HEATED DEBATE: Is Bellingham a Top 10 Cm in the WORLD?!

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  • @willridesbikes.
    @willridesbikes. Рік тому +726

    Tom has the best ball knowledge by far. You can tell he actually watches the game rather than just go off of social media.

    • @101notfound17
      @101notfound17 Рік тому +31

      Lmao verratti is a terrible shout after what a terrible season he had

    • @zTriqzRx
      @zTriqzRx Рік тому +9

      if you think tom is going home to watch psg full matches you've lost it, you can't analyse every player in the world to the level he thinks he knows them

    • @andymore62
      @andymore62 Рік тому +2

      Not really, he just goes with whatever the consensus on Twitter is and thinks anyone who doesn’t is an idiot.

    • @nniico_
      @nniico_ Рік тому +5

      Verratti and Modric in a top 10 of the season is a joke

    • @adsi6751
      @adsi6751 Рік тому +4

      @@nniico_ why wouldn't modric be? he is absolute class still

  • @papaquentin1588
    @papaquentin1588 Рік тому +1158

    I swear Tom is the only one with any ball knowledge on this podcast

    • @garethpichon1101
      @garethpichon1101 Рік тому +55

      Verrati had a Horrible season

    • @1Ellixt
      @1Ellixt Рік тому +18

      Valverde 5th? lmao

    • @EA-hz9mg
      @EA-hz9mg Рік тому +47

      Just cos the other 3 are brainless doesn’t make him have ball knowledge verratti is a terrible shout 😂😂 and how isn’t musiala getting a mention when he’s clear of bellingham

    • @cameronsmith7328
      @cameronsmith7328 Рік тому +23

      @@EA-hz9mgmusiala definitely isnt clear of bellingham. Going forwards maybe but bellingham can do way more overall

    • @BigRake516
      @BigRake516 Рік тому

      @@1EllixtHe was the only on that included him. Good pick imo

  • @matthewkeys7754
    @matthewkeys7754 Рік тому +1014

    As much as it can get irritating how condescending Tom can be he's correct on like 99% of the debates they have on this show lmao

    • @jackbutler3594
      @jackbutler3594 Рік тому +115

      I think he’s condescending because he’s fed up of the bullshit he hears 🤣

    • @jman1387
      @jman1387 Рік тому +11

      99% what?😂 valverde 5th, VERRATTI😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ACGI657
      @ACGI657 Рік тому +27

      @@jman1387 just admit you don’t watch any football. Verratti is unreal if you’ve ever watched him

    • @jman1387
      @jman1387 Рік тому +4

      @@ACGI657 behave yourself. Verratti nowhere near top 10

    • @repeHAX
      @repeHAX Рік тому +15

      @@jman1387valverde was literally one of the best players two seasons ago when Real won the UCL and he was unreal last season aswell. He can play everywhere in the midfield and on the right wing, having hin 5th isnt a bad shout at all

  • @jupe86
    @jupe86 Рік тому +259

    Theo just looked at the FUT TOTY and picked the midfielders

  • @danielreda7648
    @danielreda7648 Рік тому +360

    The English and prem bias is insane
    Again Theo's ball knowledge is the worst

  • @francie6278
    @francie6278 Рік тому +648

    Tom is absolutely spot on about Jude Bellingham by the way, he’s a very talented young player but to suggest he already has it all is ridiculous in my opinion.

    • @jamesjenkins6093
      @jamesjenkins6093 Рік тому

      Deffo top 10 though, hop off Toms nuts pal

    • @hazzerboyes97
      @hazzerboyes97 Рік тому +13

      He literally won player of the season. Bellingham is top 5 easy

    • @jaspersanders8173
      @jaspersanders8173 Рік тому +18

      ​@@hazzerboyes97in the bundesliga yeah, the 2nd worst, if not the worst league of the top 5. The difference between most of the top 10 midfielders and Jude is that they've let their presence known internationally on the biggest stage, in the UCL or WC. Jude did have a good WC, but he mostly stood out because he is a young talent and because he's english. You could even argue that Musiala and Pedri are currently better than him based on how they contributed to their team's succes and their achievements. Jude's biggest achievement is his move to Real Madrid, but that doesn't make him a top 10 player yet.

    • @davidwhyte7343
      @davidwhyte7343 Рік тому +2

      Big time, I think camavinga is ahead of Jude in terms of their development, and they are the same age. It's about winning big games and trophies, not "showing promise"!

    • @OwlsAndDolphins.
      @OwlsAndDolphins. Рік тому +2

      ​@@jaspersanders8173 Musiala is not better than Jude Bellingham, if Bellingam was fit than Dortmund would of been champions, hes been their best player for multiple seasons

  • @ethankinsler4411
    @ethankinsler4411 Рік тому +203

    Bruno far too disrespected, just unlucky to be feeding wout weghorst

    • @Damian-wr6bz
      @Damian-wr6bz Рік тому +2

      He’s nowhere near this

    • @mrw999
      @mrw999 Рік тому

      @@Damian-wr6bzshut up bruv

    • @samknightley4173
      @samknightley4173 Рік тому +20

      @@Damian-wr6bz he’s better than bruno g, valverde, camavinga, pedri, Bellingham, odegaard

    • @Celticgoingtowinthechampions
      @Celticgoingtowinthechampions Рік тому +1

      @@samknightley4173 not pedri

    • @kodymendiola1507
      @kodymendiola1507 Рік тому +9

      @@Damian-wr6bzIf Bruno was English, people would have him 2nd. He had a better season than Bellingham this season

  • @isakpetterssonmusic
    @isakpetterssonmusic Рік тому +272

    This just proves that Bruno Fernandes is underrated. most big chances created in the league and have plenty of 30 g/a seasons in his career.

    • @inquisitorsneed2
      @inquisitorsneed2 Рік тому

      It's because he's the most unlikeable athlete in the world

    • @mrw999
      @mrw999 Рік тому +2

      Truly underrated

    • @thetruth4654
      @thetruth4654 Рік тому +24

      I dislike the guy, but he should be ahead of Odegaard as a player.

    • @Holdtight920
      @Holdtight920 Рік тому +1

      Or the man utd fans just overrate him too much

    • @footballglobe9730
      @footballglobe9730 Рік тому +14

      @@Holdtight920how r we overrating him when he’s got better stats than 99% of midfielders itw

  • @akshitlangeh3831
    @akshitlangeh3831 Рік тому +26

    the disrespect on pedri’s name is crazy, he controls the whole game while bellingham is another box to box

    • @jacobmcdermott55
      @jacobmcdermott55 5 місяців тому

      I love coming back every now and then and seeing stuff like this

  • @sam_elmesey
    @sam_elmesey Рік тому +113

    Theo genuinely thought he did something by laughing his head off. Tom is spot on

  • @Jalil187
    @Jalil187 Рік тому +143

    Bruno disrespected
    Pedri is easily top 5 imo, Theo really doesn’t watch football because he based it off last season and didn’t even include him
    Jude is good but people are obsessed with the idea of what he could become, he’s not top 10 at the moment
    Horrendous list from Theo

    • @LocalNoob_2
      @LocalNoob_2 Рік тому +5

      as a united fan i am more than used every other premier league club fan disrespecting him,calling him "average" not puting him in top 10s...they hate him because he drills their side each time they play but "complains" and "moans" all the time...umm he is the captain and is passionate? What is he supposed to do you muppets...they have 0 ball knowledge

    • @Htydeforce13
      @Htydeforce13 Рік тому

      Pedri top whatttt ??

    • @Jalil187
      @Jalil187 Рік тому +5

      @@Htydeforce13 Trust me, ever since the euros in 2021 he has been unreal. Aight maybe top 5 is pushing it and I’m biased for it. He’s top 10 for sure tho haha

    • @oluwatobafaleye8900
      @oluwatobafaleye8900 Рік тому +1

      @@Htydeforce13 He's genuinely that good.

    • @Htydeforce13
      @Htydeforce13 Рік тому

      @@oluwatobafaleye8900 I know he’s good I think he’s better than Bellingham camavinga tchouameni ect but not top 5 yet players like kd, Rodri kimmich silva Odegaard performing better in a better leauge also hard to compare or say he’s better than vets like modric casemiro Kroos ect no doubt he’ll be top 3 in a few years though

  • @Anonymous50573
    @Anonymous50573 Рік тому +48

    Surprised Barella didn’t get a shout

    • @Jay-tc9on
      @Jay-tc9on Рік тому +2

      Deserved a shout for sure, he played poor in the CL final though, so that probably detracts from his stock.

    • @pixelated4532
      @pixelated4532 Рік тому +1

      @@Jay-tc9on he was one of the main reasons to get inter to the final in the first place, great games against benfica, barcelona, milan etc etc

  • @joshuaquinn6945
    @joshuaquinn6945 Рік тому +58

    If you watch Bellingham on a consistent basis, you can tell he’s not a finished package yet. A lot of the times he’s caught in two minds (partially because at Dortmund he has to cover a lot of roles). He has amazing games, but like Dortmund themselves really struggles in moments that he should excel in. It might be down to age and the pressure that comes at Dortmund when it comes to their reputation as bottlers.

    • @halthegoat
      @halthegoat 9 місяців тому +2

      Nice one, zero ball knowledge. Now probably the best player in the world at present🤣

  • @kylebamford7600
    @kylebamford7600 Рік тому +154

    Not including Pedri, Kroos and Bernardo Silva is mind blowing 🤯

    • @user-fd9db4ee9n
      @user-fd9db4ee9n Рік тому +4

      Pedri and silva were mentioned

    • @user-nt9qq8lt4u
      @user-nt9qq8lt4u Рік тому +12

      @@JonasRodgers kroos was real's best midfielder waht are you talking about

    • @Red-wr4bg
      @Red-wr4bg Рік тому +4

      @@user-nt9qq8lt4uliterally, you know ball, kroos was their best midfielder after tchouameni got injured, id say camavinga as well if he wasn’t playing out of position

    • @Slesaint17
      @Slesaint17 Рік тому +1

      @@user-nt9qq8lt4ubut Madrid had a stinky season

    • @danielayar3599
      @danielayar3599 Рік тому +1

      @@user-nt9qq8lt4u kroos was stinky the majority of the past 2 seasons prior, going 1/3 seasons means you can't be put on this type of pedestal. same applies with kimmich tbh

  • @michaelfvt
    @michaelfvt Рік тому +54

    Because Tom got flustered when they asked what Jude can’t do, here is what he can’t do:
    - he doesn’t understand how to operate in small spaces when under pressure, he often gets into tough situations because his touch lets him down when he is pressed and gets bailed out because he is good in duels. Tom is right here, he isn’t good at picking the ball up from deep.
    - he can’t dictate tempo in the way Pedri, Gundo, VERRATTI, Kroos are able to. I remember he had

    • @rashidkatana9092
      @rashidkatana9092 Рік тому

      English tax all of a sudden he is top 10 but pedri is nowhere

    • @onlyweatherlol93
      @onlyweatherlol93 Рік тому

      Love the explanation, thank you!
      I have to be honest, he was an average performer against France at the world Cup. Tchouameni and Rabiot dominated him. He's too much of a rock and roll number 8 midfielder for me right now. He certainly doesn't have the acumen or astute nature to play as a 6 or deeper CM

    • @umaribrahim5316
      @umaribrahim5316 8 місяців тому

      Yeah mate you lot are right

    • @adiulakovic8196
      @adiulakovic8196 6 місяців тому

      this argument was from last season. he's obv has improved and playing a completely new role@@umaribrahim5316

    • @jagj2803
      @jagj2803 5 місяців тому

      Still wanking off on that opinion huh mate????

  • @sexyjulian2006
    @sexyjulian2006 Рік тому +153

    Kroos was clearly Real Madrid's best midfielder last season, and the fact that he's not on anyone's list, just shows that they don’t watch anything outside of the prem, and their opinion is just based on what they hear on social media.

    • @EA-hz9mg
      @EA-hz9mg Рік тому +4

      Facts

    • @ahmedasensio1430
      @ahmedasensio1430 Рік тому

      Absolutely bro even no camavinga it's crazy

    • @johanliebert6734
      @johanliebert6734 Рік тому +8

      ​@@ahmedasensio1430tbf he played out of position most season

    • @ahmedasensio1430
      @ahmedasensio1430 Рік тому

      @@johanliebert6734 Yeah he was playing as LB on the paper but inthe match he was coming at the mid most the ofthe time or as LMC

    • @RenewedRS
      @RenewedRS Рік тому +5

      @@ahmedasensio1430 no chance Camavinga is top 10

  • @aceybeast8414
    @aceybeast8414 Рік тому +69

    bruno fernandes should be in the list in my opinion

  • @pabel3222
    @pabel3222 Рік тому +61

    Rice and odegard over Kimich and Casemiro if that's not bad ball knowledge i don’t know what is😶.Not just bad that's shocking.I would agree if football started last year

    • @dominikjarka4608
      @dominikjarka4608 Рік тому +3

      I would put Kimmich as a number 2 itw. Am I trippin? Purely on ability, he's a perfect midfielder. I am so amazed by the things he can do on the pitch

    • @pabel3222
      @pabel3222 Рік тому +1

      @@dominikjarka4608 He is up there with Rodri

    • @jacksonboyd02
      @jacksonboyd02 Рік тому

      Yea it physically hurt me hearing theos list

    • @nniico_
      @nniico_ Рік тому

      your "ball knowledge" is social media and fifa ratings

  • @ethanhawthorne1948
    @ethanhawthorne1948 Рік тому +79

    The obsession with Bellingham is unreal he hasn’t done anything yet but they’re speaking about him as if he’s the best in the world right now. He’s a future star and the discussion can be made once he’s done something but right now at this very minute he’s not the best.

    • @matthewjohnson421
      @matthewjohnson421 Рік тому +2

      He won bundesliga player of the season and almost carried Dortmund to the title

    • @ethanhawthorne1948
      @ethanhawthorne1948 Рік тому +1

      @@matthewjohnson421 so that makes him too midfielders in the world right now? You can argue other players have done that in the top teams in other leagues

    • @jiahaogoh2822
      @jiahaogoh2822 Рік тому +3

      if he wasnt english nobody would be talking about him. the english tax is real. he is good dont get me wrong but he will that level in the future not now

    • @Jn.curry10
      @Jn.curry10 Рік тому

      @@matthewjohnson421almost

    • @Daniboi971
      @Daniboi971 11 місяців тому

      @@matthewjohnson421toddler league

  • @zachharrison35
    @zachharrison35 Рік тому +103

    They're just exposing their lack of watching the games. Bellinghams biggest test at the club level last year was against Chelsea and he was terrible both legs. Enzo completely dogwalked him in the midfield, enzo is crazy underrated while Bellingham is way overrated

    • @jimsu-whls-1686
      @jimsu-whls-1686 Рік тому +11

      Enzo isn't uderrated at all tho. He's a CM that cost chelsea 120 mil €, you'd expect him to be good

    • @mikkelandersen2167
      @mikkelandersen2167 Рік тому +9

      @@jimsu-whls-1686 No way! As a united fan I'd say he's massively underrated no one would mention him in this conversation even though he's class. He hasnt lived up to the expectation of 120 mil price tag youre correct, but chelsea as a unit have all been terrible.

    • @jimsu-whls-1686
      @jimsu-whls-1686 Рік тому

      @@mikkelandersen2167 tbh I haven't seen enough of him to really rate him. I just remember him being pretty bad against dortmund in the first leg.

    • @jobefarrant6043
      @jobefarrant6043 Рік тому +1

      oh yh bellingham was not existent in the world cup

    • @jobefarrant6043
      @jobefarrant6043 Рік тому +1

      gotta look at what hes doing for england aswell surely

  • @othinusz3576
    @othinusz3576 Рік тому +53

    No, he is in no way shape or form a top 10 Midfielder (YET). Putting him second & above Rodri is absolutely outrageous, well seen that they're all English & Tom the only one who knows what he's talking about doesn't have him in the top 10.

    • @Jalil187
      @Jalil187 Рік тому +4

      Everything about his list stinks
      Jude is not top 10, Pedri is comfortably top 8

    • @hellohi1445
      @hellohi1445 Рік тому

      @@Jalil187pedri top 8 is crazy tbh. Kimmich, modric, Rodri, gundagon, KDB, Casemiro, BARELLA, Valverde etc. are above.
      Pedri is up there tho.

    • @AK-bj6fk
      @AK-bj6fk Рік тому +1

      @@hellohi1445 Modric wasn't great. Even as an RM fan I'll say that. The only Madrid midfielder here should be Kroos and then maybe Valverde. The likes of Odegaard, Anguissa, and stuff are missing.

    • @hellohi1445
      @hellohi1445 Рік тому +1

      @@AK-bj6fk anguissa and odegaard over modric? So ur falling under the recency bias disease too 😭😭😭 that’s crazy???
      Bro modric showed up in UCL, odegaard didn’t in europa…anguissa is good but he’s only done one season. Ain’t no way ur convincing me his Fulham days were better than modric lmao. And modric turns up for Croatia. World Cup semi final. Schooled Netherlands. Like bro..ur a Madrid fan and ur trying to put odegaard above modric?

    • @AK-bj6fk
      @AK-bj6fk Рік тому

      @@hellohi1445 Maybe Modric should be there lol. But this season was below his usual standard, especially the league campaign and the City match. Understandably so. I’d take out Odegaard then but Anguissa should be there. Best Napoli midfielder in a season they won Serie A.

  • @brodygibson7494
    @brodygibson7494 Рік тому +14

    Theo's arsenal bias is actually so ridiculous ahahaha

    • @brodygibson7494
      @brodygibson7494 Рік тому +1

      @@123kaired hopefully you can win something with a £1.2Bn squad

  • @louis2712l
    @louis2712l Рік тому +46

    Rice and Odegaard over Kimmich 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @taylorbrown1897
    @taylorbrown1897 Рік тому +16

    Shocking ball knowledge

  • @terminator6829
    @terminator6829 Рік тому +10

    The english bias was the highest i have ever seen

  • @santoskircher844
    @santoskircher844 Рік тому +46

    The fact that barrella was arguably the best player on a team that went to the CL final, and he balled all season long isn’t in any of these lists, just shows the levels of ball knowledge

    • @nniico_
      @nniico_ 11 місяців тому

      yeah he's fantastic in fifa we get it

  • @4lj4zz
    @4lj4zz Рік тому +35

    Here we go again with the british bias. Bellingham must be one of the most overrated players in world football right now.

    • @hellohi1445
      @hellohi1445 Рік тому

      Bellingham is not overrated bro. He’s one of the few english players who aren’t overrated. He’ll actually reach the heights people are expecting him to reach.
      Just cause a few people on a podcast is hyping him up doesn’t make him overrated 😂

    • @mikkelandersen2167
      @mikkelandersen2167 Рік тому +3

      @@hellohi1445 a few people... are u mad everyone thinks bellingham is the one of the best midfielders in the world, but hes just not

    • @hellohi1445
      @hellohi1445 Рік тому

      @@mikkelandersen2167 I think him and pedri have done enough to be in those brackets. Pedri definitely. Bellingham just at the edge of top 10. Outside of it.
      Either way, I’m comparing Bellingham overhype to rice. Bellingham will be an all time great midfielder. I don’t see rice being one. People put rice above Casemiro, Kimmich, Rodri 😭 3 of the best CDM’s in the world
      Personally, I have yet to see people put Bellingham above modric, gundagon, de bruyne etc.

    • @jacksonboyd02
      @jacksonboyd02 Рік тому

      Thank u Bellingham is no where near the top 10 the English bias on him is insane

    • @cavani3948
      @cavani3948 Рік тому

      ​@@hellohi1445you literally watched a video of him being overrated haha watch him vs chelsea both legs and tell me he's top 10 in world. Enzo schooled him

  • @Morgalucci
    @Morgalucci Рік тому +10

    Kroos over Bellingham, but Bellingham is clear of Verratti, especially based on last season. Rice deserves a mention but not a spot and Pedri is easily one of the best midfielders in the world. Bernardo Silva did not have a good season in the prem, only in the UCL. As sensational a player Modric is, he is surely not in the top 10 as of now, he had an average LaLiga performance, and is clearly showing his age. Bruno is a must for me.
    Some honourable mentions for Aleix Garcia, Parejo and Szoboszlai. Maybe even Jonas Hoffman who has been immense in the bundesliga
    Also, Kimmich is top 3 easy rn

  • @ellis9290
    @ellis9290 Рік тому +6

    "a lot of the comments were saying you underrated lacazette" this guy is so delusional it hurts, 95% were bashing him.

  • @BIGDemetrius9
    @BIGDemetrius9 Рік тому +9

    The fact that none of these dudes put Kroos in there, is atrocious

    • @hellohi1445
      @hellohi1445 Рік тому

      Midfielders that dictate the game and do the dirty work are often always underrated.

    • @henrymartins4549
      @henrymartins4549 Рік тому

      Kroos is NOT currently part of the top 10 in the world. He’s slowing down. But others had a better season than him. It’s based on current form

    • @dyingyeetus433
      @dyingyeetus433 Рік тому +1

      @@henrymartins4549are you serious bro, Kroos was literally Madrid’s best midfielder last season by a long shot.

    • @henrymartins4549
      @henrymartins4549 Рік тому

      @@dyingyeetus433 yes. But he wasn’t their best player. Let’s be honest Madrid last season weren’t really good throughout the season. Yes they got to the semi final of the champions league but the champions league doesn’t need as much consistency as the league. Camavinga and Vinicius were a mile better off than all their midfielders put together. So come again. Stop living in the past

  • @zoot8378
    @zoot8378 Рік тому +9

    Theo getting all his ball knowledge (very little) from FIFA

  • @aaronreid6820
    @aaronreid6820 Рік тому +3

    Theo has never watched Bellingham outside of the World Cup 🤣

  • @abhinavkumar4824
    @abhinavkumar4824 Рік тому +5

    Leave all that how did everyone forget Bernardo silva (except Tom)that’s so bad man , also how did Lewis not have kimmich wtf bro he had Bruno (not even the right one)but not kimmich

  • @byronmcguigan6679
    @byronmcguigan6679 Рік тому +14

    This genuinely hurt to watch. I felt sorry for Tom having to listen to this delusion they genuinely must not watch the sport 😂

  • @foooj7580
    @foooj7580 11 місяців тому +1

    My guy snuck in Odegaard at 6TH and didn't even include Bruno who is 3x the player Odegaard is. Man's living in denial

  • @mattwhytehd8291
    @mattwhytehd8291 Рік тому

    Release the full podcast in this please !!!

  • @tahmid3999
    @tahmid3999 Рік тому +3

    Overrating Odegard is so weird to the level where Bruno comparisons don't stand. Bruno Fernandes had record breaking goalscoring seasons, last season competed with Kdb on every metric of chance creation, topping some, scored one more than Kdb in the PL. He didn't have the striker to back it with assists. If Theo(who's probably only seen arsenal and England play) goes by Odergaard scoring most goals as a 10, then he should be above Kdb too.

    • @user-io8cm4dk1f
      @user-io8cm4dk1f Рік тому

      Odegaard isn’t a 10

    • @jackwebb987
      @jackwebb987 Рік тому

      Odegaard plays much more as an 8 than a 10

    • @tahmid3999
      @tahmid3999 Рік тому

      @@jackwebb987 I don't think so, he obviously drops down whenever needed to and progress the ball, but so does Bruno. They're respectively both teams primary creators and best progressor, Ode is a much better carrier, Bruno is a much better passer. Both receive high alot too, there was a comparison graph between Kdb and these three by a good acc and they're incredibly similar, more so Ode and Bruno cause they drop more for United and arsenal, but Bruno is a much better chance creator while Odergaard a shooter. Bruno also outright played as a pivot player/6 behind Sabitzer when Casemiro was injured last season. I think Bruno's last season was insane creatively(backed up by underlying stats) but general consensus didn't see that cause he didn't have a finisher to convert his chances to goals. But Odergaard was close too, him Bruno Kdb top 3 attacking mids in the league.
      My issue was Theo dismissing Bruno so easily when it's so far from the truth.

  • @PoppinLou
    @PoppinLou Рік тому +6

    I'm happy for Bellingham going to Real Madrid and there's definitely something there, which must be why they paid the fee for him, but he still needs to prove himself before entering the top 10 list.
    He's mature beyond his years and seems to have a great work ethic, so being at Madrid will be a test to prove how good he is/can be.
    He does need to be careful with his knee, because his career could be diminished.
    I wish him all the best of luck, though, and I hope he goes on to do great things and win trophies.

    • @zaclittlewood7177
      @zaclittlewood7177 Рік тому +1

      He won poty in the bundesliga

    • @PoppinLou
      @PoppinLou Рік тому

      @@zaclittlewood7177 I know, which is a great start for someone of his age.

  • @braddaberg2351
    @braddaberg2351 Рік тому +1

    Why aren't the full eps uploaded here?? Much prefer watching a pod over listening to one

  • @damarcust7186
    @damarcust7186 Рік тому +2

    Theo asks Tom when he watches kimmich when the only time Theo watches Jude is for england 😭

  • @rock-smasher9692
    @rock-smasher9692 Рік тому +4

    Most be painful to have to try and debate with Theo and Lewis

  • @kodymendiola1507
    @kodymendiola1507 Рік тому +19

    So Pedri, who has won the league this year, wasn’t on Theo’s list. Which is fair. But Pedri not being on the list AT ALL with a LaLiga and Bellingham being that high up without a single league title is criminal.

    • @lenl860
      @lenl860 Рік тому

      At least Bellingham was the best player on the pitch against City in the CL and was Dortmund player of the season. Broke a Champions League record and was in the World Cup best XI. Whilst Pedri wasnt even the best player at Barca, it was ter Stegen, followed by aruajo, followed by de Jong, Pedri wansnt even the best at a Europa League club. They won the league due to the defence and goalkeeper overperforming.

    • @kodymendiola1507
      @kodymendiola1507 Рік тому

      @@lenl860 Warra trophy that is

  • @CriticallyAcclaimed
    @CriticallyAcclaimed Рік тому

    @Pitch Side I don't understand why you don't edit your teams up on the screen as you list them, in post.

  • @genozide1996
    @genozide1996 Рік тому

    At the start it says full podcast on UA-cam now? Anyone know where to find it?

  • @adambradshaw4442
    @adambradshaw4442 Рік тому +3

    Agree with Tom about Modric, has declined this last season or so and isn’t 2nd best itw anymore. I’d say KDB Rodri and kimmich

  • @alextromagnetic
    @alextromagnetic Рік тому +4

    Until last season, Kimmich was comfortably the best DM in the world (now it's Rodri). Rice isn't even top 3 prem CDMs so idk how he's above Kimmich

  • @louissmith3069
    @louissmith3069 Рік тому +2

    Saying Verratti is even on this list is outrageous, he hasn’t even scored a goal in the whole season and has 1 assist in all comps. He has more red cards than goals 😂

  • @viktorjohansson8464
    @viktorjohansson8464 Рік тому +2

    No kroos or Musiala not even mentioned is crazy

  • @dmaccers656
    @dmaccers656 Рік тому +5

    Crazy to say Bellingham can’t pick it up and run too 😂 completely made Kanes goal v Sen at the WC

    • @tahmidahmed7310
      @tahmidahmed7310 Рік тому +2

      He was implying how poor he is in the first phase not second phase little boy

    • @dmaccers656
      @dmaccers656 Рік тому

      @@tahmidahmed7310 didn’t ask mate

    • @tahmidahmed7310
      @tahmidahmed7310 Рік тому

      @@dmaccers656 jus clarifying cos it seems you was confused with your lack of iq

  • @Fressivoir
    @Fressivoir Рік тому +4

    Theo's ball knowledge is horrendous

  • @jonbon6843
    @jonbon6843 Рік тому +1

    Bruno Fernandes club stats last season: 14 goals and 15 assists
    Odegaard club stats last season: 15 goals and 8 assists.
    And that’s not even including Bruno Fernandes’ World Cup goals and assists (btw at the World Cup he had the highest rating of any player in the whole tournament- above Mbappe and Messi).
    And this is Odegaard first decent season and Bruno is still better on an average season for him 😂

  • @rogerkim8611
    @rogerkim8611 Рік тому +1

    Damn they all forgot musiala, guy was the best player for germany at the wc and literally won bayern the league with the final goal

  • @crxptxc4398
    @crxptxc4398 Рік тому +4

    Chelsea v dortmund both legs Bellingham was anonymous

  • @user-li8ku8ek7f
    @user-li8ku8ek7f 8 місяців тому +4

    First of all, Jude just smashed Toms list in a couple of months.
    Second, the fact that no one even mentioned Musiala is absolutely criminal

  • @KindergartenKlopp
    @KindergartenKlopp 9 місяців тому +2

    Listening to the Bellingham debate 3 months later is hilarious. Veratti? Lol. Why not put Kanye in there?

  • @jamescooper3739
    @jamescooper3739 5 місяців тому +1

    This could be an all timer clip to return to if jude does win a balon dor 😂

  • @Faz1e
    @Faz1e Рік тому +5

    No Barella, Musiala or Enzo while including Rice is crazy

  • @maccamorrice3054
    @maccamorrice3054 Рік тому +14

    Bruno F has the most chances created since he entered the league. No one has created more. If United had a proper number 9 he’d easily have double goals and assists every single season. Martin O has one good season and he’s the best thing since slice bread 😂😂

  • @lukemavrak7775
    @lukemavrak7775 Рік тому

    Theo where is your Nike bottle from please reply

  • @akiragaming_2004
    @akiragaming_2004 11 місяців тому +2

    Tom is definitely the one who has the best ball knowledge among these lot.

    • @nniico_
      @nniico_ 11 місяців тому

      well he somehow managed to make a list that's worse than theo's so idk

  • @Gmc10-
    @Gmc10- Рік тому +15

    Tom is literally the only one with ball knowledge there

    • @EA-hz9mg
      @EA-hz9mg Рік тому +1

      Veratti 😂 no mention of musiala Kroos Pedri in his list 😂😂

    • @johanliebert6734
      @johanliebert6734 Рік тому +2

      ​@@EA-hz9mgrelatively high ball knowledge compared to others

  • @Standard____
    @Standard____ Рік тому +18

    Theo looked at the FIFA 23 team of the season and put those
    Lewis seemed to have just made it up on the spot
    For me (decided before I watched the video)
    10. Bruno
    9. Modric
    8. Pedri
    7. Veratti (Tom’s opinion is great on him)
    6. Kimmich
    5. Bernardo silva (incredibly underrated Tom again with a W opinion)
    4. Gundogan
    3. Casemiro
    2. Rodri
    1. De Brunye
    And I’m not a City fan I’m a Liverpool fan but the city midfield is class

    • @xD-mk9lh
      @xD-mk9lh Рік тому

      De jong was better then pedri last seson but stil god list

    • @Standard____
      @Standard____ Рік тому +1

      @@xD-mk9lh yeah I forgot about de jong I remembered when they mentioned it. The stuff in brackets was when I hear the stuff they said and I added the more interesting stuff about me hating on their stuff at the beginning

    • @eliassohlberg660
      @eliassohlberg660 Рік тому

      How you leaving out kroos?

    • @Standard____
      @Standard____ Рік тому

      @@eliassohlberg660 it’s this season, he wasn’t as impressive as any of these players in my opinion and I would even probably put Bellingham and Bruno Guimares ahead of Kroos

    • @jerano4kt
      @jerano4kt Рік тому +1

      1.Kevin De Bruyne
      2.Luka Modric
      3.Jude Bellingham
      4.Bernardo Silva
      5.Rodri
      6.Fede Valverde
      7.Martin Ødegaard
      8.Jamal Musiala
      9.Frenkie De Jong
      10.Eduardo Camavinga

  • @romn007
    @romn007 Рік тому +1

    Theo rating Odegaurd and Declan over Casemiro and Kimmich is criminal

  • @metricer999
    @metricer999 Рік тому

    should make a managers XI (not including pro footballers that have managed for like a year or 2 (like ole, or viera)

  • @sreedarsanbuddy7495
    @sreedarsanbuddy7495 Рік тому +3

    Reev list was atleast decent...other two were pretty dumb list😅

  • @finerz9742
    @finerz9742 9 місяців тому +2

    When this was released toms top 10 was pretty accurate

    • @cameronsmith7328
      @cameronsmith7328 9 місяців тому +2

      It wasnt he had verrati in his team who has been bang average for psg for years

    • @finerz9742
      @finerz9742 9 місяців тому

      @@cameronsmith7328and u don’t watch psg do u, he was class and Bellingham wasn’t doing what he is now for Madrid back at dortmund, he was part of a team that bottled the league and cried all game about it

    • @cameronsmith7328
      @cameronsmith7328 9 місяців тому

      @@finerz9742 bellingham is the top goal scorer in la liga and has won the kopa trophy while carrying madrid without a striker. Where is verratti? Got kicked out if psg for his laziness, poor fitness and a decent manager has realise hes bad now

  • @daanvogels3787
    @daanvogels3787 Рік тому +1

    I think Griezman should be a shout, he had an unbelievable world cup playing at cm and at Atletico Madrid as well

  • @ByuntaeOG
    @ByuntaeOG Рік тому +1

    My man puts Kimmich low cause he hasn't watched any Bayern but he's trying to make us believe he watched Dortmund?

  • @kieranmunson4403
    @kieranmunson4403 Рік тому +5

    Verratti is so under rated, easily top 10 midfielder in last 4/5 years

    • @EA-hz9mg
      @EA-hz9mg Рік тому

      @humorkongen😂😂 facts he’s pony

    • @hellohi1445
      @hellohi1445 Рік тому

      @@EA-hz9mgVeratti is pony 😭💀

  • @alanmwenda2141
    @alanmwenda2141 8 місяців тому +3

    how many are here after bellingham's stellar perfomances
    in real madrid

  • @laila5061
    @laila5061 Рік тому +1

    no bernardo silva and no pedri IS INSANE

  • @jimjogger306
    @jimjogger306 Рік тому +2

    Lets be honest after KDB it doesnt really matter, 2-10 you can swap and change each and every one of them from game to game!
    Toms the only one out of these who doesnt have to google players!
    Verratti is a strange one, Ive always like him but its crazy hes only got 7 goals for PSG in 11 years! To put that into perspective Casemiros got 4 in his first season and he missed about 18 games.

  • @abdim123
    @abdim123 Рік тому +4

    Bellingham being top 10 is insane. The guy plays in the budesliga and is also about to have a knee sugery at 19. He is also so overrated.

  • @momirgrahovac9657
    @momirgrahovac9657 Рік тому +1

    FOR ME:
    10. Valverde
    9. Pedri
    8.Bruno F
    7.De Jong
    6.Gundogan
    5.Modric(age)
    4.Casemiro
    3.Rodri
    2.Kimmich
    1.KDB
    Young mids:
    3.Jude
    2.Musiala
    1.Pedri

  • @sheep3322
    @sheep3322 Рік тому +1

    Where was Barella in ur lists?!?!

  • @WillSavage
    @WillSavage Рік тому +1

    I totally get why he wouldn't put Bellingham top 10, I wouldn't yet have him in there. But to suggest there is no case to be made for him being top 10 CM is wrong imo. He won the Bundesliga player of the year ahead of Kimmich so there is case that he is top 10.

  • @urbanflow9383
    @urbanflow9383 Рік тому +2

    How does Lewis ever get an opinion???😂😂

  • @De3dSh0t
    @De3dSh0t Рік тому +1

    For me:
    1) KDB
    2) Rodri
    3) Pedri
    4) Modric
    5) Gundo
    6) Musiala
    7) Kroos (how the fuck was he not mentioned btw??)
    8) Kimmich
    9) De Jong
    10) Valverde
    10th was close could've been Ødegaard, Casemiro and Camavinga as well

  • @MissaArt17
    @MissaArt17 Рік тому +1

    The frenkie de jong disrespect is so insane

  • @rhysdavies8092
    @rhysdavies8092 Рік тому +1

    Tom is the only one that has quite a far bit of ball knowledge which is what makes this podcast so entertaining. It’s so fun to listen to Theo Reev and this lewis fella’ outrageous takes

  • @Akan123
    @Akan123 Рік тому +1

    There's absolutely no reason for Modric to be that high anymore, I'd have Barella in my Top 10 & the 4 City Midfielders(KDB, Gundogan, B. Silva & Rodri) as my set in stone 5 then fill in the remaining positions

  • @biblical1694
    @biblical1694 Рік тому +1

    All this made me realise is how bad midfielders are now outside the top 2-3.

  • @martinjasper7650
    @martinjasper7650 Рік тому +1

    Theo - No Toni Kroos :O Er you under the influence?

  • @kronixone3317
    @kronixone3317 Рік тому +2

    1. KDB
    2. Rodri
    3. Kimmich
    4. Modric
    6. Bellingham
    7. Casamerio
    8. Pedri
    9. Gundo
    10. Odergard
    Don’t want to put players who’ve been out of position this season like Valverde, Camavinga, Bernardo.S and Bruno.F
    Shoutout to Bruno.G and Musiala

    • @EA-hz9mg
      @EA-hz9mg Рік тому

      Good list aside from modric. Wasn’t great last season kroos was much better alone

    • @kronixone3317
      @kronixone3317 Рік тому

      @@EA-hz9mg Modric was the only sceptical one tbf

    • @nottheonefromearth
      @nottheonefromearth Рік тому

      Bernardo likes to play besides Rodri tho

    • @kronixone3317
      @kronixone3317 Рік тому

      @@nottheonefromearth he been playing mostly RW and CM

    • @nottheonefromearth
      @nottheonefromearth Рік тому

      @@kronixone3317 yeah cm is a lil infront of Rodri but that's what I ment

  • @babathdj
    @babathdj Рік тому

    watch a lot of dortmund last season theo?

  • @skoppe_8094
    @skoppe_8094 Рік тому +1

    No kroos is crazy, Pedri as well deserves a shout. Jude is easily becoming the most hyped up player in ages man

  • @pranaycr7
    @pranaycr7 Рік тому +1

    Luka Modric played the most games out of anyone in Europe's top 5 leagues. So that's why he was tired at the end of the season. He is still in the top 3 midfielders in the world.

  • @zainshmed9928
    @zainshmed9928 Рік тому +2

    Great shout for Bruno, toms list is probably the best if he had Pedri in. Gundogan should be a bit higher than 8th, probably 5th

  • @davidplumstead2104
    @davidplumstead2104 Рік тому +2

    The sarcasm with the Tom comments 🤣 Google’s top ten lists easily

  • @bigmanpods8562
    @bigmanpods8562 Рік тому +1

    The fact that Theo can see this with a straight face is crazy, brings down Arsenal fans in general…No Verrati is horrendous by the way easily the most under appreciated Midfielder of our generation.

  • @andrewscott864
    @andrewscott864 Рік тому +2

    No Musiala mention is crazy

  • @evanaskew3596
    @evanaskew3596 Рік тому +1

    16:06 their faces when he makes that point

  • @Shobster123
    @Shobster123 Рік тому +1

    Tom once again proving to be the only one with elite ball knowledge on this panel

  • @smaugrotwk6510
    @smaugrotwk6510 Рік тому +1

    For me right now these are the best 20 players in who play 6, 8 and 10. KDB, Modric, Silva, Rodri, Casemiro, Kimmich, Fernandez, Odegaard, Kroos, Gundogan, Brozovic, Foden, Pedri, Frenkie, Valverde, Barella, Bellingham, Goretzka, Kovacic and Verratti

  • @abhinavkumar4086
    @abhinavkumar4086 Рік тому +1

    What baffles me is how is pedri not as high as Bellingham then ,cause he is more important player for a far better team in a better league

  • @Eclipse-pn1sq
    @Eclipse-pn1sq Рік тому +1

    I feel like Tom rates Kimmicg so highly as well as rice and verratti over Bellingham is because he prefers a more defensive minded midfielder compared to players like Bellingham who pick up the ball and charge at players, also Bellingham’s underrated for his intensity when pressing to win back the ball.

  • @sukunasan9441
    @sukunasan9441 10 місяців тому +1

    Bernardo silva being in only one list is a complete madness

  • @maxwellsplash970
    @maxwellsplash970 11 місяців тому

    16:09 got me deady 😂😂😂

  • @user-do5kh6lk4y
    @user-do5kh6lk4y Рік тому

    The biggest shocker is how no one added griezman

  • @timoteovalles724
    @timoteovalles724 11 місяців тому +1

    Crazy how twitter said Bellingham is better however UA-cam is all against this