Reev is also speaking facts about Alvarez, regardless of where he’s currently deployed he would be every team bar City’s best striker. Go back and watch the liverpool game Haaland missed last year and you’ll see Alvarez could easily, easily lead the line for us without Haaland. He was also the starting striker for an Argentina team that literally won the World Cup, idk how it can get more elite than that.
Jesus has the worst finishing according to xG amongst top strikers. Every season criminally under performs his xG. How can anyone say he is not an awful finisher amongst other players of a similar level is bizarre
@@maxm7365 no it wouldnt, haaland performed around his xG, but usually he overperforms its over a season because hes a great finisher. Goals compared to xG is literally the best stat for determining finishing. Jesus may have some good qualities such as generating more chances for himself to generate that extra xG but he cant finish his dinner. Literally so obvious to see Jesus cant finish I cant believe there are people who actually think otherwise its mental
All I have to say about Jesus is that Pep played foden as a false 9 over Jesus. Pep had a st but would rather use a midfielder/winger in that role. Jesus is good but not that good
Jesus has scored 70 prem goals into his 8th prem season, only double figures 3x..... Think Reev had a blinder and silly Theo and shouty Tom have an L on their hands
The issue with trying to debate Nunez is people don't actually watch every Liverpool game, so the perception is he only misses good chances. Ignoring the fact he still hit double figures last season despite injuries and being rotated a lot, he causes more issues for defences than any other striker in the league that isn't Haaland. Go watch the Villa game last month and ask Pau Torres if he'd rather play against Darwin or Watkins, I guarantee he's picking Watkins 99 times out of 100.
I think nunez is good and getting better, and those 2 goals vs newcastle showed what he can be imo, but he still has problems. I think he can easily be top 5 by the end of the season, but I still think he needs to prove it.
@@merlinbotha363 Newcastle had the joint best defence last season in the league, Nunez scored against them and then scored twice against them this season. Also scored against Arsenal, City (and assisted) and Real Madrid last season. You can be as solid as you want but he's quicker, stronger and jumps higher than most defenders, which means it's the solid defences he usually does well against. Can't remember a defence that actually kept him quiet, he always gets himself 1 good chance a game. This season he's becoming more clinical and if he does get 20+ goals this season (already on 4 in 3 starts) then it won't even be an argument he's at least top 5
almost like there’s more to his game than just goals… honestly the way people use stats to judge players nowadays is embarrassing, you haven’t even watched him play
@@jamesedwards3410when you’re picking from the best you have to look at stats, thats what separates them. Hojlund’s been decent but he’s only played like 3 games, its too early for him to be on here. Guarantee you watkins, isak, wilson, etc would have score more goals at the point for united. They’re good without scoring goals as well but what seperated them is how many goals they have
Reev using finishing as his argument and having Son that low, one of the most clinical players in world football and someone who hasn't missed a big chance this season, is top tier waffle.
@@reevbro you used finishing and scoring as a pure no 9 as a whole argument to put Jesus down and then went on to put a guy who doesn’t even play as a striker whose whole game doesn’t revolve around being a pure no 9 as the 2nd best striker in the prem ,brilliant
Gabriel Jesus the second best striker in the league hahahaha, these arsenal fans man, career best is 14 goals in the league for the premier league winners Edit: retract my arsenal fans statement, it’s just Theo, he’s unwatchable at times
@@thomasbelcher3283 that’s the thing villa fans and people who actually watch watkins know he’s decent but not top 5 in prem🤣 these people like theo just look at the Fotmob stats
If Watkins was more clinical he’d genuinely be one of the best strikers in the world in my opinion. But it pains me as a Villa fan watching him every week miss sitters. But he’s hold up play and constant running and stretching defences is flawless.
Even as a Spurs fan Nunez is highly underrated here, its insane. And Gabriel Jesus is easily the worst No9 in the Top 6 teams but if Arsenal want to continue with him then thats fine by me xD. Its not a coincidence that they are highly linked with Toney and every Arsenal fan that I know wants Toney...Gabriel Jesus just isnt him
@@patrickhall9309 actually son's known for his versatility bro, he plays #9 now that kanes gone, amd has done so throughout his career, especially under jose, under poch and now postecoglou. Son's a number 9 who can play on either wing. And he's not a left winger, he's an inside forward
Solanke and Awoniyi over Nunez ? 😂 people just love to be different, Nunez literally turned the game around Newcastle and he’s been great this season. Solanke couldn’t even cut it at Liverpool. It’s alright, we’ll look back at the end of the season.
Reev is spot on with his arguement but Son should be higher on the list. #9's are meant to finish and be in the right positions to score goals, Haaland barely touches the ball yet when he has a chance he finishes it. Watkins over Jesus is fully justified as Watkins is the more clinical finisher and his positioning is great.
Exactly, sometimes I can’t listen to Theo talk ball because he constantly contradicts himself trying to be right. The striker scores first and foremost. I’m a city fan, i fucking love Gabby still, realistically as a striker he simply is not clinical enough. Especially in teams like city and arsenal where there’s so many chances created, you don’t need your striker involved everywhere, you need him parked in or around the 18 yard box scoring goals. Also agree with the Son point, I genuinely think he’s only low because it’s hard to think of him as a striker still.
There are different types of strikers. Strikers like haaland are mainly there to score goals and be a target man but strikers like Jesus can be seen as false 9 sort of strikers who offer a lot of things haaland doesn’t. Kind of like how pep has ederson in goal, he’s not one of the best shot stoppers in the world (like scoring for a striker) but he is with his feet so that’s why pep wants him (like the other things Jesus offers)
Son's 8+ years of EPL xG is 81.18 where he scored 108 goals for +26.82. That's full 33% above average footballer. No one is in his neighborhood. Not Haaland - he is bang average converting his xG to goals in EPL and was slightly above average in Bundeslega - and not even Kane who were pretty good at 181.91 xG leading to 210 goals which came are out to 15% above average. Jesus is terrible. Played 6 years getting fed by silver platter from KBD and never finished plus xG NEVER scored 15 goals in a league. Total goals score for 7 years are 69 where an average footballer should've scored 92.23 goals. That is two standard deviation worse than average.
Son is in the top 3 finishers in the World. If he had played main man ahead of Kane would have been interesting how many more goals he would have scored. He had an off season last season and so many people are knee jerk pushing him down the list
10. Jesus - there's a reason Arsenal are linked with Toney, amazing player not exactly clinical 9. Watkins - good finisher, doesn't really move me when I watch him 8. Awoniyi - absolute physical beast arguably could be higher seems like a nightmare for any defender 7. Wilson - cool finisher, similar to Watkins he doesn't move me with his overall game 6. Ferguson - amazing for his age and only going to improve 5. Nunez - I think they didn't rate him because he isn't a consistent starter but has always been a game changer whether he scores or not 4. Isak - All around game is incredible (like Jesus) except he's a better finisher and a more physical presence 3. Alvarez - Would be the starting no.9 for any other team in the league and has made a big impact despite being behind Haaland 2. Sonarguably the deadliest finisher in league, not his best season last year but looks at his best now that he's the main goal scorer for Spurs 1. Haaland - annoyingly good
Reev is 100% correct . There’s a reason Man City let Jesus go and went and got haaland he couldn’t play as a 9 hes a quality footballer but as a 9 he’s poor.
@@JTmonarch exactly!! Everyone was saying Pep needed a striker with Aguero being hurt, yet Pep didn’t play Jesus at striker cuz he knew that they wouldn’t be able to win like that, he then put him on the wing and made play so wide that he was rarely involved in the games but he would press the whole time. Also Arsenal fans were wanting another striker this summer, they say something different to Jesus but in reality they want someone better than Jesus at number 9 as a goalscorer
@@danielgreen8406 mate he’s had 6 big chances missed this season and only converted two of those big chances. If he was consistently scoring a goal and getting an assist game in and game out I’ll give him the props but he doesn’t even start. Awoniyi is having a better season so far and he’s playing with a way weaker team than Liverpool
@@eleazarbeltran64632 years ago he had the best Goals/assists per minutes ratio out of every striker in the top european leagues, last year he hit double figures in his first season in the toughest league in the world not speaking the language and being rotated and injured a lot... But I guess you think he has been shit because of memes and internet trolls portraying him like that, even though you hardly watched him play 🤡
@@jamieowen4174half of the players on the list don't have the same output nor a 20 goal a season jota is capable of, also he comes clutch in big games
Alvarez has 4 goals and 4 assists this season and is starting every game. Tom said he’s not important to city. The ball knowledgable of this show is on the floor😂
@@Bewuga123his underrated what you smoking💀 18 goals and 5 assists while missing out on half his games to isak, stick to fifa lad just making yourself look silly
the wilson disrespect is mental, fewest minutes per goal in europe in 2023, 18 in the prem last season whilst rotating with isak, and closing in on 100 PL goals, the guys a top top striker
Newcastle could sign haaland, win the league with him scoring 50+ goals and tom wouldnt put him 1st cos he plays for Newcastle 😂 the agenda is getting boring mate
Pep was playing Foden, KDB and Gundogan instead of Gabriel as a false 9 in 20/21 and 21/22 which tells all you need to know about Jesus as a striker. Amazing on the ball but horrible finisher, he can’t be in the top 3.
Foden played left wing and it was de bruyne gundogan and silva in midfield so having them over a 23 jesus isn’t crazy and if he wasn’t good why do think played Jesus in both champions league semi final games against Real Madrid
Plus this season Wilson averages a goal every 70 odd mins. I know Lewis is a Newcastle fan. But here, he’s spot on about Wilson. Yet everyone just refuses to believe him and calls him bias. Its so dumb
Before I watch here's my list: Haaland Son (now that he's moved to ST) Alvarez Toney Isak (Toney and Isak are close for me) Jesus Ferguson Wilson Watkins Nunez (Hojlund didn't make it cause I haven't seen enough and honourable mention to Awoniyi and Jota)
Actually one of the more accurate ones I've seen. Ferguson perhaps 1-2 too high for me and Nunez 1-2 low, but the top 5 are right and Jesus is where he should be when you consider his all round play but mark him down for his lack of goals.
@@sparktom5841 Nunez is first choice and has one of the best XG p90’s, he’s harshly criticised because haaland scored 30, he’s easily a top 5 ST, he creates, progresses the ball, scores and holds up the ball very well
@@LLR100 last season in his first full year in a struggling lfc side he was averaging in the league 0.76 xG p90 and 0.3 xA and average 1 goal per 2 games. Translates to 18 league goals over a whole campaign of mins. This season he’s on 1.52 xG p90 and 0.25 xA which is brilliant. Whilst also significantly improving pressures p90. His underlying numbers are incredible.
@@filly8105 i read somewhere that it was 10 in all comps but if im wrong fair enough but my point still stands thats more than most of the players on this list hes gotta be higher
Hojlund has fuck all goals or assists...explain that? Darwin scored 2 decent goals after being subbed on 1 nil down and with 10 men...and since that game has contributed alot in every game with more goals and assists just let him cook we've got utd soon we want 8 we want 8 we want 8 😂😂😂😂
nunez has the best G/A per min ratio in all comps from prem players this season with 6 in 336 mins, reev didnt even put him in...... these lists are terrible.
Jesus is one of those players that people like to laud over because of his technical ability, but he's technical ability doesn't change whether he's doing the job of a striker to score buckets of goals, especially for a top 4 team, rate it Reev. Edit: Just as a frame of reference this is a striker who's never got over 15 goals in the league and has only got into double figures 3 times in the league
Jesus is a quality player. He’s a better overall player than a lot of strikers but if you’re talking about natural goalscorers then there is better out there.
@@Callumh1113 He missed 13 games and is generally over the years a 1 in 3 striker so even playing those games his most likely end product would have been 15 for the season, which is great, but it's not top 2 in the Premier League great. Let alone he's 1 in 3 record is very consistent playing from wide at City to 9 at Arsenal now which shows he's actually no better at 9 than he is at LW, which again is a great option to have but not top 2 number 9 specifically.
Firmino didn’t score much either but brought the two wingers into the game incredibly well. Arsenal scored the most goals they ever have in their prem history last year
Nunez is top 4 easily and jota is right up there this hurts my brain as is gakpo if you’re counting him as a number 9 also Tom is wrong nunez has nailed down that starting spot in the 9 for Liverpool honestly it’s painful
Lmao Liverpool fans always provide a good laugh. If someone has Darwin top 4 right now it is a pretty clear indication that they may be suffering from mental retardation. Jota definitely deserves a shout for the past few seasons but as of now he gets nowhere near this list. And don’t even get me started on gakpo 😂😂😂
I don't no what ur smoking but u should continue that and don't ever comment because u have 0 knowledge dude 😂😂😂 go and use steroids and spend time at hospital like ur profile pic guy
Nunez isn't top 4 but he's very good. He's not better than Haaland, Alvarez, Son or Isak (Toney not included). He scores lots of goals but he misses too much chances (last season) to be top 4 just yet.
Wilson is class 👍If Wilson didn't have all the injuries he's had then he'd be in the 100 club by now. He'll definitely get in the 100 club in the future no doubt about it. He's currently on 83 Premier League goals.
The disrespect to Theo is ridiculous. Reev has classic number 9’s which makes his points valid. Toms argument about they look a better player doesn’t make them a better 9. How can you disagree with Reevs comments.
@@maxm7365 Pep preferred to play Bernardo silva or Sterling at cf than jesus. Richarlison or Pedro keep him out of the Brazil team. The only team he can get a game at 9 is Arsenal because he’s competing with nketiah who doesn’t start for any team in the top 12
@@rajaewatson7232 the Brazil manager also selects Ederson over Alisson so surely he’s a better goalkeeper if he’s such a mastermind of a manager? And Pep prefers Grealish to Doku so that must mean he’s better too then by your logic
Why do the majority of people back Tom ?? Just because someone believes they’re right more than anyone else does it doesn’t mean they are. Got to give it to Theo here , for sure the best
Theo having Isak that low is so shocking, then he put Jesus 2nd, Arsenal fans wanted another striker this summer because they don’t believe fully in Jesus. That’s why Pep never played him at ST because he needs a lot of chances to score goals
My list is this roast me if you want I'm basing it on the same as reev best no.9s in the prem 1. Haaland 2. Alvarez 3. Isak 4. Watkins 5. Son 6. Wilson 7. Ferguson 8. Awonyi 9. Jesus 10. Nunes
I’m a city fan and the Jesus disrespect is crazy, haaland isak and Jesus need to be top 3 hands down (son and Alvarez aren’t strikers at the moment rn)
Now I’ve started to watch it the pale vest boy says Wilson is above Jesus because he’s a better finisher but has son at 7 when he’s levels above Wilson at finishing what a strange bunch these 3 are
Reevs list is the best Jesus highest goal scoring season is 14 which was about 4 years ago. warra striker. Tom and Theo literally just making shit up lmao jesus never scored alot for city lmfao.
Keep underrating Awoniyi. the bloke has 11g/a in 10 games and went 9 consecutive games producing a contribution. if you’re talking about a true 9 and form he’s far too low.
Reev is the only one out of those three that actually knows what hes talking about. There is a reason city played zinchenko at false 9 that one game instead of jesus
Alvarez starts up front for Man Utd, failing that he starts rw over Anthony, he walks into every other team in the league, not many teams in Europe he doesn’t walk into
Possibly the worst set of lists I've ever seen. Y'all over rating Jesus and under rating Nunez & Wilson. If you're talking just this season, having Hojlund in there is shocking.
1. Haaland 2. Álvarez but he plays as no.10 now 3. Son 4. Ferguson 5. Isak 6. Nunez 7. Watkins 8. Wilson 9. Jesus he missed like 20 chances this season alone 😂 10. Awoniyi
Ferguson is not better than Isak or Wilson. Not yet at least. Watkins isn’t better than the two. Alvarez isn’t better than the two in a better team. Better player overall maybe but not strikers.
@@Kristian-wj9up Álvarez is 10x better than them, they can talk to him if they will ever score a brace in a World Cup semi final 🤣 and Ferguson is also miles clear of these 2 he literally scored a hattrick against Newcastle and top clubs are already interested in him
@@J1rkaa18 in what metric? Not goal scoring in a much better team? he’s better technically but he’s not a better striker? Ferguson scored a hat trick? And? Wilson has consistently proven he’s a goalscorer. I guarantee he’ll have more goals that Ferguson this season.
@@Kristian-wj9up the team is much better team because of Álvarez but that would be too much for your brain. Wilson is proven goal scorer? Against who? Fullham, Norwich, Brentford? 🤣🤣🤣
@@yukonadventurexc hojlund on this list is too early tbh. But yea Awoniyi is scoring for forest not liverpool. And doing it more consistently. But I wouldn’t mind having nuñez above him either way
Does Reev actually watch football man, how has he got 2 Newcastle strikers in the top 4 , half there games were nil nil , and then had no Liverpool striker in the top 10, what joker man😂😂😭
Gabriel jesus is not a proper striker. He's not got that killer instinct. Pep guardiola knew that because a littany of midfield players started in a false 9 role ahead of jesus. He was pushed out onto the wing or left on the bench because he's too profligate. If jesus was the 2nd best winger itl he'd still be at city.
Reev is also speaking facts about Alvarez, regardless of where he’s currently deployed he would be every team bar City’s best striker. Go back and watch the liverpool game Haaland missed last year and you’ll see Alvarez could easily, easily lead the line for us without Haaland. He was also the starting striker for an Argentina team that literally won the World Cup, idk how it can get more elite than that.
Was he tho
@@coopersmith9985he was the third top scorer in the World Cup without pens bro don’t act dumb
@@n4ht4n80 bro thinks I watch Argentina
@@n4ht4n80 do pens not count?
@@coopersmith9985 not watching the World Cup is embarrassing ngl
Jesus has the worst finishing according to xG amongst top strikers. Every season criminally under performs his xG. How can anyone say he is not an awful finisher amongst other players of a similar level is bizarre
xG is a very useless stat without context if you want to look at xG and BCMs you’d say Haaland hasn’t had a great start to this season👍
@@maxm7365 no it wouldnt, haaland performed around his xG, but usually he overperforms its over a season because hes a great finisher. Goals compared to xG is literally the best stat for determining finishing. Jesus may have some good qualities such as generating more chances for himself to generate that extra xG but he cant finish his dinner. Literally so obvious to see Jesus cant finish I cant believe there are people who actually think otherwise its mental
Facts. This is why Brazil fans hate him, he is a complete dud for them.
All I have to say about Jesus is that Pep played foden as a false 9 over Jesus. Pep had a st but would rather use a midfielder/winger in that role. Jesus is good but not that good
Jesus has scored 70 prem goals into his 8th prem season, only double figures 3x..... Think Reev had a blinder and silly Theo and shouty Tom have an L on their hands
The issue with trying to debate Nunez is people don't actually watch every Liverpool game, so the perception is he only misses good chances. Ignoring the fact he still hit double figures last season despite injuries and being rotated a lot, he causes more issues for defences than any other striker in the league that isn't Haaland. Go watch the Villa game last month and ask Pau Torres if he'd rather play against Darwin or Watkins, I guarantee he's picking Watkins 99 times out of 100.
He didn’t cause more problems than Kane
@@sillepille1867Kane plays in the Bundesliga mate
you didn't watch any of his games against city have you?@@merlinbotha363
I think nunez is good and getting better, and those 2 goals vs newcastle showed what he can be imo, but he still has problems. I think he can easily be top 5 by the end of the season, but I still think he needs to prove it.
@@merlinbotha363 Newcastle had the joint best defence last season in the league, Nunez scored against them and then scored twice against them this season.
Also scored against Arsenal, City (and assisted) and Real Madrid last season. You can be as solid as you want but he's quicker, stronger and jumps higher than most defenders, which means it's the solid defences he usually does well against.
Can't remember a defence that actually kept him quiet, he always gets himself 1 good chance a game. This season he's becoming more clinical and if he does get 20+ goals this season (already on 4 in 3 starts) then it won't even be an argument he's at least top 5
hojlund 5th with 0 premier league goals is crazy man
He's also scored 1 goal and stopped 1 goal so far, but that gets him 5th on current form apparently 🤔
almost like there’s more to his game than just goals… honestly the way people use stats to judge players nowadays is embarrassing, you haven’t even watched him play
@@jamesedwards3410yeah but top 5 is just ridiculous
@@jamesedwards3410when you’re picking from the best you have to look at stats, thats what separates them. Hojlund’s been decent but he’s only played like 3 games, its too early for him to be on here. Guarantee you watkins, isak, wilson, etc would have score more goals at the point for united. They’re good without scoring goals as well but what seperated them is how many goals they have
@@jamesedwards3410let me guess because he presses means hes top 5?
Hojlund who hasn’t scored a single premier league goal as number 5 is criminal. Toms been taking so many Ls lately.
As a United fan I wouldn’t put him in the top 15-20 maybe, doesn’t mean he can’t be there in the future
Hes only just got here but he's up there technically speaking
Tom is a L
Scored a CL goal against Bayern though
@@patrickhall9309give him the ballondor then
Reev using finishing as his argument and having Son that low, one of the most clinical players in world football and someone who hasn't missed a big chance this season, is top tier waffle.
2nd in the golden boot race too
@@reevlike what??? What part of his game isn’t there? His build up and ball carrying is elite. Ridiculous
@@reevbro you used finishing and scoring as a pure no 9 as a whole argument to put Jesus down and then went on to put a guy who doesn’t even play as a striker whose whole game doesn’t revolve around being a pure no 9 as the 2nd best striker in the prem ,brilliant
@@101notfound17leave him alone he's not alright in the head. matter of fact none of them are
Sons not a striker IMO he shouldn’t be on the list at all
Gabriel Jesus the second best striker in the league hahahaha, these arsenal fans man, career best is 14 goals in the league for the premier league winners
Edit: retract my arsenal fans statement, it’s just Theo, he’s unwatchable at times
Don’t usually agree with the Specky one but Theo putting Watkins ahead of isak is horrible 😭🤣
As a villa fan I agree
@@thomasbelcher3283 that’s the thing villa fans and people who actually watch watkins know he’s decent but not top 5 in prem🤣 these people like theo just look at the Fotmob stats
The specks one🤣😭
Speck needs to pipe down
If Watkins was more clinical he’d genuinely be one of the best strikers in the world in my opinion. But it pains me as a Villa fan watching him every week miss sitters. But he’s hold up play and constant running and stretching defences is flawless.
Even as a Spurs fan Nunez is highly underrated here, its insane. And Gabriel Jesus is easily the worst No9 in the Top 6 teams but if Arsenal want to continue with him then thats fine by me xD. Its not a coincidence that they are highly linked with Toney and every Arsenal fan that I know wants Toney...Gabriel Jesus just isnt him
Dude how about Son. All he does is score goals. I put Son at number two best striker in the league behind Haaland
If the "number 9 argument is that you need them to score goals" then why is Son number 7
@@SportsUniqueFootage Exactly xD
@@SportsUniqueFootagebecause he's a left winger not a striker so shouldn't have even been in the list
@@patrickhall9309 actually son's known for his versatility bro, he plays #9 now that kanes gone, amd has done so throughout his career, especially under jose, under poch and now postecoglou. Son's a number 9 who can play on either wing. And he's not a left winger, he's an inside forward
I honestly can’t believe Darwin Nunez has been done so dirty, especially by recency bias merchants like Theo and Lewis
they just dont like him or liverpool i guess
Honestly hes arguably the 2nd or 3rd best striker in this list if its based on current form
Reev not having him in the list, but having Solanke at 10 is a howler.
Top 5 strikers are
1st Haaland
2nd Son
3rd Nunez
4th Isak
5th Alvarez
@@sethnolev4820 This is literally recency bias
Solanke and Awoniyi over Nunez ? 😂 people just love to be different, Nunez literally turned the game around Newcastle and he’s been great this season. Solanke couldn’t even cut it at Liverpool. It’s alright, we’ll look back at the end of the season.
Nunez over solanke but not Awoniyi
Neither did Awoniyi.
@@george.a8757are you crazy darwin is so much better then all of them combined except haaland and alvarez
Awonyi and solace 2 Liverpool rejects over Nunez is crazy
Awoniyi is just a better Number 9
Reev is spot on with his arguement but Son should be higher on the list. #9's are meant to finish and be in the right positions to score goals, Haaland barely touches the ball yet when he has a chance he finishes it. Watkins over Jesus is fully justified as Watkins is the more clinical finisher and his positioning is great.
Exactly, sometimes I can’t listen to Theo talk ball because he constantly contradicts himself trying to be right. The striker scores first and foremost. I’m a city fan, i fucking love Gabby still, realistically as a striker he simply is not clinical enough. Especially in teams like city and arsenal where there’s so many chances created, you don’t need your striker involved everywhere, you need him parked in or around the 18 yard box scoring goals. Also agree with the Son point, I genuinely think he’s only low because it’s hard to think of him as a striker still.
There are different types of strikers. Strikers like haaland are mainly there to score goals and be a target man but strikers like Jesus can be seen as false 9 sort of strikers who offer a lot of things haaland doesn’t. Kind of like how pep has ederson in goal, he’s not one of the best shot stoppers in the world (like scoring for a striker) but he is with his feet so that’s why pep wants him (like the other things Jesus offers)
The disrespectful on Jota. He’s scored more against Arsenal than they’ve scored against us since he arrived🤣
Dont think theyve classed him as a striker i guess
@@Callumh1113jota is more of a striker than Son is.
@@amolmehrotra1296i wouldnt have son in this debate either
i am so vexed nunez at 9 and 10?????? hojland at 5?????? what has he done tom has had a stinker
that dude havent even scored a goal in the league! like WTF? top 5?
Son's 8+ years of EPL xG is 81.18 where he scored 108 goals for +26.82. That's full 33% above average footballer. No one is in his neighborhood. Not Haaland - he is bang average converting his xG to goals in EPL and was slightly above average in Bundeslega - and not even Kane who were pretty good at 181.91 xG leading to 210 goals which came are out to 15% above average. Jesus is terrible. Played 6 years getting fed by silver platter from KBD and never finished plus xG NEVER scored 15 goals in a league. Total goals score for 7 years are 69 where an average footballer should've scored 92.23 goals. That is two standard deviation worse than average.
Son is in the top 3 finishers in the World. If he had played main man ahead of Kane would have been interesting how many more goals he would have scored. He had an off season last season and so many people are knee jerk pushing him down the list
@@eldante4139i can't think of 2 better finishers than him in the world
Bringing up his xg for seasons he played as a winger isn’t exactly relevant when talking about the best strikers in the league is it?
@@HAZZAHIS You might not know about this but "wingers" shoot at same goals as "strikers" facing same defenders/goal keepers.
They are english always racist
10. Jesus - there's a reason Arsenal are linked with Toney, amazing player not exactly clinical
9. Watkins - good finisher, doesn't really move me when I watch him
8. Awoniyi - absolute physical beast arguably could be higher seems like a nightmare for any defender
7. Wilson - cool finisher, similar to Watkins he doesn't move me with his overall game
6. Ferguson - amazing for his age and only going to improve
5. Nunez - I think they didn't rate him because he isn't a consistent starter but has always been a game changer whether he scores or not
4. Isak - All around game is incredible (like Jesus) except he's a better finisher and a more physical presence
3. Alvarez - Would be the starting no.9 for any other team in the league and has made a big impact despite being behind Haaland
2. Sonarguably the deadliest finisher in league, not his best season last year but looks at his best now that he's the main goal scorer for Spurs
1. Haaland - annoyingly good
Rly truth
Nunez and Jota as strikers are so underrated and disrespected.
Never expected these lot to rate any Liverpool players anyway.
They better be classing Jota as a winger and Gakpo as a false 9 otherwise my heads gonna fall off. Solanke and Awoniyi give over hahaha
Reev is 100% correct . There’s a reason Man City let Jesus go and went and got haaland he couldn’t play as a 9 hes a quality footballer but as a 9 he’s poor.
Do people realize that when he was at city that city rather have played kdb or foden in a false 9 then play jesus at striker
@@JTmonarch exactly!! Everyone was saying Pep needed a striker with Aguero being hurt, yet Pep didn’t play Jesus at striker cuz he knew that they wouldn’t be able to win like that, he then put him on the wing and made play so wide that he was rarely involved in the games but he would press the whole time. Also Arsenal fans were wanting another striker this summer, they say something different to Jesus but in reality they want someone better than Jesus at number 9 as a goalscorer
Glad someone said this, most overrated number 9 in the league
People hating on Lewis when Tom and Theo are quietly having ball knowledge nightmares
the hate towards darwin nunez is fucking mental
mate he’s been shit for almost 2 years. just a couple games ago OFF THE BENCH he’s scoring. As a starter he’s useless
@@eleazarbeltran6463you don’t watch the games clearly
@@eleazarbeltran6463 u have no clue mate
@@danielgreen8406 mate he’s had 6 big chances missed this season and only converted two of those big chances. If he was consistently scoring a goal and getting an assist game in and game out I’ll give him the props but he doesn’t even start. Awoniyi is having a better season so far and he’s playing with a way weaker team than Liverpool
@@eleazarbeltran64632 years ago he had the best Goals/assists per minutes ratio out of every striker in the top european leagues, last year he hit double figures in his first season in the toughest league in the world not speaking the language and being rotated and injured a lot...
But I guess you think he has been shit because of memes and internet trolls portraying him like that, even though you hardly watched him play 🤡
Can i just mention how criminally under rated Diogo Jota is
no ahaha hes no where near top 10
@@jamieowen4174Did he say he was?
Your welcome to mention him. Just as I'm welcome to not listen
He’s somewhat position-less. If he was Liverpool’s striker week in week out hed be in here
@@jamieowen4174half of the players on the list don't have the same output nor a 20 goal a season jota is capable of, also he comes clutch in big games
Their ball knowledge based on this episode:
Reev
Theo
Tom (Hojlund take takes it, he has amazing potential but right now he is maybe like 10-15th)
Alvarez has 4 goals and 4 assists this season and is starting every game. Tom said he’s not important to city. The ball knowledgable of this show is on the floor😂
Reev bang on about jesus, guy misses about 2 big chances a game Theo got his arsenal glasses on again
Can’t wait for Lewis to put Wilson above Haaland
Wilson is the most overated striker in the prem. He's a mid team player
@@Bewuga123you don’t Watch Newcastle if that’s your opinion
18 goals last season
@@Bewuga123his underrated what you smoking💀 18 goals and 5 assists while missing out on half his games to isak, stick to fifa lad just making yourself look silly
Wilson is not a Haaland or an Alvarez or a Jesus or a son he just isn't. He's a 7-10 place player
Tom said what evidence do we have of Alvarez at 9. Did he watch the world cup?
Then puts hojlund at 5 who hasn’t even scored a premier league goal yet. The blokes clueless
Alvarez has played midfield all of this season that’s what he’s based it on
I love how much these guys underrate Liverpool players
the wilson disrespect is mental, fewest minutes per goal in europe in 2023, 18 in the prem last season whilst rotating with isak, and closing in on 100 PL goals, the guys a top top striker
1- Haaland
2- Son
3 - Isak
4 - Alvarez
5 - Jota
6 - Jesus
7 - Darwin
8 - Wilson
9 - Ferguson
10 - Watkins
I’d swap Wilson and Darwin like but pretty spot on
Based on what?
@@Kristian-wj9up
@@Kristian-wj9up all subjective but at least we all agree the lists on the video stank.
Gakpo, Jota and Nunez all so criminally underrated
gakpo doesn't play there
Newcastle could sign haaland, win the league with him scoring 50+ goals and tom wouldnt put him 1st cos he plays for Newcastle 😂 the agenda is getting boring mate
They all have pretty solid takes but Tom is just missing again and again
Pep was playing Foden, KDB and Gundogan instead of Gabriel as a false 9 in 20/21 and 21/22 which tells all you need to know about Jesus as a striker.
Amazing on the ball but horrible finisher, he can’t be in the top 3.
Foden played left wing and it was de bruyne gundogan and silva in midfield so having them over a 23 jesus isn’t crazy and if he wasn’t good why do think played Jesus in both champions league semi final games against Real Madrid
@@dddffr4392no one said he wasnt great
He just isnt a great number 9
@@cheesefactor1761 he’s a number 9 so if he’s a great player, he’s a great number 9
@@dddffr4392 he has a shit conversion rate and he barely scores and misses so many big changes
Great player, horrendously shit 9
callum wilson last season 105 min' / goal and jesus is 189 min' / goal (dont forget he was injuried for a while)
Plus this season Wilson averages a goal every 70 odd mins. I know Lewis is a Newcastle fan. But here, he’s spot on about Wilson. Yet everyone just refuses to believe him and calls him bias. Its so dumb
hes good just not better then jesus@@F1P1AdacoL
Before I watch here's my list:
Haaland
Son (now that he's moved to ST)
Alvarez
Toney
Isak (Toney and Isak are close for me)
Jesus
Ferguson
Wilson
Watkins
Nunez
(Hojlund didn't make it cause I haven't seen enough and honourable mention to Awoniyi and Jota)
That’s a decent list ngl
Actually one of the more accurate ones I've seen. Ferguson perhaps 1-2 too high for me and Nunez 1-2 low, but the top 5 are right and Jesus is where he should be when you consider his all round play but mark him down for his lack of goals.
Was about to say what about Awoniyi but then read the honourable mentions aha
@@LiamJM10Ferguson is definitely better than Watkins and will prove he’s without a doubt better than Wilson when he starts playing more consistently
Shit list Nunez way too low
How is Hojlund 5th on Toms list? He’s proven absolutely nothing close to be up there and Darwin has been brilliant since he signed
I understand the argument of hojlund not being on the list but nunez has been underwhelming since he signed that’s why he’s not first choice
@@sparktom5841 Nunez is first choice and has one of the best XG p90’s, he’s harshly criticised because haaland scored 30, he’s easily a top 5 ST, he creates, progresses the ball, scores and holds up the ball very well
Nunez??? Brilliant ??😂
@@LLR100 last season in his first full year in a struggling lfc side he was averaging in the league 0.76 xG p90 and 0.3 xA and average 1 goal per 2 games. Translates to 18 league goals over a whole campaign of mins. This season he’s on 1.52 xG p90 and 0.25 xA which is brilliant. Whilst also significantly improving pressures p90. His underlying numbers are incredible.
@@ajayagath5976talking facts but you’ll never win because it’s always 19 vs 1 in these debates because everyone hates Liverpool.
Gakpo and jota never seem to be mentioned even tho they have got more game time and have a really good record
because they don't know ball 😆
Both suck
They're not strikers, genius 🤦♂️
yeah they are. Just versatile. @@RossF1892
these muppets know shit. that guy put HOJLUND on top 5 without even scoring a goal in the league tells u everything.
Lewis caught out Tom nicely with the Hojlund stuff
If Arsenal have the 2nd best striker in the league why is the entire fanbase begging for Toney in January???
Im sorry but nunez has 10g/a already this season he has to be higher
he has 7 G/A stop making his image worse by lying about stats, (4 goals and 3 OPTA assists)
@@filly8105 i read somewhere that it was 10 in all comps but if im wrong fair enough but my point still stands thats more than most of the players on this list hes gotta be higher
Hojlund has fuck all goals or assists...explain that? Darwin scored 2 decent goals after being subbed on 1 nil down and with 10 men...and since that game has contributed alot in every game with more goals and assists just let him cook we've got utd soon we want 8 we want 8 we want 8 😂😂😂😂
The fact that you do not know about Nunez G/A proves you hardly ever watch him play. He’s not under Top 10 as a 9 for now.
@@filly8105 and HOJLUND who hasnt even scored a goal in the league is top 5? what a joke
Wilson is criminally underrated and gives you what you want from a striker. Goals.
only one here who knows ball. The fact that people say wilson is overated but he had more prem goals than rashford in the 22/23 season.
And injurys
@@adamreed2486 and was still just behind Kane and Haaland for goals in the premier league last season. You don’t know football
nunez has the best G/A per min ratio in all comps from prem players this season with 6 in 336 mins, reev didnt even put him in...... these lists are terrible.
he will@@KingOfTheWorld163
Jesus is one of those players that people like to laud over because of his technical ability, but he's technical ability doesn't change whether he's doing the job of a striker to score buckets of goals, especially for a top 4 team, rate it Reev.
Edit: Just as a frame of reference this is a striker who's never got over 15 goals in the league and has only got into double figures 3 times in the league
Jesus is a quality player. He’s a better overall player than a lot of strikers but if you’re talking about natural goalscorers then there is better out there.
Scored 11 goals in the league last season with 4 months out tbf
@@Callumh1113 He missed 13 games and is generally over the years a 1 in 3 striker so even playing those games his most likely end product would have been 15 for the season, which is great, but it's not top 2 in the Premier League great. Let alone he's 1 in 3 record is very consistent playing from wide at City to 9 at Arsenal now which shows he's actually no better at 9 than he is at LW, which again is a great option to have but not top 2 number 9 specifically.
Firmino didn’t score much either but brought the two wingers into the game incredibly well. Arsenal scored the most goals they ever have in their prem history last year
@@jodaco3869 As a false 9 not a out and out 9
Reev specky W I heard
Nunez is top 4 easily and jota is right up there this hurts my brain as is gakpo if you’re counting him as a number 9 also Tom is wrong nunez has nailed down that starting spot in the 9 for Liverpool honestly it’s painful
Lmao Liverpool fans always provide a good laugh. If someone has Darwin top 4 right now it is a pretty clear indication that they may be suffering from mental retardation. Jota definitely deserves a shout for the past few seasons but as of now he gets nowhere near this list. And don’t even get me started on gakpo 😂😂😂
@@pogbamoney9415 go on then get started on gakpo...
I don't no what ur smoking but u should continue that and don't ever comment because u have 0 knowledge dude 😂😂😂 go and use steroids and spend time at hospital like ur profile pic guy
@@pogbamoney9415 we'll see who's laughing in may lad
Nunez isn't top 4 but he's very good. He's not better than Haaland, Alvarez, Son or Isak (Toney not included).
He scores lots of goals but he misses too much chances (last season) to be top 4 just yet.
3 months down the line Højlund 16apps 2 goals. Gareth Howler
lol
The interaction baiting is unreal, the fact that Darwin is ranked so low and Jota isn't even mentioned is mental, absolute joke of a footie podcast
Wilson is class 👍If Wilson didn't have all the injuries he's had then he'd be in the 100 club by now. He'll definitely get in the 100 club in the future no doubt about it. He's currently on 83 Premier League goals.
watkins just scored a hatrick against brighton...
The disrespect to Theo is ridiculous. Reev has classic number 9’s which makes his points valid. Toms argument about they look a better player doesn’t make them a better 9. How can you disagree with Reevs comments.
They’re arguing over different things. Jesus is a quality player but there are better goalscorers in the league.
@@James-bd1ew but what do you want out a player that’s main role in the team is to convert chances??
These lads are honestly criminal. I’ll just let it rest and see Darwin cook this season
Jesus barely goes in the box and Richardson keeps him out of Brazil team
Maguire keeps Colwill out of the England team is he better than him?
@@maxm7365 Pep preferred to play Bernardo silva or Sterling at cf than jesus. Richarlison or Pedro keep him out of the Brazil team. The only team he can get a game at 9 is Arsenal because he’s competing with nketiah who doesn’t start for any team in the top 12
@@rajaewatson7232 the Brazil manager also selects Ederson over Alisson so surely he’s a better goalkeeper if he’s such a mastermind of a manager? And Pep prefers Grealish to Doku so that must mean he’s better too then by your logic
@@maxm7365no he doesn't, allison started all Brazil's World Cup games
@@maxm7365Richarlison's record for Brazil is much better than Jesus though. Jesus has scored 1 goal for Brazil in 4.5 years.
Why do the majority of people back Tom ?? Just because someone believes they’re right more than anyone else does it doesn’t mean they are. Got to give it to Theo here , for sure the best
watching this 10 months down the line is gold
Awoniyi is the most underated striker in the league
Theo having Isak that low is so shocking, then he put Jesus 2nd, Arsenal fans wanted another striker this summer because they don’t believe fully in Jesus. That’s why Pep never played him at ST because he needs a lot of chances to score goals
reevs list is perfect bar watkins
U think solanke is better than nunez? I'm a united fan and even I know that's blasphemy
@@drfrappuccino108 didn't really care abt the 10th tbh, current form nunez 10th probably yeah
@@robertgourley7260 current form nunez 10th shows you know literally nothing about football, absolute clown
My list is this roast me if you want I'm basing it on the same as reev best no.9s in the prem
1. Haaland
2. Alvarez
3. Isak
4. Watkins
5. Son
6. Wilson
7. Ferguson
8. Awonyi
9. Jesus
10. Nunes
Newcastle fan is completely correct on this one 🎉
Callum Wilson as second? Really? Other than that is was decent
I’m a city fan and the Jesus disrespect is crazy, haaland isak and Jesus need to be top 3 hands down (son and Alvarez aren’t strikers at the moment rn)
Solanke ahead of Nunez?
1.Haaland
2.Alvarez
3.Son
4.Isak
5.Jesus
6.Nunez
7.Wilson
8.Ferguson
9.Hojlund
10.Watkins
I feel ill how is nunez not top 5
17:51 You do know Wilson got more assists (5) than Ivan Toney (4) last season. Talks fucking tripe Tom like 😂🤣
Bro how are they not reacting to Reev saying Son at 7, like what??? Son is better than Watkins, and almost all of the other players besides Haaland
Solanke over Nunez?? Watch a game of football, it’s actually shocking
Facts
Lewis not having Son in his list is criminal...
More than happy for this special lot to underrate Liverpool all season. Keep doing it
Just about to watch this, if son isn’t in the top 3 then they are blind
Now I’ve started to watch it the pale vest boy says Wilson is above Jesus because he’s a better finisher but has son at 7 when he’s levels above Wilson at finishing what a strange bunch these 3 are
Nunez is one of the best strikers in the league this season, these guys actually have horrendous ball knowledge
Foden, KDB, Sterling, Grealish, Mahrez and Gundo all have something in common. They all started in as a false 9 over Gabriel Jesus at City.
The disrespect on Nuñez is criminal
Lewis somehow had the best list, it was shocking but that's how bad the other lists were
How you 3 have a podcast talking about football is beyond me 🤣
The fact they get money for their insight is an absolute disgrace. Makes a mockery out of people who work hard for a living.
@@Kristian-wj9up could not agree more
Liverpool have 3 top 10 strikers. If you disagree your just biased, jota gakpo and Nunez start for 90% of prem teams.
They are clueless
Reevs list is the best
Jesus highest goal scoring season is 14 which was about 4 years ago. warra striker. Tom and Theo literally just making shit up lmao jesus never scored alot for city lmfao.
lol the disrespect on liverpool is insane
Keep underrating Awoniyi. the bloke has 11g/a in 10 games and went 9 consecutive games producing a contribution. if you’re talking about a true 9 and form he’s far too low.
Yeah mate 10 good games when some players have seasons of been good. But u think he should be higher 😂😂
@@callumlomax456 the debate is about form, you sound stupid. 16g/a in 22 starts since joining.
As a city fan who’s watched Jesus got 5/6 years, Jesus was world class at everything other than being a striker who put the ball in the net..
Lewis cooked Tom on hoijulnd tbh
this aged well for Reev
Reev is the only one out of those three that actually knows what hes talking about. There is a reason city played zinchenko at false 9 that one game instead of jesus
knows what he’s talking about but says dom solanke is better than nunez🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tom creasing about Wilson at 2nd had me crying🤣
Liverpool 3 underrated !!
Alvarez starts up front for Man Utd, failing that he starts rw over Anthony, he walks into every other team in the league, not many teams in Europe he doesn’t walk into
Common Reev W
Gakpo and nunez top 5 but whatever. Arsenal fans will be arsenal fans
Darwin is second best in the league
I wouldn't go that far but he's definitely top 5
Possibly the worst set of lists I've ever seen. Y'all over rating Jesus and under rating Nunez & Wilson.
If you're talking just this season, having Hojlund in there is shocking.
Watkins is the most overrated striker in the prem. Gen cannot finish for shit.
Haaland
Isak
Hoijland
Son
Ferguson
Watkins
Toney
Jota
Jesus
Alvarez
Rate it out of 10
1. Haaland
2. Álvarez but he plays as no.10 now
3. Son
4. Ferguson
5. Isak
6. Nunez
7. Watkins
8. Wilson
9. Jesus he missed like 20 chances this season alone 😂
10. Awoniyi
Ferguson is not better than Isak or Wilson. Not yet at least. Watkins isn’t better than the two. Alvarez isn’t better than the two in a better team. Better player overall maybe but not strikers.
@@Kristian-wj9up Álvarez is 10x better than them, they can talk to him if they will ever score a brace in a World Cup semi final 🤣 and Ferguson is also miles clear of these 2 he literally scored a hattrick against Newcastle and top clubs are already interested in him
@@J1rkaa18 in what metric? Not goal scoring in a much better team? he’s better technically but he’s not a better striker? Ferguson scored a hat trick? And? Wilson has consistently proven he’s a goalscorer. I guarantee he’ll have more goals that Ferguson this season.
@@Kristian-wj9up the team is much better team because of Álvarez but that would be too much for your brain. Wilson is proven goal scorer? Against who? Fullham, Norwich, Brentford? 🤣🤣🤣
typical theo not listening when he disagrees. reevs point was fkn spot on about gab
This is a wild list by all of them. Awonyi, Hojland in any list is crazy. Nunez 10th and Jota not even mentioned.
Awoniyi has been on fire this season tbf
@@jasonjc2264 he's scored the same amount of goals as Nunez but also they have Hoiland in the list so haven't just gone of this season.
@@yukonadventurexcyeah but for forest not Liverpool
@@yukonadventurexc hojlund on this list is too early tbh. But yea Awoniyi is scoring for forest not liverpool. And doing it more consistently. But I wouldn’t mind having nuñez above him either way
Really not Darwin’s biggest fan but having SOLANKE and awonyi ahead of him is really making me ill
Nunez is defo top 5
Nah
The fun thing about these lists is after the first one you're thinking "wow this can't get worse" and then it does again and again
Theo is so petulant sometimes
Solanke over Nunez is the worst take in this podcasts history
Does Reev actually watch football man, how has he got 2 Newcastle strikers in the top 4 , half there games were nil nil , and then had no Liverpool striker in the top 10, what joker man😂😂😭
Tom has hojlund 5th aswell let’s not get started with that , no PL Goals but is 5th best
Gabriel jesus is not a proper striker. He's not got that killer instinct. Pep guardiola knew that because a littany of midfield players started in a false 9 role ahead of jesus. He was pushed out onto the wing or left on the bench because he's too profligate. If jesus was the 2nd best winger itl he'd still be at city.