GERMANY'S ORIGINAL HIGHSPEED TRAIN / BASEL TO BERLIN DB ICE 1 FIRST CLASS REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Hello and welcome back to Switzerland for another trip report, this time on an International trip up to Germany's capital, Berlin.
Today we will be riding in First Class onboard an iconic ICE 1 set, the first German highspeed train. These great trains really became one of the benchmarks for fast and comfortable travel in Europe and are still fantastic to this day. Enjoy the ride!
*PLEASE NOTE* At the time of filming all travel was permitted and has been carried out in full compliance with the local restrictions.
Date of Filming: 17/9/21
Camera: GoPro Hero 7 Black
Operator: DB
Departure: Basel, Switzerland
Arrival: Berlin, Germany
Cost: €43.90 First Class
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I love how Germany is keeping their first flagship High Speed trains. Thanks for the trip report!
You're welcome 😁
Well we don’t do it because we particularly like them, rather because of the still growing network. And why throw away a machine that still works? (Although I personally am not a big fan of them)
well the ICE 1 will be in service for at least 10 more ypears
@@Chrischi4598 Actually, we DO like them. ICE 1 is still the most comfortable of the entire fleet.
That *we* love them however does not mean that Deutsche Bahn also does...
I actually prefer the ICE 1/2/3 to the newer ones. The first versions feel much more spacious and that’s a luxury.
The seats in the first class are in my opinion slippery and a tad uncomfortable. And I can never overlook the soiled carpets in DB trains. The SBB manages to keep it clean all the time.
I agree 👍🏻
I'm wondering why the DB is using Leather seats for their first class since seats with fabric are better for business suits.
18:58 actually in Frankfurt they typically change staff, otherwise they wouldn't make it in 5 minutes if the driver had to fight their way to the other end against hundreds of exiting passengers
Fair enough 😁
Yeah that's the case everytime the other driver takes the next train back to Basel.
FFM is crazy
Those older ICE Trains are clearly more comfortable and spacious than the newest ICE 4 both in 1. and 2. class. They even have at least a few compartements left which was standard in former long distance trains.
Completely agree 😁
ICE 3 is still a comfortable experience. 4 is a different story.
@@TheEpicAppleEater01 Yes, I agree.
@@TheEpicAppleEater01 only if you catch an ICE 3 with old seats. For me the best is the ICE T, cause it has the biggest space between the seats
Idk what you're talking about, guys. ICE 373 from Interlaken to Berlin Ostbahnhof (ICE 4) has exactly the same equipment as the ICE 1,2 & 3. I always drive from Berlin to Offenburg or Freiburg home, which takes about 7 hours. I've never had any problems. wtf
I have really learned to appreciate the ICE 1 for the compartments, for me it just feels so much more comfortable to sit in a small room like that, instead of a large compartment.
Completely agree!!!
Great video! For me, ICE1 is the best of the ICE family! I like the dining car and also train configuration. I hope they will keep in service in the next year. My last ICE1 journey was without ICE1, because it was replaced at the last minute by the ICE4 train :-/
Oh god Pete what a nightmare 😂 hopefully next time 😍👍🏻
Before changing to ICE 4 in 2020, almost all of the ICE that serves Switzerland are mostly used ICE 1 set. I was able to try ICE 70 in July 2019 from Chur to Hannover on the first class and it's so comfortable
And the live video on Basel SBB is very useful, especially when I need to catch a tram
Yeah the 4s just haven't got the character have they 😂
The services between Basel and Amsterdam are always done with an ICE 3M due tot the requirement to deal with 1,5kv DC power in The Netherlands. But this is only 1 train a day each way on working days.
@@maartendekleine4905 Soon to be twice per day because of Nightjet services from Zürich
The ICE1 is still my favorite ICE. Having traveled it at university times A LOT i have a lot of nice memories to this trainset.
Completely agree 💯😊
I do hope that your first generation ICE 3 review includes traveling between Cologne and Frankfurt, as that is a very impressive piece of infrastructure with dozens of bridges and tunnels as well as very steep grades of 4%. If you manage to get a seat behind the driver you can look out of the front and it becomes a rollercoaster-like experience.
I have done that route before and also sat behind the driver on an ICET trip I made from Dresden 😊
@@NonstopEurotrip The ICE T doesn't go on the high speed line between Cologne and Frankfurt tho ^^
Great video as always and that train station looks majestic 0:38. Watched ICE1 trip report after very long time and sad to see that they are going to discontinue this trainset once ICE 4 is introduced throughout the German train network.
Thanks mate! It is sad they will be retiring soon, but they've had a good life! ICE 4 is good too though 👍🏻
No, as already mentioned in other comments, they will be refurbished in the next years and life for another 10 years.
@@axelbr403 But aren't the new seats going to be worse?
@@damcoentertainment3956 The seats will stay the same.
16:05 The ICE3 can speed up to 330km/h, the Velaro D Version is the one with 320km/h max Speed
Yep, I know 🙏🏻
These are still brilliant. I travelled on one from Freiburg to Zurich a couple of years ago. I have also been on the ICE3 and that's also marvellous. The ICE4 is a step backwards for me. Slower, less room, and it looks biblically stupid, to me.
Completely agree 😊
I've been on an ICE 1 from Switzerland to Germany (the train was going to Berlin), and the train got delayed, which meant that we nearly missed our transfer. However, I had a good experience.
That's for sharing your experience ☺️
I think the ICE 2 trains are the most comfortable, and the ICE 4 is the worst in terms of comfort. I went Mannheim to Berlin in one of those ICE 4 trains in 1st class and it was just SO uncomfortable. I'm glad I only paid 63 Euros for my ticket from Paris to Berlin (including a 2-way regional train transfer between Mannheim and Heidelberg - where I'd stayed overnight to go to the very special Tuesday night at the Miramar Weinheim waterpark).
The 2 is the only ICE I've not been on, yet!
@@NonstopEurotrip well you need to try them. The seating is slightly different than the others. I definitely wasn't unhappy with the comfort, and it was definitely superior to the ICE 3.
Not effizient, sometimes tickets are too expensive and over crowded, and often late!😤😎
Usually late 🤠
Incredible how this level of high speed travel on such a nice train, even if it is not the newest model, is so cheap! From just 29 Euros for such a long trip is a steal! As a UK resident I am a bit jealous. We would pay about three times that much for a journey of similar length on a much slower and less luxurious train.
Agreed, these are cracking trains. They can get expensive if you book last minute though 🙂
to put it in perspective:
If you book your tickets longer in advance (up to 6 months max.) you can get pretty cheap tickets, even in first class. But if you decide on the day or you have to take the train last minute it can get quite expensive. But I guess that relates to most means of fast transportation.
Just as an example I booked a train ticket for my summer vacation from Würzburg to Munich and back for 17€ each in first class, so 34€ in total. It should be a ride about 2,5 hours and that's nearly unbeatable for my personal taste.
Greetings from across the sea =)
wow berlin station has changed since i was last there (90's)
Just a bit 😂
Well, this Berlin Hbf didn't even exist in the 90s. It was built on the old grounds of the Lehrte Bahnhof and opened in 2006. What was called Berlin Hbf from 1987 to 1998 is now the Berlin Ostbahnhof. It was originally the main train station for East Berlin in the Communist era. If you noticed, this train actually went on to the Ostbahnhof, since there is no place to store out-of service trains at the Hbf.
I'm curious whether the train driver actually remembered to stop at Wolfsburg Hbf...
Yeah you never know 😁. Btw as the train was clearly still on the Hanover-Würzburg high-speed line, Hildesheim was conspicuously missing from the stop list...
Honestly don't know 😅
695 km is the air-line distance. The rail-distance is a lot higher. The normal full price is 232 €, but cheaper if you book in advance.(good luck on holydays).
Yeah not sure what happened there, rail mileage is 883km/549mi, thanks!
@@NonstopEurotrip That makes my calculation comparing with LNER a bit different but still, at 75 mph still a good bit slower than LNER. Much more comfortable than LNER though. LUMO have better seating I believe.
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Ah excellent 😊
I think if I was travelling for 7+ hours I would pay the extra for 1st class.
Love the interiors of the ICE trains, the wood panelling etc. Also love the currywurst too, especially eating it whilst watching the scenary outside.
Exactly my thoughts 💬🤗
First class in at least the newer ICEs is not worth it, the seats are just as crappy unfortunately...
Please come in asia,,and review china & Japan bullet train,,then compare with tgv,,ice,Frecciarossa .I want know witch is best bullet train,,, euro or asian .
I will try!!
The unrealistic part of this trip was that the train departed on time😭
And nearly arrived on time lol
7 hours for 700 kilometers isn't really high speed for me. Sucks that we don't have an actual high speed network.
It's those pesky stops 😂
You don't know how fortunate you are. The US has nothing like this! But. we have hope that President Biden's infrastructure bills will pass and many of these things will be possible like high speed rail!
They are excellent trains 😊
Oh look! This wild peole have a railway statyon. What a wonderful surprise!!!
Yes yes 😁😁😁
Those older Ice Trains are clearly more comfortable and spacious than the newest Ice 4 both in are you nice grees only Best to you for forget nice videos brava
I agree 👍🏻😊
Flying over the hills and valleys on the large viaducts between Würzburg and Hannover is gorgeous! Thank you for portraying this iconic train on its parade route!
Glad you liked the video 👍🏻😁
As a kid i worked in the tech industry in Germany, 1995? Düsseldorf - Amsterdam, my home town.
Loved the service, great upscale level food, can't remember what it was back when this service was fancy. They did this so fast, able to commute there.
I enjoyed revisiting the ICE-1 trip from Basel to Berlin which was many years ago when I lived in Germany.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
They probably just don't have catering services in Switzerland, and Karlsruhe was the first stop on the line where the train could actually get replenished. It might even be an agreement with the Swiss railways so that people are encouraged to spend their money on breakfast before leaving while still in Switzerland.
yeah they dont have a storage maybe in switzerland and get restocked in germany only or it was too early?
@@SternenruferinPatchouli1 probably they don't have storage here. The morning Railjet out of Budapest often gets stocked in Vienna.
I was thinking this but they made it sound like it was an unusual occurrence. Anyway never mind! 👍🏻
They restock in Basel Bad BHF normaly
Basel Badischer Bahnhof belongs to the German Railways, despite being in Switzerland so I doubt there is such an agreement.
Fantastic video. 8 euros for that lol. Anyways I love the ICE1 and I look forward to using them after the current refurbishment programme
Absolutely mate 😄
Nice video can you ride ice 2 train in Germany 🇩🇪 👍
It's the only ICE I haven't been on!
I have only travelled on the ICE1 so can’t comment on more modern versions, so cannot compare but given the general trend is now on lighter more fuel efficient trains I can see how the older trains are sturdier more comfortable and ride better also the seats tend to be better padded and certainly more comfortable.
In a crash, is definitely better to be on the new one tho!
Very nice.
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If this train can travel well over 200km/h, then I'm confused about the reason that it takes seven hours to complete the 700km journey! It averages to 100km/h which is not all that high speed for a high speed train. Perhaps, because this is not an express train and it takes plenty of time with the stops in between? And it doesn't hit those high speeds because there is no need with this particular run? Price is really good.
Yes the express part of the ICE names is very much subjective lol. Also I made a slight mistake, 695km is the straight line distance, 883km is the 'rail mileage' 🙏🏻
@@NonstopEurotrip OK, that average to 130km/h. Not bad I guess, considering it apparently plenty of stops in between and those few minutes at each stop can add to a couple of hours easily.
The distance from basel to Berlin via Frankfurt Braunschweig is 906 km
@@wkaemena Yes, it comes to around 130km/h average speed. I guess that is good when we consider the train has to stop in between. If there are 20 stops in between and each stop takes 6 minutes, then it comes to 2 hours. Obviously the train does hit high speeds well over 250km/h during the journey, but have to slow down for each stop, curves, etc.
@@ddandrews6472 on many runs the ICE doesn't serve the shortest route. Thus e.g. I remember going from Hamburg Central to Regensburg Central few years ago; I was ready a few hours earlier and simply hopped onto the next ICE heading south, but although it left an hour earlier than the ICE I originally planned to take, it would have arrived more than an hour later for going throughout the entire Ruhr metro area instead of going the shorter and quicker route further east.
As you pointed out the number of stops in between play quite a role as well. Also depends on if the train runs on seperate high speed tracks or mixed service tracks; If they're unlucky to have a slower category train ahead which they might not be able to overtake it will go the same speed for quite a while
You wrote that you did not need a seat reservation but you should book it. But if I start the trip from start point noone would take my seat right? Or someone who bought a seat reservation may seat there?
Yes. If you don't reserve a seat and it's fully booked, you'll be standing if there are no free seats
@@NonstopEurotrip have you ever thought about taking all these tips in one video or one text?
@@grzegorzgrzegorz5588 one day, maybe!
A very classy looking trainset compared to Amtrak in the USA..
it's a pity they disappear ...
Not just yet 😃
Great video as always! I loved the screen in Basel showing the buses and trams. I've never seen anything like it before. Yet, it seems so obviously helpful to people arriving.
Exactly! Completely agree 💯😊
Was thinking how good those 1st class compartments would be for a seven hour poker tournament!
As long as it's Texas hold'em 😃👍🏻
I did the Munich to Berlin route a few weeks ago in first class and have to say I was very impressed.
Excellent! 👍🏻
Just brilliant trip report!! It's getting better all the time I think! Looking forward to your new hour trip report on Tuesday very much!! Thank you for your time and effort and please do care of yourself please, since your work will be doubled!! Big fan from Tokyo!!
Thank you very much! I'd love to come to Tokyo next year 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻
6:56 : Wrong. It is not Faux Leather....
#TrainWindowViews
🥰🥰🥰
Loved the look of the first class seemed like a bargain 👍👍🇦🇺
Absolutely is 😁
As a person who is 189 and built like a stick I must say that the 1st class seats are one of the best seats i've had aboard a train (mostly travel 2nd class) but the headrest turned into a shoulder rest which meant I finished the 4H ride with upper backpain and the padding on the seat was limited, it wasn't comming back from amsterdam pride bad but it also wasn't ice 3 neo good.
Overall if a ice 3 neo is 10/10 and a lner 801 2nd class is 0/10 this train is a 8/10!
Agreed!!
Hope DB would keep this ICE -1 fleet running more years..
Another 10 years I believe 😀
For a 5 hour trip I would consider 1 st class with its amenities essential ( I have a four level fusion in my lumbar spine). Looks like a fun trip. I was impressed with the cleanliness and everything being fully stocked.To show how advanced some countries are in China we travelled Shanghai to Huibai in 4 hours which is just over 1200 kms. Fantastic. I believe the Japanese are faster but I haven’t travelled on one.
They are impressive trains, when they're on time! Very comfortable though. I would love to go to China very soon !
Germany has some faster routes - for example the newly improved Munich-Berlin relation. Stuttgart-Cologne in 2h is also a good deal for over 350km. Nowhere near 1200km of course. Germanys geography and population density makes faster trains not very economically feasible. The first IC-Experimental went well over 400KpH back in the day in testing, though, so its not a lack of technical ability 😁
Very quick and good ⚡👍
Not bad is it 💪
For €8 no
Fair enough 😝
Hello, i am a big fan even though i just subscribed. May i know what software do you use for editing? Thank you! Great video 😁
I use HitFilm 👍🏻
@@NonstopEurotrip thank you so much! 😉
I am just 16 years old, so I usually choose second class because of price Matters. I've already booked my next trip from Regensburg to Mainz and back, which is 4h drive one way, also with the ICE1 in Second class. I have booked one month before, so it has an one Way Price of 13,40€, which is a really good price i think
Fair enough 😁
Thanks to this video, I paused in the middle to spend an extra €10 on seats for my upcoming trip from Frankfurt Flughafen to Freiburg im Breisgau haha.
Not sure if I’m on the ICE 1 or another model, but I am annoyed that the DB website didn’t show the direction of travel for the seat selection. I’d hate to end up riding backwards.
Enjoy your trip!
Never ever enter a German train without your own food and beverages
I have done many times, if only for the currywurst 😄
16:06, just fyi, the ICE 4 is DB's flagship train, not the ICE 3
Actually it's now the ICE3 DB408
Unfortunately the seats were "upgraded" to newer ones, so it's nit the original experience. The original seats were far more comfortable. Engineering may have improved but ergonomically design has been going backwards for decades. Making big comfy train seats as in the past seems a lost art in Germany.
And many places, unfortunately!
One second camera in the cabine from the train was be better,just a tip. i have the Hero 6 gopro Black. thanks for the nice video.greetz:Peer.
Thanks 👍🏻
Very enjoyable video. I think I would pay the extra for the 1st class ticket.
Absolutely Paul 😄
2nd class is still very comfortable. I think 1st class on ICE is very much worth it if the difference isn't too big on the ticket selection (
Great review Max!! Love the faux leather sears and wood finishes....very club like and relaxing. Curious why first class pays for food? First class in the US usually includes food.
😀😀😀♥️
Thanks Scott! All First Class long-distance services here used to include food, but now it seems only the UK, and Spain remain (some Italian too!) 👍🏻
@@NonstopEurotrip Thanks Max. Perhaps one day food will be included in first class fares. I remember an overnight train journey here in the US that I took back in the late 50's that included meals(I was in first class in a roomette).
First Class is a lot cheaper here. For example, a First Class Ticket on a 1h trip that would cost up to $300 in the US, might cost $20-$90 in Germany. DB loses millions of Euros every year with the payed Restaurants, and a free meal service on such low prices (in comparison to the US) is not profitable in any way.
@@mstrmren Thanks for sharing.
I've had currywurst before 8am. Can confirm it's just fine at any time.
Ah excellent, thanks 😂😂😂
The poor timekeeping of ICEs is somewhat exaggerated in my opinion. At least this one was on time! Numerous errors in this video, but enjoyed it nevertheless.
It is definitely not exaggerated. I frequently see ICEs run 2, 3, 4+ hours late
Which is better,car or train for this journey, I've been on both but 30 years ago? But I've only tried the train recently.
100% train!!
How many restaurant cars exist in an ICE1 Train? Which car(s) is usually the restaurant?
Yes, they all have one in-between first and second classes
You only have 4 dutch videos.. 😔
I only have 1 swedish 😂
Thanks for the nice video.greetz:Peer. stay save.
Thank you 🙏🏻
I would go first class if I could, it seems seem less expensive.
It's great value!
Is it possible to book that private cab for yourself only 9:06 ?
Yes, if you buy all 4 seats 😂
12:45 Meint ihr, er hat die Frau dann wirklich angerufen? 😂
me contrey 2 class is populer and ice a lot of pleple going 2 class
Indeed yes!
I'm a tram and I approve this video!! :D
Thanks Mr.Tram! 🚃
Is it possible to sleep on this trip if maybe you bring a pillow?
Absolutely yes 😁
Despite the delay of 10 min in Frankfurt the arrival in Berlin was bang on time
Absolutely 🤗
Aproaching and leaving ICEs to and from Frankfurt main station often collect delays because in this massive junction infrastructure is so overloaded that trains often have to wait until they can join the station and leave again. 10 minutes delay is a standard there.
Traveling to Germany and his upcoming spring. I’d like to do two routes on the ICE, their longest route along with their fastest route. Do you know which two I could take?
This is the longest and the ICE3 from Frankfurt to Paris is the fastest at 320kmh (but only in France)
@@NonstopEurotrip wouldnt the ICE 73 from Kiel to Zurich with 8:48h be longer?
they have clean the train better,i see garbidge under the chairs.
I know 😂
Ice 1 is my favourite train
Not a class 390 😆
Which site did you book your ticket ?
Bahn.de
Mach mal Denekark
Bcs Frankfurt in such a big hub u get mostly delays like the 10 min in this area. But iam impressed for a ~800km long journey to be on time. I mean iam still okay with 10min delay after such a long distance. Even at some routes the train takes just the half time than the car and its funny if people complain the 20min delay. You can drive with ur car 3h more if u want XD
I was very impressed overall 😌
Grüezi and thank you very much for your great and relaxingly balanced video. Us Germans are very quick to point out all the bad experiences that DB brings to their passengers. We take some things for granted though that are not basic, like smooth travel at 300 km/h and comfortable seating. A positive review of a long distance DB ICE trip is a welcome change! :) It made me subscribe to your channel.
The cost for a sandwich and coffee is a bit steep in my opinion.
My pleasure! I love Germany and the railways, and all things considered, it actually works really well 🙏🏻
Great video !!
Thank you Theo 😁
One of my best friends moved to Berlin a couple of years ago. I usually take this exact ICE line from Karlsruhe to Berlin when I visit him. With a little planning you can get decent prices for first class and enjoy the ride even more. Haven't visited him since they started running ICE4s on this line. Pandemic and stuff... :)
Can't wait for the ICE 3 Video. Will you review Class 403/6 separately to Class 407? The missing lounge behind the driver in 407 is a real shame btw.
I've done both before, but in older videos. I Have a new 406 video coming later this year 😎🇩🇪
Nice trip. ICE ICE Baby...Worth the upgrade to 1st Class?
I think so, yes 😍
Great video, thank you, I just came off a 30 day Eurail Pass 1st class, did a lot of ICE trains. I love them, no reservations fee and I could practically sit anywhere in first class. There is nothing like being served a nice cold draft beer enjoying an ICE ride. Love your channel and thank you again
That's a great thing about German and Swiss trains on interrail, no reservations needed! 😃
I miss the compartments of the new(er) ICE versions, If I have the chance I still pick a seat in a compartment rather than in open space. I never had a bad experience in them and enjoy the privacy and it is usually more quiet as well (in my experience at least). I understand that they take up a lot of space in the train and that the DB and everyone else makes more money with getting as much people as possible into the trains, but I still miss compartments. Maybe it's my age and me being an introvert, but I always liked the compartments. Be it on the old regional trains in Germany or later in the ICE 1 and later areas, I also prefered the original seats in the old models. Anyway times change, but as someone who grew up in a small town and used trains every day to get to work in the next bigger city and in a family without car, public transport was always used, I just miss the old compartment trains and old ICE design and layout.
I prefer the open compartments, unless travelling in a group ..
First high speed train was first class from Frankfurt to Zurich. We were in a separate compartment by ourselves. A wonderful experience.
Sounds amazing!! 😃
Is it possible that the photo you posted on Twitter was another train than this one? 🤔
There you had the ICE "Osnabrück", this one seems to be an unnamed one (judging by the power car's number)
Eagle eyes 👀😉 The one on the other platform was a better photo 😂
Been on ICE1 only once and by accident (an IC I was on has run someone over - still not sure accident or suicide - and was held up, and after evacuation, endless waiting and a trip to nearest station on a bunch of random emergency vehicles the teain they got as substitiution was an ICE 1. Despite the fat I was travelling 2nd class before, I went straight for the seat in a 1st class compartment. As some of my co-,passengers went for a local train instead of waiting for replacment, and the train I was originally on was much shorter,I got the whole compartment for myself. It was a short trip though, I was going from Cologne to Koblentz and the whole incident happend between half and two-thirds of the way.
Oh dear, not good!
🙂👍
The food in the dining car is always a bit more expensive, but I've never had a bad meal on the train. That was already very good in the days of the Deutsche Bundesbahn.
Eastern European dining cars are very well priced, and much better quality food 😊
Thank you, nonstop eurotrip! Your video is way too long for the little information there is. Otherwise, of course, second class is more than enough for us.
Thanks Louis 👍🏻
6:50 The seats are made of genuine leather. You can smell it when they are new, and they get little cracks when they get older.
Some animal rights groups are trying to convince DB to replace them and use faux leather.
That's not what I read online 🤷🏻♂️
nice video but I don't understand that the ICE takes so many hours! It should be much faster
The distance is actually 883km
Actually I checked it it is 906 km
without the stops if would be faster.
Great video mate!
Thanks a lot!
I hate Toilet Time…
Wrong channel 🤣
Very nice 👍 Train and wonderful journey ❣️
Thank you 😊
Fascinating. Great camera work. Thank you.
Thank you Tony 🙏🏻
Muy buen video, me gustan mucho los trenes, y tus videos contienen mucha información importante,
Saludos, desde Buenos Aires, Argentina
Que tanto, ¡me alegro de que lo haya disfrutado!