Firearms Expert Reacts To Destiny 2: Lightfall Guns

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
  • Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down more of the weaponry of Destiny 2, specifically from its Lightfall Expansion and Season of the Defiance, including the Trust Hand Cannon, the Quicksilver Storm, and the Nameless Midnight.
    00:00 - Opening
    00:42 - Perpetualis Auto Rifle
    01:38 - Round Robin Hand Cannon
    02:35 - Senuna SI6 Sidearm
    04:26 - Quicksilver Storm Auto Rifle
    05:54 - Battle Scar Pulse Rifle
    07:33 - Flash and Thunder Grenade Launcher
    10:30 - Trust Hand Cannon
    12:47 - Coronach-22 Auto Rifle
    14:33 - Basso Ostinato Shotgun
    15:29 - Deterministic Chaos Machine Gun
    17:26 - Nameless Midnight Scout Rifle
    18:32 - Ending
    In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down the guns of Destiny 2: Lightfall and compares them to their potential real-life counterparts.
    Firearms Expert Reacts playlist - • Firearms Expert Reacts...
    If you're interested in seeing more of Jonathan's work, you can check out more from the Royal Armouries right here. - / royalarmouries
    If you would like to support the Royal Armouries, you can make a charitable donation to the museum here. - royalarmouries.org/support-us...
    And if you would like to become a member of the Royal Armouries, you can get a membership here. - royalarmouries.org/support-us...
    You can either purchase Jonathan's book here. - www.headstamppublishing.com/b...
    Or at the Royal Armouries shop here. - shop.royalarmouries.org/colle...
    You can subscribe to the Armax Journal that Jonathan Associate Edited here: www.armaxjournal.org/
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  • @jet6283
    @jet6283 Рік тому +1314

    about the basso ostinato shotgun on 14:34 , the ingame lore literally states that we cannot leave the old pump-action model behind because its too reliable and jonathan mentioning that without even knowing about it makes it such a true statement

    • @willl5659
      @willl5659 Рік тому +32

      Ahh great observation!

    • @cainprescott4937
      @cainprescott4937 Рік тому +54

      The name being a reference to a musical term also sorta fits with the general... rhythm of using a pump-action. Pull the trigger, pull back the pump, slam it forwards, repeat until empty.

    • @Kazuhira2249
      @Kazuhira2249 Рік тому +8

      the ol reliable

    • @Lorentz_Driver
      @Lorentz_Driver Рік тому +13

      AKA lore to explain why Bungie is too lazy to make another shotgun animation

    • @oliveoil2549
      @oliveoil2549 Рік тому +55

      ​@@Lorentz_Driver *Conditional Finality has entered the chat*

  • @XenosInfinity
    @XenosInfinity Рік тому +1688

    It's probably worth mentioning for the Senuna that it's made by a company who use liquid ammunition for their guns - it's somewhere between a water pistol and an extremely misused 3D printer. Hence the "Fluid Dynamics" buff popping up in the corner, which is their manufacturer trait.

    • @user-og8xv1ih4p
      @user-og8xv1ih4p Рік тому +171

      Omolon?

    • @hudzj01
      @hudzj01 Рік тому +134

      It’s Omolon

    • @XenosInfinity
      @XenosInfinity Рік тому +116

      The name doesn't mean anything to anyone who doesn't already play the game. I didn't think it was important to include it.

    • @crimsonv4670
      @crimsonv4670 Рік тому +27

      @@XenosInfinity imean, i would expect fans of the game who just started would find it usefull to include.

    • @biohazard724
      @biohazard724 Рік тому +114

      "extremely misused 3d printer" is the best description of Omolon 😆

  • @thegloriouskingkronk8422
    @thegloriouskingkronk8422 Рік тому +483

    The first Autorifle, Perpetualis, has strings on it because it's meant to function as a musical instrument of some kind. All the Lost/Defiant weapons have this

    • @thif4722
      @thif4722 Рік тому +110

      The string instrument feature is not without reason. These weapons were made to fight against Savathun, an enchantress witch that uses her ''song'' to control people.

    • @Asturjgm
      @Asturjgm Рік тому +30

      Glad to see an explanation on why the season pass bow has tuners, really cool concept also tying to season of the lost weapons having some sort of "rythm" or musicality to them (e.g. wolftone draw)

    • @angelousmortis8041
      @angelousmortis8041 Рік тому +8

      Plus, I imagine it has something to do with Awoken Magic.

    • @brokenb0n35
      @brokenb0n35 Рік тому +10

      Explains why the Verglas Curve looks like a double-sided ice banjo.

    • @vipset87
      @vipset87 Рік тому +1

      I've learned more about destiny lore from the comment section than the actual game itself. Btw I jus reshaped my perpetualis at lvl 17. Lot of grind but I'm happy

  • @Gazooka
    @Gazooka Рік тому +152

    One cool thing bungie has with hand cannons (works with other weapons too) is if you’re using a controller if you squeeze the trigger slowly the hammer comes back and cylinder rotates.

    • @GremlinSciences
      @GremlinSciences Рік тому +5

      It actually works in a lot of games from other developers as well, just about every game developed with consoles as the intended platform will incorporate similar details. CoD CW was actually really cool in that regard because if you were using a PS5 controller then not only could you watch as your character slowly pulled the trigger but you could actually feel the weight of the trigger, I'm not sure if the feature made it to PC but it worked on XB1 if you managed to pair a PS5 controller to your console and fix Sony's wonky layout.

    • @JFTSwiertz
      @JFTSwiertz Рік тому

      ​@@GremlinSciences how did you manage to connect a ps5 controller to an Xbox?

    • @GremlinSciences
      @GremlinSciences Рік тому +1

      @@JFTSwiertz Three methods, in order of sketchiness:
      -Cloud/remote play and put up with the network latency
      -Tamper with the firmware to rewrite the USB connection details
      -Use an adapter device such as Xim or Cronus

    • @gwoody4003
      @gwoody4003 3 місяці тому

      The Jakobs weapons in Borderlands 3 feel like a real double-action trigger pull with the PS5 controller.

  • @wyattwilliams9087
    @wyattwilliams9087 Рік тому +251

    13:13 "if you squint, there are F2000 vibes to this"
    The XM8: "WHAT THE FU-"

    • @1IGG
      @1IGG Рік тому +31

      Yeah, it super reminded me of the XM8 immediately.

    • @LEGOEPIC1
      @LEGOEPIC1 Рік тому +17

      the stock was saying SCAR to me at first, but then I noticed the curved carry handle poking out from the beluga shell and came to the same conclusion

    • @jonnydurrant4189
      @jonnydurrant4189 Рік тому +15

      Yeah, screams XM8, a rare miss from Mr Ferguson

    • @hjm9586
      @hjm9586 Рік тому +2

      Thank you

    • @chibimeese8301
      @chibimeese8301 Рік тому +3

      i thought of it as an XM8 mixed with a nerf gun mixed with the pulse rifle from alien

  • @arcadeinvader8086
    @arcadeinvader8086 Рік тому +525

    the quicksilver storm is named as such because it uses some sort of liquid metal nanite fluid as ammunition. You can actually see it in the top of the gun slowly depleting as you fire it, and spiking out like it's been magnetized when you switch into grenade launcher mode

    • @wolffang-vz2ty
      @wolffang-vz2ty Рік тому +59

      its nanomachines son!
      the gun uses the super advanced nanites of neomuna

    • @jammyweegit1144
      @jammyweegit1144 Рік тому +47

      I love that Jonathan basically recreated the lore tab for the gun, where Elsie is trying to figure out how the gun works based on her knowledge of existing mechanisms and being ultimately baffled.

    • @mehphala9184
      @mehphala9184 Рік тому +6

      As well as sprouting out the side when the rockets fire

    • @Lorentz_Driver
      @Lorentz_Driver Рік тому +1

      And yet it still uses a straight pull mag.

    • @wolffang-vz2ty
      @wolffang-vz2ty Рік тому +9

      @@Lorentz_Driver where do you think the nanites get the material?

  • @felixtimmons6252
    @felixtimmons6252 Рік тому +314

    When Johnathan mentions that the cylinder on the trust hand cannon doesn’t actually turn, it is a graphical limitation because of the sheer rate of fire you get from this arguably fantastic hand cannon. I don’t know what platform the footage was captured on but if you use a gamepad and ease the trigger down you can watch as the cylinder fully rotates into position and the hammer comes all the way back to provide the right amount of thwackage to fire the gun. Now it doesn’t provide any increase to accuracy or stability which would be fantastic for bungie to work on, but it is a neat little nod to the proper function of a revolver style weapon

    • @jdiabl035
      @jdiabl035 Рік тому +22

      Underrated take, most folks don’t know this about hand cannons good call

    • @Halo916_
      @Halo916_ Рік тому +22

      It’s PC, you can tell by the placement of the Reticle being in the dead center of the screen. Console has the reticle lower on the screen

    • @MrINGSOC225
      @MrINGSOC225 Рік тому +13

      It's on PC, there is a press E to interaction during the burst pistol clip. That lack of a half press has always been an unfortunate side effect of a keyboard.

    • @templar804
      @templar804 Рік тому +19

      You can do this on PC if you plug in a controller. The first time I heard about this I tried it out, worked just fine.

    • @cykeok3525
      @cykeok3525 Рік тому +5

      It's possible that the frame rate of the recorded video presented to Jonathan made the full range of motion of the hammer, and the rotation of the cylinder, imperceptible.

  • @cashusbucks
    @cashusbucks Рік тому +687

    My favorite thing about these is every Destiny community member coming in to explain the weird quirks the weapons have.
    Banshee would be proud.

    • @frozenfreehand1997
      @frozenfreehand1997 Рік тому +40

      Banshee and Johnathan would get along very well

    • @cashusbucks
      @cashusbucks Рік тому +9

      @@frozenfreehand1997 Indeed

    • @amazingcmanps4gamer941
      @amazingcmanps4gamer941 Рік тому +13

      ​@@frozenfreehand1997 we need Bungie to bring Jonathan in as a character at least for a season. Could have the season based around making weapons. Possibly to fight The Witness.

    • @NightmareCo666
      @NightmareCo666 Рік тому +17

      ​@@amazingcmanps4gamer941 black armoury high priest Johnathon!

    • @realtlt
      @realtlt Рік тому +3

      Welp, I doubt Banshee would even remember who is Jonathan and why he is talking with a pre gold era guy

  • @DefinitelyEllie
    @DefinitelyEllie Рік тому +162

    I think for Destiny you should focus on the Foundry types, looking at the design types between weapons classes. And exotics getting their own part.

    • @thecrimsoncommando3875
      @thecrimsoncommando3875 Рік тому +4

      Yes to the foundries, and I think GameSpot has already 2(?) exotic videos.

    • @crowstray
      @crowstray Рік тому +2

      Tex Mechanica and Hakke for sure!

    • @friedtoads13
      @friedtoads13 Рік тому +4

      @@crowstray hakke tends to get the short end of the stick most the time, but they've always been my favorite.

    • @thecrimsoncommando3875
      @thecrimsoncommando3875 Рік тому +1

      @@friedtoads13 From best to worst, it's been Hakke, Veist, Suros, then Omolon. Omolon always felt weak compared to the others, and Suros gets edged out because Veist has the better origin trait.

    • @zyriathegreat6509
      @zyriathegreat6509 Рік тому +1

      ​@@thecrimsoncommando3875 D2 year 1 Uriel's Gift says your opinion is wrong

  • @Autonate_42
    @Autonate_42 Рік тому +162

    Are we finally about to see Jonathan react to the titanfall weapons. I really want to see his thoughts on the 40mm cannon, or the thermite launcher.

    • @codmanout9861
      @codmanout9861 Рік тому +16

      I would certainly hope so, since they showed the game in the intro. And I'm sorry, Apex really doesn't count. A fair number of guns work differently between the 2 games, and I want to see the anti-titan and titan weapons

    • @adammoore8203
      @adammoore8203 Рік тому +2

      Nathan I don't want to see that, as it will break my heart that we will never have another Titanfall 😢😅

  • @Skippydogo
    @Skippydogo Рік тому +36

    Love when they hand Johnathan something literally made of magic.

  • @SSD_Penumbra
    @SSD_Penumbra Рік тому +91

    I always loved how Destiny's weapons all signify that they are different in the sense that they come from different foundries or places.
    The Round Robin HC, Quicksilver AR, Basso shotgun and Deterministic MG all come from Neomuna, a settlement on Neptune that came from the moon called the Ishtar Collective. The HC and shotgun as shown are identical to those found on the moon in-game, albiet with the Cyberpunk-ish feel and less of the "artefacts used to ward off ghosts" from the Moon weapons. The Quicksilver and Deterministic were created for the Cloudstriders, who are biomechanical inhabitants of Neomuna.
    In almost the complete antithesis of this, are the Drifter's weapons, which have existed since the collapse of Earth in Destiny's lore. They are called "Dark Age" weapons and they all resemble real-world weaponry, like the old Breakneck gambit rifle looking like a mixture of an AK and a Ruger Mini 14, the Trust resembling a Colt SA revolver/Colt Navy or the Gambit shotgun, that resembles a modern day pump action shotgun, with gunmetal grey and wooden stocks.

    • @HajileMalach
      @HajileMalach Рік тому +2

      The Ishtar Collective is from Venus just as an FYI, not the moon.

    • @cataposs
      @cataposs Рік тому +3

      this ^, and also that the Cloudstriders aren't just the inhabitants of Neomuna: They're the heavily-augmented protectors of the city. Everyone else is normal, just in cryo

  • @coitusergosum2447
    @coitusergosum2447 Рік тому +68

    Never played Destiny, but that Quicksilver gun feels like it was designed by someone who used to imagine that their hotglue gun in DT Class was a fancy space gun, and would use the glue rods to reload it.
    I love it

    • @darkcheshireking
      @darkcheshireking Рік тому +9

      try it...the gunplay is by far and away the best in the videogame industry

    • @calus_bath_water
      @calus_bath_water Рік тому +20

      I hate destiny dont play it, it's my favorite game.

    • @monke1982
      @monke1982 Рік тому +5

      Quicksilver shoots nano machines that harden to cause physical Trauma

  • @andrethesergal1977
    @andrethesergal1977 Рік тому +14

    the next time you do this, you NEED to show him a slow trigger pull on the hand-cannons (use a controller and slowly pull the analogue trigger), just so he can see the full hammer and cylinder animation.

  • @phoenixmercurous884
    @phoenixmercurous884 Рік тому +112

    It could be fun to see the Royal Armouries Team's reactions to Warframe's weapons, both ranged and melee. From what I remember, some of them are almost reasonable weapons while others are completely off the wall insane.

    • @wolffang-vz2ty
      @wolffang-vz2ty Рік тому +9

      it all depends on where the weapon comes from as some of them aren't really "guns" but creatures you've somehow trained to attack what you point them at when you tell them to

    • @slipinoy
      @slipinoy Рік тому +5

      One of them is the literal ribbon gun

    • @TugaAvenger
      @TugaAvenger Рік тому +9

      A few recommendations:
      - Plinx
      - Arca Plasmor (perhaps Tenet)
      - Ogris with UT skin
      - Proboscis Cernos
      - Astilla Prime
      - Nukor
      - Corufell
      - Phenmor (if they show him the lore)
      - Tenet Diplos
      - Hek
      - Simulor
      - Miter
      - Epitaph
      And of course, the Corinth. Because we absolutely do need pump actions in space.

    • @jasutinborchert4418
      @jasutinborchert4418 Рік тому +1

      May I add: the Soma with its 300rpm fire rate

    • @burning_mat5307
      @burning_mat5307 Рік тому

      Kuva Bhramma

  • @zJoriz
    @zJoriz Рік тому +24

    I feel like Jonathan has finally descended all the stages of grief and ended up at acceptance.

  • @codmanout9861
    @codmanout9861 Рік тому +37

    I know it isn't a gun, but if they do another Destiny episode, I would love to see Jonathan's or one of his more archery themed associate's reaction to the Leviathan heavy bow. I mean, it's a plated compound bow with half inch thick steel cable for a bow string and arrows that are basically small ballista bolts.

    • @Emrirwastaken
      @Emrirwastaken Рік тому +12

      Not a steel cable, a full chain

    • @freedragoons
      @freedragoons Рік тому +1

      Not to mention the wall that is Heirarchy that somehow functions

    • @TorunSmokVT
      @TorunSmokVT Рік тому +4

      @@Emrirwastaken you're actually both right. its a chain and what looks like vehicular suspensions for the majority of its compound draw, and then a steel cable in the middle where you nock the arrows

    • @FEDsShotMOM
      @FEDsShotMOM Рік тому

      Heh trinity ghoul

  • @Serene0921
    @Serene0921 Рік тому +42

    The hammer and cylinder on the Hand-Cannons do actually move, on PC (where most of these clips come from), the motion is too fast for the screen to see, however if you look at clips from console, you can see that the hammer and cylinder move as you pull the trigger. Just thought it should be something I should mention

    • @luckhanh2549
      @luckhanh2549 Рік тому +2

      It is because controller have analog trigger that the game can use to make the hammer move, while on pc a mouse click is digital so it just can't do it.

    • @Serene0921
      @Serene0921 Рік тому

      @@luckhanh2549 ight

    • @bannedmann4469
      @bannedmann4469 Рік тому

      ​@@luckhanh2549 Yet another reason to avoid that version.

    • @luckhanh2549
      @luckhanh2549 Рік тому +2

      @@bannedmann4469 not sure why you hate pc version but if you plug a controller on pc version it does the same thing

    • @brawler5760
      @brawler5760 Рік тому +1

      @@bannedmann4469 Plug a controller into a PC and boom you’re good to go.

  • @Roadiedave
    @Roadiedave Рік тому +4

    In the game, Omlon is a weapons company that specialized in fluid ammunition. Those little tanks on the front of the 3-round burst style handgun are actually the magazine. Some of the larger Omlon weapons have visible tanks in their designs. Fun fact, the origin trait given to all Omlon weapons is "Fluid Dynamics" which provides more stable shots at the beginning of the magazine. This is because the ammo starts to slosh around when more air is in the mag.

  • @Awoken_Remmuz
    @Awoken_Remmuz Рік тому +118

    Lovely to see Jonathan back to watching some more tools of guardians. The more I see these videos the more obvious it is he'd prefer the Omolon foundry over all others the last city has.

    • @TheAHuman
      @TheAHuman Рік тому +18

      I would think he would like Hakke given they make the most “normal” firearms.

    • @Awoken_Remmuz
      @Awoken_Remmuz Рік тому +10

      @@TheAHuman true, tho he seems to get annoyed when sci-fi clings to hard to contemporary gun design.

    • @GremlinSciences
      @GremlinSciences Рік тому +2

      @@TheAHuman Hakke has realistic designs, but I wouldn't say that they're necessarily any more realistic than Omolon's. Omolon mostly makes energy weapons, which means they aren't bound by the same mechanical constraints as Hakke's slug-throwers, but they still take heavy inspiration from real guns like the K10 Vector and PDW-R.

    • @luigithewaddledee
      @luigithewaddledee Рік тому +1

      ​@@TheAHuman Or Tex Machina with them being based on older golden age weapons lost after the collapse

  • @dougcarey2233
    @dougcarey2233 Рік тому +7

    This guy is such a good sport. I like that he's obviously having fun analyzing some of these designs.

  • @optumis1433
    @optumis1433 Рік тому +71

    For Quicksilver storm, I’m surprised he didn’t talk about the grenade launcher mode

  • @eiriklarsen4608
    @eiriklarsen4608 Рік тому +17

    On Trust (the hand cannon) if you play on controller you can half squeeze the trigger, showing the hammer move back and cylinder rotate

    • @fire_man3173
      @fire_man3173 Рік тому +3

      actually, I believe you can do that with all revolvers.

    • @stevemc6010
      @stevemc6010 Рік тому +3

      It's been a feature since Destiny 2014

    • @WorkInProgressX
      @WorkInProgressX Рік тому

      @@fire_man3173 yes you can

  • @DragonCraft07
    @DragonCraft07 Рік тому +4

    It’s so interesting hearing the part about why historically grenade launchers where bounced to be less lethal, and the one in game is a blinding GL and less lethal than the other ones!

  • @shadyone6620
    @shadyone6620 Рік тому +7

    About Battle Scar - there are lots of Destiny year 1 scout & pulse rifles that have their magazines far behind the actual chamber and lock.

    • @DonoZ420
      @DonoZ420 Рік тому

      It’s shows up as strand gun when it’s not

  • @ADadasadasdadw
    @ADadasadasdadw Рік тому +5

    I'm suprised that he didn't mention the HK XM8 when reviewing the Coronach-22 Auto Rifle, because the front does look a lot like an XM8 with an extra housing around it to beef it up in width.

  • @TheEDFLegacy
    @TheEDFLegacy Рік тому +4

    I wish more channels had awesome long-term collaborations like this. I love how Jonathan can do what he loves, yet also do something really special with a completely special entity, such as Gamespot in this case. I'm sure there's also a monetary agreement as well, which is even better for the Royal Armouries. At least, I hope there is.

  • @Zyguard_101
    @Zyguard_101 Рік тому +4

    The trusts’ hammer and cylinder do actually move I was bored one day and started feathering the trigger on my controller and I thought it was a really neat detail

  • @typhoon37351
    @typhoon37351 Рік тому +2

    An interesting fact about Omolon weapons that has most likely already been mentioned- They actually use a liquid polymer as ammo. Literally the worlds deadliest squirt guns.

  • @EASasayaki
    @EASasayaki Рік тому +2

    Fun fact about any of the weapons labeled "Omolon" on them, they apparently function off of a "liquid ammo" kinda thing. "Exotic Polymers" as the first gun to introduce this described it all the way back in the original Destiny.
    If I remember correctly, Suros was all about "Form AND Function", so they all look more smooth, rounded even.
    Hakke is the one foundry most likely to look like real weapons, since they're just about all function.
    And then they got a whole bunch of random other small foundries that are either given their own marks or you just gotta know what to look for, like Crux Lomarr.

  • @satoruriolu6132
    @satoruriolu6132 Рік тому +2

    I believe the Coronach-22 at 12:47 is a mix between the XM8 chasis design with that ridge at the front with the chonkiness of a F2000

  • @otbc1999
    @otbc1999 Рік тому +82

    Do every cod zombies wonder weapons. I'd love to see Jonathon's take on them 😁

    • @Iwilleaturbabieslad
      @Iwilleaturbabieslad Рік тому +2

      Definitely should

    • @TheAHuman
      @TheAHuman Рік тому +1

      Sadly that wouldn’t work, most of them are 115 and don’t even work like a gun.

    • @mr.randomperson9900
      @mr.randomperson9900 Рік тому +18

      @@TheAHuman he literally did a video on Splatoon. I don’t think wonder weapons are gonna be to hard.

    • @titan1umtitan
      @titan1umtitan Рік тому +3

      @@TheAHuman He's reviewed guns that don't even function similarly to guns. Omolon's fire liquid, quicksilver does the same. Cloudstrike (which he reviewed in a previous video) is just a magic stick.

  • @thomasb1521
    @thomasb1521 Рік тому +3

    Hold on, is he sitting in front of a WALL OF EM-2'S
    That's a flex

  • @justinmcwilliams6759
    @justinmcwilliams6759 Рік тому +1

    When I was in the Navy in '99 - '04, we used what looked like an M79 but had polymer furniture and used elevation ladder sights mounted further back on the weapon. It was a single shot break open weapon and sadly since it's been 19 years since i left active duty, I cannot remember the model or manufacturer. Still had the same sound that gave the M79 the nickname "Blooper". (It's sound is something like THOOMP..........*BOOM*)

  • @PMMeCuteBugPhotos
    @PMMeCuteBugPhotos Рік тому +1

    I actually read an article that raises a very interesting point about how revolvers might in fact be the best gun for peacekeeping in space. Particulary a silenced revolver with a gas sealing system like nagants.
    No automatic ejection and being able to be operated with one hand are of major importance as the last thing you want in space is spent casings flying around the cabin, while you also need a free hand to brace yourself in a lack of gravity. Add in on top of that that a space gun would need a very high degree of heat tolerance and such, and the very simple mechanism of a revolver makes it a very attractive choice.
    Just make sure to pack subsonic rounds if you plan to shoot inside.

  • @gamerprodigy107
    @gamerprodigy107 Рік тому +4

    Please do more of this. Destiny 2 has SOO many unique guns.

  • @wh8787
    @wh8787 Рік тому +10

    The Russians developed some bouncing fragmentation grenades I believe for the GP-25/30 launchers, I think so they can be launched into windows and then bounce into rooms before detonating. I have no idea how useful this actually is.

  • @mitcheldenhartog1886
    @mitcheldenhartog1886 Рік тому +6

    Big fan of the Destiny gun reviews and reacts.
    Really would love to see another video reacting to the Exotic guns again

  • @knite_lite
    @knite_lite Рік тому +1

    You know what's crazy, just this dude who understands firearms commenting on guns from a video game and it makes good content. He doesn't shut down the idea of the unorthodox guns but rather kinda let's it play out and he explores it a little bit which I think is pretty awesome.

  • @LightCrib2
    @LightCrib2 Рік тому +1

    Him looking at the Servant Leader scout rifle would be torture for him

  • @ChipClipGotGrip
    @ChipClipGotGrip Рік тому +6

    Always love seeing destiny coverage from Jonathan

  • @stuffandthings617
    @stuffandthings617 Рік тому +1

    About the grenade launcher. As most of those smaller grenade launchers (like the roaring lion which was in another video) those bouncing Grenades have some kind of trigger, when they are shot and the trigger is hold they don't explode for some time but as soon as you let go of the trigger the grenade explodes. Also the reload only starts after the grenade exploded. If you shoot and let the trigger go instandly it only flies a set amount of time until it explodes.

  • @xGamermonkeyx
    @xGamermonkeyx Рік тому +2

    I'm still on the Killzone train, I'd desperately love to see Johnathan react to the weapons in that series. Oh and you guys gotta check out Hotdogs, Horseshoes and Hand Grenades again, there's so many new weapons and there has just been a huge overhaul of the AR15 series of rifles in the game!

  • @stein_the_lynx3284
    @stein_the_lynx3284 Рік тому

    i noticed something recently with hand cannons in destiny while playing with a friends where if you have a sword out and position your camera just right while your friend has a hand cannon out you can clip the camera inside the chamber of the hand cannon and see that the big cylinders that you put into the hand cannon are just funky speed loaders that have individual rounds inside of the larger shell

  • @illusiveelk2558
    @illusiveelk2558 Рік тому +1

    The hand cannons in destiny do actually have rotating Chambers. There's supposed to rotate with the trigger pull, but pulling the trigger too fast results in them appearing not to rotate.

  • @WorldBridger70
    @WorldBridger70 Рік тому +3

    The Coronach-22 at 12:47 reminds me of the Pulse Rifle from Aliens but rounded and slim mixed with something I can't remember -- some video game assault rifle that had a very smooth curve to the carry handle sight.

  • @swanky2202
    @swanky2202 Рік тому +11

    Would like to have him do another dive into KF2 guns, but this time the more realistic stuff. And also showing stuff like different reload animations for different classes and perk choices / slow mo animations.

  • @Mark___Zuckerberg
    @Mark___Zuckerberg Рік тому

    I think it’s worth pointing out that for the trust handcannon the cylinder and hammer does move, and you can see it happening when playing on a controller. Since the trigger on the controller allows for a half pull you can see it in action, where as on a PC you won’t be able to see it because it’s a single button. This also happens with every other hand cannon in the game.

  • @bigpeeneugene7739
    @bigpeeneugene7739 Рік тому

    7:28 Regarding the Battle Scar pulse rifle, I believe the front end is almost directly lifted from the TKB-408, designed by German Korobov. It was actually entered into the same trials as the original AK-47, which the TKB (obviously) lost to.

  • @QuintonMurdock
    @QuintonMurdock Рік тому +1

    YEEEES NAMELESS MIDNIGHT. I was there from the start and I was there when this was THE gun. Oh that sound. It’s been so many years..

  • @elizabethrdaniels
    @elizabethrdaniels Рік тому

    When Jonathon mentions (11:49) the Trust Hand Cannon's cylinder not actually revolving - this was I'm assuming capture on PC? If you lightly hold in an analogue trigger you'll see the cylinder slowly turn and the hammer pull back.

  • @logruszed
    @logruszed Рік тому +1

    Jon: You've talked about the future of aiming devices moving to a more holographic reticle or integrated with HUD systems. But do you think the future also loses "charging handles" as we see them now? Evolving into some system where not only is ammunition caseless but magazines are so waste free as to be not worth recovering and "self" loading or self charging?

  • @The_Ragequit_Cannon
    @The_Ragequit_Cannon Рік тому

    So about cylinder rotation on Trust: all handcannons in Destiny 2 at least have a feature where if you slowly pull the trigger, you can see the hammer pulling back and the cylinder rotating. I guess most people wouldn't notice that in this game though with how much it can have going on at any time

  • @jamesgibbons1233
    @jamesgibbons1233 Рік тому

    Love this series of vids

  • @starrk7158
    @starrk7158 Рік тому

    Enjoyable watch, I look forward to more videos.

  • @quincypham2283
    @quincypham2283 Рік тому

    12:00 The cylinder does rotate, the animation can be scene when using a controller instead of a mouse. Try pulling the trigger SLOWLY on the controller and you can see not only the cylinder rotating, but also the hammer pulling slowly back as well. Heck, you can see the same action happen with most of the hand-cannons in the game so far.

  • @herny2991
    @herny2991 Рік тому +1

    Funny that, in looking for something that resembles the flash and thunder, he pulled out the spitting image of another weapon from Destiny called the Witherhoard :) 7:48

  • @t4nkychannel921
    @t4nkychannel921 Рік тому +5

    Might I ask Johnathan to review the guns from FEAR? I think the Penetrator and repeating cannon would be the most interesting for him to talk about. The Repeating Cannon is almost like a Neopup/Inkunzi PAW or a man-portable Mk 19. The Penatrator is simply hilarious in how it staples people to walls.

  • @trealville23
    @trealville23 Рік тому

    Love these videos so much. Keep it up gamespot

  • @Taintedmini
    @Taintedmini Рік тому +2

    The Coronach-22 @13:02 to me screams H&K XM8 in spaaaaace more than an F2000. With the swooping line of the XM8 top handle and general shape.

  • @ranboohusband2927
    @ranboohusband2927 Рік тому

    The cylinder of the trust hand canon does revolve but it can be hard to see, I know this because I actively play destiny 2 and run that weapon in my load out often

  • @hopintheroflcopter
    @hopintheroflcopter Рік тому +2

    I'm surprised he didn't pick up the XM8 design cues on the Coronach-22

  • @AE1OU
    @AE1OU Рік тому +3

    Jonathan, made a video on *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* weapons.
    So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone.
    There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video for the game.

  • @BearClawTN
    @BearClawTN Рік тому

    The Coronach reminds me of the Heckler & Koch XM8 proto type with a dash of the H&K XM25.

  • @Alcatrazrezz
    @Alcatrazrezz Рік тому +5

    The one you thought looked like an f2000 i got more xm8 vibes

  • @JB-nw1lc
    @JB-nw1lc Рік тому +2

    Metal Gear Solid 1, 2 and 3. There's alot of weapon detail in all 3. And I'd love to see Jonathan's take on Big Boss' M1911A1 gush.

  • @CruiserToneFan
    @CruiserToneFan Рік тому

    the break action grenade launcher has special grenades that are unique to almost all break-action grenade launchers in Destiny 2, and that is that the grenades are controlled by the user, so if you hold the trigger it will fire the grenade, but it wont explode unless it hits something, or if you have a launcher with proximity grenades, they wont explode until they get a certain distance away from an enemy

  • @CrazyIvan2X
    @CrazyIvan2X Рік тому +3

    13:28 I don't see F2000 but I do see a lot of XM8 in there

  • @Halosniper-zk5ro
    @Halosniper-zk5ro Рік тому +1

    When Jonathan mentioned he noticed f2000 in the suros rifle, I noticed a partial design of the XM8 rifle. Does anyone else see it?

  • @SaturnianDragon
    @SaturnianDragon Рік тому +2

    I'm kind of surprised Jonathan didn't catch the XM8 resemblance on the Coronach-22

  • @perfectedanarchy
    @perfectedanarchy Рік тому

    for nameless midnight, the release catch is right in front of the mag, and it seems like the user smacks it as they slide their hand down to grab another mag.

  • @inoob26
    @inoob26 Рік тому

    Someone get this man a good quality camera already, he deserves one

  • @dtps_champion6016
    @dtps_champion6016 Рік тому +7

    The host did a good job not being too snobby about what would really work. Nice episode. Do more destiny

    • @outbreakperfected5704
      @outbreakperfected5704 Рік тому +1

      Thank you someone else who got a little annoyed from the other times he did destiny and was snobbish when it isn’t meant to be realistic

  • @scyrra9908
    @scyrra9908 Рік тому +1

    Interesting fact about D2 handcannons: if you're playing on a controller with analog triggers if you pull the trigger back slowly you can see the hammer pull back before firing

  • @luke1119411
    @luke1119411 Рік тому

    12:50 I'm surprised that the XM8 wasn't mentioned. That's what I immediately thought of at least.

  • @legendofsirus1259
    @legendofsirus1259 11 місяців тому

    The front end of the coronach rifle reminds me of the xm8. First thing I noticed on it

  • @thuanducluu1371
    @thuanducluu1371 Рік тому

    13:10 I just realized this gun model was based on the H&K XM8 gun. Love the sci-fi design of the real world counter part

  • @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz
    @ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Рік тому +1

    On top of his title, I'm a bit jealous of all the rifles behind jonathan. He has a whole rack full of things I'll never get to touch, let alone own, just casually organized behind him.

  • @raistlinspringfield5577
    @raistlinspringfield5577 Рік тому +3

    First time seen Mr. Ferguson in the War Factory documentary, and I was totally fascinated by his explanations on guns. It's both surprising and impressive to see him comment on fantasy Destiny 2 guns!

  • @dredgenmoist1464
    @dredgenmoist1464 Рік тому

    For Trust (and all hand cannons) on console you can lightly press the trigger and see the hammer cocking back and the cylinder rotating, it's just not shown on MnK because it's much faster

  • @XtreemeX
    @XtreemeX Рік тому

    Ok I've been using the Quicksilver storm for a while now, now just noticed the ads radicle is not center lol

  • @deejaydragon8909
    @deejaydragon8909 Рік тому

    The Coronach-22 bares more than a passing resemblance to the H&K XM8. I'm surprised Jonathan didn't pick up on that!

  • @TAGSlays
    @TAGSlays Рік тому

    Excellent as always.

  • @LupinOfForossa
    @LupinOfForossa Рік тому

    about hand cannons, the hammer does actually move, you just need an actual trigger pull input, like on a controller. mouse clicks skip the double action feature and make them appear semi auto

  • @rickimaru915
    @rickimaru915 Рік тому

    I’d love to see Jonathan try to get his head around the wacky guns of Returnal

  • @stevemc6010
    @stevemc6010 Рік тому

    There's a bunch of wood and steel AK bullpup looking guns in Destiny, hope to see those more like the one in this video

  • @mop4232
    @mop4232 Рік тому

    Our boy sitting in front of a wall of em2's. This is literally Jonathan's happy place.

  • @bixandzak
    @bixandzak Рік тому

    I would love to see Jonathan's thoughts on the Khvostov 7G-02, Sturm & Drang, Forerunner, and the Western Front Monte Carlo.

  • @EloquentTroll
    @EloquentTroll Рік тому

    The Truthteller GL does have a collapsible stock, but it's hard to see from a lot of angles

  • @SonicDRJ
    @SonicDRJ Рік тому

    This may be very niche, but I’d love to see his reactions to the ST-W48 blaster from Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker (though Star Wars Battlefront II (by EA) may be a better place to get a look at it) as well as other Star Wars blasters like the SP-B50 blaster, F-11ABA, and E-11D blasters… they aren’t classic Star Wars weapons since they’re from newer media, so it would be interesting to see his opinion of them (assuming you can actually get the required footage since it’s kinda hard to find them if I’m being honest)

  • @daniscenko1678
    @daniscenko1678 Рік тому +1

    For the Cornach auto rifle I think the front is inspired by the H&K XM8 series of rifles not sure about the rest of the gun

  • @Dedtoo
    @Dedtoo Рік тому +7

    I feel like it'd almost be too little for him to go on, yet I'd love to see Jonathan's take on some of the stranger guns from Enter the Gungeon!

    • @GrimViridian
      @GrimViridian Рік тому

      Ah yes my favorite, the shotgun shell that shoots shotguns XD

  • @tomagee420
    @tomagee420 Рік тому

    The Omolon sidearm “laser” is actually a sports cam mod for Crucible TV

  • @TheWandererGhost
    @TheWandererGhost Рік тому +1

    i am still waiting for his rection to the Thorn and how the "bullets" are shaped like

  • @Robo_Banana
    @Robo_Banana Рік тому

    If I remember correctly, a lot of the hand cannon type weapons dont load bullets but instead load a battery or container of some kind full of glimmer. Glimmer is described in game as programmable matter used for fuel and bullets and currency and other things, so the non-spinning cyllinder likely isnt an issue from an in universe standpoint.
    Granted my destiny info is extremely dated back from the first game, not sure if things have changed since or if my memory is wrong.

    • @brawler5760
      @brawler5760 Рік тому

      The cylinder actually does move, and so does the hammer. However that can only be seen if you’re using a controller.

  • @everstray7482
    @everstray7482 Рік тому

    Surprised Jonathan didnt mention how when you reload the quicksilver, you can see the barrel of the gun form. I believe the quicksliver uses nano tech, and basically the nano machines form up and act like a fluid in the frame of the gun, and form the bullets, micro missiles, and grenades as you pull the trigger. Pretty crazy.

  • @kosetsuoshiimaru3908
    @kosetsuoshiimaru3908 Рік тому

    12:05 about cilinder not moving.
    It is just not noticeable when playing via keyboard and mouse, also as it could be with hammer movement. However if you are using consor controller like dualsence if you slowly pull the trigger of controller you will see and barell movement and hammer movement without shooting, as if you were pulling normal trigger. However im not sure if it is just that certain revolver isnt that much more "expressive" or is it just moving too fast

  • @Catzzye
    @Catzzye Рік тому

    Jonathan I saw you on Kunk on Earth!! You are amazing!!

  • @RedEquus
    @RedEquus Рік тому

    The placement of the bolt and casing eject has always bothered me too on battle scar and other pulse rifles in this game

  • @benbutz4900
    @benbutz4900 Рік тому +1

    the cylinder on the cannon does rotate brother, just gotta pull it nice and slow to see. trust.