A DEEP Analysis of Michael Jackson’s Changing Skin Tone! | the detail.

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  • Michael Jackson's skin and its complete transformation has been a fascination as well as source of controversy for the artist even beyond his death. A subject matter that has taken almost two years for me to weld the courage and considerable knowledge needed to address and openly discuss this most polarising of issues.
    In this video, we go deep into Michael Jackson's changing skin tone, the development of his disease and what treatments he used to treat, disguise or accelerate his condition.
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  • @Xscape128
    @Xscape128 Рік тому +3328

    I personally think he should've opened up to the world about his skin condition during his 1986 award speech. I'm sure the public, especially the fans would understand. It would've been a weight off his shoulders, and it would raise awareness on Vitiligo. Something like this can be very traumatic, and you can see the sadness in his eyes during those years trying to cover it. Unfortunately he was very private and insecure, which led to the media starting rumors of their own

    • @feliciapillow5860
      @feliciapillow5860 Рік тому +480

      No one believed him when he spoke the truth. He aways said, people wanted to hear fantastic news or bad news. The truth can be boring. Love you Michael.

    • @BillieJeanIs
      @BillieJeanIs Рік тому

      It was probably too late by the late 80s as the media had already made up its mind he was a freak, so no one would have believed a word he said. After he disclosed it in '93, it wasn't until his death that the mainstream opinion shifted towards believing he had it. Perhaps there was a small window of opportunity in the early 80s, but it looks like the condition hadn't developed enough yet; and even then they would probably have written trash like "he claims to have vitiligo, but it was really just a ruse to cover up the fact he was about to turn white" or some other rubbish. You can't win against a propaganda machine that's hell bent on making you look bad. And that's beside the point that health matters are private, and one is not obliged to disclose them in public, although we can agree in this case it was a sensible and practical thing to do.

    • @feliciapillow5860
      @feliciapillow5860 Рік тому +20

      @@BillieJeanIs You said it right!! ✅

    • @awm4359
      @awm4359 Рік тому +327

      Trust me, the public would have not been compassionate and understanding when it came to Michael. They would have done anything to destroy his reputation since they were so intimidated by his success as a black man. Even after he did admit he had a skin condition in 1993, it was not followed by kindness from the public. So his admission was definitely not a load off his back.
      The fans would have understood for sure. We have and will always support him. ❤️

    • @feliciapillow5860
      @feliciapillow5860 Рік тому +30

      @@awm4359 Facts!!!

  • @winsbeyond8295
    @winsbeyond8295 Рік тому +1409

    I remember as kids, my siblings and I sat around the tv awaiting the world premiere of Black Or White. We were surprised at how much different he looked at first (Compared to the Thriller and Bad Era), but we were happy that he was back with new music and videos and didn't focus on the lighter skin tone. (He always looked cool no matter what!) That's the way Michael wanted it to be, that we enjoyed and appreciated his talent first and foremost.

    • @jbassey231
      @jbassey231 Рік тому +45

      Remember that premiere too. I actually don't think he look that much different in that video to the BAD era except for the hair style and suttle make up changes.. He still had some complexion. It was Remember the Time where it was more noticeable to me. The Black or White video was an event though! Half the world stopped to watch that. 3ven remember trailers/adverts in the UK leading up to it

    • @darylallmanful
      @darylallmanful Рік тому +20

      @@jbassey231 I felt exactly the same. I remember when Black Or White aired on TOTPs the skin tone didn't shock me too much. I was more obsessed with how he turned into a black panther 😂 ( I was only 4).
      Then when he toured over in UK the media just focused on his face.

    • @jbassey231
      @jbassey231 Рік тому +11

      @@darylallmanful 😂 We're the same age! I watched it on TOTPs too! I remember the weeks leading up to it airing they were showing the advert with MJ walking through the fire... I used to run to my babysitter for a hug every time it came on coz I was so scared 🤣 Funny coz that video is what made me a Michael Jackson fan from then on.. That and Moonwalker coming on TV about a month later....

    • @renrose2386
      @renrose2386 Рік тому +14

      I was a child and I was impressed how he managed to change so much, I thought that was fantastic in my childhood innocence

    • @crazy4corbinbleux
      @crazy4corbinbleux Рік тому +7

      Woah, I never looked at the Black or White music video this way. I was born in '95 so it's before my time but this is great info to know of the past. Thanks for sharing.

  • @masker9885
    @masker9885 Рік тому +755

    I think people often forget he was the most famous person pretty much on the planet. Imagine dealing with several conditions whilst already being insecure from your family teasing you whilst going on stage whilst having millions of people constantly watching you. I mean you would have to be Jesus himself in order to take the amount criticism Michael took. 99 percent of people would completely break in his situation

    • @Diamond92826
      @Diamond92826 Рік тому +51

      Exactly. Some people can be hypocrites. Most of the people who criticized him for his skin disorder would have done the same thing if they were in his position. Some celebrities these days bleach their skin for fun and beautification purposes, those are the kind of people that should be criticized but no, it is someone with two skin diseases that cannot be cured easily they are still ranting about.

    • @swolfe9668
      @swolfe9668 Рік тому +3

      Michael was famous up to 1984 when he died, Frank Jespin a lookalike started posing as MJ in 1985 when the BAD Album was released

    • @daprincebeats
      @daprincebeats Рік тому +2

      no lies

    • @swolfe9668
      @swolfe9668 Рік тому +1

      @d b that's what makes this the most believable
      Black Michael and white Michael

    • @leslieplantz2455
      @leslieplantz2455 Рік тому +7

      His father was the main reason he was insecure about his looks when Michael was younger. His dad made fun of him and said he had fat nose.

  • @jeancristaldi8762
    @jeancristaldi8762 Рік тому +1503

    Michael had vitiligo. It was on his autopsy report. It was listed very high up on the report which means it was readily visible to the eye. It was one of the first things noted. It was his choice on how to treat it, no one else's. It was his business, no one else's. Besides it doesn't matter what shade a person's skin is. As Michael himself said a person should be judged by the content of their character not the shade of their skin. And the content of Michael' s character was impeccable.

    • @Snyper1405
      @Snyper1405 Рік тому +101

      Probably one of the nicest human beings to ever walk the earth he never ever judged any one, and even when he was accused of sexually abuse he never blamed the children that's just how great he was and will always be known as a shining beacon of wisdom.

    • @hannaz4617
      @hannaz4617 Рік тому +40

      Exactly, I really agree with you. Everything you wrote is just my opinion as well. It's so personal and private. This man had no privacy at all. Everybody had to tell him what to do, it's awful. Since he was a 5 year old child he only had to do what other people told him. He had no freedom of choice. And who cares? He can decide for himself what treatment he wanted or if he wanted to keep his medical records private. Why should he tell EVERYTHING to the public and that he should have justified every step in his life. Nobody does that.

    • @hazybrneyesmd
      @hazybrneyesmd Рік тому +16

      To Jean, Hannah and Lucas......I agree with all 3 of you and appreciate your comments. As a huge fan of Michael and admirer of Michael the human being, I personally get in my feelings when ppl talk poorly of him, judge him and call him names. Plastic surgeries or no plastic surgery, vitiligo, BS rumors about his character....I hate and it hurts my heart how he was in such pain emotionally and physically. He had vitiligo....I’m my mind....so what. Ppl don’t take the time to think about him being called names by his own father and those that claimed to love him hurt him by their words when the only thing he gave us other than great music....was his love. For whatever reason he chose not to share his disorder with the public, that was his business and his business alone. I don’t care if his skin was turning transparently clear like glass. Why is it such an issue? An issue then and still an issue now. Besides, who would want to share when you’re already being verbally beaten at every corner he turned. I remember the exact day he passed and where I was. At that time I was on the medical staff in a local jail. I was in a room with somewhere around 75 new arrests for the day. One man waiting to be processed yelled out “Yo yo yo......Everybody STFU....Michael is dead!!!!”. All the TVs were turned up to the max and I’ll tell you, the room literally went from men yelling, cursing out officers, etc to where you could hear a pin drop. No exaggeration. Complete silence. All you could hear was the tv. The announcement of his passing interrupted the regular program that was on. Like a severe weather advisement or a message from the President. Numerous ppl (staff and inmates) began crying, myself included. Dudes that were being combative with guards just simply stopped. Everyone was put in holding booking cells without a single disturbance. They were asked to go into the cells and every last one of them did so like “obedient children”. It was like time froze. This man was loved and adored yet was also judged, criticized, betrayed and extorted. I pray he is resting well. 🕊🙏🏽❤️💔

    • @Snyper1405
      @Snyper1405 Рік тому +8

      @@hazybrneyesmd well said! MJ was adored by so many

    • @elkstereidolon3523
      @elkstereidolon3523 Рік тому +4

      Jackson played 'Dave Dave' after supposedly dying.

  • @buddyraw9778
    @buddyraw9778 7 місяців тому +58

    I must give major respect to The Detail as this platform is the ultimate example of professional journalism, (literally) detailed researched information and respect for Michael Jackson himself. There's no gimmicks, zero sensationalism, embellishments, slick cheap shots or personal opinions about the person for whom is being discussed that is Mr. Jackson. There's caring involved in this content and it shows. I appreciate this channel so much. Respect on all levels.

    • @thedetail.
      @thedetail.  7 місяців тому +7

      Thank you!

    • @imagephobia9815
      @imagephobia9815 3 місяці тому +5

      @@thedetail.first time viewer here and yeah it definitely shows, very good job!

  • @sam041390
    @sam041390 Рік тому +650

    He was criminally misunderstood because of his condition....People like to judge because they're not experiencing it.....As a human being and a black man, I can't never know how he felt going through all the BS, I can only feel bad

    • @DinaTinyworld
      @DinaTinyworld Рік тому +6

      Totally agree

    • @Op3ium_
      @Op3ium_ Рік тому +5

      Exactly bruh

    • @cube5750
      @cube5750 Рік тому +2

      I "suffer" from this condition...for me, he'll remain a coward man for doing what he did.

    • @sam041390
      @sam041390 Рік тому +10

      @@cube5750 Well, back then the world wasn't as acceptance like it is now and when he did come out about his condition but he mocked and laughed at for it

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 Рік тому

      @@sam041390 your comment makes no sense.

  • @EclectickMusic
    @EclectickMusic Рік тому +118

    Man, vitiligo is an awful thing to have. And I’m saying this from first hand experience. Covers at least 60% of my legs arms and face. My hands and feet are now 100% white. The changes began to happen about 16 years ago, and showing now signs of stopping completely(although it has slowed).
    Some people deal with it better than others. But I can imagine how difficult it must’ve been for MJ to go through it at a time when he was the most famous person on the planet. I can comprehend why he decided to make other changes overtime. But those decisions were made by a man not thinking with a great deal of clarity. May he rest in peace 🙏🏾

    • @happyguy2k
      @happyguy2k Рік тому +5

      Aw sorry to hear, i can imagine it being a stressful time in your life especially being black. But yes MJ on an international stage I imagine it was a terrible time for his mental health.

    • @gaila.9852
      @gaila.9852 Рік тому +4

      How gradual or sudden were the changes?

  • @jsjsmsksixxmsmss
    @jsjsmsksixxmsmss Рік тому +73

    Vitiligo is rare....no matter what....i still remember his words' " *Am proud to be a Black* "

  • @nodiggity8497
    @nodiggity8497 Рік тому +75

    What's important is Michael's message to the world in his music. His private life is his.

    • @Ski3953
      @Ski3953 Рік тому +4

      Amen.

    • @nimue4325
      @nimue4325 Рік тому +1

      The obsession with his skin colour is excessive, so much speculation. I stopped watching after the narrator "undiagnosed" the red butterfly blotches which are often early indicators of lupus.

  • @nonofyourbusiness8651
    @nonofyourbusiness8651 Рік тому +538

    the last quote of michael's brother describing his vitiligo was painful too hear...the fact that everyone still chooses to believe that michael wanted to be white TO THIS DAY shocks me, he was way too precious for this world.
    love how informative this video is, i hope many see it so they are educated about his skin condition

    • @thedetail.
      @thedetail.  Рік тому +47

      Thank you, highly appreciate your kind comments

    • @Abdultidus
      @Abdultidus Рік тому +41

      i believe that many white/non-black people gain personal satisfaction from the idea that he wanted to be white/became white. the notion being he was too great to be "just black"

    • @nonofyourbusiness8651
      @nonofyourbusiness8651 Рік тому

      @@Abdultidus yes exactly...people are sick and refuse to get educated on the man

    • @SRBOMBONICA86
      @SRBOMBONICA86 Рік тому +13

      ​@@Abdultidus it's so obvious he had vitiligo ,like literally

    • @cakepudding3220
      @cakepudding3220 Рік тому +31

      But he also chose to have pure white children and date exclusively white women. He did have a self loathe issue

  • @t.j6457
    @t.j6457 Рік тому +254

    Michael Jackson was perfect with both dark and light skin .... as a child when I watched his videos I didn't notice any difference he could be light or dark for me he was always unique the greatest and still is.👑

    • @hannaz4617
      @hannaz4617 Рік тому +19

      Michael had always a great style and class, and he always looked very attractive. His style was often so perfectly creative to his music and dance. He was genius in creativity and in his appearance and his choices of clothes. He always had his own unique style. I love him, no matter what skin tone he had.

    • @hannaz4617
      @hannaz4617 Рік тому +4

      @@saywhat303 Little jealous??? Oh... poor "Say What" is not famous and wealthy! Jealous of Michael's success? Only men are doing such comments, that's weird!

    • @mar2smooth54
      @mar2smooth54 Рік тому

      @@saywhat303 stfu clown foh here obviously your not a fan

    • @t.j6457
      @t.j6457 Рік тому +1

      @@saywhat303 ladies and gentlemen here is the answer of an IDIOT😂

    • @ROCKBOY7TH
      @ROCKBOY7TH Рік тому +1

      @@hannaz4617 he just talking facts u lot act like he a god anyone hv the right to speak what they think.

  • @DJDoubleCee
    @DJDoubleCee Рік тому +503

    I do believe that Michael did have vitiligo but I also think he lightened his skin just even out the blotches he may have had. Which I don’t blame him for doing.

    • @typicallytalya
      @typicallytalya Рік тому +14

      True

    • @tjamal1154
      @tjamal1154 Рік тому +31

      he only did it to his hands and arms. i’m pictures in 2003 you can still still his vitiligo spots on his legs meaning he didn’t permanently bleach his skin

    • @DTownNash
      @DTownNash Рік тому +35

      Yep. Benoquin cream is typically given to patients who've lost more than 50 percent of their pigment.

    • @texsion
      @texsion Рік тому +49

      Don’t have to “believe” he had it if you can physically see in photos and his official autopsy says he had it

    • @tired4250
      @tired4250 Рік тому +53

      not bleached! he used a creme to even out and it’s only for vitiligo patients!. that’s a difference

  • @Phillyhippie215
    @Phillyhippie215 Рік тому +229

    I can’t stress enough how spot on you guys are with helping some of us fans crack the code to questions and feelings we’ve had for decades. The fact you even bring up how he looks brown off stage Vs light skinned on stage in the mid to late 80s truly shows how embedded you guys are to us fans. Because we all tried to make sense of it and find better understanding as well.

    • @PurposefullyTCG
      @PurposefullyTCG Рік тому +9

      Agreed!

    • @thedetail.
      @thedetail.  Рік тому +19

      Thank you! I have felt the same and spoken to many fans about these aspects of Michael Jackson’s evolving look. I hope the next video will give further clarity on this most controversial of issues

    • @crazy4corbinbleux
      @crazy4corbinbleux Рік тому +5

      Agreed. I am amazed at the data the author found from 7:50 to 9:40

    • @emmanueldixon3892
      @emmanueldixon3892 Рік тому +5

      @@thedetail. There are videos on UA-cam of Michael dancing with Emmanuel Lewis and dancing after the Pepsi accident. In those videos the vitiligo is apparent on his arms. I’d love to hear your take on those 🙂

    • @Phillyhippie215
      @Phillyhippie215 Рік тому +1

      Tbh very honest. It’s always 1985 that makes me question of whether or not he played a bigger part in turning lighter. By 87 he still was very bronze. Which means the disease didn’t progress. But I’m 85, his skin looked lightened, not make up, but skin deep lightened. Which could mean he may have bleached his skin, with the contributing vitiligo over time. Either that or he just used darker toned make up at times through
      Out the mid to late 80s.

  • @TheAdamChaney
    @TheAdamChaney Рік тому +90

    I remember being so confused when I saw Michael in his later years. At the time, I had only seen the Thriller music video. My mom explained his skin disease.

    • @HakeemTheDream616
      @HakeemTheDream616 Рік тому +18

      Lmao I was born in 90, and it was the opposite when I first seen younger Michael from the Jackson 5. I was 3, and my mom told me Michael was coming on TV. I was so confused when I seen the young black Michael I became upset, and thought she lied to me LMAO 🤣

    • @pejroyal9115
      @pejroyal9115 Рік тому +2

      As a kid I use to think there was 2 michael Jackson’s cause of the drastic change in his appearance. I have an uncle who has dealt with vitiligo all their life .

    • @andrealuisecandido1154
      @andrealuisecandido1154 Рік тому

      ThaT
      vinyl
      dvd
      cd i never buyed ... only few OThERS

  • @Blue-or3oj
    @Blue-or3oj Рік тому +47

    I feel for him 🥺... I loved his skin tone but no matter what he's still black.

  • @typicallytalya
    @typicallytalya Рік тому +302

    For people who are saying they are insecure about their skin tones is okay. You don’t have to change to be lighter or darker we are created the shade given. People like Micheal had a skin condition meaning he had no other choice but to even the tone out with makeup to match the color his skin was getting or in other words kept the natural vitiligo look. We all are beautiful human beings luv u all❤️also pls do not tan or bleach every single time if you choose to lighten or darken ur skin it causes skin cancer.

    • @magicmermaidasmr
      @magicmermaidasmr Рік тому +2

      It’s not possible to bleach the skin n change skin color, it’s just market… you can use creams used by Michael only if you have vitiligo, that should be prescribed by your doctor

    • @larryjones3124
      @larryjones3124 Рік тому

      He did not. He had vitiligo.

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 Рік тому +7

      Of course he had a choice. He could have said "I'm going to let them see the real Michael Jackson" but he didn't trust his fans to accept his real skin.

    • @jeancristaldi8762
      @jeancristaldi8762 Рік тому +1

      @@magicmermaidasmr Yes i believe the cream they found at Michael's house only works if you have vitiligo. When i googled vitiligo treatments that cream is one of them. Guess which one was listed as the number one treatment and the most common? Makeup!

    • @AVG-ub5sj
      @AVG-ub5sj Рік тому +3

      What about a his nose?

  • @NazzYr101
    @NazzYr101 Рік тому +87

    It doesn't matter if you black or white, but seemingly it did matter if you black and white.
    But in all seriousness.
    I'm sorry you had that trial MJ. The world still loves you just as you were. Still.
    Just wish you'd have been able to look past the flaws and be happy as you were.
    May you rest in peace and may we see you again one day.

  • @eazye1083
    @eazye1083 Рік тому +41

    It’s crazy cause growing up as a kid we never thought about it. It never crossed my mind that he looked different from Thriller to Bad, he was still Michael Jackson. Even now showing my 4 yr old daughter his videos she’s never asked why does he look different. She just knows that’s the King of Pop, Michael Jackson. I think there’s a beauty in that no matter how he looked we just saw him!

  • @JasonVoorheesFriday13th
    @JasonVoorheesFriday13th 5 місяців тому +9

    Poor guy, he had many things going for him like his extreme talent and wealth but he was also disadvantaged by his numerous health conditions and life traumas, I honestly feel bad for him. He was a big part of my childhood and his music still inspires me as a 29 year old man. I hope if there is a heaven he's performing for all the people up there, I love you Michael.

  • @feliciapillow5860
    @feliciapillow5860 Рік тому +201

    All the changes with Michael Jackson's features, his immense shyness and comments he made both verbally and in writing about himself makes me sad about the world in general. He's just a more famous example of how people are forced to hate who they are and what they look like. The way they are born. The qualities and features that make each of us unique. This society has a mission to not allow people to be comfortable in their own skin. Love you Michael.

    • @Chelaxim
      @Chelaxim Рік тому +12

      Body Dysmorphia combined with vittiligo and very judgemental public is a bad combination.
      As a person who has body dysmorphia tons of people commenting on my appearance would be my worst nightmare.

    • @hannaz4617
      @hannaz4617 Рік тому +1

      @@Chelaxim Michael had no body dysmorphia, that's an old rumor. He was an artist and he was exactly doing what artists are doing, they change their appearance according to their music, they are creating the character. They have to perform and in order to be successful they need to look attractive. Michael was all his life a very attractive men. You can just guess how many female would have loved it to be with Michael. Your comment dysmorphia is taken out of lexicon. I can tell you that all actors and musicians would have dysmorphia. If Jennifer Lopez is getting her injection in her whole body, face, her fillers and botox, her hair extension, eyelash extensions, her permanent makeup and cosmetic changes she would have dysmorphia as well, the same with the Kardashians, Brad Pitt, Leonardo di Caprio, Amber Heard, Angelina Jolie, Elizabeth Taylor, Paul Mc Cartney........the list is endless!

    • @cjking4511
      @cjking4511 11 місяців тому +1

      @@hannaz4617 Body dysmorphia is when you have an addiction to getting dangerous procedures. It is when you lack the mental strength to value your own health higher than your want of changing looks. For example, Michael’s nose jobs. He was never satisfied with it and kept getting revisions despite the health complications. Same goes with his abuse of prescription bleaching creams. Bleaching creams are NOT meant to be used forever. They are prescribed to help even out your skin tone. By 1991 Michael’s skin was already overall pale so when police found 28 tubes of prescription bleaching creams in his room in 2009 that is indicative he was abusing bleaching creams despite the serious health risks. None if your examples are celebrities with body dysmorphia. Getting some work done initially in your early career and regular botox / facials is not the same as continuing to jeopardize your health forever

  • @juniorfritz8268
    @juniorfritz8268 Рік тому +56

    I have vitiligo, and I underwent treatment with monobenzone to even out the color. As far as I know Michael also had this treatment.

  • @malaricsimp3511
    @malaricsimp3511 Рік тому +201

    He started having the patches during the thriller era , so yeah it definitely took more than 3-4 years for drastic change in skin colour, those acne creams and spf left a white base , and definately worsened the state of his skin . That redness on his face looked like he had harshly exfoliated his face probably due to acne insecurities he had , or had a terrible reaction to some product. It's sad that the vitiligo skipped one generation in his family and Michael was the only one who had the worst of it , Jermaine had on his thigh , and clearly it didn't spread that much lucky for him .

    • @WILL_aka_TROID
      @WILL_aka_TROID Рік тому +17

      The rashes came from lupus

    • @malaricsimp3511
      @malaricsimp3511 Рік тому +14

      @@WILL_aka_TROID . That possibility was discussed in the video, the rashes from lupus patients were compared, it was kind of different on his face . The skin definitely looked irritated with a bit of inflammation.

    • @dmer-zy3rb
      @dmer-zy3rb Рік тому +9

      What about latoya though? She was noticeablely lighter too or was it just the light makeup?

    • @malaricsimp3511
      @malaricsimp3511 Рік тому +23

      @@dmer-zy3rb . It was both , she was naturally lighter than her siblings and used lighter makeup , tbh there weren't many options for dark skin foundations back then , still today not many brands who claim to be inclusive have options for darker complexions.

    • @kkibela
      @kkibela Рік тому +10

      Ive heard snippets of him describing these horrrible interactions with the public as he was transitioning from a 'cute little kid' into a man and the reactions to his acne he had to deal with sounded nothing short of traumatic. It would not surprise me if he got the Chemical peels for his acne and then that plus the emotional trauma triggered the vitiligo. A lesson is to be learned here.. never be ashamed of your body no matter what. As long as one is taking good care of it anything else is to be worn as a badge of honor. 🔥

  • @marsanda1397
    @marsanda1397 Рік тому +43

    You have to think bro he is a big international superstar and the media and world was less accepting he has to do it honestly. Ignorant people don't believe he had it even though it's evidence 👑💯 love you mike

  • @VedyanichevaMarina
    @VedyanichevaMarina Рік тому +18

    She sat and cried. How much purity and love was in these songs. Almost all texts are about love for children. His voice, so gentle and charming, which does not speak, but cries about human cruelty, anger and hatred! Michael broadcasts that he is not omnipotent, but will do everything possible in this world to make it cleaner, brighter and happier. Thank you dear for being with us. You continue to live in our hearts!

  • @BadAssMacmillan
    @BadAssMacmillan Рік тому +115

    Michael Jackson will always be a black icon. End of story.

    • @whitetiger3697
      @whitetiger3697 Рік тому +9

      👍

    • @TishDaniF
      @TishDaniF Рік тому +16

      RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This FACT is lost on many, I'm afraid.

    • @Chyyyyyyyyyyy
      @Chyyyyyyyyyyy Рік тому +2

      Facts

    • @crazy4corbinbleux
      @crazy4corbinbleux Рік тому +2

      Forever!

    • @vaitalv9361
      @vaitalv9361 Рік тому +15

      He might be that but let’s keep it a buck, he worshipped whiteness. Even vitiligo aside, he changed his hair from naturally coily to straight & altered his natural nose.
      Invited mostly white kids to his ranch, married a white woman, later arranged for another one to legally marry & adopt him two white children who are now heirs to his estate.
      People can deny it all they want but the man wasn’t that proud of his roots despite what he said in interviews. A person’s actions tell you more than their words.

  • @craigsilver9
    @craigsilver9 3 місяці тому +5

    I grew up in the 80s on Michael Jackson and didn’t know anything about plastic surgery, vitiligo etc…. I just remember when the bad album came out and saw his pic on that album. We were all like “wow, what happened to Michael?”
    As late as 1989 and 1990, I remember Bad concert footages where he looked just like Thriller and Off the Wall MJ after he sweated off the makeup or whatever he had on - and there were no pale spots anywhere. His face structure was changing though with his plastic surgeries (chin implants, nose etc)
    But he def did something in the early 90s that permanently changed his pigmentation. I think he was a troubled man with self image issues vitiligo or not.
    I was an obsessed young MJ fan and probably too young to comprehend whatever was going on. The greatest performer ever anyway. RIP.

  • @winterdreller5840
    @winterdreller5840 Рік тому +19

    Every time I see a Michael Jackson transformation video, I always hope it doesn’t end the way it does

  • @JokerInfinityWar
    @JokerInfinityWar Рік тому +71

    I have a theory that even though he genetically had vitiligo, the whole issue got out of hand after the Pepsi burn which put him in enormous stress which may have accelerated the process

    • @kodeinekowboy3750
      @kodeinekowboy3750 Рік тому +3

      How does a hair burn accelerate a skin disease

    • @DTownNash
      @DTownNash Рік тому +25

      @@kodeinekowboy3750 stress can cause it to progress faster.

    • @rickramos2410
      @rickramos2410 Рік тому +4

      @@kodeinekowboy3750 If you have medium to dark colored skin and you burn yourself on an area of your body bad enough, that area can lose some of its pigment.

    • @JokerInfinityWar
      @JokerInfinityWar Рік тому +13

      I mean huge stress can trigger dormant diseases and we all know MJ was always stressed. The burn was just the cherry on top of the snowball

    • @FinnedOcean9389
      @FinnedOcean9389 12 днів тому

      Fact checked, stress can seriously exacerbate vitiligo. It makes sense to me now because my dad had vitiligo, his right leg had a large patch of lighter skin and over the years his legs slowly lost a lot of pigmentation but other parts of him remained largely melanated.

  • @nodiggity8497
    @nodiggity8497 Рік тому +201

    I found his statement to Oprah to be the most truthful thing he may have ever said about his skin, when he says something like "people don't care when others tan to become other than what they are". I read into that statement as a confession of sorts. I really don't care if he lied, did or didn't have vitiligo, he should do what makes him happy, at the end of the day it really is nobody's business if he bleached his skin or not.

    • @thedetail.
      @thedetail.  Рік тому +33

      Thank you, I reference that statement he made in the next video

    • @kendrickcampbell7187
      @kendrickcampbell7187 Рік тому +8

      @@thedetail. could it be that Michael had Vitiligo of some form. And he went to the deep end of using depigmentation when it may not have been necessary? I never seen a picture of MJ with patches from the 80s. Like not on fingers or anything. Just self conscious and fame, and media scrutiny? He actually looked better when he wore minimal or no makeup in the late 80s Bad Era

    • @juvelynmorales3421
      @juvelynmorales3421 Рік тому +7

      That's true... white skinned people tried to make their skin appear tan

    • @eaqua56
      @eaqua56 Рік тому +2

      @@juvelynmorales3421 not permanently though.

    • @juvelynmorales3421
      @juvelynmorales3421 Рік тому +6

      @@eaqua56 if MJ didnt have vitiligo, his pale skin also will never be permanent.

  • @dragonballsuper1519
    @dragonballsuper1519 Рік тому +29

    If you love one version of Michael Jackson (be it the Bad era or the Thriller era or the Jackson 5 era or the HIStory era etc, etc) you love all versions of Michael Jackson. Its strange but true.

  • @Vic292
    @Vic292 Рік тому +54

    He also had lupus…which often times gives the patient a reddish butterfly rash. So he might have also been using make up to conceal the rash as well. People tend to judge when they don’t know the underlying conditions that people might be suffering!

    • @thedetail.
      @thedetail.  Рік тому +18

      Did you watch the full video? We did mention this

    • @Vic292
      @Vic292 Рік тому +4

      @@thedetail. I saw, thanks!

    • @evanicander2023
      @evanicander2023 Рік тому +2

      @@thedetail. but you claimed it is also a rash, though it can be just a flush on the skin... like on Michael.

    • @evanicander2023
      @evanicander2023 Рік тому

      @@RA82828 But wouldn't bleach give an even blush all over the face?
      What is the name of the bleach you are you referring to?
      And what is the name of the hairtreatment you say can give the same result? (I don't want to use it!)

    • @CCI320
      @CCI320 Рік тому +5

      @@thedetail. You did not. you suggested he may not have had the molar rash from lupus when his doctors have confirmed he did. You tried to suggest his red cheeks were from bleaching or "harsh treatments". You are not fooling me.

  • @Kai-hk7tl
    @Kai-hk7tl Рік тому +46

    Hes still a black man regardless and people should have respected that he had this condition.

    • @Akumaten1
      @Akumaten1 Рік тому +2

      But he didn't publicly reveal it until much later...by then the speculations had already ran rampant.
      He shoulda spoken about it much sooner.

    • @hannaz4617
      @hannaz4617 Рік тому +6

      @@Akumaten1 No, he has a right of privacy! He doesn't has to do anything. Everybody should have the right to live their lives as they want to live their lives. He had the same rights as you, to do his own life decisions.

    • @Akumaten1
      @Akumaten1 Рік тому +2

      @@hannaz4617
      True, but when you have a career like HIS, in a world like THIS--You can't afford to do that.
      Thats the Price of Fame...
      You cant keep a private life AND simultaneously be in front of the spotlight with such a startling visual transformation...Lets just keep it 💯
      Cant happen.

    • @hannaz4617
      @hannaz4617 Рік тому +3

      @@Akumaten1 You can to a certain degree. I know that Vanessa Paradis, her children, Rod Stewart, Ringo Star, Mariah Carey...... they keep their privacy and their popularity and professional life pretty separate. In Michael's case it was the false accusations, the hate, greed and jealousy that made people go into his private life. The media used every little detail to put Michael down or to do any negative reports. The media was paid by big people of the entertainment industry for any negative reports. Michael's doctor in Ireland said in an interview he was offered a 6 numbered amount of money if he would give any negative information to the press. People like Weinstein, Epstein, Geffen, they wanted to see Michael in court. On one hand he would lose so much money that he had to sell his ATV music catalog and on the other hand the sensationalism would distract the media to find out about the crimes of the real criminals. I have to say, it was sad to watch, very sad!

    • @bobbykiefer4306
      @bobbykiefer4306 22 дні тому

      Nobody from the public beat him up, assaulted, or shot him.

  • @calebgilstrap5092
    @calebgilstrap5092 Рік тому +11

    Wow, I just realized that this entire channel is dedicated to Michael Jackson.

    • @Danishmastery
      @Danishmastery Рік тому +2

      It also took me a while to realize at first 😂

  • @lucidmind9676
    @lucidmind9676 Рік тому +45

    I bet it was weird af being a MJ fan back in the 80s and seeing in real time how his complexion changed after Thriller. Being a 96 baby and growing up with the Invincible era MJ. I thought he was a white man until I saw the Thriller MV later on. It’s so sad that such a kind hearted soul had to deal with so much issues throughout his lifetime and many of it being out of his control

    • @tiffanymorris8427
      @tiffanymorris8427 3 місяці тому

      You know he was not white he danced too good to be white.

  • @crazy4corbinbleux
    @crazy4corbinbleux Рік тому +26

    7:50 - 9:40 woah, insane how you found this information. In my 13+ years of studying and obsessing over this man I didn't know about this period of time and how his skin color truly looked

    • @Tyriq_23
      @Tyriq_23 Рік тому

      Don’t tell me your white I don’t think his family like white people

  • @JPX64Channel
    @JPX64Channel Рік тому +21

    mj's dark skin tone during those bad era rehearsals and private photos suited him better than the makeup

    • @DTownNash
      @DTownNash Рік тому +5

      Seriously. For someone who let him tell it was proud to be black, he certainly didn't do much to look dark. I know he had vitiligo but still why purposely try to look lighter ?

    • @JPX64Channel
      @JPX64Channel Рік тому +7

      @@DTownNash i suspect he was proud of his race but didn't want to look like his father at all, and maybe body dysmorphia as well

    • @CCI320
      @CCI320 Рік тому

      That WAS makeup. Michael's makeup artist and some of the photographers who did his photoshoots have stated that Michael was is FULL body makeup during that time.

    • @CCI320
      @CCI320 Рік тому

      @@JPX64Channel Yeah he "didn't do much" Thats why he was wearing full body makeup to stay brown right? Lets see you use full body makeup every day of your life and then you can judge.

    • @JPX64Channel
      @JPX64Channel Рік тому

      @@CCI320 i mean i get it he was full on makeup, but it doesnt make a lot of sense that he looked whiter in the actual concerts but darker in private footage??? like he was using brown makeup for private stuff and whiter makeup for concerts and video shootings?

  • @janiemccoy5630
    @janiemccoy5630 Рік тому +70

    I grew up with Michael's music I don't care what he did or didn't do on the outside. I watched him because I loved his talent and his heart was kind . He had enough pain he didn't need to be judged for his looks, just for his King of Pop talent and he wore it to the fullest.

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 Рік тому +3

      How do you know his heart was kind? People thought Jimmy Saville was kind.

    • @FullHouseFan1313
      @FullHouseFan1313 Рік тому +1

      How do you know he wasn’t

  • @magalufff
    @magalufff Рік тому +14

    It is different when you are not in the spotlight, Michael was so famous and all eyes of the whole world were on him.No wonder he wanted to look perfect, I really feel sorry for him these tabloids were picking on every aspect of his life. He had so many health conditions to fight with plus he was a very sensitive person and he still kept going.I love you Michael. Thank you@The Detail for another amazing video and creating great MJ fans community. Can’t wait for the next video 🙂

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 Рік тому +1

      The eyes of the whole world were not on him. How many records did he sell? There are 8 billion people on this planet. Most of them don't listen to him.

  • @elizabeththurman5536
    @elizabeththurman5536 Рік тому +25

    It wasn't as outspoken then, im white and have vitiligo so it's not as recognizable. But it covers my legs and arm pits as well as other parts of my body. It has come out more recently and has been more acceptable. I cant imagine what Michael went through, In front of the world.

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 Рік тому +1

      Some people embrace it. It all depends on whether you have a positive outlook on life or not.

  • @naynayhi93
    @naynayhi93 7 місяців тому +19

    As a child, I didn't understand much, but MJ's skin was very normal to me. I never thought negatively about it. I just accepted what he looked liked in each era because he was still Michael Jackson

  • @jamietingey7498
    @jamietingey7498 Рік тому +8

    I never cared how he looked. He made great music and danced like no other. He always had that beautiful smile and gorgeous eyes.

  • @michaelpeters78
    @michaelpeters78 Рік тому +28

    pretty sad. you can see the self consciousness in his face and people kept asking him about it. he seemed like such a friendly guy.

  • @MichaelJacksonMultiverse
    @MichaelJacksonMultiverse Рік тому +19

    2:06 the picture in the right was edited by myself back in 2018, I explained I did that with the purpose of explaining how his vitiligo would look like if he had no makeup on. So it was already known it is an edited picture, and not meant to be used as a real one, but many fans did, that's why you said it was "debunked".

    • @kodeinekowboy3750
      @kodeinekowboy3750 Рік тому

      @@lilmamagc you riding him too hard it’s ok bro

    • @crazy4corbinbleux
      @crazy4corbinbleux Рік тому

      Woah!!

    • @moonwalkers5823
      @moonwalkers5823 Рік тому

      Well, I believe it's an edit, I don't believe that vitiligo spreads like that.
      more like foundation cream.
      did you edit the other michael photos too?
      like the photo when he wears a green shirt and reads the newspaper?
      sorry if my grammar is bad🙏

  • @trentonbates3114
    @trentonbates3114 Рік тому +28

    When it comes to skin lighting I think michael was saying he didn't just do it to be white, I think I was trying to say he did it because he had to. Thriller Michael jackson is a mad handsome guy btw!

    • @jahniquasimmons
      @jahniquasimmons Рік тому +8

      I agree! Michael was a really handsome and attractive Black man! I love Thriller 💘 Best way to describe his pov is: he was Michael Jackson (his trauma, his individuality) with vitiligo in a race-obsessed America. Like others, he used the FDA-approved treatment as medication. That means he'd didn't "bleach" his skin because the creams were prescribed by doctors that diagnosed & treated his vitiligo (and Lupus). All of this has been verified many times over, with candid/private pictures & even at his death. You also have to put the time period into perspective & all of the race obstacles that he triumphantly overcame. Michael didn't have the best relationship with his family & he was private. He may have had substance abuse issues but he was human & trusted people that didn't always have the best intentions! None of us know him personally but one thing's for sure is it was his skin, his body & life ultimately. This video did a good job but it glossed over Michael's experience of being Black. If you really did your research you'd see that his transformation wasn't until 20 years after his diagnosis in the 1980's and he still had patches of brown skin. A lot of people simply take pleasure in mocking the "irony" and projecting their insecurities & racism. Overall, Michael is king ✨🎶

  • @sammbabazi2849
    @sammbabazi2849 Рік тому +23

    Michael Jackson is the strongest person I know, he was a genius yet he had too many hurdles to jump, his health, his choices, nobody could ever do all that in 50 years! Black or white he looked cool, and his videos are beautiful, I will always love him no matter what!

  • @cindyski4413
    @cindyski4413 Рік тому +68

    His father verbally abused him for his looks, he had a hard time accepting his own looks by drastically changing then, of coarse, people would think that he had bleached his skin. It is what it is. He was still admired for his music. It is what it is.

    • @lisacox3750
      @lisacox3750 Рік тому +1

      Michael changed because he wanted to change - that's all. The whole family teased each other...and Michael teased his siblings. He doesn't get a pass.

    • @brendaniebel1355
      @brendaniebel1355 Рік тому

      His dad, was a jerk.

    • @anthonycogburn8715
      @anthonycogburn8715 Рік тому

      ​@@lisacox3750agreed

    • @CCI320
      @CCI320 Рік тому

      You can't even bleach your skin that white. It's impossible. Even the most affective treatments today in 2023 will make make your sin as white as Michael's. People who believe the bleaching nonsense are idiots. Period.

    • @johanliebert1012
      @johanliebert1012 11 місяців тому

      Don't even care what color he is. He's still the Michael Jackson. We should actually be happy because he gained confidence and no longer anxious to his condition.

  • @MJ4lifecalifornia
    @MJ4lifecalifornia Рік тому +11

    He was the most beautiful person I’ve ever seen in my entire life, no matter what his skin color was ❤ We love you Michael ❤️❤️❤️

  • @courtneyyoung6777
    @courtneyyoung6777 Рік тому +18

    Micheal Jackson is forever 🌸🌼🥰👏💞🌷👑😄💙😘

  • @ayww4911
    @ayww4911 Рік тому +13

    I love this channel. It’s so nice to watch videos that are respectful, yet do not insult our intelligence by ignoring facts. Keep up the amazing work!

    • @thedetail.
      @thedetail.  Рік тому +4

      Thank you so much, I find it mind-blowing people just ignore stuff you can see with your own eyes so to stick to a narrative they have been fed.

    • @teacherdayanne7218
      @teacherdayanne7218 10 місяців тому

      Me too!

  • @starjackson58
    @starjackson58 Рік тому +10

    He is the mirror,of the universe…No nudity or bullshit ,just a properly dressed gu sitting on a stool for three minutes, singing with his amazing voice..He is, beyond all time ,an angelic heart,the only thing that saddens me is that we have not been able to hold him..Thank you for KİNG MJJ🎩

  • @morrisgoss6262
    @morrisgoss6262 Рік тому +16

    That is so sad, I can’t even imagine going through what he had to endure, please let’s not judge another unless you walk a mile in their shoes, unless you went through what he did, you’ll never really understand how he felt, the toll it took on him, and just to bring himself some level of comfort, what he did to relieve and/or escape it. I can only say, wow what strength of character he has, especially knowing that he would never be a white man no matter what. Personally I think that he should have been even more proud of himself, for overcoming. Rest In Peace. Mr. Jackson, rip, what a hell of a life you had.

  • @josiea5musings
    @josiea5musings Рік тому +4

    Thanks so much @ the detail people have said all sorts about this man's skin disease.... the last quote was quite sad.. RIP Gone but not forgotten.

  • @bernhardandresen
    @bernhardandresen 8 місяців тому +8

    Media destroyed this man systematically

  • @yashyadav1976
    @yashyadav1976 Рік тому +18

    Love you MJ forever 💕

  • @gelilawitasefa6247
    @gelilawitasefa6247 Рік тому +9

    I really appreciate how this channel is unbiased and making all the effort to present the truth. Well done!

  • @lais2759
    @lais2759 Рік тому +26

    Com certeza durante os primeiros anos do vitiligo a pele dele devia voltar ao "normal" retomando a cor e depois clareando novamente, acho que com o tempo as manchas avançaram e acabou sendo muito mais fácil assumir o tom mais pálido, Michael sempre cobria o corpo o máximo que podia, sempre usando chapéu, óculos, maquiagem, é muito triste que ainda hoje as pessoas ainda continuem a fazer piadas com a aparência dele, ele fez o que podia para lidar com o vitiligo e o lupus, isso só me faz o admirar ainda mais.

  • @daryltracy7949
    @daryltracy7949 Рік тому +20

    Oh my goodness🤦🏾‍♂️. Even after the autopsy was shown confirming his vitiligo, some people in the comments still believe he lied about it.

    • @christaylor7916
      @christaylor7916 4 місяці тому

      ​@@gamingassassin6669
      just because his autopsy said he had vitiligo doesn't mean that he truly had it. They could have simply put down that he had vitiligo due to certain areas of uneven skin that could have been a result of bleaching and NOT vitiligo. I don't know if he truly had that skin condition.. however it is suspicious that I never seen ANY spots when he would go shirtless during thriller era, bad era and during the 90s...

    • @christaylor7916
      @christaylor7916 4 місяці тому

      just because his autopsy said he had vitiligo doesn't mean that he truly had it. They could have simply put down that he had vitiligo due to certain areas of uneven skin that could have been a result of bleaching and NOT vitiligo. I don't know if he truly had that skin condition.. however it is suspicious that I never seen ANY spots when he would go shirtless during thriller era, bad era and during the 90s...

  • @MsRiley1980
    @MsRiley1980 Рік тому +10

    Honestly, I didn't think he was being truthful about the vitiligo until I saw the They Don't Care About Us video based in Brazil. That's when I noticed the patches on his arm. Also years later, I saw a home video where he was dancing outside. It looked like it was between the Thriller & Bad era because his skin was brown, but he had white patches on his hands.

  • @lamiadingle2011
    @lamiadingle2011 4 місяці тому +3

    This man will always be fascinating to me. No matter how much information comes out, it's still so unclear what the full truth is. He always wanted to be a mystery, and he a achieved it

  • @rameshpyrdha327
    @rameshpyrdha327 Рік тому +8

    We the Fans never stop Loving Michael

  • @TishDaniF
    @TishDaniF Рік тому +46

    I grew up always knowing Michael was a black man even with "white" skin and with zero knowledge of the Jackson dynasty. He was an entertainer whose physical image was just as critical to his success as his likability, savvy, and talent. It is obvious that he used lightening treatments to brighten and lighten his complexion. Because he started doing this during a time when it was uncommon for darker-skinned celebrities to lighten their complexions, it seemed bizarre and self-hating. However, it is not uncommon today for celebrities of all skin tones to lighten their skin. Procedures and products are far more advanced now, so many fly under the radar. I hate that people are still so critical about the changes to his face and skin, albeit drastic. He lived a very different kind of life that few can relate to. That life came with pressures, stresses, and a whole heap of crap that would kill the average person long before 50, really. We need to stop idealizing his life and start appreciating it for what it was - a spectacular, otherworldly human experience. Once in a lifetime.

    • @hannaz4617
      @hannaz4617 Рік тому +5

      Well said! He was always attractive anyway, no matter how Michael's skin tone was. As a performer he chose always the right treatment, the right clothes, with class and style, it was perfect for his performance. He was the best artist ever!

    • @SRBOMBONICA86
      @SRBOMBONICA86 Рік тому +2

      he wasn't bleaching ,he was covering blotches to EVEN OUT his skintone

    • @hannaz4617
      @hannaz4617 Рік тому +3

      Michael had vitiligo. That means, he got white spots on his skin. The white spots are not like normal white skin, they are white as a wall. In the beginning the makeup artist Karen Faye covered up the white spots with makeup. Vitiligo is a skin disease, it makes that the white spots are getting larger and larger. Karen said, they couldn't cover up the white spots anymore. He went to a dermatologist. The treatment is always the same, the client is getting 2% Hydroquinone to lighten the dark spots. You can't whiten the skin. It's a really long process. The good thing is that the white spots are really large, so that the dark spots are easier to lighten it. Then you have to even out the skin tone with makeup. This process is until today the treatment of every person who has vitiligo. It's a skin disease that has to be treated. The white spots are sensitive to light and are prone to skin cancer. That's why Michael always had an umbrella and long sleeve shirts. To whiten the skin of a dark skinned person is not possible. I'm an esthetician who worked with vitiligo clients and I know the process.

    • @hannaz4617
      @hannaz4617 Рік тому +2

      @@SRBOMBONICA86 Exactly, Michael had vitiligo. The white spots in his face were getting larger and larger. A treatment of a dermatologist is, to lighten the dark spots with 2% Hydroquinone and than to even out the skin tone with make up. The white spots are really photosensitive and it can cause skin cancer. That's why Michael always had an umbrella and he had long sleeves shirts. It's not possible that you can whiten a dark skin person, to do like a transformation from a dark skin type to change into a white skin type. That's impossible. Bleaching the skin is not existing. And even if the client is using a lightening active serum on the dark spots, it's still a long process. Vitiligo has to be treated. It was treated that way when Michael went to a dermatologist until today. It's always the same process.

  • @user-el7hp6dm5u
    @user-el7hp6dm5u Рік тому +23

    Майкл говорил своей дочери: "помни, ты - чёрная". Принц унаследовал болезнь отца. Так что все, кто сомневаются в отцовстве Майкла, пусть заткнутся. МДж самый крутой мужчина на Земле. ✌

  • @alfredmayconnina0979
    @alfredmayconnina0979 18 днів тому +2

    An enlightening, revealing video, rich in details and truthful information. What we saw here demystifies the entire issue surrounding his skin. Congratulation on the video.

    • @thedetail.
      @thedetail.  18 днів тому

      Thank you! I created the video with all the info I wanted to see

  • @mariadorosarioleal8244
    @mariadorosarioleal8244 Рік тому +13

    Great job as always "the detail"! Anxiously waiting for part two 👍💖

  • @laisinblandinebimemo3031
    @laisinblandinebimemo3031 Рік тому +7

    I feel so pained for Michael though he's no more. I can imagine what he went through. I've happened to have disliked myself alot too and tried dealing with my insecurities by myself. I've been mocked at for having more or less of some parts of my body and it's been so traumatizing that at times I don't want to step out of the house. Seeing how courageous he was dealing with his shows despite the critics really encourages me. To an extent I think maybe he was bullied if not he won't have noticed the changes, and that's why he took the initiative of changing alot on his skin.

  • @kideternity4342
    @kideternity4342 Рік тому +42

    My older sis has vitiligo and lupus. My mom found a patch on her eye when she was 12. No one could figure this out and this was the damn 80's. She wasn't diagnosed with Lupus until 1998 after my nephew's death. Hers is noticeable, but my sister is lighter in skin tone than both Winnie and Michael. No matter how you want to see it, no one understands something like vitiligo and Lupus. He was treated like a freak by the media. Why would he want to tell them the truth when he did and they still didn't believe him. I don't blame him. He didn't have to hate himself. With the world and his father constantly being on his case about his looks, vitiligo and the debilitating disease that Lupus is, were not a help for someone with a deeply scared mental view of himself. No one needs to fess up about anything. I was young when his skin was fully white and I never said anything and I was born in 96. It could be bc of my sister, but I was never interested in his looks as much as his music and the videos. He was still a black man to me. The same thing he told people many of times and they still thought this man wanted to be white. So I don't blame him at all. They wouldn't listen then, why keep repeating yourself?

    • @jazzycat2990
      @jazzycat2990 Рік тому

      💯

    • @kelfx2853
      @kelfx2853 Рік тому +4

      Your comment is a much better than others

    • @kideternity4342
      @kideternity4342 Рік тому +4

      ​@@kelfx2853 Thank you. I just think it would be common sense. My sister unfortunately died from it after my comment. It's just people need to look at everything. He said it, they didn't believe him, he was a freak to them. But he was supposed to trust them? It's annoying. Just leave it alone. It didn't make a difference, he's dead now, just leave it alone. You know the answer. No, he wasn't obligated to tell a soul. No one is.

    • @kelfx2853
      @kelfx2853 Рік тому

      Please don't ignore me 🙏🏾. Sometimes it's very annoying people still talking more crap about Michael's change appearance and his skin. It's sad and really shocks me my heart. I'm not the biggest super fan of MJ, I don't listen his music and idolizing him but I never believed he had self hate issue and I never believed he was guilty as sin for hurting children like that. I believe he's innocent. Michael was always black on his life because God gave him born in black. He was born black man and died African American. No matter he will always be the king of music

    • @kideternity4342
      @kideternity4342 Рік тому +2

      @@kelfx2853 yeah people are ignorant when it comes to Michael Jackson. It shouldn't be a debate. Even he considered himself black until the end of his life.

  • @generfeld
    @generfeld 11 місяців тому +2

    you really did a lot of great research in this video and the other one or two about his appearance. great work and editing

  • @Kelema86
    @Kelema86 18 днів тому +2

    Dermatology resident here. At the time there was no effective treatment for vitiligo. Even today we JUST started using very newly developed JAK-inhibitors. In my country they haven’t been approved yet. I have vitiligo patients every week who I have to inform that unfortunately we cannot offer any effective treatment. There are topical treatments called Tacrolimus and Pimecrolimus that can work a little bit if treatment starts early and specifically works best on the face. UVB-light treatment can also be attempted as a treatment but doesn’t really work that well either.
    Michael Jackson likely chose to even out his skin tone with skin bleaching products. That’s how he chose to deal with this. That’s his right and his business.

  • @robertmauli1293
    @robertmauli1293 Рік тому +8

    He only revealed that to his mother and sister, Janet. Janet knew all along as they were the closest siblings. Their mother, Katherine Jackson once mentioned how he at one point confessed about it to her in mid 80s in their family home and also to Janet, when she was around 22.

  • @michaeljacksonfanclub8019
    @michaeljacksonfanclub8019 Рік тому +7

    *_-Thank you Michael Jackson for staying strong!-_*

  • @kparise8452
    @kparise8452 Рік тому +2

    Very thorough take on MJ's skin. Great job. One thing that you may have missed is the 1991 song 'Word to the Badd!! by Jermaine Jackson that was leaked in 1991. It was and angry declaration directed towards MIchael with lyrics..."Once you were made, you changed your shade, was your color wrong?... could not turn back, it's a known fact, you were too far gone."

  • @fridasrensen4411
    @fridasrensen4411 Рік тому +5

    Love this channel!❤️

  • @jackcutler9096
    @jackcutler9096 Рік тому +6

    The change of skin tone only intensifies the other worldly quality of Michael

  • @JO24499
    @JO24499 Рік тому +10

    Michael aveva vitiligo, Solo che ci sono stati persone, che non hanno creduto che Michael avessi quella malattia.
    Per me Michael era sempre bellissimo.
    Ha sempre avuto e avrà per sempre il suo posto speciale nel mio cuore.

  • @xtra8896
    @xtra8896 Рік тому +3

    Michael was so strong and resilient. Despite of everything he kept moving forward. Everything about Michael was magic......

  • @rodrigoorozco9263
    @rodrigoorozco9263 Рік тому +59

    Doesn't matter. At the end of the day he is the greatest artist that ever lived and was a pure soul ❤️ RIP michael jackson 🕊🕊

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 Рік тому +1

      He was the most hyped artist that ever lived. The greatest artists never lip-synced.

    • @lasjekaae
      @lasjekaae Рік тому

      @@onesong2001Still the greatest babe

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 Рік тому

      @@lasjekaae You think the greatest singer was a lip-syncer? LOL You're really stupid. But don't worry. In the words of Michael Jackson "you are not alone"

    • @lasjekaae
      @lasjekaae Рік тому

      @@onesong2001hate to break it to you but nearly every singer has lip synced in their career. At least Michael actually had an excuse. He was an amazing dancer to so i don’t blame him.😂😂

    • @sweetdreamscr
      @sweetdreamscr 6 місяців тому

      @@onesong2001 how many of them had to dance while singing? He did sing live and acapella many times.

  • @claudioNASCImusic
    @claudioNASCImusic Рік тому +6

    Your work is so meticulous. It impresses me every single video. Thank you.

  • @michaelmyers2896
    @michaelmyers2896 Рік тому +6

    It started in the thriller era because on the victory tour in Toronto when performing human nature you can see it on his hands and fingertips. You can also notice it during the 84 grammys on his fingers.

  • @ThemCoversMB
    @ThemCoversMB Рік тому +1

    Everything in this video was things I was wondering about. I would do a lot of image research. This video fed that curiosity perfectly.

  • @kaylenejantjes8113
    @kaylenejantjes8113 Рік тому +1

    Can't wait for part two.

  • @Char-kd6bl
    @Char-kd6bl Рік тому +8

    Wait I find your explanation about Thriller era so fascinating and eye-opening. He wasn’t trying to be lighter with lightening products, he was going too far with acne scarring treatments. Just like how he went too far with his nose, he didn’t know how to stop. Because in the 70s he was obsessed with both his acne and his nose from being made fun of. This makes so much sense. But I’m just confused on when exactly the struggle went from wanting an even complexion to battling vitiligo. I thought for the longest time that he battled vitiligo since the Off the wall era based on some photos that I know now were just perceived the wrong way by the fan community. I then realized that and the fact that he wasn’t actually diagnosed with vitiligo until 1986. Is it possible the acne scarring treatments induced a more vicious spreading of vitiligo when he probably only had a few spots on his body originally? I do know there are photos of him with almost unnoticeable vitiligo on his fingertips as a child and I do know that oddly enough it’s usually the groin area where people have the most vitiligo. That might’ve been the extent for him all his life up until 1986 when he realized it was a serious condition that was spreading and needed evaluating. Which once again not sure if it was aging or was he inducing it? Either way he started out always having a small amount of vitiligo and it’s just so amazing how he was able to lighten his skin so much BECAUSE those products work best on people with vitiligo. Without vitiligo he wouldn’t have been able to become the pale shade that he became. He was evening out his scars which in turn made him lighter than it would for the average black man because he had the underlying condition vitiligo (I’m kind of repeating myself at this point but I’m just trying to understand this fully). So it seems for the most part wasn’t even intended, right? I don’t know I think he only desired an even complexion and he thought getting lighter helped, and he ended up just making his vitiligo condition look worse. It’s really unfortunate. He went from obsessively(!) evening out his acne scars to obsessively evening out vitiligo. That’s the conclusion to me. This video just changed my ENTIRE perspective about his vitiligo, acne, and lupus and I’ve been a fan all my life.

  • @NANA-fh6we
    @NANA-fh6we Рік тому +18

    5:08 - To your point about the rash, it was actually very indicative of lupus. This type of rash is a common occurrence amongst victims of lupus. It is known as the butterfly rash or malar rash.
    6:07 - As to your point about the Victory Tour, there is evidence that he had started wearing makeup to cover up his vitiligo. Michael stated that he was diagnosed with vitiligo right after Thriller. Pictures of his makeup kit during the Victory Tour can attest to this. His makeup kit consisted primarily of a product called Dermablend. This is a high-pigment makeup created to cover burns, scars, and skin discolorations. Many people with vitiligo use this product as a sort of cover stick for the entire face. Due to the fact that it makes the entire surface of your skin one color, you have to use a few shades to avoid looking mask-like, and it’s very difficult to achieve a natural look. This also explains the more androgynous look that started around this time period, as you also have to provide color for everything else on your face - lips, eyelashes, bush, eyeshadow. As his skin progressively lightened, he used lighter shades of the product (which comes in tones for a variety of skin tones for a variety of skin colors). By the way, to avoid the presumption that Michael used the makeup for any other reason besides vitiligo, I have to point out the fact that there are pictures of of his glove that was stained on the inside with the Dermablend that he used to cover the vitiligo on his hands. There are also photos during the Victory Tour where you can visibly see the lighter patches on his ear and nose, likely due to visible sweat on his face
    8:46 - In the picture with Ryan White, his face is clearly lighter that it was during the Thriller era

    • @void2695
      @void2695 Рік тому +1

      Picture with Ryan White very clearly shows vitiligo's progress imo. You can clearly see the line, starting at about the same height as the top of his ears, running right below his eyes and down below his nose. Nose + forehead were still the original black, cheeks & the rest of his face were light. It seems obvious to me that they were adding makeup (or, well... the stuff you mentioned) to the light parts to make them blend in with the still originally black parts, but the line is still super visible - and it is on many different late 80s photos. Same line, same position on every one of them. I think the picture at 02:06 was photoshopped like that solely to point out where the line ran at that stage, though that one might not be 100% accurate.
      In fact, it's already visible on the Thriller era photo at 04:45, just not as severe - only cheeks seem lighter here, darker parts still visible below his nose, across his mouth and on his chin as well. I doubt this is due to any creams whatsoever, it all looks like advancing vitiligo to me, especially since it's perfectly symmetrical across his face, which vitiligo always is.
      I think this is why he still looked his original color on the photos after 07:50 - forehead and nose actually were, but the rest was makeup. Obviously it wasn't gonna take long after this for the nose and forehead pigment to be destroyed as well, which was done before Dangerous. Vitiligo has many degrees and the worst one does make you go pale completely. No doubt that's what he got. As to why the Bad cover was so heavily photoshopped - one could assume he wanted people to get used to what was to come. And preferred making it a gradual thing instead of shocking the world by releasing a pale white image of himself right after a fully dark one.

    • @babygurll7
      @babygurll7 Рік тому +3

      Thank you. I am a medical doctor and that was definitely a lupus caused malar rash. It does not have to be crusty like the video erroneously described.

    • @CCI320
      @CCI320 Рік тому

      @@babygurll7 THANK YOU. The detail is a hater channel the secretly trying to implant the same old false narratives about Michael into fans heads. He knows good and damn well that Michael's cheeks look like a molar rash. He knows what he's doing.

    • @CCI320
      @CCI320 Рік тому

      THANK YOU. The detail is a hater channel the secretly trying to implant the same old false narratives about Michael into fans heads. He knows good and damn well that Michael's cheeks look like a molar rash. He knows what he's doing. Its actually a very old hater tactic to try and push the idea that Michael somehow induced his vitiligo, which is stupid because something always triggers vitiligo in a person, so its just another clever way for them to demonize his and accuse him of trying to turn himself white.

    • @thepubknight6144
      @thepubknight6144 4 місяці тому

      ​@@void2695 6:14 so he really doesn't see the vitiligo on his lower neck , nose and cheeks???

  • @florenceanne3639
    @florenceanne3639 Рік тому +7

    I only wish we can begin to tell everyone in our circles that we love and accept them the way they look!
    MJ could have had a better self esteem if he heard those words of acceptance over and over and over again!
    I'm in my late 40s and grew up hearing about MJ even in Nigeria. I never really listened to his songs but of course they were regularly aired on many of our radio and television channels and I remembered well the day I noticed his skin colour change, I was somehow irritated.
    But recently as an adult, I stumbled on his bio on UA-cam and I literally wept: because of how much he was misunderstood and because he's no longer here by the time the world got to understand his condition.
    I wish he was here to hear some of the good things people say about him just because they had a better knowledge of his secret pains.
    Two things:
    1. Don't die in silence and don't live for people. Accept who you are, no matter what.
    2. Love genuinely and accept people irrespective of what they look like and ensure you regularly verbalise your acceptance of them.
    Cheers!

  • @tade5671
    @tade5671 Місяць тому

    Excellent Job! I think Micheal himself would approve of this. You've explained every single thing he was going through but couldn't tell us cos how insecure it made him. Its sad to imagine how sad and broken he most likely was on the inside while still dedicating himself to making us all Happy😢

  • @MaryMT
    @MaryMT Рік тому +4

    Black or white MJ will be forever loved and remembered as a kind and pure sole ❤️❤️❤️

  • @user-kk4pg2bt4h
    @user-kk4pg2bt4h Рік тому +10

    Майкл , мы любим тебя за твою музыку , за твое доброе сердце , за твой талант , который дал тебе Господь .
    А остальное всё не важно !!!!
    Покойся с миром наш одинокий КОРОЛЬ !!!!🙏🙏🙏🌻🌻🌻👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑

  • @lizstanton2727
    @lizstanton2727 Рік тому +29

    I love this channel it’s so informative and also not at unrealistic or bias about Michael and his life you guys do a great deal of research and are always on the mark 💜

    • @thedetail.
      @thedetail.  Рік тому +10

      Thank you highly appreciate your love, unsurprisingly I was very concerned about the public reaction to this channel addressing this topic ✨

    • @cameron_fairchild
      @cameron_fairchild Рік тому +1

      Right on! Ditto.

  • @simonandrewx
    @simonandrewx Рік тому +1

    I love voice over person. I'm glad some videos still feature them. That's not a knock on anything or anyone else though. Classy video once again. I love this channel.

  • @LynLynElyBagloy
    @LynLynElyBagloy Рік тому +5

    Thank you for sharing.

  • @rem672
    @rem672 3 місяці тому +4

    Let’s not forget his father used to say to him that he was “too black” and had a “huge nose”. It doesn’t surprise me in the least even though it is deeply heartbreaking that he carried those words with him always and they distorted his self image forever, making him change his appearance so much. It wasn’t a race thing as it was a colorism thing. He saw nothing wrong with being black in itself but rather his own complexion because his father put that into his brain at a young age. RIP 🤍

  • @maulcs
    @maulcs Рік тому

    This channel has some great objective viewpoints. Keep it up

  • @kiaragengurumo8223
    @kiaragengurumo8223 Рік тому +5

    he was special, an entertainer, a genius above us simple people

  • @WesleyGathage
    @WesleyGathage Рік тому +7

    Michael Jackson was black and beautiful all the way, even in his death, La Toya said he looked fabulous at his funeral.

  • @kdxfinesse12
    @kdxfinesse12 Рік тому +26

    While there was a great amount of Love for Michael, The world did him so dirty it's DISGUSTING. I wish more time was spent loving him for who he was and what he did for the world as far as Music.

    • @gaila.9852
      @gaila.9852 Рік тому

      So many people praise Michael. It sounds like you are only paying attention to negativity.

  • @emmaponymous
    @emmaponymous Рік тому +39

    I found Jermaine an unreliable narrator in "You are Not Alone". His description of Michael looking like white man splashed with coffee is so much more dramatic than the earlier candid images of Michael which show "splatters" if anything. I assumed he had the rare form of vitiligo (universalis) but after the points in the video I wonder if he had a more typical, limited form and decided to be proactive with the more extreme topicals. Good video as always! Looking forward to the next one. 🙂

    • @thedetail.
      @thedetail.  Рік тому +7

      Thank you

    • @user-kq8bk7pw9o
      @user-kq8bk7pw9o Рік тому

      Michael did laser skin smoothing, and more than once, this is a normal procedure t, it is still used all over the world

    • @malaricsimp3511
      @malaricsimp3511 Рік тому +4

      It was not dramatic , i have seen many people like that in real life , who have 80-90 percent of their body covered evenly ,and are left with few brown patches here and there , if you see them for the first time , you would think they just have a very light complexion but then you will notice light patches on arms and stuff if not covered. I m sure Michael might have gotten some treatment done on his face and arms , but who knows the parts of body he covered might still have the brown and white mix appearance.

    • @CCI320
      @CCI320 Рік тому

      Did you ever consider that what you were seeing was his skin in full body makeup? You do realize that they have waterproof makeup right?

  • @gleam6370
    @gleam6370 Рік тому +11

    I like his music but I’m not the biggest fan, it’s his human side that makes me love him so much. This channel showed a whole new side to Michael, a side that I can relate to
    His insecurities about his skin resonate with me so much

  • @relentlessrescue260
    @relentlessrescue260 Рік тому +6

    Another honest and detailed video on a very misunderstood subject.

  • @karmasabhenvy4226
    @karmasabhenvy4226 Рік тому +7

    It is a known fact to everybody in the Dermatological field that vitiligo causes pigmentation areas and patches over the skin however since Michael was in the public eye and nobody knew anything about his Vitiligo until 1993 then I know for a fact that the white glove with sequins was the first signs of the disease and he had advisors advised him that his Vitiligo would get progressively worse and would inevitably cover a lot of his surface area of skin so it was the decision to lighten the darker areas so that way it will blend in better with makeup when he applies it most people who have done this though would use Brown Makeup but Michael for whatever reason used whiter makeup and he did not change himself completely White you can see that in 1985 it was just a tiny bit lighter than he was on Thriller and then in 1987 he was a little bit paler but again not completely White and even in 91 and 92 though he was paler he was more yellow. It is common knowledge in the medical field that lightening cream was a common treatment for Vitiligo and some cases is still used to lighten the darker areas with a steroid cream. many people use it today and Freckle lighteners or skin eveners and they don't even realize they're using a skin bleaching cream to help lighten hyperpigmentation of the skin in little dots people will put a hyperpigmentation cream on that is a skin lightening cream. He made the decision to gradually lighten the rest of his body so that way when he sweat during a performance. cuz you got to understand if Michael Jackson was on stage he gave everything he had he gave 125% every single time he stepped out on that stage and he sweated more than any pop star I've ever seen in my life if you can see on the dangerous tour whenever he comes out for jam and he takes us some lessons on he's already drenched and sweat so even with the heaviest makeup and heaviest powder it would not be completely possible to have a makeup so thick that it will not be sweated off because the worst thing that can happen is him being on stage and his makeup running off to reveal the white patches underneath. So he is not lightning his skin tone because he does not want to be black he's lightening it because it was advised in by a professional and a doctor and if this is the best treatment as it will progress to the point where it will already be mostly White so he did. Michael Jackson did not hate being black and fat even though he got wider his music stayed black and very very Soulful if you look with dangerous and history it is very apparent and beautiful that he loves his race and believes it's beautiful. One thing people don't really know is Michael had a form of body dysmorphia and he was never satisfied with anything and he has a perfectionist and since he had the money and the means and the time he figured if I could have an afford a new nose and a new chin why not most and more people back in the day and even today if they had the money much all to their appearance in some way either with botox or filler in the lips. Michael Jackson towards the later end of his life hated the decisions he's made with plastic surgery and did not like looking at himself in the mirror. He ended up getting his first rhinoplasty in 1978 after filming The Wiz but he had breathing problems and he could not breathe very well through his nose and was still not satisfied with the size of it. So in 1981 to 82 he received a second rhinoplasty which is what we see on Thriller which is probably the best in my opinion it should have stopped right there he was so cute. His third rhinoplasty came in 1984 right before the victory tour and still being unsatisfied with it he opted for a fourth rhinoplasty in 1987 or 86 than ever and added a cleft chin. Then a Fifth rhinoplasty and either a mini brow lift or facelift in 1991 then he opted for a sixth and 1993. However this rhinoplasty would end up being the most botched of all and whenever they sewed his nose back up on the sides so much of his skin had been cut off and his Bridge of his nose had been filed so thinly that after they sewed the two sides the tip of it which had an implant placed underneath grocery the skin and a black hole probably the size of an eraser head was at the very tip of the nose and to his dying day that little hole never got closed and he was said to been found with boxes of boxes of nose tips when he was discovered after he passed. He would tape the tip on and his makeup artist would apply makeup over it and it was very apparent and it made it very difficult to perform on stage because of how much he sweats he would sweat it off and every place so during the history tour he would have opportunities after each song to go in the back and try his face off and make sure the tape is still on and do some touch-up powder it was a tiny little black hole that had little pieces sticking out of it. the nose tip had died and it was necrotic. He also got another facelift or brown lift or eye surgery in 1997 because in 2001 he really looked bad in 2001 they did another operation on his nose to attempt to rebuild it because it is basically collapsed and was unfunctional and they grafted and tried to close the hole but we're unsuccessful. but ended up going and building up a bridge a little bit with ear cartilage, to improve his breathing. but this revision didn't improve it much n MJ still had to breathe through his mouth alot because nomatter what they did, the size of his nostrils would remain tiny triangles. I am not just one of his fans who are defending him and saying no Michael did not bleach his skin ever he had Vitiligo and just use makeup I'm not also a fan who's saying and only knowing this one circumstance to base their judgment off of. You see I have a lot of knowledge of vitiligo because Vitiligo runs in a part of my family. My uncle's wife has Vitiligo and so does the majority of her family. She never used the cream she just covered hers up with makeup but her sister actually went through with the dermatologist advice and lighten the rest of her body with the cream in the 70s and so did my aunts mother. It is an extremely long process to lighten one's skin. It takes years and it never gets white at the most extremely light light gray. It will never get completely White it'll only just get extremely lighter and grayer and you can see after when he's performing some of the gray peeking through makeup. So yes lightening the darker areas is a treatment option for those suffering from vitiligo in the present and in the past. Your calling my aunts sister and mother a liar? So I guess their lightened skin and gray complexion isn't evidence enough. And my aunt was told the same thing by the same doctor. They said it was uncommon for as many people in the family to have it as they do, but they do. They were picked on and treated like freaks and my aunt sister and mother only wanted them to not harass them and people not to stare at them anymore so this is why they took the doctors advice and began the long process of bleaching ones skin. they really regret it now tho

  • @theblueprint2001
    @theblueprint2001 6 днів тому +1

    great video and great details from The Detail lol

    • @thedetail.
      @thedetail.  6 днів тому

      Thank you! Glad you liked it!

  • @cherryturner3531
    @cherryturner3531 Рік тому +2

    I love all versions of Michael 🖤