As a veteran of 6 years in the USAF and 30 years flying for a major international airline, I have a critical question: how is aircraft traffic assigned/controlled? We all know that aircraft cannot be flying willy-nilly in the surrounding sky.
Great comment “hybrid” is the flexibility needed imop with these types of aircraft,so loads of freight combined more passenger capacity doing more equals more profitable opportunities.
Great discussion with Sergio Cecutta! It’s refreshing to see an objective take on the eVTOL industry and the challenges companies face. While there’s no shortage of ambition from pioneers like Joby, Archer, and Lilium, it’s important to stay grounded and recognize the complexity of scaling up, ecosystem development, and infrastructure needs. As competitors in the space, we’re excited to see how different companies tackle these challenges-whether it’s through battery tech or alternative fuel sources like hydrogen. The variety in design approaches is what makes this race so interesting!
The gladiators enter who remains standing only time will tell fingers crossed Good luck to all
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This is the first vid I've seen that does a fine job of balancing optimism with reality. I do feel with current technology that hybrids will give the best balance of safety and range anxiety. With a lesser percentage pure EV in short commuter hops. The standards will be incredibly high because fast charging does seem to increase the risk of thermal runaway. A first world economy runs on the efficient energy we can produce now not the energy that hasn't even made it off the drawing board.
I am still excited to see any real progress in this industry be it hydrogen, electric or hybrid powertrains... As long as they are cheaper and quieter, I approve...
the point he made about american cities being kind of weird is one thing i never realised until now. It is actually so true, in the uk for example, maybe wing works well in london but i doubt u will see as many efficiency gains in Manchester or Edinburgh. Infact even in large cities a company might run multiple models just becuase it makes more sense to use deca copter evtol for shorter routes then the winged.
So basically the companies started out thinking it was possible but now know its not and won't tell so others jump in the fray and try. One day people will want proof they can take the weight of people a distance that would matter.
Did he say $300 TICKETS!?? I thought these were supposed to be cheap intracity travel options. These are nothing but cute science experiments. I mean, buy 1 Lillium. Or 10 new Hill Helicopters? These things are WILDLY expensive. Battery tech isn't here yet. MAYBE in 4 or 5 DECADES the eVtol might become a thing.
I have heard that these eVTOLs can cost $10M each. Ticket prices will need to be high. A Robinson R66 helicopter can carry the same passengers and costs less than $1M. If this air taxi service is so popular how come no one is doing it now with a cheaper helicopter?
Joby, Archer, Volocopter, Lilium, Beta Technologies, Wisk, etc have all posted videos of test flights. Check out their UA-cam channels, and we also often use clips from these flights in our videos. Thanks for watching!
@AINvideo empty edited flights. There is no proof they can lift a pilot and passangers for a full minute. They need to prove thet can lift and move the needed weight. Its never been proven by anyone.
Why these guys couldn't replace some of the helicopter hops from New Orleans to Gulf of Mexico offshore rigs? They always fly stuff like tools out at the helicopter premium.
Yep. Batteries weigh a lot. Hydrogen fuel cells might be the way forward. Hydrogen carries lots of potential energy with very little weight. Plus, it floats and burns upward, so put that fuel tank on the roof and we're good to fly.
If the battery technology was ready for this then it wouldn't be hard for companies to make evtol aircraft. Its not ready that's why there is no evidence on earth that any of them can lift the load they say they can and go the distance they say they can.
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I own Joby, Archer and Lilium. I am hopeful that just one of them takes off (pun intended) but hey if all three are successful, heck yeah. I think Joby is much further along in every aspect but hey, more to come....good luck to all.
I get the impression that there is much posing but very little flying. Any truth to that? it's just not that hard to make a people drone and the decades are starting to tick by. I'm not impressed.
Any plane powered by Li-Ion batteries is going to kill everyone on board, at some random time, when the batteries decide to incinerate themselves. Truly crazy stuff. I would NEVER fly in one!
The Boeing 787 had large lithium ion batteries but only a few non fatal fires so far! Actually, LG just announced a fire suppressing battery separator on 1st October 2024
Excellent video on the whole industry with a lot of insights! Thx!
i agree it was really good
So I’m the only one who thinks if this was an expert he would tell us which company is most promising? This expert video is speculative bunk.
As a veteran of 6 years in the USAF and 30 years flying for a major international airline, I have a critical question: how is aircraft traffic assigned/controlled? We all know that aircraft cannot be flying willy-nilly in the surrounding sky.
Great comment “hybrid” is the flexibility needed imop with these types of aircraft,so loads of freight combined more passenger capacity doing more equals more profitable opportunities.
¡Gracias!
Great discussion with Sergio Cecutta! It’s refreshing to see an objective take on the eVTOL industry and the challenges companies face. While there’s no shortage of ambition from pioneers like Joby, Archer, and Lilium, it’s important to stay grounded and recognize the complexity of scaling up, ecosystem development, and infrastructure needs. As competitors in the space, we’re excited to see how different companies tackle these challenges-whether it’s through battery tech or alternative fuel sources like hydrogen. The variety in design approaches is what makes this race so interesting!
The gladiators enter who remains standing only time will tell fingers crossed
Good luck to all
This is the first vid I've seen that does a fine job of balancing optimism with reality. I do feel with current technology that hybrids will give the best balance of safety and range anxiety. With a lesser percentage pure EV in short commuter hops. The standards will be incredibly high because fast charging does seem to increase the risk of thermal runaway. A first world economy runs on the efficient energy we can produce now not the energy that hasn't even made it off the drawing board.
I am still excited to see any real progress in this industry be it hydrogen, electric or hybrid powertrains... As long as they are cheaper and quieter, I approve...
i agree
the point he made about american cities being kind of weird is one thing i never realised until now. It is actually so true, in the uk for example, maybe wing works well in london but i doubt u will see as many efficiency gains in Manchester or Edinburgh. Infact even in large cities a company might run multiple models just becuase it makes more sense to use deca copter evtol for shorter routes then the winged.
Plug-in hybrid vectored thrust vtol should be the first step in scaled production of electric transportation aircraft. Batteries will catch up
How many more start-ups will fail before we find one to rely on..?
❤ Fascinating 👏
So basically the companies started out thinking it was possible but now know its not and won't tell so others jump in the fray and try. One day people will want proof they can take the weight of people a distance that would matter.
Great Interview. Lots of new business knowledge
Nice video....
现有所有模态都不见得是最终模态，而且还面临自动驾驶后地面交通时效提高的竞争，在地面和民航夹缝中求生存的eVTOL需要安全的前提下，在场景、性价比、猎奇等多方面寻求出路，否则商业化的可能性就会逐渐缩小，因为你也不知道到时候天上还会飞出来什么载人飞行器
Did he say $300 TICKETS!?? I thought these were supposed to be cheap intracity travel options. These are nothing but cute science experiments. I mean, buy 1 Lillium. Or 10 new Hill Helicopters? These things are WILDLY expensive. Battery tech isn't here yet. MAYBE in 4 or 5 DECADES the eVtol might become a thing.
I have heard that these eVTOLs can cost $10M each. Ticket prices will need to be high. A Robinson R66 helicopter can carry the same passengers and costs less than $1M. If this air taxi service is so popular how come no one is doing it now with a cheaper helicopter?
@zepm7184 there is a limit on the amount of noise that densely populated cities can take. Evtols can change that
Could the technology concept be wrong to begin with?
Show me the flight tests
Joby, Archer, Volocopter, Lilium, Beta Technologies, Wisk, etc have all posted videos of test flights. Check out their UA-cam channels, and we also often use clips from these flights in our videos. Thanks for watching!
@AINvideo empty edited flights. There is no proof they can lift a pilot and passangers for a full minute. They need to prove thet can lift and move the needed weight. Its never been proven by anyone.
Why these guys couldn't replace some of the helicopter hops from New Orleans to Gulf of Mexico offshore rigs?
They always fly stuff like tools out at the helicopter premium.
6000W/kg cf 250W/kg? Ooooooof
Yep. Batteries weigh a lot. Hydrogen fuel cells might be the way forward. Hydrogen carries lots of potential energy with very little weight. Plus, it floats and burns upward, so put that fuel tank on the roof and we're good to fly.
Hydrogen has its share of problems too, has to be very highly compressed, it’s very difficult to transport and it can go boom?!
The guy was laughing when he said it too.
If the battery technology was ready for this then it wouldn't be hard for companies to make evtol aircraft. Its not ready that's why there is no evidence on earth that any of them can lift the load they say they can and go the distance they say they can.
I own Joby, Archer and Lilium. I am hopeful that just one of them takes off (pun intended) but hey if all three are successful, heck yeah. I think Joby is much further along in every aspect but hey, more to come....good luck to all.
3, 5, 7 years it’s all good! DCA into position to eventually profit!
@SharkOrDie DCA?
Thurst vectoring has no future in civil passenger transport.
Specifically electric..
Boa noite helicóptero com turbinas
I get the impression that there is much posing but very little flying. Any truth to that? it's just not that hard to make a people drone and the decades are starting to tick by. I'm not impressed.
Joby has flown their S4 over 33k miles. The only other company that has been flying as much is Beta Technologies
@@livingroomguitarist7 that's about 2 minutes of flight per day in the 15 years they have been at it. Are we there yet?
@@livingroomguitarist7Energy density.
My comment removed, because l commented about energy density?
We did not remove any comment, for what it is worth. We appreciate a good discussion.
Any plane powered by Li-Ion batteries is going to kill everyone on board, at some random time, when the batteries decide to incinerate themselves.
Truly crazy stuff. I would NEVER fly in one!
The Boeing 787 had large lithium ion batteries but only a few non fatal fires so far!
Actually, LG just announced a fire suppressing battery separator on 1st October 2024
contain your ego - we are NOT heree to see YOU talk!!