mainly because she won't. I wish she would. But I know she won't.
Killer Garage Punk classic!
i think they re Fred Cole's former group...before the Dead Moon
@dukeyflyswatter
Fuzztones even did two different versions, furthermore Mono Men, Cynics, Philisteins, Birdmen Of Alkatraz, Flying Tygers...
Bietel
And Stiv Bators.
His version was very Stiv like.
He had good taste.
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An incredibly full and heavy guitar tone for '68, wow.
Sounds like very early Love.
R.I.P. Fred Cole
An easy life in heaven with a thousand other guys
YEH ! YEEEEHHHHH!!!!!
Only if you're gay!
Dead Moon sounds almost identical to these guys....at least the singing
Ironic
Wow the angry samoans ripped off this song. Unhinged.
Their influences were from 60's garage, going in that direction later on.
it's weird, they sound like some 80-90's alternative stuff etc.. but.. jesus christ..
Portland Oregon, RIP Fred!
Did anyone else come straight from the stiv bators version
Fred Cole went on to play in an 80's band called Dead Moon
@11xzxzxz
Yeah. The drumming is great but almosat impossible to hear on the original recording. On the remastered CD however, all the details shine thru. But, a powerful song nonetheless. Stay rock
A 5 star song: You Must Be A Witch - The Weeds - 1967 - "Their BEST known song when they were known as "Lollipop Shoppe"." - The Weeds aka The Lollipop Shoppe (Way Back)-2007. NOTE: Fred Cole headquartered in Portland, Oregon went on to become Dead Moon (Garage-Rock Revival-Punk)~1990.
what a song.. :) :)
@marko65
Yep, and about a dozen other bands. The Dead Moon website had a cool list, time to put it up again (it's down for 'repair')
early hard rock i love it rock on rock hard
wow, I don't know, but it wouldn't be a surprise to me. I know the black lips are covering this song at the moment
R.I.P., Fred.
Now we know where Jack and The White Stripes came from. Its all in this one song.
@jmak224
I can ask Fred, if he remembers the words I'm sure he wants to write them down.
@jasonpp1973
I love Love. haha and this isn't so bad either.
RIP Fred Cole :((((((
Grew up with you guys in the 60"s in Vegas, RIP Fred were not far behind!
@huskyjerk
They did, yeah. B-side of 7" a decade ago, and now back on the set list every now & then.
what are the chords for this song!
whoever posted this - mucho thanks
Didn't The Damned do this live? Never heard it. They'd always do psychedelic covers.
Yep. In 1988.
Respond to this video... And you could say that Dead Moon's version is "original" seeing as it's Fred Cole.
pernicketty - ABSOLUTELY; has to be in My all-time top-15 of 60s garage records, bracketed with:
We the People "Mirror Of Your Mind" and Kenney & The Kasuals "Journey To Tyme"
the Weeds.
RIP Fred
Seen,Dead Moon,The Droogs,The Fuzztones and Haunted Garage cover this.
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I'm seeing a few covers of this song onyoutube's suggestions on the side of the screen. So is this the original? Either way, it's my favorite
dang i remember this song when i had the album in the late 60s fred cole was the singer. i still have this album but it skips...lol
THE WEEDS! What A FREEKIN' COOL BAND NAME!
@zuss10r
You too huh? Got one for twelve years or so now!
so much resembles to "Love" band
HAHAAAH me too!
i found this on accident
and was like
wtf richie
the cynics from pittsburgh cover this
Yeah. Fred and Toody really liked them , too.
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, Greg & Co did cover this, but after my band, the Stump Wizards disolved. We covered this song in 1988. Stump Wizards were on Greg's lable Get Hip for years, and we toured with The Cynics a good bit in the late 80s.
Greg and Michael are good people, Get Hip was a cool lable to be on, and The Cynics are a great band.
check out the Weeds, his band before this group.
Dead moon ish..... A new favorite thing....
RIP
R.I.P. Fred. Portland misses you
So gooooooood
@jmferris Yeah, it is a sonic lesson in "less is more"
now I know where the Zutons got there act from
I'ma bout to buy the practical viscosity. Let's break the heart of the stabularity.
Fuck Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!
you must be a witch, cause i am living in hell
@CrazeeTori9 Yes, this is the original version.
@TheShaman74
yes, it's true
This song could be about Fann Wong.
FUCK YEAH !!!!!
@TheShaman74
yes, it's true
Sage is a creep.
richie belton skate video
Very cool...RIP Fred
stefano trio
richie belton skate video
Thanks for this you tuber
must be a b
RIP Fred
FRED!
blacks lips. live.
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this song is soo good, i like the cover Lost Sounds did of it too!!
Wow! Fred ❤️
Great song!
Sounds just like LOVE!
i love it....
I'd have to look it up. Been so long since I've listened to it. But, yes, the Fuzztones sounds correct.
I have a cover of this from the 1980's. Great little tune! Thanks for posting!