I won a Dukes Cricket ball for hitting a century when I was 12 in 1977. I still have it and its as shiny and new as ever. Great quality cricket balls!!
India uses SG, Eng and WI use Dukes and rest of the world uses Kookaburra. Let's keep it that way in my opinion, that adds the extra flavour to touring countries.
Saurav Sen sir,they are using kookaburra ball ,but during 2017-2018 first class domestic season(quid e Azam trophy..Equivalent to Indian Ranji trophy)they use duke ball.As this ball swing a lot and our first class matches are on green pitches as well,so most of the team got out on less than 100 many time. The cricket board is thinking to introduce this ball in test matches after 2-3 years according to former test caption Rashid Latif. They wants their player to get use to it first
Naveed Ali Hmm.. this is a nice move.. btw.. India is using SG.. it prefers spin bowling a lot.. btw.. I think kookaburra is used everywhere in one day matches right?
@@bernardoabbott6271 Somebody needs to perform a cost benefit analysis given the many statements about the Duke ball longivity. I would imagine that both companies have documented Standards to which all of the materials used in the manufacture have to conform.
@@bernardoabbott6271Well, he meant Rolls Royce in terms of quality. In terms of price, Sky Sports (UK) did a piece during the recent Ashes tour of Australia & found that a hand sewn Duke’s ball is actually *cheaper* to make & sell when compared to the Kookaburra!! I know what you might be thinking: ‘How can a machine stitched ball be more expensive compared to the Duke’s that required people to hand-stitch each ball’, but it is genuinely true. Hand stitched balls that last longer and are cheaper *HAVE* got to be better than balls that are more expensive, have less detailed/less reliable stitching, and fall apart after 30 overs. It’s an absolute no-brainer: get Kookaburra out of the professional game & allow every nation to play with a superior Duke’s ball which is cheaper & doesn’t lose its integrity after 30 overs!!
My two cents, as I am in NZ. I have trialled both balls on grass and concrete pitches. I much prefer the Dukes as it lasts longer, holds together more, and is more suited to NZ conditions, and hoops with swing. I used to train my kids on how to bowl swing using the Dukes, as it hoops alot, but offers more control. Needless to say, the kids were impressed and most had a Duke or two in thier kitbag. The other plus for the Dukes, is my Spinners prefer the ball, as they can grip the seam, and are happy to bowl with a new Dukes ball, but were not as happy with the Kookurburra Kookaburra is an okay ball. It just does not swing as much in NZ conditions, nor does it swing for long. I have seen some balls fall apart after 30 overs. I feel Kookurburra is built for Aus conditions, hard pitches and the like, but NZ does not have hard grass pitches at all. NZ has a similar climate to England, and we would be better off using an English ball. Dukes all the way for me!! A NZ Junior Coach.
I think that one of the reasons Australian's focus on developing bowlers with raw pace is because of the Kookaburra's going softer sooner than the Dukes. This also gives Australia a significant home ground Advantage, particularly when England tour, who dont specialize in that 'hit the deck' style of bowling. By switching to the Dukes for international cricket, Australia would concede an important home ground advantage, particularly to England and may even fail in producing bowlers the likes of Mitchell Johnson and Brett Lee.
Duke .. ❤️ Every hand stitching is like a unique fingerprint of the ball. It remains in shape for longer times... and I think it is more bowler friendly for a long period of time. Also I like the beautiful craftsmanship of Duke ❤️
It'd be good if one company doesn't gets to supply all the balls in international limited overs matches. In today's t20 era any ball that's Bowler friendly should get more preference so producers would compete with more Bowler friendly balls.
I am here after the Edgbaston test between India and England, 2018. The dukes had a great hand in making that test match so interesting. But felt sorry for the batsman at times. Making runs throughout the test was so difficult. These low scoring games do make a great spectacle though.
Interesting point that the Duke seam is fully cross stitched from outer to outer rows of stitching. This would explain the more pronounced seam and the Physics of it having more swing. There are not many other variables given all balls have to conform to the weight and circumference as defined in the MCC rules.
100% agree with you. Dukes is the superior quality product and Kookaburra knows this, hence why Kookaburra have desperately been throwing a lot of money, sponsorship and free equipment at school-grade cricket in recent years in exchange for having their ball used. They have a monopoly on all white-ball cricket, so much so that the ICC ODI laws of the game had to be changed to have balls from each end to accommodate the fact that the white Kookaburra ball doesn't last the full 50 overs. This has all but killed off the reverse swing that bowlers like Waqar/Wasim et al use to get in the last 10 overs of an ODI innings, and majority of spinners have been made obsolete due to the fact that they start bowling in an ODI innings while the ball is still relatively new, only about 5-10 overs old (compared to 15-30 overs old when it was just the one ball used throughout the entire innings). So, it has nullified the effect of most spinners in ODIs, hence with the exception of a few spin bowlers going around such as Rashid Khan/Adil Rashid/Kuldeep Yadav/Chahal et al, most ODI sides are more inclined to use part-time spinners instead. The Dukes has been proven to last 50 overs, but batsmen bitched about it after the 1999 World Cup due to the amount of swing bowlers were able to generate. The ICC are reluctant to try their ball at the higher levels as they know it will dent the batting averages of the all flat-track bullies who've been made to look better than they really are due to the current rules of the game. Flat pitches, powerful bats, shorter boundaries (compared to 20+ years ago), new balls from each end, and fielding restrictions in favour of the batsmen have all but made ODI cricket a batsman's game. ODIs have turned into nothing more than a longer version of T20, where it is just "wicket, 4, 6, wicket, 4, 6" etc. The balance between bat and ball, and the skill of batsmen building an innings in the middle overs (such as what Michael Bevan used to do), running the regular 2s, 3s and sometimes 4s, has been largely removed over the past 2 decades in exchange for power hitting, which is what England's strategy has been over the past few years, stacking their batting lineup with a whole bunch of power hitters.
As an australian bowler with experience using both balls (but much more experience with kookaburras), i have to say that dukes are much better for cricket. The kookaburras are shite in comparison; in general they swing less and not for as long, they basically fall apart after the first spell, and they're just ridiculously inconsistent. Dukes actually allow the bowler to show their talent and do things with the ball, while kookaburras hold them back and so the game becomes boring and centred around the batsmen.
That's odd, as every Kookaburra ball I've used has held up quite well. I haven't tried a Duke ball so I can't comment on which I'd prefer, but it swings right from the start, provides good grip for the spinners and maintains its firmness for the majority of a game (I play between 65-75 overs). Although I'm not familiar with the situations that you've played in but when the kookaburra ball's treated properly it remains in good nick for a long period of time, only falling apart when the ball's not being treated properly
saddo15 That is odd, maybe you're using a different type of kookaburra? I think we use the hand stitched ones and yeah they lose their shape very quickly. Even in one dayers
Alec Green maybe, I know that Kookaburra make balls specifically for my comp (and it's only an amateur one) so maybe they make them harder so that they can deal with synthetic wickets (which is what we use). I will say that the ones I buy at rebel sport lose there shine after only 120-150 balls so I guess maybe that's where the differences are
Maybe Cricket balls should change overtime, it allows the exaggeration on positions as an opener has to work harder to get through the start of a match with a kooka, still while giving bowlers and opportunity to take wickets and give batsman a hard time and as approaching a new Ball around 80 overs batsman can have more control of the game. Kooka’s are the best ball for Australia and such climates.
There is no comparison. The kookaburra is garbage and just doesn't do anything after the 15 over mark. The Duke leads to a much better balance between ball and bat which is what you need for exciting test match cricket
It would be interesting to see a test match where the bowling side can use both type of ball, one in each innings. Once they have made the decision for the first innings, they must use a different ball for the second.
As a school player I prefer the duke in nz one game I was opening the bowling and got 5 for 14 in 4 overs 4 bowled and 1 caught behind just swing it the right way :)
Virat was able to hit 500 runs alone from India in the test series against England, and clearly proved tha fact that great batsmen doesnt care whether its kookabura or dukes they are facing
yes, the great batsmen don't care. What about those batsmen who are not so great? (like 95% of all batsmen). Apart from that, bowlers are highly discouraged. Every rule is made to put them in dim
If he didnt get chance to play county and those drop catches by english players of him i think he scores same number of runs that he scored before in england. 114 runs in 10 inning
The problem with the Dukes ball is the Varnish shatters pretty quickly. Probably a little bias been West Aussie, but like the Kookaburras. Still gotta work on the ball and there's also the spinners to consider.
The Duke is a better product but young quick bowlers should be taught with a Kookaburra. Australian quicks are forced to develop extra speed, a venomous bouncer, a deceptive slower ball, a great off cutter etc because the ball doesn't swing as much or for as long. They have more skills by time they get to first class & international level. Relying on huge movement for cheap wickets means young quicks in England don't focus as much on those extra skills. Even great bowlers like Anderson & Broad are impotent in Australian conditions because it doesn't swing and they have no other tricks in their kit bag.
Yet at the same time Aussy quicks often have no control over the ball when they're playing with a duke, also most kids don't learn with to bowl with a Duke, In England if you're playing amateur cricket (which is where you really learn to bowl, first class is just where you're skills are honed) with a Duke it's just complete domination by the bowlers, our amateur level cricket has balls that do very little.
I'm sorry mate but Pakistan has provided us with the most skilled paceman (Wasim Akram) and the West Indies seemed to produce plenty with the duke. Aussie bowlers been crap for years not one of the paceman of the last 10 would make a squad from yesteryear. Ball has nothing to do with it, environment and culture one grows up in is what gives us great players. We need a recession so hard times fall on the youngsters to give them a bit of grit and competition for that rise from shitsvill a baggy green can provide
Kookaburra balls are made with machines. Duke's have been made the same way, that is, the handmade since 1760. No question about which is better as Duke's are way better. England made things are better in all aspects.
Dukes ball is the best. Dukes balls are fabulous. Far better than other balls - kookaburra and SG balls. Only dukes balls should be used for international cricket
You're onto something, trooper. I was thinking how about the batting team choose the ball. Which would be chosen more often. Most of the comments here are from bowlers. Since the discussion is what's better for cricket, I think batsmen's opinions would be instructive.
Loser of the toss sounds good. Aggressive decision to bowl first because of overhead/pitch conditions will be somewhat nullified by the kookaburra and the opposite would be said of teams batting first on hot dry days with a flat pitch giving the bowlers a chance to actually bowl the side out. Same ball used for all 4 innings. Im all for this.
Just like in football the team the team that wins the toss has the option to chose whether to choose sides or to choose who kicks the ball first. Similarly cricket should have the option of the team that wins the toss have the option to choose the ball type or to choose whether to bowl first or bat first.
I wouldn't mind a variety of brands being made available at all the top levels, and the bowling team can decide which one they want to use. Choosing the best ball for the conditions, and having in mind what you want to achieve in the game could all be factors in which ball is chosen. It could even be allowed to change types when the new ball is due in Test Matches. That would make it really interesting I reckon. Generally Duke balls are regarded as being better at swinging for longer, but that isn't necessarily what you'd want all the time. On a hot dry day in Australia on a hard bouncy wicket (like the old WACA for instance, or the GABBA) then the Kookaburra would probably be a better choice. But on a green wicket on an overcast day in England, the the Duke is preferable by far. It can depend on the type of bowlers you have in your team too - if they aren't renowned swing bowlers then a swinging ball isn't much use. Bowl the first stint with one type, and if that's not doing what you want, then switch when the new ball is due. That would make it really interesting I reckon. Batsmen are allowed to use all manner of different bats, and can swap any time they like - why not allow bowlers to have a choice of brand of balls if they want?
Im not sure how the kookaburra would be more suited to Australian conditions unless we are talking about ball durability. why wouldnt you want the ball to swing as a bowling side even on a fast flat deck. also gabba wickets are quite green these days. if you are banging the ball into a fast flattish wicket wouldnt you rather the ball with the more pronounced harder seam?
What is a cricket ball. A kind of wood known as corks or external barks from a kind of balsamic trees. They have a leather jacket and look good almost like a rubber. Bat is also some kind of wood which have cushion push high and a bit lite to get the ball high. So know a little bit of your ball and bat to play with it.
In my opinion,the dukes ball will be a bettter option for the fast bowlers as its shine lasts longer and also the seam is very hard which will result in movement of the pace bowlers.Well,kookaburra is a better option for the spinnners as it loses its shine earlier as compared to the dukes ball.
if you haven't played against a Duke ball in England in summer, you are not a complete batsman. Its the beast. But in the 2023 Ashes, the new ball didn't swing at all, surprising
They should add choice of ball to the toss - if you win the toss and bat the opposition bowling can choose the ball brand. Same if you decide to bowl, the batting side can choose the ball.
This may sound bad, coming from Australia, but I think here in Australia we should go for the Dukes ball as well. The way I see it, the worst part of our team at present compared to other test teams is our batting. I think our batsman have grown up with conditions that have been to batter friendly and I hate to say it have become flat track bullies. If a Dukes ball is harder to bat against, in the long run that will produce better batsman who are able to bat against a swinging ball, around the world, not a bunch of batsman that can only score runs when they are playing in extremely batter friendly conditions. Either that or stop creating pitches that are too easy to bat on.
I think here in New Zealand it would change cricket for the worse. Having a ball that hoops around does not give much incentive on developing pace, which would mean that our bowlers would become pretty toothless in Australia and South Africa. I honestly believe that using a Kookaburra forces bowlers to develop more skills than they otherwise would.
James S That's true but you also need to develop batsmen who can play a moving ball. Look at what happened to Australia in 2015 Ashes- 60 all out when it was swinging around.
I totally agree with everything you said, mate. Bowlers need to have some tricks up their sleeve for when the ball isn't doing anything in the air. There are way more ways to beat a batsman than just swing. And you don't need the ball to hoop to beat a man with swing, you just need to swing it 3/4 of the width of the bat, and do it late. As a batsman, I'd way rather face a ball that's hooping, because you can see it hooping all the way down the pitch, and adjust, whereas if it goes a little bit very late, it's very easy to be beaten.
The Duke is a far better ball in every condition in every country to every bowler. Spinners get better spin, quicks have the seam, swing bowlers have the shape and batsmen have the harder ball for longer to hit. Why the hell we still use a kooka is beyond me. The Duke is a far better ball and has never been surpassed by a kooka. Nobody in one dayers likes using two balls, the duke can deliver a real bowling challenge for 50 overs, same for 20/20. It will swing longer, be harder for longer and that will be the benefit to a batsman. The kooka is a massed produced ball, professional cricket should be based on the Duke.
SG balls are similar to dukes ball I think dukes and SG is good for test cricket nowdays where batsman is dominating there should be something for the bowlers for the good balance
Me grabbing any old ball from my kit bag because its better than most of these training balls that last for 5 overs in the nets then basically split in 2 or look like they were just used in a test match.
Im sure kookaburra would hand stitch too if they didnt want to sell them for double what they cost now. Both can make balls but the duke is the expensive one and for good reason
i think there should be only one ball used for test and first class cricket around the world, i think the duke is probably that ball, club cricketers will still use whatever they want
The Kookaburra in the right conditions does enough! England were bowled out for 58 only recently in New Zealand. In South Africa, you'll often see teams get bundled for between 100 and 200. Now one may argue that the Dukes moves around irrespective of conditions - rubbish. If this ongoing 2019 Ashes is anything to go by, that ball can become pretty docile too as we saw in Stokes' chase at Headingley, Australia's third innings at Edgbaston as well as the final innings at Old Trafford, when England very nearly pulled off a draw.
I suspect the Dukes ball would suit NZ because the conditions are similar to the UK. The Dukes ball was a failure in 1st class cricket in Australia because the pitches, wicket block and outfields are harder and drier.
NZC missed an opportunity a few years ago switching to the Dukes ball. Kookaburra must've compensated NZC well (like they have in Australia) in order for them to continue sticking with using their ball, but everyone I've spoken to who's bowled with both Dukes and Kookaburra at competition level has said that Dukes is a superior product. Also, Dukes helps develop proper batting techniques and separates the wheat from the chaff, as after the Kookaburra loses it's shine and the seam becomes flat around the 10-20 over mark, unless you are playing on a green-top or a pitch that has been juiced up a bit, there is always that long period of overs in the middle of an innings where it is relatively easy for batsmen to score. You've got to maximise your strengths and in NZ conditions, Boult/Southee/Henry et al would've been lethal bowling with Dukes.
@@cdn3470 Like Australia, many of the venues where cricket is played in NZ use drop-in pitches because the venue is used by other sports. In Australia, AFL uses the cricket grounds in winter and in NZ, it's predominantly rugby union. Regarding the particular venues in Australia that use drop-in pitches, the MCG pitch is the worst of the lot. Since 1996 (since drop-ins became permanent there), there's been very few test matches which have offered much for the bowlers at the MCG. The 2017 Boxing Day Ashes test would have to be one of the most boring test matches I've ever watched. Both teams scored relatively slowly, were very defensive in their batting approach, balls from fast bowlers weren't carrying to the wicketkeeper from day 1, the pitch scuffed up the ball very early in the innings, the day 5 pitch didn't look much different from day 1 and could've been used for another 5 days! It was just a terrible endorsement for test cricket in general.
How can kookaburra seriously think people respect their ball? They had to play with two per innings just to make them last a 50 over game! Tennis ball with tape does the same job.
This might only be an aussie thing, but isnt changing your gameplan and what you do with the ball as the ball get older and doesnt swing anymore like one of the major parts of test cricket
judging by the comments, if you're australian and don't actually know, you like kookaburra. if you're logical and honest, australian or nor, you prefer the duke.
You're probably Indian, therefore you have no idea what you're talking about when you say words like "logic" and "honesty". Dukes favor bowlers who can't naturally swing a ball, nor have any ability to deliver line and length consistently. Personally I don't care what ball countries use. But idiots are always amusing.
Depends. I think growing up bowling with a kookaburra makes better bowlers because you are taught patience and accuracy combined with pace and it shows with how much better Australian bowlers are compared to England. But yea personally I'd rather play and watch cricket with a dukes.
I won a Dukes Cricket ball for hitting a century when I was 12 in 1977. I still have it and its as shiny and new as ever. Great quality cricket balls!!
Nice
44 years later man’s ball still shiny meanwhile my tennis ball dies after 2 days
@@bhavyajm7485 mine tennis ball lost in 2 hour
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My tennis bowl has worn out after playing for 50 overs it self
In a nutshell, Kookaburras are batsmen friendly and Dukes are much more bowler friendly.
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That means we need dukes bowl because the way these days batsmen making run
@@amandeepkour9244 especially you🤔 "rahul sharma"
@@jb3274 oh I see what u did Rahul and Rohit Sharma
and SG balls
In a nutshell, Dukes are bowler friendly and Kookaburras are batsmen friendly unless your steve smith
A real cricket ball is a thing of beauty
khee
I keep a new one my table while I program on computer. Sometimes do some legbreaks in the air.
It's almost a shame to use a new one. They are a work of art.
Except when it's coming you at 90 mph.
India uses SG, Eng and WI use Dukes and rest of the world uses Kookaburra.
Let's keep it that way in my opinion, that adds the extra flavour to touring countries.
A Man but the conditions and pitches give it the extra flavour if they change to duke ball
A Man Pakistan uses duke as well for their first class cricket,they have switched last year and some of their matches finished in 2 and half days
Naveed Ali
Brother.. what does Pakistan uses for international home test matches?
Saurav Sen sir,they are using kookaburra ball ,but during 2017-2018 first class domestic season(quid e Azam trophy..Equivalent to Indian Ranji trophy)they use duke ball.As this ball swing a lot and our first class matches are on green pitches as well,so most of the team got out on less than 100 many time.
The cricket board is thinking to introduce this ball in test matches after 2-3 years according to former test caption Rashid Latif.
They wants their player to get use to it first
Naveed Ali
Hmm.. this is a nice move.. btw.. India is using SG.. it prefers spin bowling a lot.. btw.. I think kookaburra is used everywhere in one day matches right?
Tennis ball with tape all the way...
Ideally with the tape fraying in multiple places.
Hell yeah
😂😂👌🏻👌🏻
Cork with leather
With a tennis with tape it will swing forever and longer
2:45 woah! Looks like someone got murdered with that bat
Lol
😂😂
Yeah, Gary Ballance murdered his own career with it!
Dukes are the Rolls Royce of cricket balls. Hand stitched, attention to detail & of quality.
Well apart from the price
@@bernardoabbott6271 Somebody needs to perform a cost benefit analysis given the many statements about the Duke ball longivity. I would imagine that both companies have documented Standards to which all of the materials used in the manufacture have to conform.
@@bernardoabbott6271Well, he meant Rolls Royce in terms of quality. In terms of price, Sky Sports (UK) did a piece during the recent Ashes tour of Australia & found that a hand sewn Duke’s ball is actually *cheaper* to make & sell when compared to the Kookaburra!! I know what you might be thinking: ‘How can a machine stitched ball be more expensive compared to the Duke’s that required people to hand-stitch each ball’, but it is genuinely true.
Hand stitched balls that last longer and are cheaper *HAVE* got to be better than balls that are more expensive, have less detailed/less reliable stitching, and fall apart after 30 overs.
It’s an absolute no-brainer: get Kookaburra out of the professional game & allow every nation to play with a superior Duke’s ball which is cheaper & doesn’t lose its integrity after 30 overs!!
Kookaburra balls🏏 are way ahead in quality. Dukes now sold to an Indian person and balls are mainly made outside UK.
My two cents, as I am in NZ.
I have trialled both balls on grass and concrete pitches. I much prefer the Dukes as it lasts longer, holds together more, and is more suited to NZ conditions, and hoops with swing. I used to train my kids on how to bowl swing using the Dukes, as it hoops alot, but offers more control. Needless to say, the kids were impressed and most had a Duke or two in thier kitbag. The other plus for the Dukes, is my Spinners prefer the ball, as they can grip the seam, and are happy to bowl with a new Dukes ball, but were not as happy with the Kookurburra
Kookaburra is an okay ball. It just does not swing as much in NZ conditions, nor does it swing for long. I have seen some balls fall apart after 30 overs. I feel Kookurburra is built for Aus conditions, hard pitches and the like, but NZ does not have hard grass pitches at all. NZ has a similar climate to England, and we would be better off using an English ball.
Dukes all the way for me!! A NZ Junior Coach.
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dukes just are better
Jon LeSouef how many concrete pitches do you play on international cricket isn't on synthetic
You woulf say that. Should blow the english while youre at it
Jon LeSouef Short summary - bowlers love Dukes, because it swings more
But it doesn’t last
There’s a reason why Kookaburra is number 1
These red shining balls make me feel so good!
I think that one of the reasons Australian's focus on developing bowlers with raw pace is because of the Kookaburra's going softer sooner than the Dukes. This also gives Australia a significant home ground Advantage, particularly when England tour, who dont specialize in that 'hit the deck' style of bowling. By switching to the Dukes for international cricket, Australia would concede an important home ground advantage, particularly to England and may even fail in producing bowlers the likes of Mitchell Johnson and Brett Lee.
Duke .. ❤️
Every hand stitching is like a unique fingerprint of the ball. It remains in shape for longer times... and I think it is more bowler friendly for a long period of time.
Also I like the beautiful craftsmanship of Duke ❤️
I agree, hand-made by a small company 250+ years old is awesome.
1:31 lads those are some pretty notable exceptions
Populationwise yes but there are around an additional 110 nations where the game has registered players and competitions.
Yeah Kookaburra is use everywhere in the world except the only 3 countries in the world that play cricket
It'd be good if one company doesn't gets to supply all the balls in international limited overs matches. In today's t20 era any ball that's Bowler friendly should get more preference so producers would compete with more Bowler friendly balls.
I am here after the Edgbaston test between India and England, 2018. The dukes had a great hand in making that test match so interesting. But felt sorry for the batsman at times. Making runs throughout the test was so difficult. These low scoring games do make a great spectacle though.
I favour the Dukes, any ball that gives the bowler some sort of boost can only be seen as a good thing in this current batsmen-friendly era.
Interesting point that the Duke seam is fully cross stitched from outer to outer rows of stitching. This would explain the more pronounced seam and the Physics of it having more swing. There are not many other variables given all balls have to conform to the weight and circumference as defined in the MCC rules.
Kids - kokaabura
Mens-duke
Legends- sand paper😂😂😂
Ultra legends tapeball
International Test cricket should always use Dukes ball it well help the original hand stitches ball maker and would kept tradition alive
100% agree with you.
Dukes is the superior quality product and Kookaburra knows this, hence why Kookaburra have desperately been throwing a lot of money, sponsorship and free equipment at school-grade cricket in recent years in exchange for having their ball used. They have a monopoly on all white-ball cricket, so much so that the ICC ODI laws of the game had to be changed to have balls from each end to accommodate the fact that the white Kookaburra ball doesn't last the full 50 overs. This has all but killed off the reverse swing that bowlers like Waqar/Wasim et al use to get in the last 10 overs of an ODI innings, and majority of spinners have been made obsolete due to the fact that they start bowling in an ODI innings while the ball is still relatively new, only about 5-10 overs old (compared to 15-30 overs old when it was just the one ball used throughout the entire innings). So, it has nullified the effect of most spinners in ODIs, hence with the exception of a few spin bowlers going around such as Rashid Khan/Adil Rashid/Kuldeep Yadav/Chahal et al, most ODI sides are more inclined to use part-time spinners instead.
The Dukes has been proven to last 50 overs, but batsmen bitched about it after the 1999 World Cup due to the amount of swing bowlers were able to generate. The ICC are reluctant to try their ball at the higher levels as they know it will dent the batting averages of the all flat-track bullies who've been made to look better than they really are due to the current rules of the game.
Flat pitches, powerful bats, shorter boundaries (compared to 20+ years ago), new balls from each end, and fielding restrictions in favour of the batsmen have all but made ODI cricket a batsman's game. ODIs have turned into nothing more than a longer version of T20, where it is just "wicket, 4, 6, wicket, 4, 6" etc. The balance between bat and ball, and the skill of batsmen building an innings in the middle overs (such as what Michael Bevan used to do), running the regular 2s, 3s and sometimes 4s, has been largely removed over the past 2 decades in exchange for power hitting, which is what England's strategy has been over the past few years, stacking their batting lineup with a whole bunch of power hitters.
Meanwhile SG - hey we exist too!!
Ya in India
SGs are shit. Check out Virat Kohli’s unhappiness on UA-cam! Search it.
@@Tejash1180 everyone including New balance bats are made by SG SS
Watching a red ball being bowled by Anderson is a beauty.
Don’t even like cricket that much but these balls are a thing of beauty.
They’re like a red apple in a Disney film
As an australian bowler with experience using both balls (but much more experience with kookaburras), i have to say that dukes are much better for cricket. The kookaburras are shite in comparison; in general they swing less and not for as long, they basically fall apart after the first spell, and they're just ridiculously inconsistent. Dukes actually allow the bowler to show their talent and do things with the ball, while kookaburras hold them back and so the game becomes boring and centred around the batsmen.
That's odd, as every Kookaburra ball I've used has held up quite well. I haven't tried a Duke ball so I can't comment on which I'd prefer, but it swings right from the start, provides good grip for the spinners and maintains its firmness for the majority of a game (I play between 65-75 overs).
Although I'm not familiar with the situations that you've played in but when the kookaburra ball's treated properly it remains in good nick for a long period of time, only falling apart when the ball's not being treated properly
saddo15 That is odd, maybe you're using a different type of kookaburra? I think we use the hand stitched ones and yeah they lose their shape very quickly. Even in one dayers
i prefer dukes too. But kooks were really good for teaching variations instead of reliance on swing. still swing is cooler lol
Alec Green maybe, I know that Kookaburra make balls specifically for my comp (and it's only an amateur one) so maybe they make them harder so that they can deal with synthetic wickets (which is what we use). I will say that the ones I buy at rebel sport lose there shine after only 120-150 balls so I guess maybe that's where the differences are
Maybe Cricket balls should change overtime, it allows the exaggeration on positions as an opener has to work harder to get through the start of a match with a kooka, still while giving bowlers and opportunity to take wickets and give batsman a hard time and as approaching a new Ball around 80 overs batsman can have more control of the game. Kooka’s are the best ball for Australia and such climates.
There is no comparison. The kookaburra is garbage and just doesn't do anything after the 15 over mark. The Duke leads to a much better balance between ball and bat which is what you need for exciting test match cricket
Amen
I’m guessing your English
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@@nickatkinson5692 why
It would be interesting to see a test match where the bowling side can use both type of ball, one in each innings. Once they have made the decision for the first innings, they must use a different ball for the second.
That swing is beautiful. Trent bolt got such beautiful action.
As a school player I prefer the duke in nz one game I was opening the bowling and got 5 for 14 in 4 overs 4 bowled and 1 caught behind just swing it the right way :)
Cool, you are good, btw are u pace bowler or spin
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Virat was able to hit 500 runs alone from India in the test series against England, and clearly proved tha fact that great batsmen doesnt care whether its kookabura or dukes they are facing
yes, the great batsmen don't care. What about those batsmen who are not so great? (like 95% of all batsmen).
Apart from that, bowlers are highly discouraged. Every rule is made to put them in dim
If he didnt get chance to play county and those drop catches by english players of him i think he scores same number of runs that he scored before in england. 114 runs in 10 inning
Virat averages 33 in England, mate.
@@30kushagrachandra31 bruh this comment is 3 years old when Virat use to perform in test 😂
@@AMJ564 😅
I used Dukes cricket balls in school ..... Very good quality.
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The problem with the Dukes ball is the Varnish shatters pretty quickly.
Probably a little bias been West Aussie, but like the Kookaburras.
Still gotta work on the ball and there's also the spinners to consider.
The Duke is a better product but young quick bowlers should be taught with a Kookaburra. Australian quicks are forced to develop extra speed, a venomous bouncer, a deceptive slower ball, a great off cutter etc because the ball doesn't swing as much or for as long. They have more skills by time they get to first class & international level. Relying on huge movement for cheap wickets means young quicks in England don't focus as much on those extra skills. Even great bowlers like Anderson & Broad are impotent in Australian conditions because it doesn't swing and they have no other tricks in their kit bag.
Yet at the same time Aussy quicks often have no control over the ball when they're playing with a duke, also most kids don't learn with to bowl with a Duke, In England if you're playing amateur cricket (which is where you really learn to bowl, first class is just where you're skills are honed) with a Duke it's just complete domination by the bowlers, our amateur level cricket has balls that do very little.
I'm sorry mate but Pakistan has provided us with the most skilled paceman (Wasim Akram) and the West Indies seemed to produce plenty with the duke. Aussie bowlers been crap for years not one of the paceman of the last 10 would make a squad from yesteryear. Ball has nothing to do with it, environment and culture one grows up in is what gives us great players. We need a recession so hard times fall on the youngsters to give them a bit of grit and competition for that rise from shitsvill a baggy green can provide
N.W.O Whoknowstheshadowknows true lmao their only decent bowler was Shane Warne
@@Jesus-ji8dh I mean Glenn McGrath? The 2nd highest wicket taker among fast bowlers in test cricket
Also I'm English and I think Glenn McGrath is the best pace bowler of all time hands down just wanted to put that out there
0:29 yep, looks just like the 38 over old ball replacement in the last 2023 ashes test 😅
it would be pretty cool if the fielding captain was given the choice between both balls at the start of the innings
I came here just to see the red shining balls.
For me I just want to play cricket no matter the ball
I just wish Kookaburras were more consistent, sometimes they can be great but others seem to just never swing out of the box.
Because they have 4 fake seems. They aren't as solid as a Dukes. Buy one and try it out.
Kookaburra balls are made with machines. Duke's have been made the same way, that is, the handmade since 1760. No question about which is better as Duke's are way better. England made things are better in all aspects.
They excel at fat burgs too
Dukes ball is the best. Dukes balls are fabulous. Far better than other balls - kookaburra and SG balls. Only dukes balls should be used for international cricket
How about the team who wins the toss gets to choose who bats/bowls first, the team that loses gets to choose the type of ball played.
You're onto something, trooper. I was thinking how about the batting team choose the ball. Which would be chosen more often. Most of the comments here are from bowlers. Since the discussion is what's better for cricket, I think batsmen's opinions would be instructive.
Tom Marvan cricket is already too much in favour of batsman so more rules should be made in favor of bowlers now to keep game interesting .
Loser of the toss sounds good. Aggressive decision to bowl first because of overhead/pitch conditions will be somewhat nullified by the kookaburra and the opposite would be said of teams batting first on hot dry days with a flat pitch giving the bowlers a chance to actually bowl the side out. Same ball used for all 4 innings. Im all for this.
In 1992 eng pak series there was a trend to toss for the ball
They mentioned it in the wasim akram master class at sky sports
Just like in football the team the team that wins the toss has the option to chose whether to choose sides or to choose who kicks the ball first. Similarly cricket should have the option of the team that wins the toss have the option to choose the ball type or to choose whether to bowl first or bat first.
I wouldn't mind a variety of brands being made available at all the top levels, and the bowling team can decide which one they want to use. Choosing the best ball for the conditions, and having in mind what you want to achieve in the game could all be factors in which ball is chosen. It could even be allowed to change types when the new ball is due in Test Matches. That would make it really interesting I reckon.
Generally Duke balls are regarded as being better at swinging for longer, but that isn't necessarily what you'd want all the time. On a hot dry day in Australia on a hard bouncy wicket (like the old WACA for instance, or the GABBA) then the Kookaburra would probably be a better choice. But on a green wicket on an overcast day in England, the the Duke is preferable by far. It can depend on the type of bowlers you have in your team too - if they aren't renowned swing bowlers then a swinging ball isn't much use. Bowl the first stint with one type, and if that's not doing what you want, then switch when the new ball is due. That would make it really interesting I reckon. Batsmen are allowed to use all manner of different bats, and can swap any time they like - why not allow bowlers to have a choice of brand of balls if they want?
Im not sure how the kookaburra would be more suited to Australian conditions unless we are talking about ball durability. why wouldnt you want the ball to swing as a bowling side even on a fast flat deck. also gabba wickets are quite green these days. if you are banging the ball into a fast flattish wicket wouldnt you rather the ball with the more pronounced harder seam?
@@liam3104 That's why I suggested that the bowling side be allowed to choose. Did you even read what I wrote?
The dislikes are probably from the batsman who got out.
Thats for sure
no matter what ball is used for me Cricket is my most favourite sport, cricket is important not balls I'm happy with any ball
I remember going to a cobbler and asking him to sew my torn leather ball when I was kid😅😅
What is a cricket ball. A kind of wood known as corks or external barks from a kind of balsamic trees. They have a leather jacket and look good almost like a rubber. Bat is also some kind of wood which have cushion push high and a bit lite to get the ball high. So know a little bit of your ball and bat to play with it.
In my opinion,the dukes ball will be a bettter option for the fast bowlers as its shine lasts longer and also the seam is very hard which will result in movement of the pace bowlers.Well,kookaburra is a better option for the spinnners as it loses its shine earlier as compared to the dukes ball.
Dukes is the winner. Best cricket ball for test cricket.
Why not have a toss in test matches to decide which ball the winning captain wants?Just another factor to add to the pitch,cloud cover etc.
The sport is so batter friendly these days I feel like a Dukes being more widespread could bring back some sense of balance.
if you haven't played against a Duke ball in England in summer, you are not a complete batsman. Its the beast. But in the 2023 Ashes, the new ball didn't swing at all, surprising
Why would you want a ball that swings all Day? It's like having a Pitch that seams the whole game. You need variation.
They should add choice of ball to the toss - if you win the toss and bat the opposition bowling can choose the ball brand. Same if you decide to bowl, the batting side can choose the ball.
as kookaburra's outer seam is just decoration,everyone favours duke
This may sound bad, coming from Australia, but I think here in Australia we should go for the Dukes ball as well. The way I see it, the worst part of our team at present compared to other test teams is our batting. I think our batsman have grown up with conditions that have been to batter friendly and I hate to say it have become flat track bullies. If a Dukes ball is harder to bat against, in the long run that will produce better batsman who are able to bat against a swinging ball, around the world, not a bunch of batsman that can only score runs when they are playing in extremely batter friendly conditions. Either that or stop creating pitches that are too easy to bat on.
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Hope Indian bowlers could well done with the dukes
In India, we use the SG ball, not the dukes for Tests
Don’t forget about the platypus 😍
I think here in New Zealand it would change cricket for the worse. Having a ball that hoops around does not give much incentive on developing pace, which would mean that our bowlers would become pretty toothless in Australia and South Africa. I honestly believe that using a Kookaburra forces bowlers to develop more skills than they otherwise would.
James S That's true but you also need to develop batsmen who can play a moving ball. Look at what happened to Australia in 2015 Ashes- 60 all out when it was swinging around.
@@kevinmcardle2928 You're spot on
I totally agree with everything you said, mate. Bowlers need to have some tricks up their sleeve for when the ball isn't doing anything in the air. There are way more ways to beat a batsman than just swing. And you don't need the ball to hoop to beat a man with swing, you just need to swing it 3/4 of the width of the bat, and do it late. As a batsman, I'd way rather face a ball that's hooping, because you can see it hooping all the way down the pitch, and adjust, whereas if it goes a little bit very late, it's very easy to be beaten.
In Sailkot in Pakistan, they make excellent hand made cricket balls. Best for swing !
Would be interesting to see how the Dukes performs out in the subcontinent...
In an era of batsman friendly cricket, its better to use the Dukes.
Why is this randomly in my youtube recommendation?
In Ranchi trophy India also uses kookaburra ball!!!.
In ranchi trophy or ranji trophy?
Well they got that wrong. They haven’t been hand crafted in East London since 1760, mainly because they were originally made in Penshurst in Kent.
The Duke is a far better ball in every condition in every country to every bowler.
Spinners get better spin, quicks have the seam, swing bowlers have the shape and batsmen have the harder ball for longer to hit.
Why the hell we still use a kooka is beyond me.
The Duke is a far better ball and has never been surpassed by a kooka.
Nobody in one dayers likes using two balls, the duke can deliver a real bowling challenge for 50 overs, same for 20/20. It will swing longer, be harder for longer and that will be the benefit to a batsman.
The kooka is a massed produced ball, professional cricket should be based on the Duke.
^^^ This, exactly ^^^
Unpopular opinion but English conditions and ball is the correct form of the game. It is how the game is meant to be. Not some dirt track.
I prefer both balls but especially duke because this one more spin and swig able and also world class ball
Why is this showing up as a recommendation UA-cam? I googled “cricket rules”.
SG balls are similar to dukes ball I think dukes and SG is good for test cricket nowdays where batsman is dominating there should be something for the bowlers for the good balance
For NZ conditions Dukes can be used for TEST Format. As the conditions between England and New Zealand are preety simillar
Me grabbing any old ball from my kit bag because its better than most of these training balls that last for 5 overs in the nets then basically split in 2 or look like they were just used in a test match.
Dukes for all first class cricket 🏏
Mass produced Kookaburra for everything else
Kookaburra balls🏏 are way ahead in quality. Dukes now sold to an Indian person and balls are mainly made outside UK.
Im sure kookaburra would hand stitch too if they didnt want to sell them for double what they cost now. Both can make balls but the duke is the expensive one and for good reason
i think there should be only one ball used for test and first class cricket around the world, i think the duke is probably that ball, club cricketers will still use whatever they want
Boost ball always great
The Kookaburra in the right conditions does enough! England were bowled out for 58 only recently in New Zealand. In South Africa, you'll often see teams get bundled for between 100 and 200.
Now one may argue that the Dukes moves around irrespective of conditions - rubbish. If this ongoing 2019 Ashes is anything to go by, that ball can become pretty docile too as we saw in Stokes' chase at Headingley, Australia's third innings at Edgbaston as well as the final innings at Old Trafford, when England very nearly pulled off a draw.
I think street cricket is way forward. With a taped tennis ball!!! More talent and better cricket, mainly yorkers, no risk of injury!!!
As a pakistani i have one and only one question. Which one reverses better and how soon
That guy has beautiful balls.
No matter if it is Kookaburra or Dukes , Pakistani bowlers are still able to swing it a feet
The Laws of Physics are the same in every nation.
Must be the sand paper
Duke ball is the best.
I suspect the Dukes ball would suit NZ because the conditions are similar to the UK. The Dukes ball was a failure in 1st class cricket in Australia because the pitches, wicket block and outfields are harder and drier.
Maybe we could have both balls in a test match. One of each either end - but no new ball at 80 over mark.
NZC missed an opportunity a few years ago switching to the Dukes ball. Kookaburra must've compensated NZC well (like they have in Australia) in order for them to continue sticking with using their ball, but everyone I've spoken to who's bowled with both Dukes and Kookaburra at competition level has said that Dukes is a superior product.
Also, Dukes helps develop proper batting techniques and separates the wheat from the chaff, as after the Kookaburra loses it's shine and the seam becomes flat around the 10-20 over mark, unless you are playing on a green-top or a pitch that has been juiced up a bit, there is always that long period of overs in the middle of an innings where it is relatively easy for batsmen to score.
You've got to maximise your strengths and in NZ conditions, Boult/Southee/Henry et al would've been lethal bowling with Dukes.
True. The worst thing about the NZ conditions is their pitch don't deteriorate.
@@cdn3470 Like Australia, many of the venues where cricket is played in NZ use drop-in pitches because the venue is used by other sports. In Australia, AFL uses the cricket grounds in winter and in NZ, it's predominantly rugby union.
Regarding the particular venues in Australia that use drop-in pitches, the MCG pitch is the worst of the lot. Since 1996 (since drop-ins became permanent there), there's been very few test matches which have offered much for the bowlers at the MCG.
The 2017 Boxing Day Ashes test would have to be one of the most boring test matches I've ever watched. Both teams scored relatively slowly, were very defensive in their batting approach, balls from fast bowlers weren't carrying to the wicketkeeper from day 1, the pitch scuffed up the ball very early in the innings, the day 5 pitch didn't look much different from day 1 and could've been used for another 5 days! It was just a terrible endorsement for test cricket in general.
How can kookaburra seriously think people respect their ball? They had to play with two per innings just to make them last a 50 over game! Tennis ball with tape does the same job.
Your comment is utter nonsense.. The Kookaburra is extremely durable and unlike the Duke does not make ordinary bowlers appear good .
What sort of tape? Gaffer tape? And which brand? Clothe or vinyl?
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@@mrstacker1430 you are delusional. I've seen tests where they go through 10 kookas.
With 2 balls being used in ODIs, I'd say a kookaburra is fine. But for the tests, make it diverse with Dukes, SGs and ofcourse k'burra.
Which is better for spin bowling?
Mr. Jajodia should do cricket commentary
Great swing at the start
Use ball which swings more for betterment of crick
Dukes needs to work more on pink and white cricket balls.
kookaburra is better than dukes because it helps spinner, batsman and bowler
Nice cricket ball
This might only be an aussie thing, but isnt changing your gameplan and what you do with the ball as the ball get older and doesnt swing anymore like one of the major parts of test cricket
judging by the comments, if you're australian and don't actually know, you like kookaburra. if you're logical and honest, australian or nor, you prefer the duke.
You're probably Indian, therefore you have no idea what you're talking about when you say words like "logic" and "honesty". Dukes favor bowlers who can't naturally swing a ball, nor have any ability to deliver line and length consistently. Personally I don't care what ball countries use. But idiots are always amusing.
not indian, just not australian. anyway johnny depp, you know nothing cricket.
Depends. I think growing up bowling with a kookaburra makes better bowlers because you are taught patience and accuracy combined with pace and it shows with how much better Australian bowlers are compared to England. But yea personally I'd rather play and watch cricket with a dukes.
I preferred Duke because it's all start hand crafted from 1700
A ball should assist bowlers just as a bat assists batsmen. Hence the Dukes will always be superior.
Kookaburra tests the bowlers patience