Fewer sales will just lead to diseconomies, which will raise prices even further. That's actually the problem now. Fewer buyers, less production, higher margins, higher prices. It's the Venezuela effect.
@@AkioWasRight The car market is still high. Calm down acting like you know everything. Ford ain't a premium brand they can't keep it up forever and will end up having to cut prices or go out of business. Simple as that.
I’ve got a 2023 F150 5.0 Lariat FX4 and ZERO issues! Shifts great and daily driver. I only use Amsoil Signature Series every 4-5k miles and absolutely LOVE it!
For the past 37 years I’ve been buying brand new trucks every 3-4 years and aside of my LandCruisers this ford has been extremely reliable and very easy to add aftermarket updates like a lift and engine work with zero issues so I don’t need luck cause I bought a Ford. No disrespect but that’s the government talking and don’t think you like the government pushed mandates do you as they’re going after the automobile makers herd right now as Ford has been fighting against their mandates which is why you can still find a new V8 ford without cylinder deactivation or auto stop so how about looking up how out of the ten top most reliable vehicles Ford F150 5.0 was the most reliable vehicle many years in a row, the nine others were all Toyotas. There’s always a lemon in a bunch and unfortunately there are many more in every manufacturer. Just bought my wife a new Yukon Denali and that POS has been in the shop every month. So, I’d only speak with actual Ford F150 owners and not these government supported companies
@@txgreek3512 my 2015 f150 5.0 just got totaled. 120k miles. zero issues. absolutely loved it. no tranny flushes or anything. just regular oil changes. drove it all across America several times. good truck.
As a Ford technician I recommend the same posture. As I tell all of my friends and anyone who will listen. Not going to have family upset with my recommendation. and learning Transmissions have been around for 20 years. The sad part is that Ford can't get it right because they rush it to Market before it's sufficiently tested. Ford trucks come off the carrier to the dealership requiring updates on 10 to 15 modules. NoT ACCEPTABLE. Make it. Test it.. customers are not and should not be the guinea pigs when they're spending 62 to$90,000 on a truck
Have a 2021 F150 5.0. It has been absolutely flawless since purchase. I now have 43000 miles on it and it has been used regularly to haul 6-9,000lbs. It's smooth, comfortable, and does everything I need it to. Coming from a 2018 that treated me the same until it was totaled; I can't complain. I've driven the rams and the Chevys, the ram has a nicer ride but I didn't like the interior as much, the chevy felt underpowered and heavy. That's my opinion, everyone is entitled to their own and I'd never judge. But I'm personally very pleased with my F150.
According to Consumer Reports, there are NO "full sized" pick-ups of ANY brand on their list of MOST reliable list ('12-'21). You must be one of the LUCKY ones to get an F150 that was NOT built on a Mon or Fri! Btw, the '17, '18 F150 IS on their "WORST USED CARS/TRUCKS" to buy list. HAPPY MOTORING!
@@TheOzthewiz I’m well aware lol. When my friends are shopping I steer them away from 17 F150s with the 10spd and I steer them away from 18 F150s in general. I was definitely a lucky one with mine. However, I will also say that any vehicle will last with proper maintenance. My 18 5.0 never had transmission issues, but it did have the preignition issue and it showed signs of oil consumption. But keeping the oil change intervals at 3000mi, it was never below its full mark by more than maybe 1/2 a quart. The preignition was mitigated when I started running it on 93 octane fuel. Doing those two things kept the truck running flawlessly. My 21 doesn’t have any preignition issues or oil consumption issues. But I still keep the oil change interval at 3000mi. I own another vehicle too that is not known for reliability. A 2005 ford Explorer. Their transmissions are absolutely abysmal and if you have the 4.0 (I have the 4.6 2v) you will have timing chain issues along with thermostat housing problems. I’m currently at 220k miles on it and it runs/drives like a dream and it’s never left me stuck on the side of the road. It’s also never given me a check engine light. But again, I’m ridiculous when it comes to preventative maintenance.
I bought a 23 F150 Platinum Powerboost, and it’s an amazing truck. I test drove a 23 Tundra 1794, and to me there was no comparison. F150 is a significantly more polished truck. Don’t care about Consumer Reports.
I own a ‘23 XLT Powerboost and it’s by FAR the best truck I’ve ever owned. I only have about 12k miles on it so I can’t preach too much, but I haven’t had so much as a hiccup with this vehicle.
Tim, you're correct in that many manufacturers don't properly coat their products for anti-corrosion. I've been in the aerospace helicopter industry as a design engineer for 30 years. The M&P engineers (material and processing) would never let us cheap out on corrosion prevention, in any condition; especially salt water. Nice to see your videos are accurate. Corrosion is a huge part of quality. Dissimilar metals, corrosive catalysts like salt water; it's mechanics of materials 101 ... I guess the car industry just hasn't figured that out yet. Toyota has made a lot of progress.
no, they definitely figured it out. it's called planned obsolescence. if OEM's actually cared about preventing corrosion then we wouldn't have a reason to come back a few years later to buy another POS from them
I don’t know about anyone else but when I spend that much money on a vehicle, it had better ride and drive great. Nothing wrong with a comfortable seat or smooth ride.
I just bought a 23 f150 ecoboost, traded my 2020 ford f150 5.0. My 2023 rides much nicer than my 2020 and the power of the 3.5 EB is just awesome, towing my boat and camper with ease
2022 f150 Tremor. Never had a better riding truck. Smooth transmission and power delivery. Would definitely recommend it to anyone. Only downside I see to the 2023 is you lose the heated steering wheel and pay more with pricing increases. I know more people that sold their new tundra for a new f150 than vice versa
I don't even understand the desire for a heated steering wheel. I've lived in cold weather country my whole life and never thought for a second I needed a heated steering wheel!
@@scarharting5577You obviously don't work with your hands.... The heated steering wheel does the same for my hands that the seat does for my back and bottom.
The biggest downside I see is that Ford started using oil pump belts on the 2.7 and 5.0 starting a few years ago and they routed the belt behind the timing chain. It's going to be a big expense if you are the type that keeps a truck for that many miles. Trading it before then dodges the expense but the used market may reflect that big service expense in used truck values.
Purchased my 2021 STX 4x4 with the 5.0 brand new. My issues: suspension makes a clunking noise when transitioning from flat areas to ramps or dips; adaptive steering does not respond well to uneven roads; left trailer light circuit will shut off randomly; transmission downshifts from 5 to 6 aggressively; driver side door panel creaks; engine will make a popping noise after normal acceleration; door hinges are warped already; interior seats rattle; exhaust system rattles and underside has lots of superficial rust. Positives: very good towing performance, cheap to maintain, very good gas mileage, good visibility and easy to drive. Have 44K on the odometer - plan to keep the tin turkey for towing and buy an older F150 for commuting.
I don’t doubt that increase in reliability concerns for the 5.0L with CD, that’s why I always drive in sport mode, may get lower MPGs, but way more fun and no CD, when you have an exhaust this is a must.
After owning several makes of trucks over the years, I have found that it is more dependant on the individual truck you bought and how you use it that will determine reliability save recalls etc...I expect to treat surface rust on undercarriage when I purchase a truck! Buy a kit: CRC corrosion inhibitor, Blaster Surface Shield, Eastwood internal frame coating and POR 15 High Temp .
You're right about corrosion being an issue, just ask gm owners about their frames and wheel wells. It's ridiculous how cheap these vehicles are made and now they're becoming even more disposable more quickly than ever before
Naw. Ask Ford owners. Don't put y'all problems on us. From owing at least 12 Gm cars and trucks frame age 14 to now. From using owning 5 Gm trucks. We have no problems with rust nore frame under truck rust issues. State ownership facts vs personal byest opinions I only heard bout rust problem s from Ford and Dodge but thank you anyways . God GM LS Lt FTW.
A friend bought a new 21 F150 with the 5.0. He has been a lifelong Ford guy. The engine valvetrain had a catastrophic failure and it sat at the dealership for six months waiting for a new engine. He has had the truck back for some time now. He said he does not like the transmission and it sometimes clunks badly when shifting. It has been reprogrammed and still shifts badly. I know the pickup market is very competitive and manufacturers are constantly making changes and improvements. I believe some of these constant changes result in reliability issues. The bottom line is new pickups are way too expensive and are experiencing declining reliability.
I wonder is the valvetrain issue is related to the cylinder deactivation system in the 5.0 Coyote now? Anyways, I feel sorry for your friend. I hope he gets taken care of soon enough. I would recommend he look at a Titan if he is considering a full size truck.
Truck shopping is such a pain. I was looking into Silverados…people are saying issues. New tundra has issues. 2nd gen tundras are expensive used with high mileage. Sucks to get a $40-50k truck that all can have potential issues
Fact of the matter is it doesnt matter what you buy. There's always gonna be somebody telling you it's junk. Just get what you want at this point. Everything has its pros and cons
I was sorry I subscribed to Consumer Reports years ago, because a lot of the products they recommended to buy ended up being garbage in my opinion. Anything you buy these days you're taking a chance.
I bought a 2022 Tundra immediately after they came out since I previously had a 2015 Tundra. I really liked the 22 Tundra, but I wasn't in love with it. Went with the SR5. I found the turbo to have a lot of lag and I never felt like I enjoyed the interior. It made a ton of noise with what felt like cheap plastic and didn't ultimately live up to my expectations of my 2015 Tundra. Toyota sold me on reliability and dependability with my 2015 Tundra and the transfer case imploded with less than 5,000 miles on it. The only reason why I stayed with that truck was because the dealership gave me their platinum warranty for 8yrs/100,000 miles. The truck was reliable after that. Well, I just traded the 2022 Tundra last week in for a Lariat F150 v8 and I absolutely love it. It feels better, more solid, more quiet, more features... and I bought a warranty for it in case it does begin to have issues. I'm a career firefighter and need something reliable and safe. Time will tell and a week isn't enough to give a full review, but so far I really enjoy it and feel "At home" compared to my Tundra. My last thoughts are this... for the average consumer, buy the extended warranty. This is one of the few things I'll buy a warranty on. I've owned all of the brands and they all have their issues. Love the videos and keep them up!
@@Reu_ag You make a fair observation and I see another commenter brought it up as well. When I purchased my SR5, I was very limited in the area I live with what trim level they had in the color I wanted and settled. I drove all of the trims and wanted nicer. With that said, each of the trims to me with the Tundra didn’t have that same premium feel my F150 has. Even the XLT I drove before my Lariat felt like it was smoother and quieter in the cab. The plastic didn’t make a bunch of noise and overall the truck seemed better. With that said, I’m not a brand loyal person. Today I’m in an F150, yesterday I was in a Tundra and tomorrow I might be in a GM. I’ve owned all of them and my entire point of this wasn’t to compare the SR5 to the Lariat, but more so to focus on the point that I’ve felt like each of them have their own issues and nothing is a tank anymore. To wrap it up, I’m certainly aware of the differences between the two trims, but you’d be surprised. The tundra still had plenty of features. I liked it, but just didn’t love it after a year and half.
I’d say they fixed most of what you said. I have a ‘23 tundra SR5 trd sport with the highest package. It’s been amazing so far and tows beyond expectations. No rattling or issues in that regard. Interior is a bit basic (except the big screen). But that should not surprise you since it’s how Toyota does all their vehicles.
@@studsauce7803 Sounds like you got a good one! I have nothing but love for the tundra. Was a good truck for my family, but ultimately not what I fell in love with (today anyways lol)
I’ve never had an issue yet with my 21 2.7 ecoboost f150. Plenty of power for me and my needs and pretty good mileage. Reliability of the 2.7 seems to be pretty good overall from what I’ve heard
oh boy here we go, any ecoboost will shit itself within 5 years guaranteed. i work closely with a handful of ford technicians who have replaced more ecoboost engines in the past 2-5 years than they have on any other motor in their entire 20+ year career. just my opinion though i wish good luck for your truck
I could have sworn that the F150 had 'average' reliability according to Consumer Reports just last year? Other than changing the dashboard etc., I didn't think there was much change in 2023, so it would be interesting to see what CR thinks is wrong now. Yes, I know the 5.0 recently got cylinder deactivation. I am having trouble believing that the F150 handles much worse than the competition as well, and who cares if the ride is a quarter of a notch worst than some of the competition? I actually own a new GMC HD, but, even after hearing what CR thinks, I would still consider the F150 if I were in the market for a half-ton. I'll bet JD Power doesn't think the F150 has bad reliability. I will occasionally look at what CR has to say, but I always take it with a grain (or two) of salt.
JD Power is presently connected to a certain automaker so a little suspect. F-150 has not been good for years. Hard to get something right if it's changed consistently.
@@dukekelloway5328 I’ve literally owned personally and leased for our business dozens of F150s for years now and they are a fantastic truck. Not perfect but then no vehicle is.
In 2015 I needed to upgrade my vehicle and decided on a f150 lariat with the 5.0 v8. Just seemed the best option at the time. I considered a Chevy but opted not to mainly because of frame corrosion here in Canada with salt use on the roads and the cylinder deactivation Chevy used…. To hear Ford has gone to cylinder deactivation on the 5.0 saddens me. I am looking at the Ford lightning but charging and range in rural Manitoba when it is -30c gives me huge pause…. Guess I’ll rock my 15 for a few more years.
Man thats cold! Here on the Monterey Bay Ca, got a rust free 268k F150 Plat Eco with few issues, just basics. Keep your 15 cause it bring you truck joy...lol
I got 35 thousand miles on my 2021 3.5 EB. It rides pretty good, better than my 2010 Ram 1500. I have really enjoyed the truck so far! I have gone through a few recall repairs, but my dealership has taken care of me with loaner cars and good service.
I believe Consumer Reports likes to have some incendiary hot takes these days in order to catch some news headlines. Not a publication I choose to put much weight into at the moment. If others started echoing this same sentiment, then I'd take more notice.
I have a 2023 F150 PB and no complaints yet. Rides and tows great. Got it over the others due to the better gas mileage and getting 23 mpg on warmer days. Reliability is based on 2 things: good maintenance and luck of the draw.
@@Miiike604 yeah that breaks down further by what day of the week it was built too, like beware of Mondays and Fridays. Heaven forbid it was built before a holiday. You might be missing an engine!
June 26, 2023, I bought a new 2023 Nissan Titan Pro 4X. The engine is a double overhead cam V8 without cylinder deactivation, without start/stop and it has plenty of power. The 9 speed transmission as I understand is a Mercedes design built in Japan and it works great. The truck is beautiful, comfortable, quiet, and powerful. It's such a pleasure to drive. My last 4 trucks were Fords but Nissan gave me a big discount off sticker and financed it at 0%. Can't beat it with a stick!!
From the article, it’s a “Model to Avoid”, not a “Do Not Buy”. Off the top of my head, I remember the first Smart car diesel was a “Do Not Buy”, so there is a difference. Their over all summary rating in the article for F150 was ( 5 level score from much better, better, average, worse, much worse) Popular Full-Sized Pickup Truck to Avoid QUICK TAKE Ford F-150 2023 ROAD TEST - better than average PREDICTED RELIABILITY - worse than average PREDICTED OWNER SATISFACTION - better than average
Just bought a 2023 f-150 w/ 5.0 and it’s rides better than my 2019 3.5 EB. No complaints on it so far. 1000 miles only though. My EB has been great too other than the cam phaser recall. I love the get up and go on it. 74k on the odometer.
I truely find that the ride and the handling in my 2023 F150 Powerboost are an improvement over the ride and handling of the 2005 F150 that it replaced. As far as reliability goes, my old 2005 F150 proved to be extremely reliable over 18 years of ownership with me. The only problems I have noticed yet with my 2023 F150 Powerboost are related to the audio, where for some unknown reason the Android Bluetooth audio seems to turn off on it's own. But the engine power that it puts out is quite a lot and without straining itself. Oh, and also I have averaged 18.7 mpg's while always using regular unleaded gasoline.
@cma8165 was your 05 a power boost also? Would love to hear how that held up all those years and what it was used for daily. Truly think the powerboost is underrated .
@@michaelmontalbano772 My 2005 F-150 Lariat had a 5.4 liter V-8 engine and it was not a powerboost, cause Ford only started offering their Powerboost optioned F-150s since 2021. But my old F-150 held up really well and it towed a car hauler loaded with a 2003 Escalade on multiple occasions and I also used it to haul my things over great distances whenever needed. I was greatly pleased with it throughout the time that I owned it.
@cma8165 EPA rating for Powerboost is 23mpg. Your 18.7 is quite a bit under that. Are you stomping it a lot or is it that far off in real world situations. I’m interested to know. I love the look and features of the new body in a Lariat trim. Strongly considering purchasing soon. Any input is strongly appreciated.
@@d.perkins1588 It just so happens that my 2023 Powerboost F150 encourages "spirited driving" cause it picks up speed quickly and that's how I drive it most of the time in the city. And while I'm on the freeway I just drive it at the posted speed limits. I've noticed that the mpg's improve mostly when driving on the freeway. The turbos and the electric motor help it get off the line and pick up speed very quickly.
Knock On Wood... 2015 F150 Ecoboost with 155K. So far, rock solid... Keep fresh oil and plugs in it and run intake cleaner thru it at every oil change. Only ongoing issue is the dang engine light from the post cat air sensor that comes and goes every few weeks or so... But overall it's been a great truck.
I can’t find one instance of problems in F150 forums with 5.0 cylinder deactivation outside of exhaust note complaints. If you have data that suggests otherwise, publish it.
It shifts goofy and holds gears too long revving too high for me to use sport mode in the city. When I let off, it seems to not want to down shift quickly enough. 23 F150 XLT Reg. cab 5.0@@carlchancellor8519
My 2021 powerboost is flawless. 50k miles on it and i haul equipment and trailer every weekend and then i rideshare with it every other day. No issues, flawless. It also has powered multiple stages as i am a musician and sometimes gigs don’t supply power and this truck has been an absolute godsend! No other truck is worth my time to look at
If they are so FLAWLESS, why do the re-calls keep piling up? It seems like Ford is in a race to be the "RECALL KING OF THE HILL" followed by Hyundai/Kia!
I have a '23 F150 XLT 5.0 that I bought in March, and I haven't had a single problem with it. They certainly benefit from different rear shocks (I installed Bilstein 5160's), but other than that, I don't have any complaints. I did purchase an 8 year/100,000 mile PremiumCare warranty through Granger Ford just in case any issues arise in the future.
Bought in March 2023. Reading this in November 2023. Your opinion isn't really worth reading. I have a 2020 F150 XLT that I bought brand new in Jan 2020. I drive a lot. Have over 227 000km on it - yes, that is no typo, over 227k. No problems with my 3.3L V6 Engine. No problems with my transmission, no problems with corrosion
What gets me is how you are treated after the sale by the dealer... Rockwall Toyota in Rockwall Tx is one of those dealers that treat the customer lousy after the sale, and then when the truck goes into the dealer for service, they give you a list of things they "found" during your service...
I have a 2018 F-150 XLT 5.0 FX4 purchased new and it's been good. Use synthetic oil and no oil consumption that some reported. The 10 speed transmission has been good unhitched and towing my 7000 pound travel trailer. I do drive easy does it, not pedal to the metal. I bought it because it had what I needed, 36 gallon fuel tank, tow package with controller, 7k payload package, LT tires, nav, dual power seats, bed liner, back up sensors, remote start etc. I couldn't find a Ram 1500 Hemi with what I needed. Only use it for towing and hauling so it's a relatively low mileage truck. Don't have much of a rust issue as I'm in southern Arizona, but a wire brush and black rust-oleum works on minor surface rust on the rear axle. With the crazy prices on new trucks now I will hang on to this one as long as I can. Knock on wood. I check and top up the front and rear axles and the transfer case with Ford spec fluids as they tend to be a tad low from the factory. I did the same thing on my 2013 FX4 (also a very good truck) which was a tad low from the factory as well. Don't expect the dealerships to check these levels on a new or late model truck.
@@albertatundra Truth. Got to wonder how many miles he put on them. I need a truck that can go 250,000 miles trouble free. My 2010 is at 170,000, with the 5.4 V8 had a couple of minor problems.
@@albertatundra Maybe I should listen to you more often because you make good financial sense. Before the F-150s, I owned a new 95 Sierra, 00, 04, and 08 Silverado. I traveled for work and usually put ~200k miles before trading them in on a new model. In 2015 I decided to try an F-150. Why? Mainly because of the aluminum body and 10-speed, and I wanted to try an EcoBoost. I was sick and tired of lifter and transmission issues. In 2019 I traded my F-150 for a new Raptor, which blew me away by how good that truck was. This year I bought a Rivian and will try the EV thing for a year or so. Obviously, I could have saved a ton of money if I drove less and bought less. But what fun would that be? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@albertatundra Perhaps he upgraded trim levels, perhaps the first was leased and he decided to get another and financed it instead and did better than refinancing the first leased one.
I have a 22 f 150 3.5 eco boost with 23,000 miles. So far i have had all the recall’s fixed. Replaced, inverter under the back seat, trailer connector and just had the transmission reflashed.
I've had 3 F150's with the 10 speed transmission. My current F150 is a 402a package tremor. Talk about ride and power - it can't be beat. No issues with any of my previous 10 speeds or the turbos. Have had a platinum (V8),, lariat sport edition (3.5 EB), and now tremor (3.5 EB). I always change the oil in my trucks every 5k miles. I guess when you sell more you'll have more problems (quantity wise). Too bad no one really shares their measurement system and how they're measuring reliability, ride, blah blah blah...
I'm on my second F150 first one was a 2.7 this one is a 3.5. Both good engines but I favor the 2.7 with a 3.71 rear end. It had the same power as the 3.5 but better gas mileage
Had a 2022 and put 30k miles on it. Got my 2023 power boost in December of 2023. Truck runs and rides great. The rough transmission random issue in my 2022 is nonexistent as they did finally figure out what was happening to cause it. Handling… my guess is they got a level kit truck which changes how they ride. My truck is smooth as can be. This is a complaint because Ford still uses a solid axle for trucks. Deal with it.
Well…. I’ve had a few Silverados since 2020. I actually think the 2020 was better built than the 23 I’m currently in. However the new interior is nice. It’s probably not long lasting and reliable but neither is Ford and Ram might be better but the maintenance cost calculations over 10 years is crazy! Toyota is not as great as it once was. I’d say the 2014-21 Toyota Tundra would probably be the best truck to purchase if you want good reliability and longevity with good fit and finish and quality. Otherwise just buy a new truck every few years and they probably won’t break down in that time.
I currently own a 2010 F-150 XLT Crew Cab with the 4.6 V8 engine after my VW Passat R-Line got totaled last year. It was a one owner with 118k miles and conditions were great. Put a set of new Michelin LTX tires and got the alignment done a month after I bought it. For being a 13 year old truck, the ride quality still impresses me. Couple of my friends complimented me on the conditions and ride quality. One of my friends, who drives a 2021 Tundra TRD Pro he purchased new, met with me to have brunch, and he said I want to drive your truck. After we did a little loop around the area we went to eat, he said, this old truck rides better than my Tundra. And he was working at Toyota headquarters. I also owned, well, leased a 2015 Silverado 1500 LT Double Cab with the 5.3 V8 back then. Best truck ever. Never had any unexpected repairs. Just regular maintenance done until about 50K miles. I traded because I was way over the miles for lease. You want your vehicle, in this case truck, to work well, treat it nicely and don’t drive like a jackass. Any vehicle is susceptible to have issues or being a lemon. Do I wish my old 2010 F-150 had some features my Passat had, like the killer Fender Sound System and Sunroof, absolutely. But it is not making my truck less of vehicle for not having those features.
50,000 miles is nothing to judge a vehicle on. One finds out how good a vehicle one has at 150,000 miles. By then that GM will almost certainly need a new transmission and that 5.3 will be on its last leg. An F150 with the 5.0 is just getting broken in at that point.
@@herbb8547 Not yet. Though, selling her since my boss prefers we drive newer trucks. Still running well. She was driven mostly on the highway before me so... probably part of why she's gone so long
@derekjp6043 A new truck sometimes has more problems than the used one. I once traded in a Ford Ranger for a Chevy Silverado. I went from a very dependable vehicle to a complete nightmare. That Chevy was in the shop at least once a week for the next two months. It was brand new. But came off the production line as a piece of junk.
🤔don’t buy an f150…..so what, buy a ram or a tonka transformer………yeah i don’t think so. I will buy an f150 over the chrysler junk anyday, regardless of all these alleged issues. The ecoboost in our 21 expedition has been solid and is a beast. This day and age we are buying new vehicles that are nothing more than a computer with a pick up bed. Any of the makes can have all the issues from year to year. I say buy lower grade trim levels to avoid all the bells/whistles nonsense that causes alot of trouble, but hey thats me. I say those consumer reports are mainstream media bullshit and should be taken as such. I guarantee f150 rules the market down here in south louisiana.
old ford owners have been cautioning people for half a decade or more.i quit buying them by 09.the great quality avalanche started not too long after.but my old fords are keepers.
I had a 2007 Sr5 and the bed (always covered with a Capt rusted thru on the floor just behind both wheel walls. Toyota replaced the entire bed. Thanks Toyota. So I bought a 2014 Limited. Loved it but guess what…same rust problem in the same two spots. This time Toyota refused to fix in any way. So I told em next truck will be aluminum. I bought a new 2022 XLT Ecoboost 3.5 v6 and so far so good. Time will tell. Glad you have no rust issues. I must say I never had even one problem with Toyota driveline (5.7, tranny, transfer or diff’s) on either the 2007 or the 2014, and I pulled 24ft camper a bunch.
This is what's happening when Marketing drives the show. Way too expensive now: Digital clusters (including all touch screens and fingertips knobs), too much gizmos, too much luxury, too much all over the place. Adding these price goes up. Bring back Previous clusters, bing back physical knobs, remove all unnecessary gizmos, and concentrate on build quality instead. A Single Cab 8ft bed v8 6spd auto F150 should cost less than 40k, not 60k+.
This video did not age well. Toyota just recalled their junk turbo engine in the Tundra because they are failing in droves. Everyone should know not to listen to Consumer Reports. Their data is gathered from subscribers and is very, very biased.
My 2021 f150 powerboost has been great with only a reflash for the trailer tow. Differential rust? I touch up my truck every year anyways with rustoleum. My transmission has been good. Mileage has been good even with my eibach lift and toyo at3's. My favorite f150 so far and I have owned seven over the years.
As the owner of a 23 F150 King Ranch, I’m frustrated with a number of quality issues that I’ve never had on any other vehicle I’ve owned… body panels are not aligned and gaps not uniform , paint has orange peel and poor dealer service experiences are among the issues I’ve experienced. I wouldn’t recommend.
Dealer experiences I can see, but the body panel alignment, gaps and orange peel are hard to believe frankly. Every recent F150 I’ve seen is perfect in all those regards. The Tundra on the other hand…..that was a mess in the body department. Good luck, you spend that much money you deserve better.
It was cold and rainy when I took delivery…. I should have gave it a more thorough look over before taking it home. Ford fixed it under warranty. While at the dealer to address the fit and finish issues, oil changes, etc., I looked around and saw a few others w similar issues…most were ok, but a few were not. They’re were not doing well in the QC dept. when mine was manufactured, in January.
Reliability is an issue with all brands, and now it's price gouging on top of it. Today's market is a hope to get one that will run, if not the manufacturer will be paying for a lot fixing. Nothing is built with quality anymore, after it's only designed for a 5 year life span.
@@dennisrutherford6973 oh yah that’s much better then the 12 my ram got. But I still prefer the twin turbo eco boost motor. It’s got tons of torque and power and feels so efficient. I average around 22 no matter how aggressive I drive it. My favorite motor out there personally
1. I have a 23 f150 with a 5.0 and it’s been great 2. The ride quality does jump because of the rear axle.. I opted for the reliability of leaf springs. 3. I got a Ford bumper to bumper for 8 years for like 1600 bucks. I don’t have to worry about anything beyond mfg warranty. 4. Undersprayed with NH oil undercoating, surface rust issues no longer a problem and I got a $500 credit from the dealer when I pointed it out.
In December, I believe, CR rated the Powerboost F-150 the worst truck you could buy. I don't live or die by CR ratings but I was seriously considering that truck as a tow vehicle. I'm picking up my new Sierra 1500 later today.
Wow, you do know that the GM twins have recently been trashed by CR right? Our ‘22 F150 Powerboost is a fantastic tow vehicle. We absolutely love it. Good luck with your Sierra. I wonder if you talked to actual PB owners as well? I’ve owned lots of Silverados and had good luck with them too.
I hope you got the Duramax if you are towing much, otherwise the Powerboost was a way better choice. You just can’t beat the ecoboost for towing- low rpm, quiet and power for days.
My brother just got the Chevy dealer to buy his 2020 Silverado back under the lemon law. Looked nice but not reliable with trans problems. He just got his check. He is now buying a 2024 Ford Superduty.
Our 17 f150 was rock solid, new owner is a coworker. 147k miles now 1 water pump. We purchased a 21’ eco boost, and just got rid of it at 47k miles. -front axle seal replaced twice -turbo oil drain seal leaking -transmission shudder -radio bugs out a bunch -last straw was when radio froze (was still playing music but unresponsive) and during emergency stop in highway we lost trailer brakes when rv in front lost a chair. While the f150 was at the dealer we got a 21 Titan for a rental. Needless to say we now have a 2022 Titan XD pro4x.
Got rude of a 21 ford eco boost couldn't keep it running 10k miles couldn't keep it out of the shop to sell it got it back after 6 months off and on sold it as fast as possible.
So far my 2017 has been rock solid to. I was worried about the new 10 speed transmission and 2nd gen 3.5l, but it hasn’t let me down yet. With today’s prices and interest rates I’m keeping it for the long haul.
Loving my 21XLT. 19,800 miles, towed 6500lbs over 300 miles today on interstate and really steep hilly back roads. Runs strong, most comfortable vehicle every. Was a 30 year Toyota/Honda man. Couldn’t get a Tundra when I bought. So Ford won. No regrets, average over 20mpg lifetime manually calculated including over 2000 miles towing. V8 power and efficiency, Baby!
Be very grateful my friend. My 2021 F-150 Raptor leaked water into the cab causing electrical issues, had a leaky turbo charger which caused it to burn up, and I had a shock go out all before 30,000 miles. Sold it at 36,040 miles thankfully with little loss.
Being 70 years old and had subscriptions at two or three different times I have learned not to trust Consumer Reports. That goes for Motor Trend, Car and Driver and several other rags.
Interesting vid! What I read from the forums are mostly electronic issues. Haven’t heard anyone complain about their turbos (2.7 or 3.5). Some concerns on 3.5 cam phasers but previous generation issues were supposed to have been improved. Fingers crossed my 22 5.0 keeps ticking along!!
I think it's EB = Ecoboost, but of course there a smaller 2.7 unit also. Sorry to hear this after bragging about my 3.5 . We have a 2015 150 EB 268k on her. Still love the truck...
I have a friend who just paid $4000 to replace the turbos on his 3.5 Ecoboost engine. He had 140k miles on that truck. Otherwise, it's been a good truck for him.
All brands have issues. All this new tech just gives more shit to break. The materials are getting cheaper and they’re charging more money. My 22 Sierra was hopefully my last vehicle I’ll buy anytime soon.
I ordered a new 23' F150 3.5 eco boost Lariat last February, received it in late May. Mind you, this truck has 1,150 miles on it. About 4 weeks ago while on a routine drive as I was attempting to pass a car going 45 mph, I hit the accelerator gently and noticed I had lost about half of the engines HP and the check engine light came on immediately, took it to the dealership where I purchased it and they told me that one of the turbo charger shafts was broken in half! A month later, I'm still without my truck (parts on backorder)and I'm thinking seriously about enacting the "lemon law" with Ford. I paid way too much for this vehicle to be having motor problems already. I have been a loyal Ford guy for the last 40 years and for the most part, not many issues.☹
@@richardscribben4352 Ford really stepped up to the plate and settled it outside an actual "lemon law" claim. I'm still waiting for my new truck (2024) to be built but they allowed me to drive the Lariat (small per mile fee) until it arrives. Hat's off to Fords RAV team for making my situation right!👍
The 5.0 has cam timing issues. I work on a City fleet with Ford F150's. We've replaced turbos on the 3.5 ecoboost. There has been a switch to Silverados now. Already replaced three 5.3 engines in 2019-2020 models.
Yep I took my 2020 Platinum in today for cam shaft position sensor codes. The repair shop i’ve been going to for years switched them out but engine is still rattling. They told me the timing is messed up and if they were me, they would take it down and trade it in for something else. They said this is a common problem for these models. Also, the repair shop owner had the same truck as me at one point, and it happened to his as well with 37k miles on it. Mine only has 45k on it. Being that you work at a dealership what truck is the best out nowadays ? I’m afraid to go the gm route due to their issues with shaking. I love the 2023 ford limited. I think the issue is when ford went to 10 speed on these 5 liters.
I drive a 2020 F-150 with the 5.0L Coyote--so, far, it's been very reliable. Ford ruined the 5.0L in 2021 when they put cylinder deactivation on it. Cylinder deactivation is a crap technology--and that includes the Chrysler and GM engines. To be fair, I know people that have also had big problems with the Chrysler 5.7 Hemi with cylinder deactivation-related issues, as well as with GM engines. The GM 6.2 V8 has been a real dog for some people I know--one guy who had three new ones in GMC AT4's at his resort/ranch had two of the three shell out their engines below 30K miles. I have several friends with Ford Ecoboosts--they all have had problems, up to and including complete engine failures. I remain unconvinced that turbocharged gasoline engines will have the reliability and longevity of naturally aspirated engines. Of all of the 1/2 ton truck engines, the one that I think has the best reliability and longevity is the now-discontinued Toyota 5.7 V8. It's only weak spot was pretty awful fuel economy.
Just bought a 2021 Ford F-150 with 36000 miles on it. It seems to hae spent it's whole life in Michigan. No undercoating on the frame. No rust on the frame. I don't understand it, but I like it. I may undercoat it, but I will wait until I finish wiring it for my trailer camera.
I wouldn’t buy anything unless I NEEDED it. The more people boycott buying these new expensive vehicles, the faster the prices will drop! Just watch, all of a sudden there will be a “sale” and prices will drop along with interest rates.
F150 gen 3 5.0 had oil consumption issues, A lot of dummies didn't break them in right I feel, that motor was awesome for tuning handle 1000hp stock with on 3 TT kit! Same goes for gen 4 you need to get them tuned gets rid of skip shift and cylinder deactivation. Oz omega run any fuel with their tune but e85 made 409 rear wheel torque
I have owned Ford trucks since 1980. Never any major problems. Some small repairs corrected same day they were taken in. I also do high mileage and I will buy another when tired of my 2020 Super Duty.
No worries here! I absolutely will not pay 70 grand for a new f150 anyways! Ill replace the engine and tranny in my current truck. Whats insane is now you can buy a f350 for less money than a f150. Our local dealer has a f350 that has a 54 thousand dollar sticker. The f150 sitting next to it is 76 grand! This makes zero sense.
Had 3 F150s in this month on trade. One 2017, one 2021 one 2018. All 3.5L ecoboosts. All 3 have bad turbos , with cracked exhaust manifolds. 10k repair job.
I lost confidence in Consumer Reports and dropped my subscription because of their obvious bias against all American car brands. I believe the data that they gather is good but their editorial bias comes out in their recommendations. Thanks for the report and keep up the good work!
Loving my 2023 F-150 STX 4x4 2.7L. Don’t really care what consumer reports says. Coming from a 2015 Ram 1500 5.7 that was an amazing truck. Hope this F150 serves me just as well.
I wired brushed the rear end and brushed Tremclad on it and it perfectly fine after 16 months in Canada with our winters. I like the no rust body being aluminum.
Stay away from Fords! My brother just had a 2021 F150 with a 5.0L Coyote motor just quite running. This guy does meticulous maintenance on all his farm equipment and vehicles and documents it all. Took the truck to the Ford dealership in Tulsa. 10 minutes later they tell him the truck (52,000 miles on it) needs a new motor. No explanation why EVERYTHING on the motor broke and it ALL needs to be replaced. He asks to speak to the technician. They say, "No". He laughs and walks back into the Ford maintenance shop and begins asking this technician what he did to diagnose the truck and what EXACTLY is wrong with the truck. Technician says, "I just pulled the codes and gave them to the maintenance boss. He decided what to do. He takes the truck back to the farm, does a bit of research, pulls the valve covers, and finds ONE broken valve spring....ONE. A $10 fix. Ford wanted him to buy a $7,000 motor. Wait...I forgot to tell you that Ford wouldn't even discuss a warranty fix, because the truck was 2,000 miles over the 50,000-mile warranty limit. Real nice, Ford! So, because he overdoes everything, he bought a whole new head and valve train to replace ONE broken valve spring. He buys the Ford maintenance manual to ensure he does the work to Ford specifications. After replacing the head 3X and NOT being able to time the truck correctly, he gets a little frustrated. My brother calls around and finds a retired Ford technician who agrees to time the truck for $1,000. He does it in 1/2 a day. My brother asks him what he did wrong? The retired Ford technician says Ford purposely left the most important step in timing the truck out of the Ford maintenance manual my brother paid an arm and a leg for to ensure he did it to Ford specs. The technician says, "You have to have this special tool and load the #2 cylinder by rotating the cam 90 degrees before you replace the timing chain. Total cost to fix ONE valve spring, which is apparently a big problem on these 5.0 Coyote motors (bad Chinese steel), on a Ford truck with 52,000 miles = $2,000. Yeah, he sold that POS and Ford lost a customer for life. More importantly, I plan to tell this story to everyone who will listen until the day I die. Ford Motor Company is managed by a bunch of greedy assholes who DO NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT and will try to rip you off at every turn. If you do business with Ford Motor Company, you deserve what you get...a pile of garbage built by a company that will not stand behind their vehicles. Sell that piece of crap and buy a GMC with a 6.6L DURAMAX. It's the best diesel engine made today...period...full stop. Go watch the YT videos Gale Banks made on the 6.6L DURAMAX. Y'all seem like decent folks, and I sure want to see you succeed with your YT channel. I like watching the adventures. Go buy a truck you can count on. Go buy a new GMC truck with a 6.6L DURAMAX. They are literally indestructible.
I have a 2022….rear suspension squeaks and cannot figure out why and ford says it’s normal….rear breaks squeak with 15k miles and ford says it’s normal….radio screen went dark and no longer working and ford said the sync module that went out is a common failure and it’s on back order…damn🤦🏻♂️
If you have squeaking, check your tail gate ..I had the same problem with mine and I could figure out what it was till one day I was stepping on my rear bumper to get in the back and had to grab the tail gate and heard a squeak ,that sound the same we when I was driving over bumps ...check it out for yourself give the tail gate a pull back and forth see if that helps
I did watch a YT video of a transmission tech rearing down both GM and Ford 10 speeds and there is more of a difference in hardware as well. The tech found plenty of areas for future problems.
Tim, I just bought a 2023 f150 powerboost king ranch. Every thing that could be painted underneath, differential, hangers, everything frame related is painted. Maybe ford heard the input from people like you. Good job
I have a 2018 F-150. 5.0 with 47,000 miles. I’ve had zero issues other than the normal engine noise and oil consumption for this year model, lol. I don’t mind adding 2 quarts of oil between 5k oil changes. It took some getting used to too, but I just tell myself it is the nature of the beast. If I have any major issues then I may consider something else but it seems that all brands are having issues, I would be stumped on my next choice. Maybe I will buy an 70, 80’s model and build it???
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I will let the Whole World Know when 1 of seals in the Turbos goes out in my brother's 2015 2.7L "Twin Turbo" F-150. He is Currently at 216,000. Yeah. It cost me a little bit of Money at 160,000 Miles cause it dropped a small Corner of Dorito size piece of exhaust valve. It shot out the exhaust. My theory Is this happened because he didn't maintenance the Cam Phaser at such a High Mileage & time was out. That's just the way it Is with those Modular Engines I think. Yea, i just had a Transmission Speed Output Sensor put in it. Still Going. He got him a Real Cubicle Job Now. So I think he's about done Ubering. Probably as soon as he gets his 1st Paycheck.
I don't know, I have a 2021 Ford F150 XL supercrew with the 3.5 echoboost and it runs great, Other than 2 recalls haven't had any issues with engine and transmission.
I switched from being a lifetime ford to a Toyota 2 years ago when fords nonchalant attitude at their service department became obvious. I miss the cooling seats... NOTHING ELSE!
By the way, I traded a 23 ram laramie, I only had for three months. It was ok to a point, but it just didnt seem as solid as the ford, kinda subpar for a truck. The ford feels more substantial to me. Hope it doesnt bite me in the butt!!!
Your comments echoed by no one ever. Especially not someone who's really driven both, as I do every day oh, there is no comparison and ride and comfort between the two. Enjoy your frequent trips to the dealer for recall
@@ubeuonly WTF dude did I hit a nerve?? Ive had 5 Rams and 3 f150s. The Ram is a great truck, READ my comment. The f150 powerboost I have has an edge with the hybrid. If Ram would get their crap together I might go back except for the fact Rams have the largest in crease in price over the past 5 years. And BTW I own stock in stillantis and sold my ford stock. just sayin
@@richardlively1666 as I said every magazine and every reviewer and everybody I've ever known it's giving both have said the ride of the Coil Springs is better. But I guess your ass is different. That was my comments, number one in reliability 3 years in a row better options and less ordinary..and discounted 10% not like the square truck dealer. Air suspension. A real audio system. Not just a big afterthought screen like ford had to do to copy ram. Check out that aspect ratio on the Ford camera. Not even close. It's an afterthought truck built to a price point. But let's line up to get the McDonald's of trucks. Did I mention 100k on original brakes on my ram??will go another 50k. I change f150s at 50k did I mention also artificial engine noise piped into the audio system to make it sound like a real truck? I could go on and on for hours and maybe some slump will go out and drive a ram before he falls into line buying Every Man's truck. Mission accomplished and one less lemming of future trumper. U hit anerve..ubeuonly. not who they say u should be
Ford people are Ford people and will always buy them regardless. I’ve always been a GM person just because of ride and seat comfort, I have owned Fords. I’ve given them several trials over the years and always had issues with them. I take great care and keep maintenance items completed as recommended by manufacturer. I’ve owned an F-150, 2- Explorers, and a Bronco. All had major oil leaks just past 36,000 miles(out of warranty), 1 cam shaft bearing failure at 60,000, 2 transmissions with torque converter problems. The torgue converter’s went out under warranty, one happened on the way home from purchasing. So Fords are not on my menu any longer, just got rid of my last explorer, probably the best of the lot, 2015 with eco boost, made it to 70,000 before valve covers starting leaking and two wheel bearings. Traded for my first different than GM or Ford ever, got a platinum Nissan Pathfinder. We will see how this goes!
Ram leapfrogged everyone with a 2019 model M it's also the most reliable, and funny you should mention two seats in the GM, I've seen dozens of blogs complaining about seat comfort in General Motors trucks
My 150 had about 100k and mechanic had said the one turbo was starting to leak oil so he recommended to replace them and i later found out you can replce the seals which is like a couple hundred bucks compared to 3 to 4k 😢. But beings i like some power i opted to up grade turbos for a size bigger than ford raptor which gave me 550 hp the truck is not head studded and i sold it to a buddy who uses it as a pulling work truck everyday and its still running great and has 168k now. I put a bigger intercooler on though to keep it safe. I also had a racing shift kit installed the truck will easily keep up with a boosted and tuned wrx subaru😅😅😅😅
Great post....and timely. Loved my first ever Ford; a 2018 F150 Lariat SuperCrew Sport with 5.0 V8......UNTIL I discovered an excessive oil consumption issue. This is widespread with the 2018 - 2020 Coyote 5.0 V8. I had 67k a few months ago when I noticed it was using 2+ qts of oil in 3,500 miles....which is the mileage I always change my oil at, instead of the 7k miles Ford recommends. Had a tsb 'fix' for this issue applied and monitored the past 3,500 miles after a fresh dealer oil change (always use the dealer BTW)..... 2 qts low again. Online forums seem to point out the TSB doesn't work. Starting a dealer oil consumption test under the extended power train warranty Ford was nice enough to give me for free due to this issue...... But I doubt there is any real fix for this. We will see.... Probably my first and last Ford ever. 5.0 was supposed to be a tried and true engine....and that is why I chose it when I ordered it new.....turns out - it is junk!
Nobody should be buying anything new anymore. If we stop, they will stop charging $60,000 for a base vehicle!
Very true 👍
Keeping my 06 f150 nothing wrong with it right now, but it'll make more sense to put a new engine in it than to buy a new truck
Fewer sales will just lead to diseconomies, which will raise prices even further. That's actually the problem now. Fewer buyers, less production, higher margins, higher prices. It's the Venezuela effect.
Wrong there are too many people buy it will not change also used cars are also continue to get more expensive
@@AkioWasRight The car market is still high. Calm down acting like you know everything. Ford ain't a premium brand they can't keep it up forever and will end up having to cut prices or go out of business. Simple as that.
I’ve got a 2023 F150 5.0 Lariat FX4 and ZERO issues! Shifts great and daily driver. I only use Amsoil Signature Series every 4-5k miles and absolutely LOVE it!
Doesn't change the rating lol. GL to you on your truck
For the past 37 years I’ve been buying brand new trucks every 3-4 years and aside of my LandCruisers this ford has been extremely reliable and very easy to add aftermarket updates like a lift and engine work with zero issues so I don’t need luck cause I bought a Ford. No disrespect but that’s the government talking and don’t think you like the government pushed mandates do you as they’re going after the automobile makers herd right now as Ford has been fighting against their mandates which is why you can still find a new V8 ford without cylinder deactivation or auto stop so how about looking up how out of the ten top most reliable vehicles Ford F150 5.0 was the most reliable vehicle many years in a row, the nine others were all Toyotas. There’s always a lemon in a bunch and unfortunately there are many more in every manufacturer. Just bought my wife a new Yukon Denali and that POS has been in the shop every month. So, I’d only speak with actual Ford F150 owners and not these government supported companies
@@txgreek3512 my 2015 f150 5.0 just got totaled. 120k miles. zero issues. absolutely loved it. no tranny flushes or anything. just regular oil changes. drove it all across America several times. good truck.
I friggin hope so it's brand new omg
As a Ford technician I recommend the same posture. As I tell all of my friends and anyone who will listen. Not going to have family upset with my recommendation. and learning Transmissions have been around for 20 years. The sad part is that Ford can't get it right because they rush it to Market before it's sufficiently tested. Ford trucks come off the carrier to the dealership requiring updates on 10 to 15 modules. NoT ACCEPTABLE. Make it. Test it.. customers are not and should not be the guinea pigs when they're spending 62 to$90,000 on a truck
Why did GM then release the old 6 speed with the 6.6 L8T gas V8 instead of the 10L1000 unlike Ford in 2020? There must be a reason.
Don't buy anything ... crash the market and trigger a price war.
Have a 2021 F150 5.0. It has been absolutely flawless since purchase. I now have 43000 miles on it and it has been used regularly to haul 6-9,000lbs. It's smooth, comfortable, and does everything I need it to. Coming from a 2018 that treated me the same until it was totaled; I can't complain. I've driven the rams and the Chevys, the ram has a nicer ride but I didn't like the interior as much, the chevy felt underpowered and heavy. That's my opinion, everyone is entitled to their own and I'd never judge. But I'm personally very pleased with my F150.
According to Consumer Reports, there are NO "full sized" pick-ups of ANY brand on their list of MOST reliable list ('12-'21). You must be one of the LUCKY ones to get an F150 that was NOT built on a Mon or Fri! Btw, the '17, '18 F150 IS on their "WORST USED CARS/TRUCKS" to buy list. HAPPY MOTORING!
@@TheOzthewiz I’m well aware lol. When my friends are shopping I steer them away from 17 F150s with the 10spd and I steer them away from 18 F150s in general. I was definitely a lucky one with mine. However, I will also say that any vehicle will last with proper maintenance. My 18 5.0 never had transmission issues, but it did have the preignition issue and it showed signs of oil consumption. But keeping the oil change intervals at 3000mi, it was never below its full mark by more than maybe 1/2 a quart. The preignition was mitigated when I started running it on 93 octane fuel. Doing those two things kept the truck running flawlessly. My 21 doesn’t have any preignition issues or oil consumption issues. But I still keep the oil change interval at 3000mi.
I own another vehicle too that is not known for reliability. A 2005 ford Explorer. Their transmissions are absolutely abysmal and if you have the 4.0 (I have the 4.6 2v) you will have timing chain issues along with thermostat housing problems. I’m currently at 220k miles on it and it runs/drives like a dream and it’s never left me stuck on the side of the road. It’s also never given me a check engine light. But again, I’m ridiculous when it comes to preventative maintenance.
@@thedude7315I couldn’t even tell you the price on mobil 1 synthetic. I run motorcraft 5w30 synthetic blend. You’re probably right
I bought a 23 F150 Platinum Powerboost, and it’s an amazing truck. I test drove a 23 Tundra 1794, and to me there was no comparison. F150 is a significantly more polished truck. Don’t care about Consumer Reports.
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@@GtFivehundred lol says the computer generated user name. Yeah, ok.
I own a ‘23 XLT Powerboost and it’s by FAR the best truck I’ve ever owned. I only have about 12k miles on it so I can’t preach too much, but I haven’t had so much as a hiccup with this vehicle.
I have 52,678 miles power boost and it’s the best truck ever
Appreciate the actual ownership experience: I'm in the market to lease a 24 PB vs 23 Lightning
Tim, you're correct in that many manufacturers don't properly coat their products for anti-corrosion. I've been in the aerospace helicopter industry as a design engineer for 30 years. The M&P engineers (material and processing) would never let us cheap out on corrosion prevention, in any condition; especially salt water. Nice to see your videos are accurate. Corrosion is a huge part of quality. Dissimilar metals, corrosive catalysts like salt water; it's mechanics of materials 101 ... I guess the car industry just hasn't figured that out yet. Toyota has made a lot of progress.
Fluidfilm annually.
Toyota HAD to make progress after the Tacoma frame fiasco lol
no, they definitely figured it out. it's called planned obsolescence. if OEM's actually cared about preventing corrosion then we wouldn't have a reason to come back a few years later to buy another POS from them
They figured it out, but they want it to rust out within 8-10 years so you'll buy another one.
I think we forgot what a truck was used for.. (ride and handling) it's not supposed to be a luxury car.
I don’t know about anyone else but when I spend that much money on a vehicle, it had better ride and drive great. Nothing wrong with a comfortable seat or smooth ride.
Ok…. Buy the XL 🤷🏼♂️
I just bought a 23 f150 ecoboost, traded my 2020 ford f150 5.0. My 2023 rides much nicer than my 2020 and the power of the 3.5 EB is just awesome, towing my boat and camper with ease
2022 f150 Tremor. Never had a better riding truck. Smooth transmission and power delivery. Would definitely recommend it to anyone. Only downside I see to the 2023 is you lose the heated steering wheel and pay more with pricing increases. I know more people that sold their new tundra for a new f150 than vice versa
I don't even understand the desire for a heated steering wheel. I've lived in cold weather country my whole life and never thought for a second I needed a heated steering wheel!
@@scarharting5577 I think it kind of shows the mindset re: "I know more people..."
@@scarharting5577You obviously don't work with your hands.... The heated steering wheel does the same for my hands that the seat does for my back and bottom.
The biggest downside I see is that Ford started using oil pump belts on the 2.7 and 5.0 starting a few years ago and they routed the belt behind the timing chain. It's going to be a big expense if you are the type that keeps a truck for that many miles. Trading it before then dodges the expense but the used market may reflect that big service expense in used truck values.
@stephenfrost545 once I had heated steering on those subzero mornings, I couldn't go without it from then on.
Purchased my 2021 STX 4x4 with the 5.0 brand new. My issues: suspension makes a clunking noise when transitioning from flat areas to ramps or dips; adaptive steering does not respond well to uneven roads; left trailer light circuit will shut off randomly; transmission downshifts from 5 to 6 aggressively; driver side door panel creaks; engine will make a popping noise after normal acceleration; door hinges are warped already; interior seats rattle; exhaust system rattles and underside has lots of superficial rust. Positives: very good towing performance, cheap to maintain, very good gas mileage, good visibility and easy to drive. Have 44K on the odometer - plan to keep the tin turkey for towing and buy an older F150 for commuting.
I don’t doubt that increase in reliability concerns for the 5.0L with CD, that’s why I always drive in sport mode, may get lower MPGs, but way more fun and no CD, when you have an exhaust this is a must.
How much mpg you lose. I’m guessing you don’t care but just wondering
After owning several makes of trucks over the years, I have found that it is more dependant on the individual truck you bought and how you use it that will determine reliability save recalls etc...I expect to treat surface rust on undercarriage when I purchase a truck! Buy a kit: CRC corrosion inhibitor, Blaster Surface Shield, Eastwood internal frame coating and POR 15 High Temp .
You're right about corrosion being an issue, just ask gm owners about their frames and wheel wells. It's ridiculous how cheap these vehicles are made and now they're becoming even more disposable more quickly than ever before
Naw. Ask Ford owners. Don't put y'all problems on us. From owing at least 12 Gm cars and trucks frame age 14 to now. From using owning 5 Gm trucks. We have no problems with rust nore frame under truck rust issues. State ownership facts vs personal byest opinions I only heard bout rust problem s from Ford and Dodge but thank you anyways . God GM LS Lt FTW.
Or are the frames and the wheel wells a result of improper protection by owners themselves? I am sure they are.
A friend bought a new 21 F150 with the 5.0. He has been a lifelong Ford guy. The engine valvetrain had a catastrophic failure and it sat at the dealership for six months waiting for a new engine. He has had the truck back for some time now. He said he does not like the transmission and it sometimes clunks badly when shifting. It has been reprogrammed and still shifts badly.
I know the pickup market is very competitive and manufacturers are constantly making changes and improvements. I believe some of these constant changes result in reliability issues. The bottom line is new pickups are way too expensive and are experiencing declining reliability.
I wonder is the valvetrain issue is related to the cylinder deactivation system in the 5.0 Coyote now? Anyways, I feel sorry for your friend. I hope he gets taken care of soon enough. I would recommend he look at a Titan if he is considering a full size truck.
What was the nature of the valvetrain issue?
Truck shopping is such a pain. I was looking into Silverados…people are saying issues. New tundra has issues. 2nd gen tundras are expensive used with high mileage.
Sucks to get a $40-50k truck that all can have potential issues
I have a 20 Silverado RST crew cab 5.3. Zero issues. My only complaint is the seats are hard as a rock and too small.
@@fit4ya1975 I initially wanted a 23 RST but it was a lot. I think like $60k + so I just went with the 23’ F150 STX 5.0
Fact of the matter is it doesnt matter what you buy. There's always gonna be somebody telling you it's junk. Just get what you want at this point. Everything has its pros and cons
@@jeremiahsk8nsurf174 Ford is nice to man, the 5.0 is a great choice.
I was sorry I subscribed to Consumer Reports years ago, because a lot of the products they recommended to buy ended up being garbage in my opinion. Anything you buy these days you're taking a chance.
You are exactly right. I have seen over the years products they say were garbage but they were as good as anything else. CR has it's faults too.
I bought a 2022 Tundra immediately after they came out since I previously had a 2015 Tundra. I really liked the 22 Tundra, but I wasn't in love with it. Went with the SR5. I found the turbo to have a lot of lag and I never felt like I enjoyed the interior. It made a ton of noise with what felt like cheap plastic and didn't ultimately live up to my expectations of my 2015 Tundra. Toyota sold me on reliability and dependability with my 2015 Tundra and the transfer case imploded with less than 5,000 miles on it. The only reason why I stayed with that truck was because the dealership gave me their platinum warranty for 8yrs/100,000 miles. The truck was reliable after that. Well, I just traded the 2022 Tundra last week in for a Lariat F150 v8 and I absolutely love it. It feels better, more solid, more quiet, more features... and I bought a warranty for it in case it does begin to have issues. I'm a career firefighter and need something reliable and safe. Time will tell and a week isn't enough to give a full review, but so far I really enjoy it and feel "At home" compared to my Tundra. My last thoughts are this... for the average consumer, buy the extended warranty. This is one of the few things I'll buy a warranty on. I've owned all of the brands and they all have their issues. Love the videos and keep them up!
Lariat is equivalent to tundra platinum not sr5
@@Reu_ag lol that’s what I was thinking. The dude didn’t compare models very well.
@@Reu_ag You make a fair observation and I see another commenter brought it up as well. When I purchased my SR5, I was very limited in the area I live with what trim level they had in the color I wanted and settled. I drove all of the trims and wanted nicer. With that said, each of the trims to me with the Tundra didn’t have that same premium feel my F150 has. Even the XLT I drove before my Lariat felt like it was smoother and quieter in the cab. The plastic didn’t make a bunch of noise and overall the truck seemed better.
With that said, I’m not a brand loyal person. Today I’m in an F150, yesterday I was in a Tundra and tomorrow I might be in a GM. I’ve owned all of them and my entire point of this wasn’t to compare the SR5 to the Lariat, but more so to focus on the point that I’ve felt like each of them have their own issues and nothing is a tank anymore.
To wrap it up, I’m certainly aware of the differences between the two trims, but you’d be surprised. The tundra still had plenty of features. I liked it, but just didn’t love it after a year and half.
I’d say they fixed most of what you said. I have a ‘23 tundra SR5 trd sport with the highest package. It’s been amazing so far and tows beyond expectations. No rattling or issues in that regard. Interior is a bit basic (except the big screen). But that should not surprise you since it’s how Toyota does all their vehicles.
@@studsauce7803 Sounds like you got a good one! I have nothing but love for the tundra. Was a good truck for my family, but ultimately not what I fell in love with (today anyways lol)
I’ve never had an issue yet with my 21 2.7 ecoboost f150. Plenty of power for me and my needs and pretty good mileage. Reliability of the 2.7 seems to be pretty good overall from what I’ve heard
Well... This is for 2023.
The 2.7 is the best eco bost engine
I'm surprised you have not had an oil pan problem, I'm getting rid of my truck.
Why would I have trouble with my oil pan
oh boy here we go, any ecoboost will shit itself within 5 years guaranteed. i work closely with a handful of ford technicians who have replaced more ecoboost engines in the past 2-5 years than they have on any other motor in their entire 20+ year career. just my opinion though i wish good luck for your truck
I have a 2021 power boost, I get 28 mpg average on the highway and 26 in town. No issues with trans or engine.🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
2023 ecoboost super cab fx4 sport, loving it so far, 12,000 miles since March 1st.
I could have sworn that the F150 had 'average' reliability according to Consumer Reports just last year? Other than changing the dashboard etc., I didn't think there was much change in 2023, so it would be interesting to see what CR thinks is wrong now. Yes, I know the 5.0 recently got cylinder deactivation. I am having trouble believing that the F150 handles much worse than the competition as well, and who cares if the ride is a quarter of a notch worst than some of the competition? I actually own a new GMC HD, but, even after hearing what CR thinks, I would still consider the F150 if I were in the market for a half-ton. I'll bet JD Power doesn't think the F150 has bad reliability. I will occasionally look at what CR has to say, but I always take it with a grain (or two) of salt.
The Gen 4 5.0 (21-up with cylinder deactivation) have proven to be MUCH better than the Gen 3.
I don’t know wtf this video is talking about
For nearly $70k, they are f-n junk. Don’t believe it?? Then go buy one and see for yourself.
JD Power is presently connected to a certain automaker so a little suspect. F-150 has not been good for years. Hard to get something right if it's changed consistently.
@@dukekelloway5328 5.0 and 2.7 F150s are pretty darn good
@@dukekelloway5328 I’ve literally owned personally and leased for our business dozens of F150s for years now and they are a fantastic truck. Not perfect but then no vehicle is.
In 2015 I needed to upgrade my vehicle and decided on a f150 lariat with the 5.0 v8. Just seemed the best option at the time. I considered a Chevy but opted not to mainly because of frame corrosion here in Canada with salt use on the roads and the cylinder deactivation Chevy used….
To hear Ford has gone to cylinder deactivation on the 5.0 saddens me.
I am looking at the Ford lightning but charging and range in rural Manitoba when it is -30c gives me huge pause….
Guess I’ll rock my 15 for a few more years.
Man thats cold! Here on the Monterey Bay Ca, got a rust free 268k F150 Plat Eco with few issues, just basics. Keep your 15 cause it bring you truck joy...lol
I bought a new 2023 Ford F150 5.0 V8 and I’ve never drove a truck that rides and drives as nice as my new truck. Very nice inside and comfortable.
I have the same…2023 5.0 V8. Awesome truck, no issues at all.
I got 35 thousand miles on my 2021 3.5 EB. It rides pretty good, better than my 2010 Ram 1500. I have really enjoyed the truck so far! I have gone through a few recall repairs, but my dealership has taken care of me with loaner cars and good service.
I believe Consumer Reports likes to have some incendiary hot takes these days in order to catch some news headlines. Not a publication I choose to put much weight into at the moment. If others started echoing this same sentiment, then I'd take more notice.
I have a 2023 F150 PB and no complaints yet. Rides and tows great. Got it over the others due to the better gas mileage and getting 23 mpg on warmer days. Reliability is based on 2 things: good maintenance and luck of the draw.
Imagine believing “luck of the draw” lol. Typical Ford guy. 😂
Guarantee your luck by buying a Toyota!
@@Miiike604 yeah that breaks down further by what day of the week it was built too, like beware of Mondays and Fridays. Heaven forbid it was built before a holiday. You might be missing an engine!
@@pauldiesel4582 lemme know what mechanic you are at and I’ll swing by in my Toyota LOL.
@@Miiike604 There is DEFINITELY something wrong when you have to depend on "luck of the draw"! LOL
June 26, 2023, I bought a new 2023 Nissan Titan Pro 4X. The engine is a double overhead cam V8 without cylinder deactivation, without start/stop and it has plenty of power. The 9 speed transmission as I understand is a Mercedes design built in Japan and it works great. The truck is beautiful, comfortable, quiet, and powerful. It's such a pleasure to drive. My last 4 trucks were Fords but Nissan gave me a big discount off sticker and financed it at 0%. Can't beat it with a stick!!
Maybe Ford didn't give Consumer Reports as much money as the other manufactures?
From the article, it’s a “Model to Avoid”, not a “Do Not Buy”. Off the top of my head, I remember the first Smart car diesel was a “Do Not Buy”, so there is a difference. Their over all summary rating in the article for F150 was ( 5 level score from much better, better, average, worse, much worse)
Popular Full-Sized Pickup Truck to Avoid
QUICK TAKE Ford F-150 2023
ROAD TEST - better than average
PREDICTED RELIABILITY - worse than average
PREDICTED OWNER SATISFACTION - better than average
Just bought a 2023 f-150 w/ 5.0 and it’s rides better than my 2019 3.5 EB.
No complaints on it so far. 1000 miles only though.
My EB has been great too other than the cam phaser recall. I love the get up and go on it. 74k on the odometer.
Good luck...see my F150 5.0 experience in my post above.
@tgilldesign the 21-23 5.0 doesn't seem to have the issues that the 18-20 had. If they did, you would've heard about them by now.
I truely find that the ride and the handling in my 2023 F150 Powerboost are an improvement over the ride and handling of the 2005 F150 that it replaced.
As far as reliability goes, my old 2005 F150 proved to be extremely reliable over 18 years of ownership with me.
The only problems I have noticed yet with my 2023 F150 Powerboost are related to the audio, where for some unknown reason the Android Bluetooth audio seems to turn off on it's own.
But the engine power that it puts out is quite a lot and without straining itself.
Oh, and also I have averaged 18.7 mpg's while always using regular unleaded gasoline.
@cma8165 was your 05 a power boost also? Would love to hear how that held up all those years and what it was used for daily. Truly think the powerboost is underrated .
@@michaelmontalbano772 My 2005 F-150 Lariat had a 5.4 liter V-8 engine and it was not a powerboost, cause Ford only started offering their Powerboost optioned F-150s since 2021. But my old F-150 held up really well and it towed a car hauler loaded with a 2003 Escalade on multiple occasions and I also used it to haul my things over great distances whenever needed. I was greatly pleased with it throughout the time that I owned it.
@cma8165 EPA rating for Powerboost is 23mpg. Your 18.7 is quite a bit under that. Are you stomping it a lot or is it that far off in real world situations. I’m interested to know. I love the look and features of the new body in a Lariat trim. Strongly considering purchasing soon. Any input is strongly appreciated.
@@d.perkins1588 It just so happens that my 2023 Powerboost F150 encourages "spirited driving" cause it picks up speed quickly and that's how I drive it most of the time in the city. And while I'm on the freeway I just drive it at the posted speed limits. I've noticed that the mpg's improve mostly when driving on the freeway. The turbos and the electric motor help it get off the line and pick up speed very quickly.
@michaelmontalbano772 In 2005 Ford may have just started thinking about hybrid pick ups.
Knock On Wood... 2015 F150 Ecoboost with 155K. So far, rock solid... Keep fresh oil and plugs in it and run intake cleaner thru it at every oil change. Only ongoing issue is the dang engine light from the post cat air sensor that comes and goes every few weeks or so... But overall it's been a great truck.
I can’t find one instance of problems in F150 forums with 5.0 cylinder deactivation outside of exhaust note complaints. If you have data that suggests otherwise, publish it.
Gen 4 5.0 reliability issues have been just this side of nonexistent - unlike the Gen 3 5.0 without cylinder deactivation that it replaced
You can turn off cylinder deactivation by going to sport mode
It shifts goofy and holds gears too long revving too high for me to use sport mode in the city. When I let off, it seems to not want to down shift quickly enough. 23 F150 XLT Reg. cab 5.0@@carlchancellor8519
My 2021 powerboost is flawless. 50k miles on it and i haul equipment and trailer every weekend and then i rideshare with it every other day. No issues, flawless. It also has powered multiple stages as i am a musician and sometimes gigs don’t supply power and this truck has been an absolute godsend! No other truck is worth my time to look at
If they are so FLAWLESS, why do the re-calls keep piling up? It seems like Ford is in a race to be the "RECALL KING OF THE HILL" followed by Hyundai/Kia!
I have a '23 F150 XLT 5.0 that I bought in March, and I haven't had a single problem with it. They certainly benefit from different rear shocks (I installed Bilstein 5160's), but other than that, I don't have any complaints. I did purchase an 8 year/100,000 mile PremiumCare warranty through Granger Ford just in case any issues arise in the future.
4 months after purchase I would hope you haven't had issues. bwhahahahaha
Bought in March 2023. Reading this in November 2023. Your opinion isn't really worth reading. I have a 2020 F150 XLT that I bought brand new in Jan 2020. I drive a lot. Have over 227 000km on it - yes, that is no typo, over 227k. No problems with my 3.3L V6 Engine. No problems with my transmission, no problems with corrosion
What gets me is how you are treated after the sale by the dealer... Rockwall Toyota in Rockwall Tx is one of those dealers that treat the customer lousy after the sale, and then when the truck goes into the dealer for service, they give you a list of things they "found" during your service...
I have a 2018 F-150 XLT 5.0 FX4 purchased new and it's been good. Use synthetic oil and no oil consumption that some reported. The 10 speed transmission has been good unhitched and towing my 7000 pound travel trailer. I do drive easy does it, not pedal to the metal.
I bought it because it had what I needed, 36 gallon fuel tank, tow package with controller, 7k payload package, LT tires, nav, dual power seats, bed liner, back up sensors, remote start etc. I couldn't find a Ram 1500 Hemi with what I needed.
Only use it for towing and hauling so it's a relatively low mileage truck. Don't have much of a rust issue as I'm in southern Arizona, but a wire brush and black rust-oleum works on minor surface rust on the rear axle. With the crazy prices on new trucks now I will hang on to this one as long as I can. Knock on wood.
I check and top up the front and rear axles and the transfer case with Ford spec fluids as they tend to be a tad low from the factory. I did the same thing on my 2013 FX4 (also a very good truck) which was a tad low from the factory as well. Don't expect the dealerships to check these levels on a new or late model truck.
My 22 F150 with the 3.5 has been solid definitely don’t regret my purchase. No warranty work needed at all.
I've owned two F-150s with 3.5TT and they both were perfect trucks with perfect reliability. Maybe I was lucky.
If the truck was that good, you would have only bought just one and you would still have it today.
@@albertatundra Truth. Got to wonder how many miles he put on them. I need a truck that can go 250,000 miles trouble free. My 2010 is at 170,000, with the 5.4 V8 had a couple of minor problems.
@@albertatundra Maybe I should listen to you more often because you make good financial sense. Before the F-150s, I owned a new 95 Sierra, 00, 04, and 08 Silverado. I traveled for work and usually put ~200k miles before trading them in on a new model. In 2015 I decided to try an F-150. Why? Mainly because of the aluminum body and 10-speed, and I wanted to try an EcoBoost. I was sick and tired of lifter and transmission issues. In 2019 I traded my F-150 for a new Raptor, which blew me away by how good that truck was. This year I bought a Rivian and will try the EV thing for a year or so. Obviously, I could have saved a ton of money if I drove less and bought less. But what fun would that be? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@albertatundra 💯
@@albertatundra Perhaps he upgraded trim levels, perhaps the first was leased and he decided to get another and financed it instead and did better than refinancing the first leased one.
I have a 22 f 150 3.5 eco boost with 23,000 miles. So far i have had all the recall’s fixed. Replaced, inverter under the back seat, trailer connector and just had the transmission reflashed.
I've had 3 F150's with the 10 speed transmission. My current F150 is a 402a package tremor. Talk about ride and power - it can't be beat. No issues with any of my previous 10 speeds or the turbos. Have had a platinum (V8),, lariat sport edition (3.5 EB), and now tremor (3.5 EB). I always change the oil in my trucks every 5k miles. I guess when you sell more you'll have more problems (quantity wise). Too bad no one really shares their measurement system and how they're measuring reliability, ride, blah blah blah...
Exactly my thoughts and experience.
I'm on my second F150 first one was a 2.7 this one is a 3.5. Both good engines but I favor the 2.7 with a 3.71 rear end. It had the same power as the 3.5 but better gas mileage
Did you buy the eb again cause you liked it better than the v-8?
@@richardscribben4352 yeah - the low end torque is what I really love about the eb. Low rpms maximum power output. drives & accelerates effortlessly.
Can confirm all points. I had a 22 XLT and it started to have transmission issues. Also front A pillar would rattle.
Had a 2022 and put 30k miles on it. Got my 2023 power boost in December of 2023. Truck runs and rides great. The rough transmission random issue in my 2022 is nonexistent as they did finally figure out what was happening to cause it.
Handling… my guess is they got a level kit truck which changes how they ride. My truck is smooth as can be. This is a complaint because Ford still uses a solid axle for trucks. Deal with it.
Well…. I’ve had a few Silverados since 2020. I actually think the 2020 was better built than the 23 I’m currently in. However the new interior is nice. It’s probably not long lasting and reliable but neither is Ford and Ram might be better but the maintenance cost calculations over 10 years is crazy! Toyota is not as great as it once was. I’d say the 2014-21 Toyota Tundra would probably be the best truck to purchase if you want good reliability and longevity with good fit and finish and quality. Otherwise just buy a new truck every few years and they probably won’t break down in that time.
I currently own a 2010 F-150 XLT Crew Cab with the 4.6 V8 engine after my VW Passat R-Line got totaled last year. It was a one owner with 118k miles and conditions were great. Put a set of new Michelin LTX tires and got the alignment done a month after I bought it. For being a 13 year old truck, the ride quality still impresses me. Couple of my friends complimented me on the conditions and ride quality. One of my friends, who drives a 2021 Tundra TRD Pro he purchased new, met with me to have brunch, and he said I want to drive your truck. After we did a little loop around the area we went to eat, he said, this old truck rides better than my Tundra. And he was working at Toyota headquarters. I also owned, well, leased a 2015 Silverado 1500 LT Double Cab with the 5.3 V8 back then. Best truck ever. Never had any unexpected repairs. Just regular maintenance done until about 50K miles. I traded because I was way over the miles for lease. You want your vehicle, in this case truck, to work well, treat it nicely and don’t drive like a jackass. Any vehicle is susceptible to have issues or being a lemon. Do I wish my old 2010 F-150 had some features my Passat had, like the killer Fender Sound System and Sunroof, absolutely. But it is not making my truck less of vehicle for not having those features.
50,000 miles is nothing to judge a vehicle on. One finds out how good a vehicle one has at 150,000 miles. By then that GM will almost certainly need a new transmission and that 5.3 will be on its last leg. An F150 with the 5.0 is just getting broken in at that point.
Correction, 10 year lifespan. My 2014 ecoboost still drives like butter. 211k miles.
@@derekjp6043 And you did not have to replace the turbos yet? Good for you. Hopefully you can get many more miles.
@@herbb8547 Not yet. Though, selling her since my boss prefers we drive newer trucks. Still running well. She was driven mostly on the highway before me so... probably part of why she's gone so long
@derekjp6043 A new truck sometimes has more problems than the used one. I once traded in a Ford Ranger for a Chevy Silverado. I went from a very dependable vehicle to a complete nightmare. That Chevy was in the shop at least once a week for the next two months. It was brand new. But came off the production line as a piece of junk.
🤔don’t buy an f150…..so what, buy a ram or a tonka transformer………yeah i don’t think so. I will buy an f150 over the chrysler junk anyday, regardless of all these alleged issues. The ecoboost in our 21 expedition has been solid and is a beast.
This day and age we are buying new vehicles that are nothing more than a computer with a pick up bed. Any of the makes can have all the issues from year to year.
I say buy lower grade trim levels to avoid all the bells/whistles nonsense that causes alot of trouble, but hey thats me.
I say those consumer reports are mainstream media bullshit and should be taken as such.
I guarantee f150 rules the market down here in south louisiana.
old ford owners have been cautioning people for half a decade or more.i quit buying them by 09.the great quality avalanche started not too long after.but my old fords are keepers.
A 6-month boycott on ALL new vehicles would help. Stop buying everything with wheels. Folks. WAIT! Watch manufacturers BEG us to come back!! 😮
My tundra is 10 years old and is very rust free. Toyota has done a good job of making a solid underbody frame platform.
I had a 2007 Sr5 and the bed (always covered with a Capt rusted thru on the floor just behind both wheel walls. Toyota replaced the entire bed. Thanks Toyota. So I bought a 2014 Limited. Loved it but guess what…same rust problem in the same two spots. This time Toyota refused to fix in any way. So I told em next truck will be aluminum. I bought a new 2022 XLT Ecoboost 3.5 v6 and so far so good. Time will tell.
Glad you have no rust issues. I must say I never had even one problem with Toyota driveline (5.7, tranny, transfer or diff’s) on either the 2007 or the 2014, and I pulled 24ft camper a bunch.
No issues with my 2015 5.0 v8
same. flawless truck.
This is what's happening when Marketing drives the show. Way too expensive now: Digital clusters (including all touch screens and fingertips knobs), too much gizmos, too much luxury, too much all over the place. Adding these price goes up. Bring back Previous clusters, bing back physical knobs, remove all unnecessary gizmos, and concentrate on build quality instead. A Single Cab 8ft bed v8 6spd auto F150 should cost less than 40k, not 60k+.
'23 Single Cab XL, 5.0 V8, 8ft bed, 10 speed auto, carpet and trailer tow package $39,795 on Ford's configurator now !!
This video did not age well. Toyota just recalled their junk turbo engine in the Tundra because they are failing in droves.
Everyone should know not to listen to Consumer Reports. Their data is gathered from subscribers and is very, very biased.
My 2021 f150 powerboost has been great with only a reflash for the trailer tow. Differential rust? I touch up my truck every year anyways with rustoleum. My transmission has been good. Mileage has been good even with my eibach lift and toyo at3's. My favorite f150 so far and I have owned seven over the years.
As the owner of a 23 F150 King Ranch, I’m frustrated with a number of quality issues that I’ve never had on any other vehicle I’ve owned… body panels are not aligned and gaps not uniform , paint has orange peel and poor dealer service experiences are among the issues I’ve experienced. I wouldn’t recommend.
Dealer experiences I can see, but the body panel alignment, gaps and orange peel are hard to believe frankly. Every recent F150 I’ve seen is perfect in all those regards. The Tundra on the other hand…..that was a mess in the body department.
Good luck, you spend that much money you deserve better.
It was cold and rainy when I took delivery…. I should have gave it a more thorough look over before taking it home. Ford fixed it under warranty. While at the dealer to address the fit and finish issues, oil changes, etc., I looked around and saw a few others w similar issues…most were ok, but a few were not. They’re were not doing well in the QC dept. when mine was manufactured, in January.
Now the current recall on 2021-2023 electonic parking brakes
Reliability is an issue with all brands, and now it's price gouging on top of it. Today's market is a hope to get one that will run, if not the manufacturer will be paying for a lot fixing. Nothing is built with quality anymore, after it's only designed for a 5 year life span.
Traded my 2020 Ram for a 2023 F150. Couldn’t be happier.
Opposite for me bought a new Ram 1500 classic got rid of my f150 couldn't be happier love the Ram
@@dennisrutherford6973 rams are great! But they suck too much gas for me
@dustinbjohnson I'm getting between 21 and 22mpg but I have the 3.6l in a 1500 classic 4x4 and running 91 octane fuel
@@dennisrutherford6973 oh yah that’s much better then the 12 my ram got. But I still prefer the twin turbo eco boost motor. It’s got tons of torque and power and feels so efficient. I average around 22 no matter how aggressive I drive it. My favorite motor out there personally
@@dustinbjohnson to many issues with the ecoboost I prefer naturally aspirated engines
1. I have a 23 f150 with a 5.0 and it’s been great
2. The ride quality does jump because of the rear axle.. I opted for the reliability of leaf springs.
3. I got a Ford bumper to bumper for 8 years for like 1600 bucks. I don’t have to worry about anything beyond mfg warranty.
4. Undersprayed with NH oil undercoating, surface rust issues no longer a problem and I got a $500 credit from the dealer when I pointed it out.
5.) You'll be getting a recall notice soon in mail for the electronic parking brake
@@Noypi54494 haha I don’t doubt that and I use it everyday
I have 2016 F150, only non routine maintenance was the starter having to be replaced. I have the 5.0 Coyote motor.
Before cylinder deactivation
When it comes down to it it’s the damn BS EPA ! That’s what is destroying reliability in vehicles today trying to meet their bullshit standards.
In December, I believe, CR rated the Powerboost F-150 the worst truck you could buy. I don't live or die by CR ratings but I was seriously considering that truck as a tow vehicle. I'm picking up my new Sierra 1500 later today.
Wow, you do know that the GM twins have recently been trashed by CR right? Our ‘22 F150 Powerboost is a fantastic tow vehicle. We absolutely love it. Good luck with your Sierra. I wonder if you talked to actual PB owners as well? I’ve owned lots of Silverados and had good luck with them too.
I hope you got the Duramax if you are towing much, otherwise the Powerboost was a way better choice. You just can’t beat the ecoboost for towing- low rpm, quiet and power for days.
My brother just got the Chevy dealer to buy his 2020 Silverado back under the lemon law. Looked nice but not reliable with trans problems. He just got his check. He is now buying a 2024 Ford Superduty.
You couldn’t me more wrong. I have a brand new f150 with 5.0. It drives and handles wonderfully. Best truck hands down!
Our 17 f150 was rock solid, new owner is a coworker. 147k miles now 1 water pump.
We purchased a 21’ eco boost, and just got rid of it at 47k miles.
-front axle seal replaced twice
-turbo oil drain seal leaking
-transmission shudder
-radio bugs out a bunch
-last straw was when radio froze (was still playing music but unresponsive) and during emergency stop in highway we lost trailer brakes when rv in front lost a chair.
While the f150 was at the dealer we got a 21 Titan for a rental. Needless to say we now have a 2022 Titan XD pro4x.
Got rude of a 21 ford eco boost couldn't keep it running 10k miles couldn't keep it out of the shop to sell it got it back after 6 months off and on sold it as fast as possible.
@@Garywhitetrumphobgobbler lmao
So far my 2017 has been rock solid to. I was worried about the new 10 speed transmission and 2nd gen 3.5l, but it hasn’t let me down yet. With today’s prices and interest rates I’m keeping it for the long haul.
Loving my 21XLT.
19,800 miles, towed 6500lbs over 300 miles today on interstate and really steep hilly back roads.
Runs strong, most comfortable vehicle every. Was a 30 year Toyota/Honda man. Couldn’t get a Tundra when I bought. So Ford won. No regrets, average over 20mpg lifetime manually calculated including over 2000 miles towing.
V8 power and efficiency, Baby!
Be very grateful my friend. My 2021 F-150 Raptor leaked water into the cab causing electrical issues, had a leaky turbo charger which caused it to burn up, and I had a shock go out all before 30,000 miles. Sold it at 36,040 miles thankfully with little loss.
@@SuperSnakePlissken Every manufacturer’s products have similar stories, nothing knew. Bad for you though; happy it worked out.
@@cwqrpportable Agreed. The goal is to go with the brand with the least problems and less expensive problems.
Being 70 years old and had subscriptions at two or three different times I have learned not to trust Consumer Reports. That goes for Motor Trend, Car and Driver and several other rags.
Interesting vid! What I read from the forums are mostly electronic issues. Haven’t heard anyone complain about their turbos (2.7 or 3.5). Some concerns on 3.5 cam phasers but previous generation issues were supposed to have been improved.
Fingers crossed my 22 5.0 keeps ticking along!!
My 2019 EB crapped out at 18k miles, in the shop for 3 weeks. Entire top end replaced. Got it back, sunroof issue, then transmission. Absolute junk.
What is an EB?
I think it's EB = Ecoboost, but of course there a smaller 2.7 unit also. Sorry to hear this after bragging about my 3.5 . We have a 2015 150 EB 268k on her. Still love the truck...
I have a friend who just paid $4000 to replace the turbos on his 3.5 Ecoboost engine. He had 140k miles on that truck. Otherwise, it's been a good truck for him.
All brands have issues. All this new tech just gives more shit to break. The materials are getting cheaper and they’re charging more money. My 22 Sierra was hopefully my last vehicle I’ll buy anytime soon.
I ordered a new 23' F150 3.5 eco boost Lariat last February, received it in late May. Mind you, this truck has 1,150 miles on it. About 4 weeks ago while on a routine drive as I was attempting to pass a car going 45 mph, I hit the accelerator gently and noticed I had lost about half of the engines HP and the check engine light came on immediately, took it to the dealership where I purchased it and they told me that one of the turbo charger shafts was broken in half! A month later, I'm still without my truck (parts on backorder)and I'm thinking seriously about enacting the "lemon law" with Ford. I paid way too much for this vehicle to be having motor problems already. I have been a loyal Ford guy for the last 40 years and for the most part, not many issues.☹
Do the lemon law now! You will regret waiting. It is way past a reasonable amount of time.
@@richardscribben4352 Ford really stepped up to the plate and settled it outside an actual "lemon law" claim. I'm still waiting for my new truck (2024) to be built but they allowed me to drive the Lariat (small per mile fee) until it arrives. Hat's off to Fords RAV team for making my situation right!👍
The 5.0 has cam timing issues. I work on a City fleet with Ford F150's. We've replaced turbos on the 3.5 ecoboost. There has been a switch to Silverados now. Already replaced three 5.3 engines in 2019-2020 models.
Yep I took my 2020 Platinum in today for cam shaft position sensor codes. The repair shop i’ve been going to for years switched them out but engine is still rattling. They told me the timing is messed up and if they were me, they would take it down and trade it in for something else. They said this is a common problem for these models. Also, the repair shop owner had the same truck as me at one point, and it happened to his as well with 37k miles on it. Mine only has 45k on it. Being that you work at a dealership what truck is the best out nowadays ? I’m afraid to go the gm route due to their issues with shaking. I love the 2023 ford limited. I think the issue is when ford went to 10 speed on these 5 liters.
These trucks ride very well.....but the price......🙄
I drive a 2020 F-150 with the 5.0L Coyote--so, far, it's been very reliable. Ford ruined the 5.0L in 2021 when they put cylinder deactivation on it. Cylinder deactivation is a crap technology--and that includes the Chrysler and GM engines. To be fair, I know people that have also had big problems with the Chrysler 5.7 Hemi with cylinder deactivation-related issues, as well as with GM engines. The GM 6.2 V8 has been a real dog for some people I know--one guy who had three new ones in GMC AT4's at his resort/ranch had two of the three shell out their engines below 30K miles. I have several friends with Ford Ecoboosts--they all have had problems, up to and including complete engine failures. I remain unconvinced that turbocharged gasoline engines will have the reliability and longevity of naturally aspirated engines. Of all of the 1/2 ton truck engines, the one that I think has the best reliability and longevity is the now-discontinued Toyota 5.7 V8. It's only weak spot was pretty awful fuel economy.
Just bought a 2021 Ford F-150 with 36000 miles on it. It seems to hae spent it's whole life in Michigan. No undercoating on the frame. No rust on the frame. I don't understand it, but I like it. I may undercoat it, but I will wait until I finish wiring it for my trailer camera.
My 2012 ecoboost v6 twin turbo F150 just turned 222k miles. Runs excellent.
I wouldn’t buy anything unless I NEEDED it. The more people boycott buying these new expensive vehicles, the faster the prices will drop! Just watch, all of a sudden there will be a “sale” and prices will drop along with interest rates.
F150 gen 3 5.0 had oil consumption issues, A lot of dummies didn't break them in right I feel, that motor was awesome for tuning handle 1000hp stock with on 3 TT kit! Same goes for gen 4 you need to get them tuned gets rid of skip shift and cylinder deactivation. Oz omega run any fuel with their tune but e85 made 409 rear wheel torque
I have owned Ford trucks since 1980.
Never any major problems. Some small repairs corrected same day they were taken in.
I also do high mileage and I will buy another when tired of my 2020 Super Duty.
No worries here! I absolutely will not pay 70 grand for a new f150 anyways! Ill replace the engine and tranny in my current truck. Whats insane is now you can buy a f350 for less money than a f150. Our local dealer has a f350 that has a 54 thousand dollar sticker. The f150 sitting next to it is 76 grand! This makes zero sense.
Had 3 F150s in this month on trade. One 2017, one 2021 one 2018. All 3.5L ecoboosts. All 3 have bad turbos , with cracked exhaust manifolds. 10k repair job.
a lot of people trade their problems away - who knows if they were maintained or just run into the ground
@@toddolson7273 Agreed, they definitely do that.
Ford should give away free puppies with every sale that way you don't have to walk home alone😅
@@daverohr2796 Yep - got mine. Named them Torque and Beast
Add the current electronic parking brake recall on 2021-2023 F150s and class action lawsuits on 10 speed
I lost confidence in Consumer Reports and dropped my subscription because of their obvious bias against all American car brands. I believe the data that they gather is good but their editorial bias comes out in their recommendations. Thanks for the report and keep up the good work!
Loving my 2023 F-150 STX 4x4 2.7L. Don’t really care what consumer reports says. Coming from a 2015 Ram 1500 5.7 that was an amazing truck. Hope this F150 serves me just as well.
I wired brushed the rear end and brushed Tremclad on it and it perfectly fine after 16 months in Canada with our winters.
I like the no rust body being aluminum.
Too bad the FRAME is STILL rust prone STEEL!
Stay away from Fords! My brother just had a 2021 F150 with a 5.0L Coyote motor just quite running. This guy does meticulous maintenance on all his farm equipment and vehicles and documents it all. Took the truck to the Ford dealership in Tulsa. 10 minutes later they tell him the truck (52,000 miles on it) needs a new motor. No explanation why EVERYTHING on the motor broke and it ALL needs to be replaced. He asks to speak to the technician. They say, "No". He laughs and walks back into the Ford maintenance shop and begins asking this technician what he did to diagnose the truck and what EXACTLY is wrong with the truck. Technician says, "I just pulled the codes and gave them to the maintenance boss. He decided what to do. He takes the truck back to the farm, does a bit of research, pulls the valve covers, and finds ONE broken valve spring....ONE. A $10 fix. Ford wanted him to buy a $7,000 motor. Wait...I forgot to tell you that Ford wouldn't even discuss a warranty fix, because the truck was 2,000 miles over the 50,000-mile warranty limit. Real nice, Ford! So, because he overdoes everything, he bought a whole new head and valve train to replace ONE broken valve spring. He buys the Ford maintenance manual to ensure he does the work to Ford specifications. After replacing the head 3X and NOT being able to time the truck correctly, he gets a little frustrated. My brother calls around and finds a retired Ford technician who agrees to time the truck for $1,000. He does it in 1/2 a day. My brother asks him what he did wrong? The retired Ford technician says Ford purposely left the most important step in timing the truck out of the Ford maintenance manual my brother paid an arm and a leg for to ensure he did it to Ford specs. The technician says, "You have to have this special tool and load the #2 cylinder by rotating the cam 90 degrees before you replace the timing chain. Total cost to fix ONE valve spring, which is apparently a big problem on these 5.0 Coyote motors (bad Chinese steel), on a Ford truck with 52,000 miles = $2,000. Yeah, he sold that POS and Ford lost a customer for life. More importantly, I plan to tell this story to everyone who will listen until the day I die. Ford Motor Company is managed by a bunch of greedy assholes who DO NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT and will try to rip you off at every turn. If you do business with Ford Motor Company, you deserve what you get...a pile of garbage built by a company that will not stand behind their vehicles. Sell that piece of crap and buy a GMC with a 6.6L DURAMAX. It's the best diesel engine made today...period...full stop. Go watch the YT videos Gale Banks made on the 6.6L DURAMAX. Y'all seem like decent folks, and I sure want to see you succeed with your YT channel. I like watching the adventures. Go buy a truck you can count on. Go buy a new GMC truck with a 6.6L DURAMAX. They are literally indestructible.
I have a 2022….rear suspension squeaks and cannot figure out why and ford says it’s normal….rear breaks squeak with 15k miles and ford says it’s normal….radio screen went dark and no longer working and ford said the sync module that went out is a common failure and it’s on back order…damn🤦🏻♂️
Sorry to hear... sounds like you got a truck that was made on the 3rd shift, during a holiday.
If you have squeaking, check your tail gate ..I had the same problem with mine and I could figure out what it was till one day I was stepping on my rear bumper to get in the back and had to grab the tail gate and heard a squeak ,that sound the same we when I was driving over bumps ...check it out for yourself give the tail gate a pull back and forth see if that helps
I have a 2017 3.5 ecoboost with 50k and no issues and no cam phaser rattle yet 🤞
They (People) recommend checking them out at around 130,000 is what I heard. It's a part of maintenance.
I did watch a YT video of a transmission tech rearing down both GM and Ford 10 speeds and there is more of a difference in hardware as well. The tech found plenty of areas for future problems.
Tim, I just bought a 2023 f150 powerboost king ranch. Every thing that could be painted underneath, differential, hangers, everything frame related is painted. Maybe ford heard the input from people like you. Good job
I have seen a car hauler with new Ford F150. You can clearly see the bottom of the trucks. No rust...
Hopefully!
I have a 2018 F-150. 5.0 with 47,000 miles. I’ve had zero issues other than the normal engine noise and oil consumption for this year model, lol. I don’t mind adding 2 quarts of oil between 5k oil changes. It took some getting used to too, but I just tell myself it is the nature of the beast. If I have any major issues then I may consider something else but it seems that all brands are having issues, I would be stumped on my next choice. Maybe I will buy an 70, 80’s model and build it???
I’m curious what changed in ride and handling. Did others just improve or did F-150 get worse in that regard.
Solid question.
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I bought a 2023 f150 3.5 ecoboost loving it great on fuel, and no issues yet knock on wood
I will let the Whole World Know when 1 of seals in the Turbos goes out in my brother's 2015 2.7L "Twin Turbo" F-150. He is Currently at 216,000. Yeah. It cost me a little bit of Money at 160,000 Miles cause it dropped a small Corner of Dorito size piece of exhaust valve. It shot out the exhaust. My theory Is this happened because he didn't maintenance the Cam Phaser at such a High Mileage & time was out. That's just the way it Is with those Modular Engines I think. Yea, i just had a Transmission Speed Output Sensor put in it. Still Going. He got him a Real Cubicle Job Now. So I think he's about done Ubering. Probably as soon as he gets his 1st Paycheck.
A friend of mine has a 2013 F150 3.5 Ecoboost and has 125,000 miles, no issues and completely reliable. Of course he does maintain it very well.
261000 miles on my 2011 f150 with no problems i bought it new. 5.0 engine screw 4x4
My 2022 f150 is great. Good ride, comfortable, plenty of power. Change your oil the truck will be fine.
I don't know, I have a 2021 Ford F150 XL supercrew with the 3.5 echoboost and it runs great, Other than 2 recalls haven't had any issues with engine and transmission.
I switched from being a lifetime ford to a Toyota 2 years ago when fords nonchalant attitude at their service department became obvious. I miss the cooling seats... NOTHING ELSE!
By the way, I traded a 23 ram laramie, I only had for three months. It was ok to a point, but it just didnt seem as solid as the ford, kinda subpar for a truck. The ford feels more substantial to me. Hope it doesnt bite me in the butt!!!
Your comments echoed by no one ever. Especially not someone who's really driven both, as I do every day oh, there is no comparison and ride and comfort between the two. Enjoy your frequent trips to the dealer for recall
@@ubeuonly WTF dude did I hit a nerve?? Ive had 5 Rams and 3 f150s. The Ram is a great truck, READ my comment. The f150 powerboost I have has an edge with the hybrid. If Ram would get their crap together I might go back except for the fact Rams have the largest in crease in price over the past 5 years. And BTW I own stock in stillantis and sold my ford stock. just sayin
@@richardlively1666 as I said every magazine and every reviewer and everybody I've ever known it's giving both have said the ride of the Coil Springs is better. But I guess your ass is different. That was my comments, number one in reliability 3 years in a row better options and less ordinary..and discounted 10% not like the square truck dealer. Air suspension. A real audio system. Not just a big afterthought screen like ford had to do to copy ram. Check out that aspect ratio on the Ford camera. Not even close. It's an afterthought truck built to a price point. But let's line up to get the McDonald's of trucks. Did I mention 100k on original brakes on my ram??will go another 50k. I change f150s at 50k did I mention also artificial engine noise piped into the audio system to make it sound like a real truck? I could go on and on for hours and maybe some slump will go out and drive a ram before he falls into line buying Every Man's truck. Mission accomplished and one less lemming of future trumper. U hit anerve..ubeuonly. not who they say u should be
Ford people are Ford people and will always buy them regardless. I’ve always been a GM person just because of ride and seat comfort, I have owned Fords. I’ve given them several trials over the years and always had issues with them. I take great care and keep maintenance items completed as recommended by manufacturer. I’ve owned an F-150, 2- Explorers, and a Bronco. All had major oil leaks just past 36,000 miles(out of warranty), 1 cam shaft bearing failure at 60,000, 2 transmissions with torque converter problems. The torgue converter’s went out under warranty, one happened on the way home from purchasing. So Fords are not on my menu any longer, just got rid of my last explorer, probably the best of the lot, 2015 with eco boost, made it to 70,000 before valve covers starting leaking and two wheel bearings. Traded for my first different than GM or Ford ever, got a platinum Nissan Pathfinder. We will see how this goes!
Ram leapfrogged everyone with a 2019 model M it's also the most reliable, and funny you should mention two seats in the GM, I've seen dozens of blogs complaining about seat comfort in General Motors trucks
My 150 had about 100k and mechanic had said the one turbo was starting to leak oil so he recommended to replace them and i later found out you can replce the seals which is like a couple hundred bucks compared to 3 to 4k 😢. But beings i like some power i opted to up grade turbos for a size bigger than ford raptor which gave me 550 hp the truck is not head studded and i sold it to a buddy who uses it as a pulling work truck everyday and its still running great and has 168k now. I put a bigger intercooler on though to keep it safe. I also had a racing shift kit installed the truck will easily keep up with a boosted and tuned wrx subaru😅😅😅😅
Great post....and timely.
Loved my first ever Ford; a 2018 F150 Lariat SuperCrew Sport with 5.0 V8......UNTIL I discovered an excessive oil consumption issue.
This is widespread with the 2018 - 2020 Coyote 5.0 V8.
I had 67k a few months ago when I noticed it was using 2+ qts of oil in 3,500 miles....which is the mileage I always change my oil at, instead of the 7k miles Ford recommends.
Had a tsb 'fix' for this issue applied and monitored the past 3,500 miles after a fresh dealer oil change (always use the dealer BTW)..... 2 qts low again.
Online forums seem to point out the TSB doesn't work.
Starting a dealer oil consumption test under the extended power train warranty Ford was nice enough to give me for free due to this issue...... But I doubt there is any real fix for this. We will see....
Probably my first and last Ford ever. 5.0 was supposed to be a tried and true engine....and that is why I chose it when I ordered it new.....turns out - it is junk!
Had the same issue with my 19 lariat. 5.0. Got rid of it. I figured if it was sucking that much oil I would have to do plugs more frequently and cats.
The tried and true 5.0, was in the early 90’s