Wow?! Consumer Reports Says Don't Buy the 2023 Ford F-150
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- A recent article from Consumer Reports says do NOT buy the 2023 Ford F-150. Publisher Tim Esterdahl shares the news and tells you what you need to know before shopping for a 2023 Ford F-150.
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Nobody should be buying anything new anymore. If we stop, they will stop charging $60,000 for a base vehicle!
Very true 👍
Keeping my 06 f150 nothing wrong with it right now, but it'll make more sense to put a new engine in it than to buy a new truck
Fewer sales will just lead to diseconomies, which will raise prices even further. That's actually the problem now. Fewer buyers, less production, higher margins, higher prices. It's the Venezuela effect.
Wrong there are too many people buy it will not change also used cars are also continue to get more expensive
@@AkioWasRight The car market is still high. Calm down acting like you know everything. Ford ain't a premium brand they can't keep it up forever and will end up having to cut prices or go out of business. Simple as that.
Don't buy anything ... crash the market and trigger a price war.
A friend bought a new 21 F150 with the 5.0. He has been a lifelong Ford guy. The engine valvetrain had a catastrophic failure and it sat at the dealership for six months waiting for a new engine. He has had the truck back for some time now. He said he does not like the transmission and it sometimes clunks badly when shifting. It has been reprogrammed and still shifts badly.
I know the pickup market is very competitive and manufacturers are constantly making changes and improvements. I believe some of these constant changes result in reliability issues. The bottom line is new pickups are way too expensive and are experiencing declining reliability.
I wonder is the valvetrain issue is related to the cylinder deactivation system in the 5.0 Coyote now? Anyways, I feel sorry for your friend. I hope he gets taken care of soon enough. I would recommend he look at a Titan if he is considering a full size truck.
What was the nature of the valvetrain issue?
I was sorry I subscribed to Consumer Reports years ago, because a lot of the products they recommended to buy ended up being garbage in my opinion. Anything you buy these days you're taking a chance.
You are exactly right. I have seen over the years products they say were garbage but they were as good as anything else. CR has it's faults too.
I don’t doubt that increase in reliability concerns for the 5.0L with CD, that’s why I always drive in sport mode, may get lower MPGs, but way more fun and no CD, when you have an exhaust this is a must.
How much mpg you lose. I’m guessing you don’t care but just wondering
Maybe Ford didn't give Consumer Reports as much money as the other manufactures?
I currently own a 2010 F-150 XLT Crew Cab with the 4.6 V8 engine after my VW Passat R-Line got totaled last year. It was a one owner with 118k miles and conditions were great. Put a set of new Michelin LTX tires and got the alignment done a month after I bought it. For being a 13 year old truck, the ride quality still impresses me. Couple of my friends complimented me on the conditions and ride quality. One of my friends, who drives a 2021 Tundra TRD Pro he purchased new, met with me to have brunch, and he said I want to drive your truck. After we did a little loop around the area we went to eat, he said, this old truck rides better than my Tundra. And he was working at Toyota headquarters. I also owned, well, leased a 2015 Silverado 1500 LT Double Cab with the 5.3 V8 back then. Best truck ever. Never had any unexpected repairs. Just regular maintenance done until about 50K miles. I traded because I was way over the miles for lease. You want your vehicle, in this case truck, to work well, treat it nicely and don’t drive like a jackass. Any vehicle is susceptible to have issues or being a lemon. Do I wish my old 2010 F-150 had some features my Passat had, like the killer Fender Sound System and Sunroof, absolutely. But it is not making my truck less of vehicle for not having those features.
50,000 miles is nothing to judge a vehicle on. One finds out how good a vehicle one has at 150,000 miles. By then that GM will almost certainly need a new transmission and that 5.3 will be on its last leg. An F150 with the 5.0 is just getting broken in at that point.
Correction, 10 year lifespan. My 2014 ecoboost still drives like butter. 211k miles.
@@derekjp6043 And you did not have to replace the turbos yet? Good for you. Hopefully you can get many more miles.
@@herbb8547 Not yet. Though, selling her since my boss prefers we drive newer trucks. Still running well. She was driven mostly on the highway before me so... probably part of why she's gone so long
@derekjp6043 A new truck sometimes has more problems than the used one. I once traded in a Ford Ranger for a Chevy Silverado. I went from a very dependable vehicle to a complete nightmare. That Chevy was in the shop at least once a week for the next two months. It was brand new. But came off the production line as a piece of junk.
June 26, 2023, I bought a new 2023 Nissan Titan Pro 4X. The engine is a double overhead cam V8 without cylinder deactivation, without start/stop and it has plenty of power. The 9 speed transmission as I understand is a Mercedes design built in Japan and it works great. The truck is beautiful, comfortable, quiet, and powerful. It's such a pleasure to drive. My last 4 trucks were Fords but Nissan gave me a big discount off sticker and financed it at 0%. Can't beat it with a stick!!
This is what's happening when Marketing drives the show. Way too expensive now: Digital clusters (including all touch screens and fingertips knobs), too much gizmos, too much luxury, too much all over the place. Adding these price goes up. Bring back Previous clusters, bing back physical knobs, remove all unnecessary gizmos, and concentrate on build quality instead. A Single Cab 8ft bed v8 6spd auto F150 should cost less than 40k, not 60k+.
'23 Single Cab XL, 5.0 V8, 8ft bed, 10 speed auto, carpet and trailer tow package $39,795 on Ford's configurator now !!
I’ve got a 2023 F150 5.0 Lariat FX4 and ZERO issues! Shifts great and daily driver. I only use Amsoil Signature Series every 4-5k miles and absolutely LOVE it!
Doesn't change the rating lol. GL to you on your truck
For the past 37 years I’ve been buying brand new trucks every 3-4 years and aside of my LandCruisers this ford has been extremely reliable and very easy to add aftermarket updates like a lift and engine work with zero issues so I don’t need luck cause I bought a Ford. No disrespect but that’s the government talking and don’t think you like the government pushed mandates do you as they’re going after the automobile makers herd right now as Ford has been fighting against their mandates which is why you can still find a new V8 ford without cylinder deactivation or auto stop so how about looking up how out of the ten top most reliable vehicles Ford F150 5.0 was the most reliable vehicle many years in a row, the nine others were all Toyotas. There’s always a lemon in a bunch and unfortunately there are many more in every manufacturer. Just bought my wife a new Yukon Denali and that POS has been in the shop every month. So, I’d only speak with actual Ford F150 owners and not these government supported companies
@@txgreek3512 my 2015 f150 5.0 just got totaled. 120k miles. zero issues. absolutely loved it. no tranny flushes or anything. just regular oil changes. drove it all across America several times. good truck.
I have a '23 F150 XLT 5.0 that I bought in March, and I haven't had a single problem with it. They certainly benefit from different rear shocks (I installed Bilstein 5160's), but other than that, I don't have any complaints. I did purchase an 8 year/100,000 mile PremiumCare warranty through Granger Ford just in case any issues arise in the future.
4 months after purchase I would hope you haven't had issues. bwhahahahaha
Bought in March 2023. Reading this in November 2023. Your opinion isn't really worth reading. I have a 2020 F150 XLT that I bought brand new in Jan 2020. I drive a lot. Have over 227 000km on it - yes, that is no typo, over 227k. No problems with my 3.3L V6 Engine. No problems with my transmission, no problems with corrosion
My tundra is 10 years old and is very rust free. Toyota has done a good job of making a solid underbody frame platform.
I had a 2007 Sr5 and the bed (always covered with a Capt rusted thru on the floor just behind both wheel walls. Toyota replaced the entire bed. Thanks Toyota. So I bought a 2014 Limited. Loved it but guess what…same rust problem in the same two spots. This time Toyota refused to fix in any way. So I told em next truck will be aluminum. I bought a new 2022 XLT Ecoboost 3.5 v6 and so far so good. Time will tell.
Glad you have no rust issues. I must say I never had even one problem with Toyota driveline (5.7, tranny, transfer or diff’s) on either the 2007 or the 2014, and I pulled 24ft camper a bunch.
Had a 2022 and put 30k miles on it. Got my 2023 power boost in December of 2023. Truck runs and rides great. The rough transmission random issue in my 2022 is nonexistent as they did finally figure out what was happening to cause it.
Handling… my guess is they got a level kit truck which changes how they ride. My truck is smooth as can be. This is a complaint because Ford still uses a solid axle for trucks. Deal with it.
Being 70 years old and had subscriptions at two or three different times I have learned not to trust Consumer Reports. That goes for Motor Trend, Car and Driver and several other rags.
I've owned two F-150s with 3.5TT and they both were perfect trucks with perfect reliability. Maybe I was lucky.
If the truck was that good, you would have only bought just one and you would still have it today.
@@albertatundra Truth. Got to wonder how many miles he put on them. I need a truck that can go 250,000 miles trouble free. My 2010 is at 170,000, with the 5.4 V8 had a couple of minor problems.
@@albertatundra Maybe I should listen to you more often because you make good financial sense. Before the F-150s, I owned a new 95 Sierra, 00, 04, and 08 Silverado. I traveled for work and usually put ~200k miles before trading them in on a new model. In 2015 I decided to try an F-150. Why? Mainly because of the aluminum body and 10-speed, and I wanted to try an EcoBoost. I was sick and tired of lifter and transmission issues. In 2019 I traded my F-150 for a new Raptor, which blew me away by how good that truck was. This year I bought a Rivian and will try the EV thing for a year or so. Obviously, I could have saved a ton of money if I drove less and bought less. But what fun would that be? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@albertatundra 💯
@@albertatundra Perhaps he upgraded trim levels, perhaps the first was leased and he decided to get another and financed it instead and did better than refinancing the first leased one.
Can confirm all points. I had a 22 XLT and it started to have transmission issues. Also front A pillar would rattle.
Reliability is an issue with all brands, and now it's price gouging on top of it. Today's market is a hope to get one that will run, if not the manufacturer will be paying for a lot fixing. Nothing is built with quality anymore, after it's only designed for a 5 year life span.
In December, I believe, CR rated the Powerboost F-150 the worst truck you could buy. I don't live or die by CR ratings but I was seriously considering that truck as a tow vehicle. I'm picking up my new Sierra 1500 later today.
Wow, you do know that the GM twins have recently been trashed by CR right? Our ‘22 F150 Powerboost is a fantastic tow vehicle. We absolutely love it. Good luck with your Sierra. I wonder if you talked to actual PB owners as well? I’ve owned lots of Silverados and had good luck with them too.
I hope you got the Duramax if you are towing much, otherwise the Powerboost was a way better choice. You just can’t beat the ecoboost for towing- low rpm, quiet and power for days.
My brother just got the Chevy dealer to buy his 2020 Silverado back under the lemon law. Looked nice but not reliable with trans problems. He just got his check. He is now buying a 2024 Ford Superduty.
cylinder deactivation can be disabled, little bit tougher to disable a turbo.
Even if you disable it it will still have problems
@@markpontes4457 anything can have problems, but by disabling it, it lessens the chance.
And that's why dealerships typically only give a 36 mo warranty. If they truly felt their vehicle was built with quality components they would give 100k mile unlimited on everything on the vehicle as the basic warranty.
Well…. I’ve had a few Silverados since 2020. I actually think the 2020 was better built than the 23 I’m currently in. However the new interior is nice. It’s probably not long lasting and reliable but neither is Ford and Ram might be better but the maintenance cost calculations over 10 years is crazy! Toyota is not as great as it once was. I’d say the 2014-21 Toyota Tundra would probably be the best truck to purchase if you want good reliability and longevity with good fit and finish and quality. Otherwise just buy a new truck every few years and they probably won’t break down in that time.
We bought a 2018 ford edge titanium with a 2.0L turbo and 28k miles. We have had nothing but issues with it. Turbo went out at 60k, flexplate broke shortly after that. 87k miles the turbo needed replacement again. Fast forward to just over 100k and the turbo is bad again. This time we are out of warranty and looking at $2200 to have it replaced. Called ford and they wont do anything. Turbo has a 2 year warranty but they wont replace it because the warranty is on the original part we replaced the first time and not the second one. We will never own another ford again.
My 150 had about 100k and mechanic had said the one turbo was starting to leak oil so he recommended to replace them and i later found out you can replce the seals which is like a couple hundred bucks compared to 3 to 4k 😢. But beings i like some power i opted to up grade turbos for a size bigger than ford raptor which gave me 550 hp the truck is not head studded and i sold it to a buddy who uses it as a pulling work truck everyday and its still running great and has 168k now. I put a bigger intercooler on though to keep it safe. I also had a racing shift kit installed the truck will easily keep up with a boosted and tuned wrx subaru😅😅😅😅
My 2012 ecoboost v6 twin turbo F150 just turned 222k miles. Runs excellent.
Stop trying to talk fast. It sounds like your just Babbling.
Dont buy it but we cant say why? Then praise dodge? Ok????
It is interesting to note that NO "full sized" pick up is listed on "Consumer Reports' short list of "Best Used Cars/Trucks" to buy! Sorry to disappoint the RAM fan-boys! Btw, you are WRONG about the F150 having major transmission issues. According to CR's "reliability' charts, the F150 transmissions show the transmissions to be "ABOVE AVERAGE" in reliability, at least up to 2021. This data is from "Consumer Reports 2022 Auto Issue".
I don't hear very well. I had to slow down the playback to understand you. SLOW DOWN. You're not getting paid for how many words you can say per minute.
I’m very happy with my 2021 3.5. Tons of power, it rides like my wife’s Lincoln.
I over service everything I own. I’m not at all concerned.
I’m driving north with my brother this weekend, he just bought a 2022 Ram. It’s a very nice truck, but I worked for Ford and Chrysler, I found Chrysler didn’t look after their customers as well as Ford. Just saying!
Consumer reports is good for picking a new dishwasher. They have never remotely had a hold on automobiles and there is a very good reason you can't see anything about they surveys they collect.
We just scrapped every eco boost in our company fleet. Complete pieces of crap. BTW, we do not own any vehicles with cylinder deactivation either. The owner refuses to buy future problems. When I ordered my 7.3, I made sure to not have the auto start stop feature.
I haven't had any problems with my 2018 Tundra, so I'm sticking with it.
First time to watch this channel, as far as I know, IMO if you can’t say why then you shouldn’t say anything.
I've had Ford's all my life and been driving over 50 years. The only vehicle I had that was a lemon was 91 Buick Regal that spent more time at the Dealer than it did on the road and GM finally gave me my money back. I don't really take much stock in what Consumer reports has to say they are the last people on Earth that are fair and balanced.
My 2022 f150 is great. Good ride, comfortable, plenty of power. Change your oil the truck will be fine.
My 2023 f150 has been in the shop for months due to electrical issues with no ETA on parts
Have a 2023 F 150….not one single problem
Who the hell can afford one anyways
Christ. Is every new truck on the market is bad? Can’t get a Tundra due to the turbo issues, F-150 has transmission problems, rust issues? Frustrating. Do I buy a used 5 year old model????
Define "unreliable" how many failures or returns to dealers per 10,000 vehicles? Where is the use of empirical data? One only hears from folks with problems so the loudest voice in the room is heard, but that is not indicative of overall quality. I'll bet that the engines/vehicles built today have a much higher level of reliability and longevity than those built 20 - 30 years ago.
There is no empirical data available.
I smartened up in 19 when i switched from ford to Ram ..will never buy there Garbage anymore and now i own the most awarded most reliable pickup ❤
We have been through this!! You can’t claim any truck to be the most reliable truck. You trade them in once a year lol
@matts6764 I'm claiming Ram Is not anyother truck..and I'll be keeping this one no issues year and a half 💪👍
Pretty absurd for anyone to claim that a Fiat Chrysler product is more reliable than a Ford when the Rams are falling apart all over the internet, but more power to you
@@gaaarrryyy5 quit whining kid and listen to video the last 3 years have been Ram 💪👌
The 5.7 liter hemi is nice. But the Fords 3.5TT beats it out in torque by a long shot
Lets be clear...all full sized trucks today are over priced by a large amount. They are simply not worth the money unless you have a very specific payload need that only a full sized truck bed can meet. Hauling air isn't one of them. I gave up on them 10 years ago after owning many brand new pickups for decades. A mid sized SUV rides better, gets much better gas mileage, and can tow my bass boat every bit as good as my pickup ever did. I know this very well since I've been doing it for years now. The full size pickup market lost me when they wanted 35-40k for a 25k truck 10 years ago...now they are asking 45-50k for that same basic 25k 4x4 truck. No thanks.
Is this really a surprise? Ford's quality control has been atrocious for years now.
Get the F-250 with the 6.8L V8.....No deactivation and it is based on the older, best reliable 6.2L V8 engine. Plus you get STANDARD what is optionally super expensive to make the F-150 the king of payload / towing (3,300 / 13,000 - 14,000) among 1/2 ton pickups. My only concern is that the 10 speed is now the standard. Street pricing on these 250s is now as cheap as these equivalent F-150s
As cool and powerful the Powerboobs engines are, they are just that, Boobs (engines) on Silicone (Twin Turbos).
I don't think the 7.3 is worth it since you have to pay for a whole load of crap (other packages) coming closer to almost $10K more!
The F-250 6.8 is where is at, THE END!
Was this article taken down? I cant find it on your site.
Looks like Ford forgot to send a check to CR this year 😮
They said 2023's not 20-22 or 24's...what's up with that
That's how Consumer Reports works.
Buddy has an engine oil leak. He's waiting on Ford to decide to replace it.
My experience has found that Consumer Reports is no longer a non-partisan, objective organization. They have become a social issues advocacy group masquerading as an objective product review company. I quit subscribing after getting dozens of social issues emails and finding terrible product review coverage for common products available at the national stores. Good bye Consumer Reports.
Our ‘22 Powerboost Lariat has been perfect in operation and quality. A couple recalls completed, the most recent being a wiper motor replaced. We love the ride, the power, the fuel economy and the great towing ability.
Consumer Reports…..meh. Speak to actual vehicle owners (not on UA-cam) and get their experiences firsthand. The vehicle owner in the parking lot at Home Depot or Costco will be happy to share their experiences.
Stick with a 2021 or less tundra w a 5.7 and be happy for life !
I plan on getting a F250.
Just bought a 2023 ford f150 single cab with the 5.0 and I’m getting vibration from the motor at idle .. most noticeable when at a red light .. is this normal ?
Yes. I’d say normal.
@@Pickuptrucktalk thanks for your time 👍🏼
I could have sworn that the F150 had 'average' reliability according to Consumer Reports just last year? Other than changing the dashboard etc., I didn't think there was much change in 2023, so it would be interesting to see what CR thinks is wrong now. Yes, I know the 5.0 recently got cylinder deactivation. I am having trouble believing that the F150 handles much worse than the competition as well, and who cares if the ride is a quarter of a notch worst than some of the competition? I actually own a new GMC HD, but, even after hearing what CR thinks, I would still consider the F150 if I were in the market for a half-ton. I'll bet JD Power doesn't think the F150 has bad reliability. I will occasionally look at what CR has to say, but I always take it with a grain (or two) of salt.
The Gen 4 5.0 (21-up with cylinder deactivation) have proven to be MUCH better than the Gen 3.
I don’t know wtf this video is talking about
For nearly $70k, they are f-n junk. Don’t believe it?? Then go buy one and see for yourself.
JD Power is presently connected to a certain automaker so a little suspect. F-150 has not been good for years. Hard to get something right if it's changed consistently.
@@dukekelloway5328 5.0 and 2.7 F150s are pretty darn good
@@dukekelloway5328 I’ve literally owned personally and leased for our business dozens of F150s for years now and they are a fantastic truck. Not perfect but then no vehicle is.
Tim, you're correct in that many manufacturers don't properly coat their products for anti-corrosion. I've been in the aerospace helicopter industry as a design engineer for 30 years. The M&P engineers (material and processing) would never let us cheap out on corrosion prevention, in any condition; especially salt water. Nice to see your videos are accurate. Corrosion is a huge part of quality. Dissimilar metals, corrosive catalysts like salt water; it's mechanics of materials 101 ... I guess the car industry just hasn't figured that out yet. Toyota has made a lot of progress.
Fluidfilm annually.
Toyota HAD to make progress after the Tacoma frame fiasco lol
no, they definitely figured it out. it's called planned obsolescence. if OEM's actually cared about preventing corrosion then we wouldn't have a reason to come back a few years later to buy another POS from them
They figured it out, but they want it to rust out within 8-10 years so you'll buy another one.
I think we forgot what a truck was used for.. (ride and handling) it's not supposed to be a luxury car.
I don’t know about anyone else but when I spend that much money on a vehicle, it had better ride and drive great. Nothing wrong with a comfortable seat or smooth ride.
Ok…. Buy the XL 🤷🏼♂️
“F” Consumer Reports! Buy the 2023 or 2024 FORD F-150 Pick Up Truck and you will not be disappointed‼️👍🏽 FORD is the greatest manufacturer in all of History‼️ ❤️🇺🇸 MADE, and ❤️FORD
I bought a 23 F150 Platinum Powerboost, and it’s an amazing truck. I test drove a 23 Tundra 1794, and to me there was no comparison. F150 is a significantly more polished truck. Don’t care about Consumer Reports.
Fake
@@GtFivehundred lol says the computer generated user name. Yeah, ok.
I own a ‘23 XLT Powerboost and it’s by FAR the best truck I’ve ever owned. I only have about 12k miles on it so I can’t preach too much, but I haven’t had so much as a hiccup with this vehicle.
I have 52,678 miles power boost and it’s the best truck ever
Appreciate the actual ownership experience: I'm in the market to lease a 24 PB vs 23 Lightning
You're right about corrosion being an issue, just ask gm owners about their frames and wheel wells. It's ridiculous how cheap these vehicles are made and now they're becoming even more disposable more quickly than ever before
Naw. Ask Ford owners. Don't put y'all problems on us. From owing at least 12 Gm cars and trucks frame age 14 to now. From using owning 5 Gm trucks. We have no problems with rust nore frame under truck rust issues. State ownership facts vs personal byest opinions I only heard bout rust problem s from Ford and Dodge but thank you anyways . God GM LS Lt FTW.
Or are the frames and the wheel wells a result of improper protection by owners themselves? I am sure they are.
No issues with my 2015 5.0 v8
same. flawless truck.
This video did not age well. Toyota just recalled their junk turbo engine in the Tundra because they are failing in droves.
Everyone should know not to listen to Consumer Reports. Their data is gathered from subscribers and is very, very biased.
Talk slower. Your content will be so much better. You words at times are like a big jumble.
As a Ford technician I recommend the same posture. As I tell all of my friends and anyone who will listen. Not going to have family upset with my recommendation. and learning Transmissions have been around for 20 years. The sad part is that Ford can't get it right because they rush it to Market before it's sufficiently tested. Ford trucks come off the carrier to the dealership requiring updates on 10 to 15 modules. NoT ACCEPTABLE. Make it. Test it.. customers are not and should not be the guinea pigs when they're spending 62 to$90,000 on a truck
Why did GM then release the old 6 speed with the 6.6 L8T gas V8 instead of the 10L1000 unlike Ford in 2020? There must be a reason.
Have a 2021 F150 5.0. It has been absolutely flawless since purchase. I now have 43000 miles on it and it has been used regularly to haul 6-9,000lbs. It's smooth, comfortable, and does everything I need it to. Coming from a 2018 that treated me the same until it was totaled; I can't complain. I've driven the rams and the Chevys, the ram has a nicer ride but I didn't like the interior as much, the chevy felt underpowered and heavy. That's my opinion, everyone is entitled to their own and I'd never judge. But I'm personally very pleased with my F150.
According to Consumer Reports, there are NO "full sized" pick-ups of ANY brand on their list of MOST reliable list ('12-'21). You must be one of the LUCKY ones to get an F150 that was NOT built on a Mon or Fri! Btw, the '17, '18 F150 IS on their "WORST USED CARS/TRUCKS" to buy list. HAPPY MOTORING!
@@TheOzthewiz I’m well aware lol. When my friends are shopping I steer them away from 17 F150s with the 10spd and I steer them away from 18 F150s in general. I was definitely a lucky one with mine. However, I will also say that any vehicle will last with proper maintenance. My 18 5.0 never had transmission issues, but it did have the preignition issue and it showed signs of oil consumption. But keeping the oil change intervals at 3000mi, it was never below its full mark by more than maybe 1/2 a quart. The preignition was mitigated when I started running it on 93 octane fuel. Doing those two things kept the truck running flawlessly. My 21 doesn’t have any preignition issues or oil consumption issues. But I still keep the oil change interval at 3000mi.
I own another vehicle too that is not known for reliability. A 2005 ford Explorer. Their transmissions are absolutely abysmal and if you have the 4.0 (I have the 4.6 2v) you will have timing chain issues along with thermostat housing problems. I’m currently at 220k miles on it and it runs/drives like a dream and it’s never left me stuck on the side of the road. It’s also never given me a check engine light. But again, I’m ridiculous when it comes to preventative maintenance.
@@thedude7315I couldn’t even tell you the price on mobil 1 synthetic. I run motorcraft 5w30 synthetic blend. You’re probably right
🤔don’t buy an f150…..so what, buy a ram or a tonka transformer………yeah i don’t think so. I will buy an f150 over the chrysler junk anyday, regardless of all these alleged issues. The ecoboost in our 21 expedition has been solid and is a beast.
This day and age we are buying new vehicles that are nothing more than a computer with a pick up bed. Any of the makes can have all the issues from year to year.
I say buy lower grade trim levels to avoid all the bells/whistles nonsense that causes alot of trouble, but hey thats me.
I say those consumer reports are mainstream media bullshit and should be taken as such.
I guarantee f150 rules the market down here in south louisiana.
consumer reports are full of shit.
No ford's are shit.
Consumer reports is basically full of crap and always have been. If it's not a Toyota it is no good in their eyes. Total BS
Sad, but true.
Toyota is not the be-all end-all. The technology ride handling and economy have never been as good as americantrucks. They only have a slight Edge in reliability, but they're ugly as hell, and RAM is just as reliable
I’ve never had an issue yet with my 21 2.7 ecoboost f150. Plenty of power for me and my needs and pretty good mileage. Reliability of the 2.7 seems to be pretty good overall from what I’ve heard
Well... This is for 2023.
The 2.7 is the best eco bost engine
I'm surprised you have not had an oil pan problem, I'm getting rid of my truck.
Why would I have trouble with my oil pan
oh boy here we go, any ecoboost will shit itself within 5 years guaranteed. i work closely with a handful of ford technicians who have replaced more ecoboost engines in the past 2-5 years than they have on any other motor in their entire 20+ year career. just my opinion though i wish good luck for your truck
I just bought a 23 f150 ecoboost, traded my 2020 ford f150 5.0. My 2023 rides much nicer than my 2020 and the power of the 3.5 EB is just awesome, towing my boat and camper with ease
I can’t find one instance of problems in F150 forums with 5.0 cylinder deactivation outside of exhaust note complaints. If you have data that suggests otherwise, publish it.
Gen 4 5.0 reliability issues have been just this side of nonexistent - unlike the Gen 3 5.0 without cylinder deactivation that it replaced
You can turn off cylinder deactivation by going to sport mode
It shifts goofy and holds gears too long revving too high for me to use sport mode in the city. When I let off, it seems to not want to down shift quickly enough. 23 F150 XLT Reg. cab 5.0@@carlchancellor8519
From the article, it’s a “Model to Avoid”, not a “Do Not Buy”. Off the top of my head, I remember the first Smart car diesel was a “Do Not Buy”, so there is a difference. Their over all summary rating in the article for F150 was ( 5 level score from much better, better, average, worse, much worse)
Popular Full-Sized Pickup Truck to Avoid
QUICK TAKE Ford F-150 2023
ROAD TEST - better than average
PREDICTED RELIABILITY - worse than average
PREDICTED OWNER SATISFACTION - better than average
2022 f150 Tremor. Never had a better riding truck. Smooth transmission and power delivery. Would definitely recommend it to anyone. Only downside I see to the 2023 is you lose the heated steering wheel and pay more with pricing increases. I know more people that sold their new tundra for a new f150 than vice versa
I don't even understand the desire for a heated steering wheel. I've lived in cold weather country my whole life and never thought for a second I needed a heated steering wheel!
@@scarharting5577 I think it kind of shows the mindset re: "I know more people..."
@@scarharting5577You obviously don't work with your hands.... The heated steering wheel does the same for my hands that the seat does for my back and bottom.
The biggest downside I see is that Ford started using oil pump belts on the 2.7 and 5.0 starting a few years ago and they routed the belt behind the timing chain. It's going to be a big expense if you are the type that keeps a truck for that many miles. Trading it before then dodges the expense but the used market may reflect that big service expense in used truck values.
@stephenfrost545 once I had heated steering on those subzero mornings, I couldn't go without it from then on.
I own a 2016 chev high country.
Its a pig with lip stick.
You buy chevs because they help you become a mechaic
This mechanic explains well the issues. And, looks like they have been resolved.ua-cam.com/video/ckfB7n_0FBk/v-deo.html. I am considering buying one after test driving all other trucks. The F-150 seems to have the best seats and the most useable features.
2023 ecoboost super cab fx4 sport, loving it so far, 12,000 miles since March 1st.
A 6-month boycott on ALL new vehicles would help. Stop buying everything with wheels. Folks. WAIT! Watch manufacturers BEG us to come back!! 😮
Truck shopping is such a pain. I was looking into Silverados…people are saying issues. New tundra has issues. 2nd gen tundras are expensive used with high mileage.
Sucks to get a $40-50k truck that all can have potential issues
I have a 20 Silverado RST crew cab 5.3. Zero issues. My only complaint is the seats are hard as a rock and too small.
@@fit4ya1975 I initially wanted a 23 RST but it was a lot. I think like $60k + so I just went with the 23’ F150 STX 5.0
Fact of the matter is it doesnt matter what you buy. There's always gonna be somebody telling you it's junk. Just get what you want at this point. Everything has its pros and cons
@@jeremiahsk8nsurf174 Ford is nice to man, the 5.0 is a great choice.
These trucks ride very well.....but the price......🙄
All brands have issues. All this new tech just gives more shit to break. The materials are getting cheaper and they’re charging more money. My 22 Sierra was hopefully my last vehicle I’ll buy anytime soon.
Consumer Reports people are idiots. And I own a new Silverado ! Now days all the big three make good trucks. It all about personal preference.
In 2015 I needed to upgrade my vehicle and decided on a f150 lariat with the 5.0 v8. Just seemed the best option at the time. I considered a Chevy but opted not to mainly because of frame corrosion here in Canada with salt use on the roads and the cylinder deactivation Chevy used….
To hear Ford has gone to cylinder deactivation on the 5.0 saddens me.
I am looking at the Ford lightning but charging and range in rural Manitoba when it is -30c gives me huge pause….
Guess I’ll rock my 15 for a few more years.
Man thats cold! Here on the Monterey Bay Ca, got a rust free 268k F150 Plat Eco with few issues, just basics. Keep your 15 cause it bring you truck joy...lol
I believe Consumer Reports likes to have some incendiary hot takes these days in order to catch some news headlines. Not a publication I choose to put much weight into at the moment. If others started echoing this same sentiment, then I'd take more notice.
I have a 2021 power boost, I get 28 mpg average on the highway and 26 in town. No issues with trans or engine.🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
Loving my 2023 F-150 STX 4x4 2.7L. Don’t really care what consumer reports says. Coming from a 2015 Ram 1500 5.7 that was an amazing truck. Hope this F150 serves me just as well.
And this is why id rather buy a ford f250 super duty with a 6.2 boss v8 used becuse those ford trucks where designed for comical use versus the f150 that is more of a family focused truck.
After owning several makes of trucks over the years, I have found that it is more dependant on the individual truck you bought and how you use it that will determine reliability save recalls etc...I expect to treat surface rust on undercarriage when I purchase a truck! Buy a kit: CRC corrosion inhibitor, Blaster Surface Shield, Eastwood internal frame coating and POR 15 High Temp .
I will let the Whole World Know when 1 of seals in the Turbos goes out in my brother's 2015 2.7L "Twin Turbo" F-150. He is Currently at 216,000. Yeah. It cost me a little bit of Money at 160,000 Miles cause it dropped a small Corner of Dorito size piece of exhaust valve. It shot out the exhaust. My theory Is this happened because he didn't maintenance the Cam Phaser at such a High Mileage & time was out. That's just the way it Is with those Modular Engines I think. Yea, i just had a Transmission Speed Output Sensor put in it. Still Going. He got him a Real Cubicle Job Now. So I think he's about done Ubering. Probably as soon as he gets his 1st Paycheck.
I truely find that the ride and the handling in my 2023 F150 Powerboost are an improvement over the ride and handling of the 2005 F150 that it replaced.
As far as reliability goes, my old 2005 F150 proved to be extremely reliable over 18 years of ownership with me.
The only problems I have noticed yet with my 2023 F150 Powerboost are related to the audio, where for some unknown reason the Android Bluetooth audio seems to turn off on it's own.
But the engine power that it puts out is quite a lot and without straining itself.
Oh, and also I have averaged 18.7 mpg's while always using regular unleaded gasoline.
@cma8165 was your 05 a power boost also? Would love to hear how that held up all those years and what it was used for daily. Truly think the powerboost is underrated .
@@michaelmontalbano772 My 2005 F-150 Lariat had a 5.4 liter V-8 engine and it was not a powerboost, cause Ford only started offering their Powerboost optioned F-150s since 2021. But my old F-150 held up really well and it towed a car hauler loaded with a 2003 Escalade on multiple occasions and I also used it to haul my things over great distances whenever needed. I was greatly pleased with it throughout the time that I owned it.
@cma8165 EPA rating for Powerboost is 23mpg. Your 18.7 is quite a bit under that. Are you stomping it a lot or is it that far off in real world situations. I’m interested to know. I love the look and features of the new body in a Lariat trim. Strongly considering purchasing soon. Any input is strongly appreciated.
@@d.perkins1588 It just so happens that my 2023 Powerboost F150 encourages "spirited driving" cause it picks up speed quickly and that's how I drive it most of the time in the city. And while I'm on the freeway I just drive it at the posted speed limits. I've noticed that the mpg's improve mostly when driving on the freeway. The turbos and the electric motor help it get off the line and pick up speed very quickly.
@michaelmontalbano772 In 2005 Ford may have just started thinking about hybrid pick ups.
I bought a 2023 f150 3.5 ecoboost loving it great on fuel, and no issues yet knock on wood
I am sure many here can swear about Ford and how great they are. I will never buy Ford.....period. Ford, in my book, builds quantity and not quality. I don't trust Ford's design/production. You will never see me writing a check for 65K base Ford truck. Having said that, I wonder how the new Hurricane I-6 Turbo by Dodge will perform/reliability. I am holding in the corner till the first "PIGS" will get them 😂
It sounds like Ford didn't make its payment to CR. That's a nice truck ya got dere, Ford. Be a shame if anything happened to it.
consumer reports opinions dont hold much weight with me.
used to listen to Consumer Reports podcast but they have some wonky opinions, so I stopped.
Is someone at Consumer Reports trying to get Ford dealers to lower their F150 prices.
Maybe they're just trying to show Ford fanboys guitar better options out there and not to be ignorant
I've had 3 F150's with the 10 speed transmission. My current F150 is a 402a package tremor. Talk about ride and power - it can't be beat. No issues with any of my previous 10 speeds or the turbos. Have had a platinum (V8),, lariat sport edition (3.5 EB), and now tremor (3.5 EB). I always change the oil in my trucks every 5k miles. I guess when you sell more you'll have more problems (quantity wise). Too bad no one really shares their measurement system and how they're measuring reliability, ride, blah blah blah...
Exactly my thoughts and experience.
I'm on my second F150 first one was a 2.7 this one is a 3.5. Both good engines but I favor the 2.7 with a 3.71 rear end. It had the same power as the 3.5 but better gas mileage
Did you buy the eb again cause you liked it better than the v-8?
@@richardscribben4352 yeah - the low end torque is what I really love about the eb. Low rpms maximum power output. drives & accelerates effortlessly.
I bought a 2022 Tundra immediately after they came out since I previously had a 2015 Tundra. I really liked the 22 Tundra, but I wasn't in love with it. Went with the SR5. I found the turbo to have a lot of lag and I never felt like I enjoyed the interior. It made a ton of noise with what felt like cheap plastic and didn't ultimately live up to my expectations of my 2015 Tundra. Toyota sold me on reliability and dependability with my 2015 Tundra and the transfer case imploded with less than 5,000 miles on it. The only reason why I stayed with that truck was because the dealership gave me their platinum warranty for 8yrs/100,000 miles. The truck was reliable after that. Well, I just traded the 2022 Tundra last week in for a Lariat F150 v8 and I absolutely love it. It feels better, more solid, more quiet, more features... and I bought a warranty for it in case it does begin to have issues. I'm a career firefighter and need something reliable and safe. Time will tell and a week isn't enough to give a full review, but so far I really enjoy it and feel "At home" compared to my Tundra. My last thoughts are this... for the average consumer, buy the extended warranty. This is one of the few things I'll buy a warranty on. I've owned all of the brands and they all have their issues. Love the videos and keep them up!
Lariat is equivalent to tundra platinum not sr5
@@Reu_ag lol that’s what I was thinking. The dude didn’t compare models very well.
@@Reu_ag You make a fair observation and I see another commenter brought it up as well. When I purchased my SR5, I was very limited in the area I live with what trim level they had in the color I wanted and settled. I drove all of the trims and wanted nicer. With that said, each of the trims to me with the Tundra didn’t have that same premium feel my F150 has. Even the XLT I drove before my Lariat felt like it was smoother and quieter in the cab. The plastic didn’t make a bunch of noise and overall the truck seemed better.
With that said, I’m not a brand loyal person. Today I’m in an F150, yesterday I was in a Tundra and tomorrow I might be in a GM. I’ve owned all of them and my entire point of this wasn’t to compare the SR5 to the Lariat, but more so to focus on the point that I’ve felt like each of them have their own issues and nothing is a tank anymore.
To wrap it up, I’m certainly aware of the differences between the two trims, but you’d be surprised. The tundra still had plenty of features. I liked it, but just didn’t love it after a year and half.
I’d say they fixed most of what you said. I have a ‘23 tundra SR5 trd sport with the highest package. It’s been amazing so far and tows beyond expectations. No rattling or issues in that regard. Interior is a bit basic (except the big screen). But that should not surprise you since it’s how Toyota does all their vehicles.
@@studsauce7803 Sounds like you got a good one! I have nothing but love for the tundra. Was a good truck for my family, but ultimately not what I fell in love with (today anyways lol)
One things it’s rear suspension.
IT’s the worst what I experienced, much stiffer than GM
I smell bias. If you you take out the 2 EVs they gratuitously put in the top 5, the F150 is third on their list. But, it gets better. The Lightning is second and has a higher rated handling and ride. I own and drive these Fords. The gas F150 doesn't deserve to be rated 7 points behind the Lightning and a measly 3 points above a Titan. The two EVs scored well above the competition on the road test score. I'm betting it wasn't a cross country road trip. The inequalities just get worse from there.
I bought a new 2023 Ford F150 5.0 V8 and I’ve never drove a truck that rides and drives as nice as my new truck. Very nice inside and comfortable.
I have the same…2023 5.0 V8. Awesome truck, no issues at all.
Cylinder deactivation, belt driven oil pump, junk transmission. Restore an old truck the new stuff is absolute junk Chevy ford and dodge. The electronics are rediculace don’t want it or need it.
Start/Stop along with cylinder shut off is just a disaster waiting to happen. Also learning transmision is just awful. Also we need to stop buying these overpriced vehicles.