Inside Lilium, the German company trying to revolutionize air travel
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- German aerospace company Lilium wants to revolutionize air travel with its electric vertical take-off and landing (eVTOL) jet.
"Revolutionize means make it absolutely zero emission," Lilium CEO Klaus Roewe told CNBC Tech in an interview.
"We want to make a regional plane that has a decent transport capacity to have a meaningful effect on CO2 emission reduction."
Less than a decade after being founded by four university students, the group is now one of Europe's leading eVTOL companies. In 2019, Lilium completed a test flight of its all-electric five-seater aircraft. It is targeting certification by 2026.
"There was a lot of efficiency gain made by the structure, by the systems, notably by the engines. However, you can see it's now coming to a kind of plateau," Roewe said.
"Getting another 20%-30% out, in terms of CO2 reduction, is very, very difficult. So, you have to make a leapfrog in terms of technologies."
Lilium, which is backed by the likes of China's Tencent and Earlybird Venture Capital, has started taking orders from the premium market. One jet will cost about $9 million.
The company is also developing a six-seater version, which will set a buyer back about $7 million.
The eVTOL space is fiercely competitive, with more than 400 companies and innovators registering designs on the World eVTOL Aircraft Directory.
However, Daniel Wiegand, Lilium's chief engineer of innovation and future programs, said the company has an offering that is different from its rivals.
"Most of our peers are using propellers. These propellers have the advantage that they're a bit simpler to design and they need less power in take-off and landing, but they're less efficient in the cruise flight," Wiegand said.
"We are focused on regional flights. We have picked the jet technology because it yields longer range."
Watch the video above for CNBC Tech: The Edge's tour of Lilium's facilities in Weßling, Bavaria.
This video is a part of a four-part CNBC Tech series on eVTOLS. You can check out the other parts below:
• What are eVTOLS? The evolution of 'flying cars' explained - • What are eVTOLS? The e...
• Inside Alef, the company trying to build a car you can both drive and fly - • Inside Alef, the compa...
• Inside Lilium, the German company trying to revolutionize air travel - • Inside Lilium, the Ger...
• Take a ride inside Ehang’s fully autonomous, two-seater air taxi - • Take a ride inside Eha...
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*Thank you for watching. This video is a part of a four-part CNBC Tech series on eVTOLS. You can check out the other parts below:*
• What are eVTOLS? The evolution of 'flying cars' explained - ua-cam.com/video/7gLBJpnmAo8/v-deo.html
• Inside Alef, the company trying to build a car you can both drive and fly - ua-cam.com/video/qtzuL3WSiGY/v-deo.html
• Take a ride inside Ehang’s fully autonomous, two-seater air taxi - ua-cam.com/video/XBCq6JGKqUg/v-deo.html
I really hope Lilium can commercialize before going bankrupt
I really hope they go bankrupt before they become a court case
The endless experimental flight highly efficient at burning investors money.
You're the one who'll bankrupt first 😂
This project makes me think: When woke people become engineers. Fits mindset of „Energiewende in Deutschland“.
Commercialize to DO WHAT??? This is inferior to both the plane AND the heli...
This is the most beautiful and inspired EVTOL craft I've seen. I truly want them to win.
Aviation will be one of the last industries to fully electrify, but it will happen. The transition will start from the bottom with smaller short-haul aircraft and work its way up. Designing from scratch is way more optimal than converting existing aircraft. Lilium looks like they are doing awesome work. These kinds of companies are the future, and the future will be clean, sustainable, and less noisy.
Its not necessary to electrify all sectors because it will increase the reliance on China due to supply chains that mostly mined in that country therefore your claim is baseless and intended with the aim of destroying the West
I think it might actually be one of the earlier ones. Aviation is very centralised and mostly owned by larger businesses which are much more open to cost-saving innovation than private users or small businesses. And fuel costs are THE cost driver in aviation, electrification is not only an environmental question but has a significant economic incentive. Another hurdle to electrification is the availability of recharging infrastructure which is much easier to provide at airports and helicopter landing pads, compared to cars/trucks or even ships.
Proud Investor ❤🎉
You are an avid future believer
Here we see the "lift" design. Create low pressure on top of the wing, over a wide area. Having multiple engines makes for safety, and controlled variable performance.
Omg I literally thought that was Thomas from the car channel for a while, they sound exactly alike! 2:45 😂
Its a scam.
Selling to the rich will never go out of fashion ✅
Everybody should look at using a Tether cart to launch. Look what that might do for your overall operations if you were able to get off the ground and gain some speed before you went to full battery. If you wanna make a standard aircraft that isn’t EVTOL but electric that make carts to launch and land them so they don’t have to have any undercarriage. we also need to make portable landing zones so people like first responders can pull one out of the back of their vehicle. Set it in a clear spot and make sure the area stays clear communicating with the aircraft. LIDAR, Light, set light Internet connection in one package. We need the same thing around the world to make cheap landing zones that are safe.
i would always worry when they move very quickly on from the propulsion details to emphasise the fact that you will be able to have a trim finish in whatever style you want.
Great German engineering skills!
no, it barely flies as an empty model ... most Canadian RC hobbyists can do better than that
i am an investor....pretty heavily...i would love to have a version for MSFS to fly virtual.....
Do a fully loaded test flight!
Great Video and very interesting Company! :)
When others busy try to kill each other,,this team create new tech..
And how does it do in icing conditions ?
You are not being honest, what provides the thrust?
First, great respect that Lilium refers to other companies as "peers" and not "competitors"!
All for a cleaner, quieter, more exciting future!
Fellow hornswogglers.
Future technology looks like this
1400 Million € and no flying, real size prototype in 9 years!
"AI how long did it take to develop the helicopter?" Answer: "The development of the helicopter has a long history. The idea of the rotorcraft, which characterizes the helicopter, was already known in ancient China and was used in the “Flying Top” toy 2,500 years ago. Leonardo da Vinci made the first sketches of flying machines around 1487-1490. But it wasn't until the 20th century that the development of helicopters really took off. It ultimately took over 500 years until the helicopter was “perfected” in its current form and flight dynamics."
but at what cost?
It's definitely fcev fueling. Battery components are hard & fuel cell flies 2 1/2 times longer and can carry way more being much liter.
But is this fuel efficient when landing and take off? VTOL's buggest problem is it uses too much energy/fuel when it takes off and land.
I’m enjoying following the lLillium journey. Like any new pioneer lots of head winds and pessimism, however I can see the vision.
The sooner eVTOLs arrive, the better.
I want flying cars so bad!😫
evtols are not flying cars , they are meant to be a taxi service and not a private flying car, because if everyone has it the traffic will not decrease
@@pedroreis2095 To you, maybe.
In my eyes, they look like humanity's first true step into realizing one of sci-fi's most iconic and desired tropes.
I wish i could train to fly these cool jets.
….our business model, hmm…, is to grasp as much public funding as possible…
electric aviation needs much lighter but powerful batteries...innovation currently ongoing...better battery chemistries
I love Lilium ❤❤❤
Awesome!
Lilium❤
Wow,, Future of Aviation, Well Done.
This has no near future, if you want to see future, look at their competitors
Lilium has the best technology for EVTOL's but, they need to move a little faster towards commercialization.
such an american statement
That's not how German companies work...🤦
What exactly is best on a prototype after 10 years that can barely fly empty?
It has never been lifting a single person - its just a large RC prototype
The nice looking stuff with seats has never been flying at all - great technology🤣
Looks Nice
I bought lilium stocks for 10 bucks. Looking forward to becoming a millionaire in 2030
Let's go lilm
...and everybody else in GA still flying leaded gasoline. xD ...lets hope this tech evolves and adapts fast. And maybe also bring out a 4 seater for about 500k - 1mio €....
sure hope so
Easily one of the most unique and efficient EVTOL designs, but this video doesn't even talk about the mechanics...
I’ve been watching this company for a decade. Yall are late.
It seems CNBC didn't see the thing fly in Wessling. Did any journalist ever fly with it or at least film a crew doing a test flight?
Not in Wessling, but we were there for the test flight in Spain: ua-cam.com/video/-z5llj9RUVc/v-deo.html
@CNBCi an unmanned remote control small prototype isn't the same
this is such a beautiful design, just wish it went flat to the ground for wheel chair access.
It’s amazing--it’s pretty arrogant to have one pilot in a commercial aircraft.
Not necessarily for everyone for the forseeable future, but definetly something worth investing into. At the time pilots would be replaced by AI, this might even become a highend public transportation vehicle for say otherwise hard to reach places or should mass production become really cheap overall for anyone. Just not with human pilots.
That’s one fancy comb.
Some people might think the last word in your Comment should begin with a letter 'B', or even a 'T'...
(Just kidding. Or am I?🤔)
this is a fluff piece.. what is an electric jet motor, how does it work, it sounds revolutionary
It's a fairly simple electric ducted fan. They call them "jets" for exactly the reason you've noticed - to make it sound like they're doing revolutionary things.
@@ericmaglio No. They’ve explained previously. They call them jets because they’re enclosed in nacelles, like a jet engine.
We walk through some of the different eVTOL designs in our explainer, which came out earlier this month: ua-cam.com/video/7gLBJpnmAo8/v-deo.html
Can it fly?
no it drive
Not with a single person on board and not past line of sight
I hope you become huge. The Volkswagen of electric flight.
The Mercedes of electric flight
NONE OF THE OLD OEMS HAVE MANAGED TO SUCCEED COMMERICAILLY IN ELECTRIFICATION!
ONLY ONE COMPANY HAS AND ITS CEO HAS PROMISED TO MAKE A VERTICAL TAKEOFF AND LANDING SUPERSONIC AIRCRAFT IF NOBODY ELSE DOES!
EHANG is the much better bet on the EVTOL industry
Wow
USD 9 -7 million..!?
For the rich as expected
you can’t take a lithium battery on board an aircraft, but you can use one to power it 🤣🤣
In their development stages they already had a model burn out - I guess they take high current lines seriously now
It's a design and marketing company. Any experienced engineer will confirm how inefficient and wasteful it is under the hood. A decade in the making and still no figures reported about the workload.
Specifics?
@ziad_jkhan Totally agree with you
@@ovariantrolley2327 It's more about the lack of specific. Again, there has been zero disclosure of the workload carried during the tests or the energy consumed. Ten years went by and hundreds of articles and videos were published but we still don't have access to the most basic information.
If this revolutionizes air travel, I will make a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela. All these startups do is burn money. Have we not seen countless examples of this?
No hard facts such as range. What to do at the end of usefull batterie life of 8-ish jears?
Has a long history in aerospace industry- but we don’t talk about that.
How can they be a "leading eVTOL company" when they haven't even created a prototype that has been flying with a single pilot/passenger?
I thought CNBC had some journalistic standards, like doing research and presenting facts? Instead its just an ad trying to keep the investors on board.🙄
Since 10 years are looking at an "RC plane" that can't fly with a single person on board and are annually pretending to sell a 6 or more seater very soon?
Its also not a jet unless you call your blow dryer a jet as well ... its a ducted fan ... just like an inefficiently small propeller inside a tube.
I am really waiting for the day they can finally present one of two people on board and make it fly some 30-40km, then I'll start to take them serious.
wenn ich Wasserstoff schon höre,.. wie real ist denn dann das Ganze,..
An der Stelle kann Wasserstoff wirklich Sinn machen, auch wenn es dann noch teurer wird, aber bei den ineffizienten Triebwerken mußt Du extrem viel Strom liefern, was mit aktuellen Akkus und dem unglücklichen Leistungsgewicht quasi nicht möglich ist - da ist Wasserstoff tatsächlich eine Option.
I've seen the scooter batteries blow. I couldn't imagine these
Why the range is not mentioned. Welp everyone knows. Enter range anxiety in air.
Range Anxiety is already one of the biggest issues in aviation. It's why the USA banned trans-oceanic twin engine jets for most of the 1900s, and why several models don't fly transpacific fights. An e-mobility plane not talking about range when Boeing and Airbus lead there marketing materials with range is laughable. Domestic flights are a huge market, so even if this e-jet has crap range they could sell 200 private jets given a big Walmart order or something similar. Walmart has all of their regional managers fly in and out of Arkansas every week, and they go to like 3-4 remote rural cities in the usa a week to check on operations. Other businesses would buy a lot of e-jets too, but you got to give them range if you want to compete against bombardier or lier jets
Because it's garbage.
It's meant as urban helicopter replacement... So think lots of short point to point flights from say Calabasas to LAX or Montauk to Manhattan... I believe it's 300 km range, 300 km/h... So something like that...
They are loosing big money and running out of angel investors to rescue them from their miserable fate.
Orders with lots of exit clauses for the doubtful purchasers.
Do we NEED it?
There will be no traffic if everyone if flying.
Who's "we"?
Nothing new in this video all old stof, when do we see one flying withe a real person onbord.
Don't use cheap stuff made from China or else u ain't gonna be billionaires. Customers safety is always come first.
There will be quite a bit of Maydays.
Fixed 3 stages of flight:
> Range-xiety
> Pan-Pan
> M'aidez
Jet? How can it be called "Electric jet"?!
Better than Tesla!
That is the future!
No car anymore!
You couldn’t ask how they source their lithium and other materials? It doesn’t matter if you’re carbon neutral when flying if you’re destroying the ocean floors and stealing from and ruining indigenous communities with the lithium mining. Just a thought on how you could probe at more important questions than just “are you carbon neutral?”.
NO... Just no... we don't need private vertical takeoff vehicles... Why? I DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO AN AIRPORT. And if all my neighbors get one of these, I will live next to an airport...
What ever this is, it's not journalism.
😮😮😮
😂right, 45 minutes of electric power....when the battery is brand new, it's not too cold, and you don't spend too much time hovering. Flying VFR FAA/EASA requires you to retain 30 minutes of flight time AT Destination....for a reason. That's at best a 15 minute mission. A zero minute if you fly IFR. But battery are getting better and cheaper, right ? Well why do regular people turn their back on them ? At least you don't have to a lift an entire Tesla ou VW to make the journey, and the only penalty to drain out the battery is to park on the side of the road, and the only casualty, self-esteem...this is balloony, all about Vr, design, (AI anyone), and btw carbon is NOT light, it's stiff and strong...if you actually use them properly, in heavy loaded aerostructures, otherwise, plywood or wood &fabric, or even aluminium is a much lighter option. This is a graphic design-driven project, not a rationale engineering choice.
There is no way they can get 5 minutes at full size with a load.
Lithium ion batteries? The same batteries that cause 25 of every 100k electric cars to catch fire? No thanks.
I think this is a scam.
Insurance alone wouldn't be a viable model
Tencent has stake in lilium
So.
Soon to be known as 5 cent.
Gogogo Joey :'D
Why are you flogging this failing stock?
Can't even get to 200 mile range.
That company seems to have a great product but its all bla bla and no product in sight
1:07 Someone tell him that you don't drive planes.
Electricity comes from coal, oil , nuke and gas power plants. Whats the point of this plane?
Why they do not use Solid Hydrogen as their power source is suspect. Surely they know this is the only way to achieve extended flight times, yet they and others do they not use it? Why? Suppressed by Big Oil?
Big fail
whata bullshit idea
There is no such thing as zero emission. You just move the emissions to another place. We need to go completely nuclear, not electric. Nuclear is the greenest and safest source of energy.
LMAO. A ZEV has zero emissions during operation which is huge milestone for any vehicle considering the huge amounts of operating emissions otherwise from fossil fuel vehicles.
Electricity can be produced from recyclable renewable technology which is some of the lowest emission power technologies available that are only getting cleaner.
"Safest" Perhaps In terms of their operation track record but their severity remains at the catastrophic level.
Even then the storage management (or disposal) of nuclear waste alone poses a significant safety hazard.
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The development of nuclear fusion could offset some of these severities compared to traditional nuclear fission.
I say "could offset" since it's still in the experimental stage meaning there are uncertainties still left unknown...
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Of course, obviously, this is all (hopefully) accounted for, with the current and future nuclear
safety methods especially the need in the pace of Innovation of reducing these hazardous cases.
@@GinnyGlider Yes, "catastrophic" is the operative word here. Nuclear power is the only form of energy that can produce catastrophic 20,000+ year variety.
It's not just the immediate effects either. There are long-term psychosomatic effects even if one is only near the radiation zone.
Villages and towns near or downwind of irradiated zones (Chernobyl, Fukushima-Daiichi) will be especially prone to this. Because, for decades later, every lump in their throat or body will cause them to wonder if it's the start of a cancerous growth because of their proximity. Constant fear is no way to live.
Long term effects of nuclear may not be known for decades either. If a person died of cancer 30+ years after, how can we know how much of that was related to long-term exposure? they could have avoided the cancer altogether perhaps. The accounting of causation may be masked by decades of time.
People are well aware of this. All communities will have a large section of residents that will fight against a new nuclear plant anywhere near their neighborhoods. Nuclear power will come against NIMBY to the extreme. Add that to the long construction times and huge budget overruns.
If you are still not supposed to eat game or mushrooms from the wood near you because Russia fucked up more than 30 years ago, you might find yourself thinking differently.
Lets not pretend. They are going broke and running out of angle investors.
Orders with lots of exit clauses for the doubtful purchasers.
The best thing that could ever happen to me is pessimistic people like you, Joey. Without such people the price would be much higher. Luckily it hasn't been for the last 4 months and I was able to get in cheap :) Thank you very much and please continue to be pessimistic
Joey, I notice you have made a heap of comments on this video, all of them negative and all of them have been downvoted to the bottom of the list. We all see videos we don't like and perhaps give one negative comment, but there has to be a reason for so many negative comments from you. So I have to ask why you are so passionately against this company? Did someone who works there do something nasty to you?
@@Dave_Sisson The fact that they are using l-ion is a major issue. 25 per 100k electric cars catch fire. When this happens in the air it will be far more catastrophic. Battery powered human/cargo flight will require far better batteries. They wouldn't have a hard time finding investors if these prototypes had a significant amount of field testing under load in varied conditions. I'm not counting them out completely, nor am I a pessimist. My great grand uncle was taught to fly by Wilbur and Orville Wright and is in the Canadian aviation hall of fame. He believed in reasonable risk as do I. I just think that certain hurdles need to be cleared which are not being addressed, not at least in this video.
Yeah they been spruiking this snake oil for years. It's an accident waiting to happen. 10 million for a range of what ??? 150 miles. They don't even have a full scale test model yet after all these years. Snake Oil. Design is flawed. One major power outage and it's doomed. No control surfaces !!!
Orders with lots of exit clauses for the doubtful purchasers.
One major outage ... there would be redundancies and motors are very reliable
It's the FUTURE
When they'll crash or jam midair, how many will die below?
Dont worry, if you wear a seatbelt. You will be fine
@@cybertruck2008 ... and a helmet on the ground.
no they will not, because its probably never going to fly with people on board within the next years
once there comes first, the second is a CHEAT, you know which.
We already have flying car, we call them elicopters