EZ30 Swapped Subaru Legacy | 6spd RWD!
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2019
- We did it! From a daydream idea to reality. Howling H6 Ez30 engine, 6 speed rwd transmission from a Subaru BRZ swapped into a 1998 Legacy GT. Standard on the outside, anything but, on the inside. It's been a little under a year since breaking ground on this project, and now we have a unique, great sounding fun to drive car that didnt cost a whole lot of money. We couldn't be happier with it.
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America really got the short end of the stick when it came to the H6. In Australia we got the gen 4 with the 3.0R Spec B trim, which had an EZ30 mk2, 6 speed manual, Bilstein suspension, etc. Fantastic car to drive and even came as a wagon.
I agree the 2nd gen legacy gt is the sweetest body style. I found that out in 2011 when i saw one in a junkyard and just had to sit in it. Told myself i'd own one eventually. Found one manual for cheaps *blown headgasket* changed it. Now i finally got one.
This blows my mind. I would have never thought to try mating that trans to an EZ30. So many possibilities! This makes me want an EZ-swapped 86.
The good news is the EZ/EJ motors drop into the engine bay and bolt to the cross member.
Been wanting to do that build for years now, just don't have the money. :'(
Ez36 motors go for 1.2 to 2k. So it's pretty cheap. The fact that it mounts to the trans and cross member means you dont have to spend 1k on a trans adapter, mount and drive shaft, nor another 800 to 1k on an engine mount kit. At this point its routing cooling lines, exhaust, and wiring up an aftermarket ECU. So maybe another 4k at most.
Oh I mean for a BRZ shell, hahaha.
@@resuort Do you mean that EZ bolts into BRZ cross member ? Do you have any link ?
Thanks bro
We will be uploading an in-depth video on the swap, and what modifications were required for fitment, electronics etc.
Pretty awesome! I actually have a similar plan for my upcoming crazy Subaru swap. Release the final result video first, then show all the in depth bits. You really ended up with an awesome car here. Love the noise, RWD fits the look, just sweet all around.
sweet build man! I'm currently starting a rwd scoob build and am surprised that a lot of frs trans can be used. how is the shifter placement?
Awesome. Wanted to 6 speed swap my SVX but STi trans is waaaaay too expensive! BRZ ftw
I just bought a second gen legacy L awd and i want to do a turbo ez30 swap but do an sti 6 speed trans.
@@jesses6378 Sounds like a really sweet configuration
I rewatch this vid from time to time, dreaming of an h6 swapped brz
What a crazy combo, not a whole lot of flashy parts and huge HP numbers, just the creativity is what really did it for me. Thanks for sharing.
yeah but its a pretty light car so the numbers dont have to be crazy
Love it, words cannot describe how badly I want a manual H6.
JSYK: It's easier to convert an auto H6 to a manual, than it is to stick an H6 into another car.
@@bujin5455 how so? I have an ll bean with no paper work but the car runs immaculate and I was thinking of throwing the motor in a forester or whatever I can get my hands on
@@paydroguapp What do you mean how so? What do you want me to do, explain all of the steps required for both, so you can see that it's ten times as much work to swap an engine platform than it is to do a manual conversion? When you swap and engine you actually have to get the thing to run! So not only do you have to get it into an engine bay, which might not have been setup for it, AND get everything else in there as well (like the radiator), but you have to get all of the wiring to work, you have to get an ECU that can run it (and run it in that car), an ECU that isn't going to have immobilization problems, if you are using a stock ECU designed for the engine (which came with an auto) you still have to get the ECU to be OK operating the engine under load in what would be considered "neutral". Have to make sure you have proper fueling. Have to get new ECU you're using for your H6 to talk to all of the car's H4 stuff. Still have to make sure the engine bolts up to the trans in question. Just pulling and replacing an engine with the same engine is a pretty big task, to say nothing of putting an engine there that wasn't meant to be there.
Compare that with going manual on a car that has the engine you like. You need to pull and replace the transmission. So the new trans needs to mount to the engine, so you might need an adapter plate, you might need a custom mount. Though, not likely in this case for either, as Subaru is pretty big on standardization. Then there is the question of the drive line out to the rear diff (the two transmissions are unlikely to be the same length). Worse case, assuming you can't cobble something together, you might need a custom drive line. (But honestly, you probably don't.) Then you need to install a three peddle kit, and you need to run and position your hydraulics. Not really a huge issue, maybe some very light fab work. Then depending on the car, you may need to install a resistor or something into the wiring harness to convince the ECU to run the engine in neutral.
The simple reality is this: An engine is a very complicated piece of kit that relies on many systems and infrastructure to run, and you have to get all of that right for the engine to work. A manual transmission is a very simple bit of kit, thus there are far fewer factors that have to be accounted for.
@@bujin5455 considering they don’t make a manual transmission for the ez30 that I’m aware of and if they do have fun getting it. You’re still going to have to use all f4 stuff…. With that being said you’d obviously use everything h6 for the engine harness and mounts and radiator and bell housing is the same so no. A manual swap on an h6 car would 100% not be easier than to throw an h6 from a donor car into a manual f4 shell
@@paydroguapp I've only done both multiple times (converted autos to manuals, and put engines in cars they didn't come with), yeah, I totally don't know what I'm talking about. What you're saying makes no sense. Make a manual for the ez30??? That has nothing to do with it. A manual is a VERY simple mechanism, rotational torque goes in one side, get's scaled up or down, then rotational torque goes out the back side, and there are some hydraulics to control the clutch. The MAJOR "unique" difficulties with doing a manual conversion will have to do with your drive line, as if the manual is a different length, there will be a different length to the rear diff. You also have to account for a shifter, and if the CAR didn't come with a manual, the body might not want to accommodate the shift linkage (some cutting may be required), and you might not have cute plastic bits for your shifter (so you might have to do some interior fabbing). Then there is the problem of getting the ECU to be OK with the manual, but you're going to have that same problem if you stick said engine into a car with a manual, so that's sixes. Next you have to setup your peddles, no big issue really.
Talking about putting an H6 into an Impreza for instance (which I have done). First off, you can't run the H6 off of the Impreza ECU. Nor is it compatible with the Impreza's chassis harness. In my case, I ended up going with a Haltech Elite 2500 with a custom iWire harness, still difficult to get everything in the car to completely work. You try to stick your Outback ECU into an Impreza, that will be an uphill battle, one you might lose. That Outback ECU is not going to like your Impreza immobilization system, so you're going to have to swap all of that. It's very difficult to get an EZ30 to fit under the hood of an Impreza, mine required custom cooling routing to make happen, which resulted in aluminum welding.
But please, by all means, you go do both (an engine swap and manual conversion) and get back with me regarding which was easier. Because I have done both, and engine swaps are ALWAYS harder than you think they'll be, always take more time than you think they will, and always cost more than you think they will, especially when you are changing platforms. Manual swaps are SO MUCH more straight forward, it's night and day.
Love that you are using these coils, it’s what I run and as I always say, I’m impressed with the budget coils
This made me laugh out loud. I dig this chav and his car. I've got the 2003 Legacy Outback H6 AWD auto which is such a capable car around the farm here in muddy old Kent UK, but it's great to see these talented dudes ragging the format and creating such a unique set-up; and it sounds the nuts too. Well done chaps. You made an old duffer very happy...
Did I see you in Wingham a few weeks ago? Just wondering. I was in my 2005 Legacy Spec. B. I tried to wave, but...
Love the video and build and man you are such a joy to watch, just laughing and stuff, genuine dude. 👊
Great video and cool project!
Amazing build. Very inspiring. Want to do H6 swap to my 98' SUS. Keep building guys 💪
Nice build! Sounds like a Porsche. Great sleeper.
This is sweet man! Great job, I currently have an 01 Outback H6 VDC as a daily and also a JDM EZ30D in my shop. I'll change all gasket and some components. After watching this I getting more encourage to build something, I thought about throwing it into a Forester 5sp manual or Impreza, will see. Hope you'll posting more videos and some acceleration 0-60 times from this machine.
Sick build. One of the best 👍
Yeah boi! I think I'll be doing this to my daily. Will keep the 4wd though, since snow and daily driving etc. Already got the motor, just need a donor shell with the wiring.
2nd gen life yo!
Wow its rare to find others that have such enthusiasm for that 2nd gen legacy, Ive got my 96 outback and IMO its the best car for me. I love that ej22 but the ez30 swap sounds AMAZING, i wonder if it would mate up right
Really cool build!
Subbed! I'm starting to plan out an EZ36 swap into my brz and this answered a lot of questions concerning the bellhousing. This car is awesome!
So, how did it go? :-)
Any updates on this?
i LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS
Wow you’re a legend... I mean I know you built a legend but u are the real legend! Do a wagon with the same set up please
Nicely done!
awesome build i have a 3.0r
Oh yeah. The H6 makes such an amazing sound.
Those old legacies are super sweet
Hey, sweet car man. I have an 03 WRX that I put in a BRZ trans and an r200 rear diff from a 300zx(which took the most time, lots of machine work but it's been super solid)...
How does this not have 1.2 million views yet
Very cool. I have a 2000 Outback with a Manual and EJ25. I have been wanting to mate a EZ30 to my 5 speed. Probably break the transmission, but it will be fun in the process.
This is a great video, I’ve been planning to put an FRS trans into my Forester mated to its FB25. Maybe potential for an EZ swap in the future. Legos!!
Beautiful!!!
I've got a gen 1 legacy GT 5spd wagon and did a gen 3 h6 conversion and it's sycotic ...it's really is brutal and I'm thinking of turboing it ..mine drifts like a rwd but it's awd..I'm running all sti gears and b4 bilsteins
What?! No burnout footage?? ;) Beautiful build.
This is awesome. I'm building the exact same car with the exact same motor. I'm keeping the awd with a dog box trans though.
Thats not the same. He went 2wd so the motor isn't as bogged down with all the friction of awd. What I am wandering about is what did he use for the front hubs
I’m glad I’m not the only one with the power steering pump ruining the exhaust note on my h6
how difficult would it be to swap an EZ series engine into a brz? Seeing as the trans almost bolts up and assuming engine mounts would be similar would it mostly be a wiring/ecu issue?
I have that same car in my driveway! I would love to modify it like this.
Felicidades. Así sería el auto de mis sueños
I am in the process of doing this same exact swap got everything to do it for $350 the car was free handed down from my dad with a blown headgasket
"Only 160,000 miles on it"
Barely broken-in.
Outstanding
You said the drive shaft was done in Salem? Salem Oregon? I'm looking for shops to do custom drive shaft/axle work
Curious about how this was done. Eagerly awaiting
First! These engines sound so good with a proper exhaust. Been wanting to do a similar project for a while. Props!
I have an EZ30 and I would LOVE A 6 SPEED MANUAL OMFG! It fits the Wagon too?
Lol I think I went to look at bad luck Betty when it went up for sale! (In Seattle)
the awd dosnt make hudge diffrence in the seat dyno but god just toss a manuel behind it and bam the motor just comes alive and pull all the way to revline. it fits well with my 4.11 5spee rs coupe
Interested in seeing what your header and exhaust setup is. Usually quite hard to get the single port ez30d to sound great like yours does.
It’s actually pretty simple. I just cut the flange off the original ez30 header about 6” back, I merged those pipes into the stock ej25 header. Then it’s stock cats after that, into a 2-1/4” resonator.
I know this is old and probably not useful as the information I have is about 20 years old, but I had planned to convert my 1st gen Legacy wagon to RWD using a MkIV Supra transmission with a bellhousing converter plate being sold by someone I forget the name of. The transmission in the BRZ is rated for only about what the EZ30 puts out for power, so if you end up with transmission problems, it might be worth seeing if you can find out more about the Supra transmission adaptor. I'll also be surprised if the R160 held up this long, but that's an easier swap. I'm on my 4th Subaru (or "Subaru" in the case of the GR86) and only ever owned 2WD versions-they always drove much better than the AWDs when they were both being built to compare them to each other-they felt livelier, lighter, more nimble, quicker, with a more communicative chassis, and seemed to get the power to the wheels with far less loss (while that's obviously true, the difference in feel was remarkable jumping from FWD to AWD versions) while actually getting mileage that wasn't less than their contemporaries. Snow tires made up the difference in winter traction, though even with AS tires, they did pretty well. One of the big reasons I stopped buying Subarus for about 20 years was the AWD-only switch.
Interested to see how you addressed the cooling system. From the brief glimpse of the engine bay around the 7:10 point, it appears you have the EZ30D radiator in there; I found it to to be quite a bit too tall to fit in my '97 BD.
thepno95 all the details of this swap are explained here! ua-cam.com/video/xcWOd1Bl4_I/v-deo.html
Was you able to move the engine back any, now that you are not worried about the front cv axles?
nice shirt, same as mine!
So frs transmition will fit into blub eye without too many modifying?
interesting whatcha done there, i put a 1995 ej22 to a 2013 brz trans last year, where was this video then!?!? i did put in in a 1980 rx7 tho so a bit different, but literally yesterday I ordered up all the bits ill need to slap the spare brz trans I've got into my 1995 legacy and figured id search to see if anyone else had done it and I say this all and then hear 7:36, so ah idk about that man- its pretty simple stuff- except with the ej22 engine, not only do you have to notch the engine, you have to drill your own lower bell housing holes. and the space the hole comes out at is on an angle so there's another adapter to make lol.
Saw this for sale a few months back.
How much did you end up getting the total loss outback for? I want to do that same swap into my Forester minus the rwd swap
Did this car get sold a while back in Oregon, like the Salem area? I'm 99% sure I saw it for sale with some aftermarket wheels a few months back and was absolutely drooling over it.
Yes, sold it a while ago.
hey not sure if anybody still watches these videos but i have a question i cant seem to find an answer.
so i bought a 2002 subaru outback imported from switzerland.
its the h6 3.0L and on the paperworks it states 204hp but online i can only find 220hp h6 engines... so is my engine just a tuned down ez30 or is it a different engine?
What did you do for wiring as the h6 ecu is for a auto trans
I disagree that it's not fun with AWD, if you get manual eudm or australia 3.0R Spec B then its really fun, its the automatic that ruins it the most, it still has a really healthy 170-180whp with AWD, with some tune and more liberated exhaust it can do around 200 n/a, its very much enough for a fun sedan/wagon. With the auto its both slow and just boring tho
Would love to have an EZ30 swap in my '95 Legacy Brighton...
Any update on this swap?
Why not make a longer driving video? Long POV drive style one.
If u want more ideas or exhaust sound to enjoy, have a gander at my compilation of ez30 exhaust
What did you do about the wiring? H6 didn't come with a manual transmission, so the ECM will be confused if its not getting communication from a TCM.
I have the same question, I'm hoping this was accomplished with a stock ecu and some type of can bus trickery...
What clutch did u use for this set up ?
It's a shame it's the old EZ30, not the more powerful variable cam timing and lift one out of the 2003 on cars. In other countries we got that EZ30 mated to a close ratio STI 6 speed and they are great cars.
What did you do about losing the front axles? The stub shaft and axle nut are what hold the wheel bearing together...
Machined the stub shaft off and bolted it back into the hub
You drift this thing? I’m thinking of building one to drift but using a 2af Toyota motor
Please tell me how you got such a clean car/shell to start with, i can't find any!
Go south and stalk craigslist. The further you are from snow the less rusty the Subarus get, but also the less common they are. If you are patient you can find clean chassis with mechanical problems for under $1000.
Does it drive how a fwd 5 speed gc8 does? I love my gc8 and have a second gen legacy I need to fix up.
The gc8 is quickly becoming the holy grail of Subarus.. take care of her, pal!
how do the front wheels work with no stub axles (no more 4wd)?
Machined the hub end of the cv axles off and bolted them into the front hubs to hold the wheel bearing together.
hows the wiring
this is sick as fuck
Can we get an update video 🎃❤ please 🙏🏽
How much was this build?
I might put a red 6 speed in my 99 wrx
Sounds jus like mine. But its a 3rd gen legacy
uh... why am i looking up prices for a 98 LGT now?! they're so sexy!
Oh nice a local washington car.
I want to put this engine in a vw bug or porsche !
Hi! Are you still on those cheap coilovers ? Have you driven a good amount of miles to tell if they are good or not?
Yeah! I’ve been running the maxpeedingrods for a little over a year now and the only thing I’ve had to do is grease up the front pillow ball bearings and that’s about it. They’re stiff but still work pretty good.
@@TIRESIDE I currently have raceland coilovers that are meant for 2002-2007 wrx, they are 3 years old and about 40k but the top of them are rusted and want to replace them, the coilovers at the highest setting makes the car look really low that I can barely put a finger between the fenders and the tires and that's the highest setting, your car sets low but not like mine what setting are you in with yours? Can you raise it and lower your car more? I don't like going cheap but for my 99 subaru you really don't have too much of a selection and I'm getting bigger wheels so I want to know my options of 17s or 18s depending on the cars height cause of the fenders.
On my coilovers I’m at about midway on the height adjustment. I think I could raise a couple inches if I wanted to.
@@TIRESIDE thanks for the info👍 I appreciate the quick response.
eBay coils? I’m considering some atm… are you still using them?
I am! And the only thing I’ve really had to do is re grease the pillow ball bearings because they get sticky occasionally.
Where do I get that EZ shirt?! I need one!
I think I found it at a Subaru dealership!
Just curious, would that H6 fit into a BRZ/FRS?
I supposed it could since it mates up, but I would probably require a lot of modification to the brz chassis to make it fit... would be interesting to see!
ua-cam.com/video/0GTAztP4-7E/v-deo.html
Yeah it fits fine :-)
3:58 & 4:29 Facts
lol, wait till i finish my wagon heheeh
the ez30 is only half inch longer then the ej.
The one thing everyone wants to know is the wire merge but no one ever recorded or documented it
That's no knocking engine. That's just Drake trying to lay down the beats.
How did the R160 survive?
Been my daily ever since and still no issues!
@@TIRESIDE I love it! My first Subaru was this bodystyle - a 97 Legacy RS Twin Turbo. Sweet cars, but I ended up loving GC8s more. I'd love to get back into one of these, thanks for the vid :)
No re wiring done? ECU changes?
Extensive rewiring and ecu is changed of course.
wondered where the maf was
@@minus3dbintheteens60 this engine doesn't use an MAF. It is MAP based.
mine isnt
So I think I found my engine to swap in my 17 brz
Yessss! I want to see this happen! 😳
面白いレガシィ
are you in oregon
i have a legacy and i just want some help with ideas
7:36 you wanna bet?
No burn outs :(
U wasted a lot of time modding the driveshaft ..look at what mighty car mods did ..take the factory diff coupling and put it on the r180 diff ..easy
Bad add name!
Granny driving
Twaat