Student Pilot - Windy Pattern Work - Piper Cherokee 140
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Here's a quick POV video of some pattern work/touch and goes on Thanksgiving. Tried to take advantage of a break in the weather to get some more landing practice in before the next cross country... I definitely need it.
Nice work. Just a little tip..I always do 1700 or 1800 rpm when abeam in a PA28-140. 2nd notch or 3rd on the flaps on final if needed. Always prefer a little too much altitude when turning final and adjust than not enough. Especially when low and slow. If you get carb ice, the engine quits (due to low rpm) and you have to glide it in, you will understand the benefits of this approach.
Yes Thomas. Great to see how others fly. Personally I like a steeper approach, knowing that I’ll still get there if the engine fails. Must say that these shallow finals would make me feel uncomfortable. Well done. Blue Skies. Chris, Sydney, Australia.
Yeh for sure you can side slip to ditch some height on late final
Agreed, too low on final. If it gets quite out front I'd still want to make the runway. Unlees you're practicing short field landings, I'd aim a bit further down the runway as well. If the engine is stumbling on carb heat with a load of ice on short final you'll wish you had more of everything.
Another fellow Thomas Cook.
In my Cherokee140 I keep 1900 when abeam. Mine likes to sink fast after 2nd notch of flaps
Good enough! The phrase every pilot will use at least once during their piloting lifetime...😂
REALLY like the way you verbalize your thought processes. Very instructional.
Brings back a lot of good memories. I got my license in a 140 back in the late 70's. Surprisingly, I remember all the numbers. Had a great instructor who drilled them into me.
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After a 43 year hiatus, I just went on my first flight to the journey of FINALLY get my private pilot certificate. Thx for sharing this video. 🙂👍🏻
I love watching these pilots with all their fancy electronics. They spend thousands of dollars on avionics to do the same thing that my 5 dollar pilot slide rule cost.
Nice video. When you said power to 2000 I was getting ready to close my eyes. Then you said full power.
Yeah that worried me also lol
I do same in my 140. Power to 2,000, check engine gauges, full power. Fun!
The PA28 is a very predticable aircraft when it comes to landing style.The PA28 if trimmed correctly on approach will fly right into the landing flare stage.The beauty about the PA28 is it has tremendous elevator power which allows full control in pitch in the landing flare. This means the mains go on very strongl;y and stay there. Then all one has to do is lower the nose down onto the nose wheel and then onto the tarmack when you then have front nose wheel steering. The air rudder is the best for landing the PA28, no nose wheel steering si needed.
Working on that. Yes, it does seem like you fly it to the runway a few feet above and then flare. I need to make sure my airspeed is low enough before I flare or I will balloon. I have to patient to let the air speed bleed off. Something that I am working on.
Great job. Very methodical and professional.
That air traffic controller sounds like a ball of fun 😂
We have way worse one here at John Wayne Airport.
Greasing it in tends to be desired popularly in aviation but a firm landing does help dissipate forward energy, I swear every Southwest pilot is a master of this 😂🤣
I like your videos, especially the way you talk through the procedures in detail, good job
Excellent video. Great for those of us just getting started.
It helps to wiggle rudder back and forth on final to remind yourself to relax and work rudder.
Take a drink every time he says alright
SUPER CLEAN PANEL. NICE WORK! THANKS FOR SHARING.
Love how far you've come in such a short time. Super proud of you! You're gonna be a better pilot than me. Well done 😊
Nice work! Couple things I was wondering about, the airport I learned out of has nothing but trees around it and I was taught to stay close enough to the runway so that in the event of and engine failure you could make it to the runway. My instructor drove this home by pulling the power on me when we were too far out and said to make it back or find a field. As I had said, no fields to use. We made it maybe halfway back and could not have been more than 100ft AGL when he gave me power back. Scared the hell out of me and was all I needed to keep that pattern tight. While it's hard to tell, you look VERY far from the runway here and also very low on final, but again, it could just be the video. Fly safe!
Keep these videos coming! I'm learning in a Piper Cherokee. It's a super fun lil plane!
Great video, great flying, something to think about though, you nicely briefed on what to do if the engine quits after take off and below 1000 feet etc but I noticed shortly after take off you pitched for 90, then cruise climb under 1000 feet, the idea here is to get some altitude, maybe best angle or at least best rate of climb to 1000 feet so if the engine did give you trouble you would at least have some altitude to work with, but thats just my opinion. Cherokee owner for 40 years.
I think IN THIS AD turn 90 shrotly after take off (with 500ft at least) is not a bad idea. Note in this case he turn left with 650 AGL, but he has a runway 90 deg of main runway, so this 650ft turn puts him automatically in downwind of another runway. So, IN THIS CASE, if the engine fails he has 600ft +20MPH to glide a short downdind, base and final of 31 (or so) rwy. So i think is nor a bad idea turn left. BUT i think this must be parte of a briefing, its very important load this in uor short therm memory just before take of.
@@germanbleuer3791 yes, it should work out ok if he had an engine problem.
Fun video. Your plane is around 700 newer than mine … I keep the visors in the safe with the logbooks. LOL. I’m about set to mod with Hoerner tips, gap seals, wing smoothing , VGs and a powerflow exhaust. As soon as my shoulder heals I’ll let you know what difference it all makes :-)
I flew, learned to fly in 1969-1970, in the 140……My question is, why the tablet ? Sure more info and recording, however more to do, in the cabin. Tell me where I am off…..an array of instruments in the plane, and we need more ?….plastic bound checklists worked fine.
I too got my ticket in 1970. I have to agree….use a plastic check list and focus on flying the aircraft. There is plenty of time for the iPad later. “Back in the day” it was pilotage, & VOR (maybe). GPS is a Godsend. Love the 140, 180 and especially the Cherokee 235.
I like the head camera perspective. Doing a 3D version would be awesome.
Cool video I want more of these
Good video. I kept reaching up to move the visor out of my way though. I always use a little more ground effect holding the nose up , just a little more speed and grease it on the mains every time .
Easier said than done. I do not always grease my landings. They tend to be a little flat.
Hi Tsyklon, just wanted to tell you that I’m enjoying your videos a lot! You are doing exactly as I’m planning to (purchase your own plane for training). I, like you have many hobbies one is flying RC planes (which I started about 22 years ago). I’ve always wanted to start my PPL training but you know how it is... life gets in the way, 2 kids, etc... I’ve been learning as much as I can on the ground (reading flight training books, a lot of flight simulation with home built cockpit, pilot edge and ForeFlight, etc). I feel I’m ready to start my PPL now but I’m in a expat assignment in England with my family. As soon as we get back to US I’m committed to start my PPL. Could you share your experience/decision to purchase your own plane for training/build hours? By the way the Cherokee PA-28 is one of my preferred one. But I will decide after taking a discovery flight. Keep up the great work in your videos! Regards, Eloy
Excellent teaching video. Very informative. Thank you,
Lucky you. I get to fly in Density altitudes of 6500 MSL as my airport is around 4100 MSL. I seem to get a 2000 feet Density altitude penalty most of the time.
Hey, thanks for verbalizing every step, this is tremendously helpful! I noticed you've only made a handful of videos and nothing has been uploaded for 9 months. I sure hope you're okay!
This is a good video. Fun to watch, thanks!
I used to talk to myself like this, but I got a lot less scared of the airplane after taking some tail wheel lessons and learning to be lighter on the controls and make more aggressive turns not worrying so much about stalling.
Hey jtleejr, can you elaborate more, I'm pre solo and really trying to work on my landings. Thanks!
GREAT VIDEO ! Please let us know where you were located in this video? Please provide more videos as I learned to fly in a Piper Cherokee 140 in Ohio
I also fly a ‘67 140 in Ohio
He was at KEWN (New Bern, NC)
What Garmen do you have. Love how that connects to your Foreflight. How does that work. Can you load a flight plan up into the Garmen.
after your flare and landing, initiating your take off power again, you didn't call out retracting your flaps????? based on you calling everything out, I didn't hear you call out bringing your flaps up for take off. Also I was taught to pull your power at the threshold, you kept saying pull power pull power, when that should have already been done once you made the numbers. raising your nose just a bit would bleed off your remaining airspeed so you could sink to the runway. Based on you calling everything out, your in the pattern mid field with full flaps already! otherwise great video!! I love the 140 that's what I learned to fly in. I also called everything out loud during my solo time.
Shorter runway s you will be in trouble, try 600 AGL on turn for final, over the numbers at 65 and only two notches of flaps and high over the numbers with stepper angle into a flair .. for greasers only ..800 landings in pa-28 160 ..
It sounds like he's using MPH not knots. I always use full flaps in the pa28-180 I fly for normal conditions. At half load 70mph feels right with full flaps.
Thanks for the video. Nice work.
Hi I am also a pilot of PA28 140. I would like to ask how your iPad is fixed to the yoke? Where can I buy the retainer? This question has puzzled me for a long time. I often need to use foreflight to see where I am. But when I look down to find my phone, the heading and altitude are always change.
I would to know also.
I need to look at Foreflight to see all of the traffic, As I fly in the most congested area in the world. The LA basin in Calif.
Hi Tsyklon. Awesome video and thank you greatly for posting! The step-by-step is perfect for my own understanding as I'm getting ready to take lessons on this aircraft. I have been simming this flight with a PA28-140 in X-Plane at EWN, flying the exact same runway 22 traffic pattern. As I go into real-world lessons, I'd like to connect up a Go-Pro in the same configuration as you did for this video so I can study each of my lessons when I'm not behind the physical stick. Can you advise how to do this (camera type, mounting equipment, and audio connectivity)?
Nice video, but that last landing I think you were low 100-200 before the numbers. I'd prefer a little more altitude to assure short final.
Did you get your private?
Impressive airmenship!
Awesome!
I thought I had read that the Cherokee didn't use a push-pull throttle.
You can come in a little high and fast and hit full flaps and drop her in
I am flying this plane for my training!!
idk about writing down info on an ipad, seems more difficult than paper
Leave power in on flare. It’s not a Cessna.
65 will be fine for rotating
Fellow 140 pilot - what GPS in your panel ?
"undercarriage is fixed" "seat belts fastened" -when you introduce so much "patter" to a student in a rushed manner with items that are totally superfluous, I don't think it helps the student and may even set back the student who is that much slower. In aviation, I learned a long time ago better to slow it down. Even flying large passenger aircraft, you hardly ever need to rush even an engine failure.
Very nice. Liked and subscribed. I’m looking into get my PPL as well here in Maryland. What app did you use to log hours and pre flight checklist? And how do you like low wing versus high wing?
Every single video it’s the same problem over and over again. when they doing things you cannot see it ,all you see it’s a front of the plane .you need to see the buttons that you need to push ,you need to see what your switch and how the monitor is changing with it and what’s the right range. Can’t see anything.
Tsyklon,
Is the radio your using a 375? and what program are you using for your scratch pad on your ipad for the ATIS info? Thanks.
Scratch pad looks like ForeFlight
Bit wide
Stop putting your GoPro on your head makes it very difficult if not impossible to watch your video