I agree with you about feeling out the saw. Sometimes it takes me a while to be like “OK!” A good port job seems to get better the more you run it until it doesn’t haha
I run a lot of the SP33 X-CUT chains on the .325 pitch saw I own. They have been great chains. A little price heavy but worth it. Out of all the saws I have, I think they're all running different brands of chain on them right now. I enjoy testing different styles and brands of chain.
I actually use the Stihl RS chain on my old Jonsered semi-pro. It just eats through the wood. Especially with all the ironwood I’ve been cutting lately. Keep rocking out these awesome videos. Thank you so much.
@@novicelumberjack that thing is a tank. After using for five hours cutting firewood, my forearms are dead. But out of the four saws I own, it’s the most reliable one.
Yeah man exactly how you described on the Vespa is what happened with the 400c. Just totally unexpected. Sound changed enough my ground guy noticed it as I did running it. Really cool how it happened.
I agree! I live all power saws but a lot I won’t say all but a lot of stihl owners think that stihl beats everything! Nice video! I do a lot of hard wood fire wood cutting I like the stihl chain best myself. I have a few loops of it square filed. Should try to square file some and see how it works.
Great video! And good comparisons! The only thing I’ve noticed with some loggers Is that they will buy 100 foot spool of say EXL chain but they’ll put it on their Simington grinder and put their own custom square ground grind into it, Which is nothing like the out of the box grind you get I am by far no expert in square ground chain but I know that there’s too many variables in that grinding But as always i enjoy your videos! Take care
Mods. Lmao. Oh my God I forgot about those. Skinny tie, oxford shirt. Clove cigarettes 🤣. I was class of '93. The Mod fad was Huge when I was in junior & senior high. Hilarious, lol
The C-series oregon square ground chains are converted from round as you’d expect. During this process they don’t take the rakers down, so they’re probably 15 thousandths stock. Also they do a top beak on some cutters which don’t cut very well. Thanks for the video!
I can’t stand Stihl 3/8 but the only .325 chain worth buying is the Stihl RS..When it’s sharp it’s just friggin flat out fast chain. Excellent video and content.
Great comparison👍🏻 with some surprising results😯 the only unmistakable, near instant increase in 2t power I've experienced was my CS-590! On about the 8th tank. Tinman caught it on video with the 268/272 giveaway saw and Buckin caught it with his 500i. I wouldn't doubt it one bit if stihl doesn't atleast limit timing for a certain amount of time, in m-tronic saws🤔
To be honest. Out of the four saws I own. My most reliable one is my old Jonsered 49 semi pro. I’ve had it for three years and the only thing I’ve had to do with it is tune it up every year. Unlike my husky or my Stihl, those alway get electrical issues.
I said the same thing out of that Oregon factory square grind. Pretty horrible. With what you can pick up from videos between Buckin and Inbred Jed on Jacob Rogers channel, you can file square ground better than the factory Oregon. That stuff really disappointed me
I own a stihl AV090 and a AV041, 1 craftsman,2 poulans, 4 Macculloughs, 4 homelites, plus 1 Jonesered 2255 and I use the Jonesered but I like running the old macs
All I can say is a good square grind Oregon, rakers down 10 thou is the fastest chain I've ever used and when I'm good and make a God chain its incredible ..RS is good thou. End of the day its other things like how you move your wood and your splitter ... how many cubes you can stack a day.
I honestly think unless you’re an expert at hand filing, you will never really see a noticeable difference in speed between any of these chains. You will only feel the difference in the wood in terms of smoothness. Sometimes taking 0.002 off a raker or a tooth can make a chain smoothen out and bite less but it’s different in every type of wood.
I use square n also a proficient handfiler but it isn't very good in hardwoods in my experience..however it does shine in softwoods..I've had good luck w archer,farmertec,n exl..
I like Husqvarna saws too but I do like some Stihl saws like the old 044 and 046 and the 460,461,462 but thats it and I hate Stihls prices for what you pay for there 461 or 462 you can buy a 90cc saw from Husqvarna
I have had that light switch moment with a echo 590 then ran out fuel after that moment filled back up after I took a 20 -30 min break from cutting and went start it and right away could till something wasn't right went trying pull on string to start it felt little looser pulling so took up to my echo dealer and explained what happened so they went through it called me and said piston went out went up there and ya piston was in pretty rough shape but not as bad as as though would be and they said what they could see what might happen was some fueling problem with it and they wouldn't warranty it because of the fueling or air leak causing it and also I didn't buy it from them saw was just 4 months old guy I got it from wife bought him for Christmas and I got from him a month later he said he used it like for 30 minutes has sell because lost job and had pay light bill before they got cut off I ran it for 2 -3 months ran great was starting up every time 2-3 pulls then just like light switch gain power and they went the piston and cylinder did adjust carb or nothing was running same fuel that was running saws I had for years before it so ya sometimes light switch moment nice then other times things break
Send buckin two chains and ask him to do the baby c and a square ground and get it back to you then do these test. Would love to see that and it would get you a bunch of views because buckin was involved
I would LOVE to do that, but understand what it's like to have a million different projects of his own, he ain't got the time for me. Would be great though.
We’ll it would be a great video for him as well to kind of collaborate and help a smaller channel I’ll send some messages his way and you do the same let’s see if we can’t make it happen. Your my favorite channel man I want you to blow up and do well I try and send money when I have extra to send to help the channel. Would be great experiment showing how so many years of experience plays a roll in sharpening.
And so I went back to my huskys after that have had several of my friends that also do firewood have same problem with the 590s one friend said he has 3 of them all did same thing so ya it socks when that happens and by way I'm Nacogdoches TX so we have same wood u got the hard oak elm some hickory and my favorite wood gum and ash
@@novicelumberjack lol and at moment it in peices sitting in a laundry basket been sitting for couple years now so ya if what it u can have it not sure what's all there if u have Facebook hit me up at Rian Robertson this is her husband
I'll sell it to u cheap like $30 figure that's fare lots of good parts on it still other than piston and cylinder which u might be able to clean up if not to toasted
My echoes and xp series Husqvarna are by far superior when it comes to the work I do I sell firewood all fall and winter long they never let me down other then water and fouled plug being culprits to finiky operation.
@@troybeans34 i see STIHL having problems Just like any brand, not to mention the cheap models! They used to be among the best saws 20 years ago, today they are just another chainsaw brand, their price Is not justified, i Also found Echo Is among the best from quality for his price, at the end today all parts are made in china for all manifacturers, avoid plastic saws with stupid price tags🤣
@@gillespriod5509 indeed I went with xp do to the sturdy chassis and grown to love the saws I run the 372xp non xtorqe 394xp 550xpmk2 562xp 592xp lately the 5 series been doing all the work each cs400 for small stuff and cs590. Great saws I need to pick up pace on 3 series xp they been sitting to long lol
I agree with you about feeling out the saw. Sometimes it takes me a while to be like “OK!” A good port job seems to get better the more you run it until it doesn’t haha
I run a lot of the SP33 X-CUT chains on the .325 pitch saw I own. They have been great chains. A little price heavy but worth it. Out of all the saws I have, I think they're all running different brands of chain on them right now. I enjoy testing different styles and brands of chain.
Awesome video!!! I’m intrigued at the results.
Very interesting results. Great demonstration Boady🤙🏽
I actually use the Stihl RS chain on my old Jonsered semi-pro. It just eats through the wood. Especially with all the ironwood I’ve been cutting lately. Keep rocking out these awesome videos. Thank you so much.
Thank you. The old Johnnie's are still excellent saws today.
@@novicelumberjack that thing is a tank. After using for five hours cutting firewood, my forearms are dead. But out of the four saws I own, it’s the most reliable one.
Yeah man exactly how you described on the Vespa is what happened with the 400c. Just totally unexpected. Sound changed enough my ground guy noticed it as I did running it. Really cool how it happened.
Hahaha. I fell out my chair laughing. " let's see what this piece shit will do."
I agree! I live all power saws but a lot I won’t say all but a lot of stihl owners think that stihl beats everything! Nice video! I do a lot of hard wood fire wood cutting I like the stihl chain best myself. I have a few loops of it square filed. Should try to square file some and see how it works.
4:54 YES!!!! Couldn’t agree more!!!
Great video! And good comparisons!
The only thing I’ve noticed with some loggers Is that they will buy 100 foot spool of say EXL chain but they’ll put it on their Simington grinder and put their own custom square ground grind into it, Which is nothing like the out of the box grind you get
I am by far no expert in square ground chain but I know that there’s too many variables in that grinding
But as always i enjoy your videos!
Take care
Thanks Tim!
Mods. Lmao. Oh my God I forgot about those. Skinny tie, oxford shirt. Clove cigarettes 🤣. I was class of '93. The Mod fad was Huge when I was in junior & senior high. Hilarious, lol
The C-series oregon square ground chains are converted from round as you’d expect. During this process they don’t take the rakers down, so they’re probably 15 thousandths stock. Also they do a top beak on some cutters which don’t cut very well. Thanks for the video!
That makes a lot of sense. So I'll look to cut down the rakers and re-test it.
@@novicelumberjack not trying to criticize man! Thanks for the reply. I know you can never make the commenters happy lol.
All good bro. It will make a good video!
I can’t stand Stihl 3/8 but the only .325 chain worth buying is the Stihl RS..When it’s sharp it’s just friggin flat out fast chain. Excellent video and content.
Great comparison👍🏻 with some surprising results😯 the only unmistakable, near instant increase in 2t power I've experienced was my CS-590! On about the 8th tank. Tinman caught it on video with the 268/272 giveaway saw and Buckin caught it with his 500i. I wouldn't doubt it one bit if stihl doesn't atleast limit timing for a certain amount of time, in m-tronic saws🤔
Sp33g is a very good chain for what it is. Very impressed.
Same here. Very impressive chain. I just wish Husqvarna would make the C83 in a .325 version. That would be soooo fast cutting!
I just got a square hand file to start learning with. In softwood it really makes a difference but I haven’t tried in hardwood yet.
Awesome content as always 👌 brother!!!
Appreciate it!
Loved that story
Bad ass intro man
Thats a bad ass jonsered bar
To be honest. Out of the four saws I own. My most reliable one is my old Jonsered 49 semi pro. I’ve had it for three years and the only thing I’ve had to do with it is tune it up every year. Unlike my husky or my Stihl, those alway get electrical issues.
I said the same thing out of that Oregon factory square grind. Pretty horrible. With what you can pick up from videos between Buckin and Inbred Jed on Jacob Rogers channel, you can file square ground better than the factory Oregon. That stuff really disappointed me
My first MC was a 73 175 Yamaha Enduro! Loved that bike! Wrecked it at least 8 times! LOL
I had EXACTLY that bike a couple years ago. Estate sale find. Sold it to a young kid for his first bike. Fon little machine.
@@novicelumberjack Yeah, sold mine and bought a 69 BSA Firebird Scrambler!
I really want to try c83 chain.. Tend to go for stihl rs just because there is a dealer I can walk to from work
I own a stihl AV090 and a AV041, 1 craftsman,2 poulans, 4 Macculloughs, 4 homelites, plus 1 Jonesered 2255 and I use the Jonesered but I like running the old macs
All I can say is a good square grind Oregon, rakers down 10 thou is the fastest chain I've ever used and when I'm good and make a God chain its incredible ..RS is good thou. End of the day its other things like how you move your wood and your splitter ... how many cubes you can stack a day.
Now I’m just waiting for the punchline 😋
I honestly think unless you’re an expert at hand filing, you will never really see a noticeable difference in speed between any of these chains. You will only feel the difference in the wood in terms of smoothness. Sometimes taking 0.002 off a raker or a tooth can make a chain smoothen out and bite less but it’s different in every type of wood.
I use square n also a proficient handfiler but it isn't very good in hardwoods in my experience..however it does shine in softwoods..I've had good luck w archer,farmertec,n exl..
I like Husqvarna saws too but I do like some Stihl saws like the old 044 and 046 and the 460,461,462 but thats it and I hate Stihls prices for what you pay for there 461 or 462 you can buy a 90cc saw from Husqvarna
Exactly. I got my 592xp for right t $1,200. They are asking over $300 more for the 661 or 662 (don't know) and $400 more for a 500i. Redonculous
Square grind response is funny🤪🤪🤪🤪🤣🤣
I couldn't friggen believe it!
Thanks!
You bet!
I have had that light switch moment with a echo 590 then ran out fuel after that moment filled back up after I took a 20 -30 min break from cutting and went start it and right away could till something wasn't right went trying pull on string to start it felt little looser pulling so took up to my echo dealer and explained what happened so they went through it called me and said piston went out went up there and ya piston was in pretty rough shape but not as bad as as though would be and they said what they could see what might happen was some fueling problem with it and they wouldn't warranty it because of the fueling or air leak causing it and also I didn't buy it from them saw was just 4 months old guy I got it from wife bought him for Christmas and I got from him a month later he said he used it like for 30 minutes has sell because lost job and had pay light bill before they got cut off I ran it for 2 -3 months ran great was starting up every time 2-3 pulls then just like light switch gain power and they went the piston and cylinder did adjust carb or nothing was running same fuel that was running saws I had for years before it so ya sometimes light switch moment nice then other times things break
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If you go to a gtg square will beat round but the square guys spend hours working on the square chain.Out of the box X-cut will out cut square
That's been my experience.
Ace Cafe, do the Ton!
He'll yeah man! You know what's up!
Send buckin two chains and ask him to do the baby c and a square ground and get it back to you then do these test. Would love to see that and it would get you a bunch of views because buckin was involved
I would LOVE to do that, but understand what it's like to have a million different projects of his own, he ain't got the time for me. Would be great though.
We’ll it would be a great video for him as well to kind of collaborate and help a smaller channel I’ll send some messages his way and you do the same let’s see if we can’t make it happen. Your my favorite channel man I want you to blow up and do well I try and send money when I have extra to send to help the channel. Would be great experiment showing how so many years of experience plays a roll in sharpening.
And so I went back to my huskys after that have had several of my friends that also do firewood have same problem with the 590s one friend said he has 3 of them all did same thing so ya it socks when that happens and by way I'm Nacogdoches TX so we have same wood u got the hard oak elm some hickory and my favorite wood gum and ash
Sure you didn't have it running too lean? Sucks that dealerships won't fix it unless you bought it from them. You could send it to me!
@@novicelumberjack lol and at moment it in peices sitting in a laundry basket been sitting for couple years now so ya if what it u can have it not sure what's all there if u have Facebook hit me up at Rian Robertson this is her husband
I'll sell it to u cheap like $30 figure that's fare lots of good parts on it still other than piston and cylinder which u might be able to clean up if not to toasted
Stihl saws professional lol why are they plastic chassis trash crank bearings 🤔
STIHL cheap line Is actually no better than Poulan and cheapo china saws but shhhht! Dont tell the fanboys🤣
I can't stand stihl the last one I used for contract once it got up to temp and turn it off I spent more time trying to start it than running it.
My echoes and xp series Husqvarna are by far superior when it comes to the work I do I sell firewood all fall and winter long they never let me down other then water and fouled plug being culprits to finiky operation.
@@troybeans34 i see STIHL having problems Just like any brand, not to mention the cheap models! They used to be among the best saws 20 years ago, today they are just another chainsaw brand, their price Is not justified, i Also found Echo Is among the best from quality for his price, at the end today all parts are made in china for all manifacturers, avoid plastic saws with stupid price tags🤣
@@gillespriod5509 indeed I went with xp do to the sturdy chassis and grown to love the saws I run the 372xp non xtorqe 394xp 550xpmk2 562xp 592xp lately the 5 series been doing all the work each cs400 for small stuff and cs590. Great saws I need to pick up pace on 3 series xp they been sitting to long lol