This is the most helpful, comprehensive guide for renting in Portugal I’ve seen or heard in over 18 months gathering info! I can’t thank you enough. The demo on Idealista made it easy and this list of questions to ask is a huge bonus! Thank you so much for generously sharing what you’ve discovered so far on your journey. ✨🙏✨💓
hi there. I just wanted to say that as a Portuguese, but who lives in another country, but who knows my country well, I would never choose Lisbon to live. But I know that in time you will discover more about Portugal. Here are some of the cities I would choose, Peniche, Nazaré, Figueira da Foz, Aveiro all of them are by the sea, Coimbra is a beautiful city, which has the oldest university in Europe much cheaper than Lisbon and is 1 hour from the beach. but as I said before I know in time you will find out more about Portugal and get other better solutions. In Portugal we have a saying that says Porto works, Coimbra studies and Lisbon spends!
Hi Filipe, I agree! All expats we spoke to prior moving was always just talking about Algarve, Lisbon and Cascais... Everything from Ericeira, Santa Cruz and the bits of the Silver Coast we have enjoyed so far, has been a great surprise. There is so much of this country that keep surprising us... Every few km's there is a new hidden gem :-) Thanks for commenting and adding value :-)
@@HyggeJourney I understand the points of view that you give in relation to job opportunities, as well as working at home with greater visibility in what you do, without a doubt, Lisbon will be the best place for you to continue what you do. But without a doubt, Lisbon and Algarve rental prices are high compared to the rest of Portugal. But I believe that with a little luck you can find cheap places. The agencies always take advantage so in my opinion it is always good for us to get involved with the community and meet private people which make things easier for us than these agencies that always try to make the most of the money they can from us.
I think Coimbra is a beautiful city. I am afraid the Silver Coast would be too cold for me, it all looks so lovely though. I do not do well with cold and rainy weather. I'm looking at Lisbon/Cascais, I do not like the prices! I thought of the Algarve first but then learned of the packed summers with tourists. I wouldn't like that. And that is why I've settled thus far to go the the Lisbon/Cascais area. Having trouble learning about the various neighbourhoods in the various districts, too. LOL I'm planning to move to Portugal in the next three-four months.I had a scouting trip planned for September 2020 and we all know what happened to that!! Thank you for your insight as well with this post and your post below and to Hygge Journey as well.
@@sbaz2pt1115 hi i just got notified and saw your message,what about Setúbal or the whole Alentejo coast from Setúbal to the Algarve the prices are very affordable and much calmer than the Algarve and Lisbon areas, Alentejo is a very beautiful place, but for me it is too calm for me, but the prices there are very affordable and very good for those looking for peace.
For the allergies, try local (really local from your exact area) honey. Just a couple of teaspoons daily for a couple of the weeks. Directly or dilute in lukewarm water.
Great vid. Being from Portugal ‘old buildings’ generally means 80 years and older (most town center buildings can often be 200, 300 years old). One thing to look out for in such buildings is to make sure that they have concrete floor structure rather than wood. Most ‘old buildings’ that were not fully renovated will have a wooden structure and will have very poor noise insulation... so careful with those :)
The most comprehensive and practical guide to the rental market for foreigners I have come across. The logical presentation eases a bit of the apprehension, and your willingness to admit to points where you are uncertain adds to the feeling of authenticity. So very proud 🇯🇲, and glad to know I won't be the only Yardie in Portugal 🇵🇹 😉
Oh my goodness I think I've found a pair of angels in Portugal. You guys are super helpful. I admire what you're doing. Much love and respect to you both. Dario & Michelle 🇨🇦
Really good video. I’ve watched a number of videos in renting in Portugal and I’m glad I watched anyway. I learned new tips and perspectives I haven’t heard. Thanks.
Thank you! That was also the aim, we tried to pack absolutely everything into it, that we knew at the point of recording. Essentially the video we wished existed :) 👍🙏
Thank you so much for this information. I made numerous notes of it and I love you took the perspective of the locals into account as well. We have a responsibility as expats to not alienate ourselves from the locals.
I found interview with an English woman who lived in various locations in Portugal. Apparently mold +excessive humidity can be a serious problem, depending on the climate/ building code. Older homes, build before 2000, aren't build for keeping humidity out. The channel is "Expats everywhere", clip "The UNTOLD Things About Living in Portugal". Will try to add link in the comment below.
I have been freezing the entire winter since my apartment is not well isolated. This is my 3rd apartment like that. I am starting to believe that most apartments in Portugal are not well built and are very expensive to heat ; that is if they even have a heater in the place ! Not all Portuguese have one.
@@Carolinapetroska heard stories of freezing in the winter, from exchange students from Poland (!). They complained about damp cold in apartments, no heating.
You are so right about the 'fuse constantly goes off' . I have had that terrible experience being in the middle of a shower and suddenly no heat, no hot water and I was freezing cold. I could not put the fuse back on easily and nothing would come back. I could never put more than 2 appliances at the same time. The place was such a nightmare that I had to move out. But unfortunately, you don't see that until after you live in the dam place. I really felt 'screwed'. That's why I had to find another apartment only after 2 months. It was horrible to do that in the middle of the winter time.
Well it's something to look out for. In many cases the power company can give you a higher power-allocation and that might solve it. In some cases the entire home may need rewiring if the fuse board isn't powerful enough for your needs... I.e. when the built the place, maybe the hadn't thought of you wanting dishwasher, A/C, long showers, heating etc. and then it's simply just not prepared for it :-)
Great video, excellent tips! Absolutely love your points at the end about prices and making sure they are in line with the area and not the expat trap of pricing locals out of their own market. Thank you! Great great video!
Your welcome! Yes also to protect the local market when you are coming as an expat. You might be used to a lot higher rent but by the fact of you might try to pay double in some cases of what locals can afford we then price locals out of the market. Which is never good in the long term. Many expat traps to look out for ;-)
Hey Guys, this has to be one of the most informative video that I have watched, power-packed with so much goodness. Thank you so much for all your efforts in sharing this. Not sure why you guys have stopped making video since 6 months ago but I do hope to see more videos coming from this channel. Don't give up and thanks for all the hard work!
Hi Jason, Thank you for your comment. I'm really glad you enjoy our content. We are planning to make more content, but for us UA-cam is just a fun hobby where we share whenever we feel like we got something to share... So we rather put out some videos where we really share everything we can rather than just making content :-) So quite obviously, UA-cam is just fun for us, not work :-) I think there will probably come a good range of new videos before the summer so stay tuned :)
@@HyggeJourney Oh that's great news, will look forward to them. And yeah, enjoying the process of making videos is really important, thank you for taking the time to make them. Cheers :)
Great lists! I’ve been looking through Idealista (and a few others) for the past couple of years and can’t wait to move back permanently, to the Peniche area. Cheers
@@HyggeJourney I enjoy watching you two I have been to Portugal twice actually to Lisbon and I absolutely love it and I would love to retire there one day and I also think that your researches are more realistic than others
@@HyggeJourney on another note I never been to Porto but is there a difference of cost of living in Podto because more and more people are moving to Lisbon
Would you please do a video on using the Virtual Assistant that you spoke of. What they handle for you and how you find them. Thank you! Love your videos.
Awesome tips, thank you. I particularly like the comments about mold and humidity, appears to be a significant factor depending on where you choose as a location.
I also think the building standards just hasn’t been high enough in many cases. It’s not all buildings that are thinking about ventilation so in the cold months I can easily create the mold
@@HyggeJourney Thanks for the reply, I agree with you, installing duct work for heating and ventilation when a building already exists is too costly and make little sense.
Be aware most landlords dont going to accept less than 4 month rents, only a naive one that is enter the market for the first time and dont know the reality of market maybe only that ppl ask only for 2 months. But you can use that in your favor, tell him you pay one year full but he need to make a 20% discount on the rent he asking for. But there are one thing in the favor of (US, Canada or European) normally they ask only for a few months, but if you came from Brazil or Africa ex-colonies without showing that you live in Portugal for several years, they refuse less than sometimes one year of the rent. Because if they flee the country and let the apartment destroyed is going to be a huge loss for the landlord. I know one friend that have a T2 in Lisbon (Estefânia/Arroios) and refuse to listen anyone that dont pay at front at least 9 months. He prefer to let the apartment empty.
Hi Artur, Thank you for contributing further! Yes, we know it's a tough market - but this is also why we try to enforce in the video how important it is to build the relationship. When the agent really likes you and understand the situation, they will pitch better to the landlord - and then more things are possible. I fully get there is some stubborn people in-between - and that you need some have some flexibility when look for a place to live. Thank you for making the efforts! It's appreciated!
Mine wanted 2 months worth of security deposit and now that I have moved out, he is only giving me back 1 month, what can I do ? He is not being honest obviously but I don't want to just forget about it. It's not fair especially that the apartment had plenty of problems.
Thank you! Glad you liked the video. Well, it's in the Lisboa region. We just found a vineyard and literally shoot the video ;-) So it's in one of the areas between St. Cruz and Ericeria I believe :-)
This is probably the best video I have seen about renting since I have been doing my research and now after watching your video I feel more confident in searching for an apartment in Lisbon. My only question is when do you pay for the downpayment for the move in cost to sign the lease? Should I visit Lisbon when I am apartment hunting with enough money to get an apartment to pay the first months rent and security deposit? Or when do they expect you to pay for the move in cost since I plan to sell my car but I’m not sure if I should before I visit Lisbon or after when I’m back in the states to do the D7 visa process. Any tips would be highly appreciated!
We are no visa experts, but yes, you need to pay for the apartment to get it - regardless of your visa status. We have just exactly now released a new video answering the rest of your questions :)
Thank you for a brilliant video, we are flying to Portugal next week to hopefully find somewhere to rent. The rules have changed now and you have to get a 12 month contract to get a D7 visa 😕
True! It’s not that high of a requirement compared to other EU countries there is nearly impossible to get into. :) Also they have to make sure not too many get in and only those who are serious get the visa. So they will probably do more in the future to limit it. It’s what we have seen in many eu countries over the Years. Hope you get well to the country 🇵🇹🇵🇹
Thanks for being so thorough and open about the process. One video I've been looking for online without much clarification is what requirements do portuguese banks want fulfilled to successfully secure a mortgage for residents and non-residents? Maybe this could be a future video if it fits what you're looking to accomplish.
Hi Jason, Thanks for the feedback. We are adding your suggestion to our content plan - and we will see how we can cover this! We haven't yet had a mortgage in Portugal, but I can fully agree about that it's an area that would be good to cover. So I will try to find a way! :-) Thank you for suggestion. It's suggestions like these, that will make the channel in the future :-)
@@tinportugal4655 Can you please develop? Is there some sort of Government plan for this or this is just an observation based on personal or friends recent experience? Cheers.
You have geat videos with lots of information, thanks for all. I always enjoy every bit of it. Pls can you do videos about good areas for families, though maybe outside of Lisbon but not too far away. Also, schools are if possible fees, this will be very good for families that want to relocate especially from UK. Thanks
Ej 1000 tak....håber der er mere lækkert materiale, min søn og jeg overvejer kraftigt at flytte til Portugal. Og er lidt på bar bund med det mere praktiske osv. Så det ger er dælme en guldmine!!!
Hej Alma, Vi har en del her på UA-cam, men ellers tjek www.hyggejourney.com for mere hjælp ;) Vi skriver en del på bloggen også der. Tusind tak for de fine ord.
Lovely Video, very useful information! One question, I suffer badly from hayfever, I wonder how Portugal is in this aspect? Are there better areas? I have tried to find information online but so far no luck! Thank you 🙏🏻
Trial and error :) Mr. Hygge also suffers from that. He mostly manages with some basic allergy pills. It’s not too bad. But again I think it depends on your surroundings of where ever you are going to live.
Thank you both so much, this is such a well-made video! Many of the things you mentioned I had read about already as I'm doing tons of research. Being a Londoner, my partner doesn't feel too comfortable about shovelling proof of income in the landlord's face and I would like to kindly ask you: how did you manage to show evidence without showing too much please? Any examples you could give us in practical terms please? That would be very much appreciated indeed. Thank you again, I've subscribed and turned the bell on to follow you guys!
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it :-) Well, you don't need to be too afraid. In the UK you need to nearly deliver a DNA-sample of information, you just don't see the details of when they are running a credit check on you, employer check etc :-) At the time we were approved, we just literally showed the last 3 months income that went into our bank account, so the landlord could see amount that comes in consistently. I'm not sure the landlord was fully comfortable with it from the beginning, but I just insisted on speaking to her on the phone in the process - and after a couple of minutes see seemed like she was pretty cool with who we were :-)
@@HyggeJourney hello both, thank you so much for your prompt and kind reply! Asking to speak on the phone with the landlord is a great tip, thank you! I come from Southern Europe so I am kind of aware that with these things the more human and personal the contact, the better it can become the turnout of things! Could I please ask you about another sensitive topic, the deposit? As you mentioned there is no safe deposity scheme like in the UK (DPS); therefore would you think that 2 months rent in deposit would be acceptable given a furnished flat please? In a FB group some people were making jokes about "good luck getting your deposit back!". That seems concerning. Thank you, have a lovely day!
@@castalianightwish8751 I think that would really depends on your landlord. I've been lucky and also not in London. I had better experience with private landlords vs big agencies. They have a huge contract terms and make sure to get every bit possible of your deposit lol when you terminate your contract. The google reviews were actually accurate haha. I don't know about Lisbon tho! Good luck.
Fabulous video. Very informative. Im from the Uk and my hubby and i want to retire to Portugal in a few years time. We will need a D7 visa. Could you do a video explaining how much income is required per month for the D7 visa and how much savings we will need to put in a Portuguese bank account. Thank you so much. I look forward to your next video
Hi Jane Thank you for your comment. I’m glad you like it. We haven’t been through a visa process so we don’t personally have any experience of this. However, if we can get hold of an expert we will do an interview 🙏👍 In the meantime, we found the article from a law firm that sets out the requirements quite well www.portuguese-nationality.com/residency/the-d7-visa-portugal
thanks a lot for this video guys, the links are brilliant. I would love to hear what agents/agencies you already curated and in what areas. I am not sure I have seen anything about obtaining a NIF, but having tried to do that this summer, I did not realise the legislation has changed in January as a part of brexit, would appreciate any advice on how to be efficient in getting a new NIF.
I am so happy to have come across you. I realize you are super busy rearing your children but if I need advice are you available if I keep my requests at a minimum? Best wishes ❤
Hi Maria, Thank you for your kind message! I'm glad you are enjoying our videos :-) Actually quite a few has been reaching out to us for some start up assistance - so it's now possible to book a short call with Mr. Hygge if you need it. Feel free to book a call here: calendly.com/jannik/hyggejourney
Great video. Very helpful. Do you have any advice for those wanting to rent with animals? We have 2 cats and will be coming over from the US. How difficult will that be? Thx!
Hey Not too much knowledge. Check the interview we have made about renting in Lisbon on our channel. In that video we touch base on how to approach it with a landlord and you get a real estate agents view on it
Hi I like you both of you and I hope to meet you when I come to Lisbon. I am coming alone from LA. My music is why i am coming and I hope to go to London and do some of my music. I hope to an apartment in or around Lisbon hope you can help.
Hi Marv, I'm sure you will enjoy Lisbon. There is a lot of great people there so it should be easy for you to make friends there when you arrive :-) We can't help you with your apartment, other than you can see our advice in the videos. But you can just try to contact a real estate agent, I'm sure they are happy to assist :-)
Funny, when you said "we always ask about mold", I understood, for a split second, "moles". I guess they might be a problem if you had a garden or a lawn, but usually people are not too worried about them when renting. Language can be funny at times, can't it.
This was great thank you so much for sharing! Would you mind sharing more information for specific schools/locations? That is a big concern for my family as we've got 4 little ones :)
Hi Libia, We are definitely going to cover this subject! We have added it to our content plan - and hope to cover it relatively soon! Many areas has great schools. You can look at Private Portuguese in the area you are considering, then I'm sure you will find something good.
You guys are wonderful. Extremely thorough in information. I am just beginning and will be heading there within a a year. How difficult is it renting with furbabies???
Great video, thank you so much for sharing all sorts of tips and tricks ! How long did it take for you to find a proper rental ? We are hoping to arrive in 3-4 month and are trying to figure out how long we should reserve an Airbnb for the rental hunting period. Looking forward to more videos from you !
Hi Fred, Thank you for your question. We decided to enjoy the first few weeks without looking for a property, more to enjoy the country. After that it took roughly 5 weeks of area research and looking at properties before we found a place we were happy with. If you haven't already, you could take a look at our other video about how we relocated under Covid here: ua-cam.com/video/T8l3z8i6dhw/v-deo.html
It's been for than 1 month before I moved out and the landlord/agency is not giving me my entire deposit back even though I left the apartment in good shape, what can I do ? I feel like I am being taken advantage of.
You are two private people making an agreement. I think probably the best most hands on solution is to first give the key to the apartment, when you have signed an agreement over that you get the full deposit.. And you ask them to make the transfer on the spot before you handover the keys and fully move out. The only other alternative is to take the legal route and taking the person to court.
What a great channel you have - love the content :) We are a couple from Denmark looking for an early retirement in Portugal in about 2 years time. We want to start renting and maybe later on buying. We are planing a trip by car to Portugal this summer. Think it would be a good and flexible way to explorer the different sides in Portugal in a relative short amount of time. We planning around 14 days of holiday in Portugal a have an interest in the North (Porto is on the list), Central, Alentejo and Algarve regions. We would love to hear if you can recommend some cities. We would love near or in short distance to the coast and with activity all year around?
Thank you so much 😊 Great idea to visit Portugal by car. There’s so much to explore and it’s sounds like you’ve got some great plans in mind. If you have time, definitely worth checking out the Silver Coast - Peniche, Óbidos, Caldas da Reina, Nazaré etc. Great coast line and things to do.
Ola, Where in this video link do I find the list of important questions you mentioned for the apartment search. I am moving to Portugal in June and would love to have the questions at the ready when I hire an agent. Thanks!
Very detailed and lots of great info. Thanks! I’m interested in historic buildings that have been renovated in the Lisbon city center. I’m sure those are probably among the priciest places to rent also. Do you know if rents/prices are starting to decrease due to the economic effects of the pandemic?
Hi RM, I'm glad you like the videos. I'm not quite sure of the development, as we sort of landed under the pandemic. So I don't have the full view over how the pricing was prior to Covid. But it really does depends a lot on neighborhoods, size of the flat and so on. But there is many lovely places that we have seen when we were trying to find a place to live. Just give it a go and get to know the city :-)
@@jfprofile What a coincidence. I live in an area called the Arroyo, the Spanish word for Arroio, but in a completely different part of the world. Thanks for the tip! I will look into this.
@@FreeToBe_Me Amazing haha 🥂 Let us know if Arroios (forgot the S earlier) fits your needs. Would be really funny and unique to see you move from the Arroyo to Arroios in Lisbon :)
Glad you like it! Definitely try to negotiate, but also compare it to similar properties on idealista and Casa Sapo so you get an idea of what you should pay 👍
@@HyggeJourney Thanks so much. I'm still in the US waiting to be able to plan a scouting trip. It's so hard to work out where to even look. I'm going to binge watch all of your videos!!
We will definitely try to add a lot more to try to make it easier to understand what the country has to offer. So make sure you are subscribed and hit the bell icon for notifications 🔔 I think you will like the videos we have lined up for May ;-)
You guys are amazing! Thank you so much!! My French husband thinks he knows it all, but I am trying to use your knowledge and experience to educate him!! wink wink
Guys, do you remove comments, or UA-cam does it ? I posted under a comment about mold/ moles, with a link to ppl from another channel , also living in Portugal. They had quite an experience with mold in houses they lived in. Wonder how my comment was removed 🤔
Hi Mirka We have only removed a couple of comments there was clearly spam. Otherwise we don’t remove spam. But a couple of people have mentioned their comment to have been removed. So maybe something has been picked up in UA-cam filter. Please try again :)
@@HyggeJourney thnx for clarification. Maybe YT thinks any link in comments is a spam? Are you OK with links to other YT channels in comments ? It's an interview with a woman who lived in various locations in Portugal, has extensive experience with mold.
Absolutely. Not sure if UA-cam are allergic to links ;) But feel free to post. We would love to bring attention to the problems so we can contribute to a solution with more knowledge:)
Hi Leena, This is really a very difficult question to answer. There is no clear yes/no here. Central Portugal is much cheaper than the usual areas where foreigners move to, so here there is a better chance to find maybe a reasonable priced 2-bedroom flat. Some remote parts of Portugal you can get a 2 bedroom for around €200 / month; www.idealista.pt/en/areas/arrendar-casas/com-t2/?shape=%28%28wuvcFxrb%7D%40s%7CbYw%60zFflMggpKnvmKdfdDzhhHi%60%5DnqaCpuaBobDplaL%29%29&ordem=precos-asc Again, if you have to pay tax of the €900 then that is also some to put into consideration. You should try to make a budget and see if you can work it work. There is a bit more data here: www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Portugal Good luck :-)
Guys, you are ex-Londoners, so you clearly need to have a bit of that ease of getting stuff as you used to right? May i ask where you got your place? Considering Caldas da Rainha or San Martinho myself but still unsure. Curious to know where you found your place. Obrigado :)
São Martinho do Porto is amazing. The beach is so calm very safe for kids, a shell shape beach and a small city very family friend, a lot of cathedrals, castles and history close by.
@@arturjcrebelo3275 Fab'! Many thanks Artur. Really appreciated. Are you saying it would be better to choose Sao Martinho over Caldas then? I like the land options you may have with Caldas, not sure if similar exists with Sao Martinho.
@@jfprofile I never going to tell you what to choose, you are a different person then me. If was me to choose the place maybe São M. Porto was ahead. But even then i prefer living in Baleal (very close place to Caldas and S. M. Porto). You need to go visit yourself and decide who's the best place for you. I live my youngest years in Lamego with my grandmother, but my father come to Portugal in holidays/vacancies (he was working in Switzerland) and pick me and i remember that in 2 weeks i learn to swim there. The water is a lot more hot than the other beaches close by. But if going to own a car, you can live in both places, Caldas da Rainha to São M. Porto is maybe 15 minutes by car? Soz, my english.
@@arturjcrebelo3275 Thank you so much Artur, this is exactly the sort of personal opinion i'm after. Will certainly go and spend some time on both sites to judge by myself as Jannik recommended. On a side note (and Gill said it too when she discussed with that teacher), please DO NOT apologise for your english which is EXCELLENT :) I wish i could write Portuguese like you write English good sir! Hats off.
Hi Artur and Tank, Thanks for both being so friendly in the comment! It makes us so happy that our videos bring people together that helps each other like this!! Tank; It really does depends on what you want. So London is a funny place... It has great public transport, this you won't find if you go as farout as Caldas da Rainha, you will be needing a car more. If you want the busy city, then Calda da Rainha, will probably be too far out for you. But if you want a little buzz, but be at a much more calm place - then both Caldas da Rainha as well as Vau, Obidos and the coast line there, is a very beautiful spot. So it truly does depend on what you want, what you like. It's not directly comparable to the UK and that's also why I in this video suggest to get to the airport, grab a car, go and explore for a few weeks. Fall in love with an area and jump on it :-) Good luck on your journey!
I'm considering relocating in the future to PT, and while I'm not a fan of paying huge expat prices for renting in Lisbon, access to Asian ingredients and groceries is a big deal for me. Do you know if there are other cities with markets like the ones in Lisbon?
@@sander7782 This depends on your passport. EU citizen needs to get CRUE to proof your residents rights. Also SNS for health number. Then if you are employed by Portuguese company they need to apply for a NISS number for you. To get the CRUE you need to get to the Fregasia (local council office) to get your Attesta to proof you live in the council. Here you need to bring proof of where you live, ie. rental contract.
This is the most helpful, comprehensive guide for renting in Portugal I’ve seen or heard in over 18 months gathering info! I can’t thank you enough. The demo on Idealista made it easy and this list of questions to ask is a huge bonus! Thank you so much for generously sharing what you’ve discovered so far on your journey. ✨🙏✨💓
Wow thank you so much for your lovely comment. So happy to hear that it’s useful😊
hi there.
I just wanted to say that as a Portuguese, but who lives in another country, but who knows my country well, I would never choose Lisbon to live. But I know that in time you will discover more about Portugal.
Here are some of the cities I would choose, Peniche, Nazaré, Figueira da Foz, Aveiro all of them are by the sea, Coimbra is a beautiful city, which has the oldest university in Europe much cheaper than Lisbon and is 1 hour from the beach. but as I said before I know in time you will find out more about Portugal and get other better solutions.
In Portugal we have a saying that says Porto works, Coimbra studies and Lisbon spends!
Hi Filipe,
I agree! All expats we spoke to prior moving was always just talking about Algarve, Lisbon and Cascais...
Everything from Ericeira, Santa Cruz and the bits of the Silver Coast we have enjoyed so far, has been a great surprise. There is so much of this country that keep surprising us... Every few km's there is a new hidden gem :-)
Thanks for commenting and adding value :-)
@@HyggeJourney I understand the points of view that you give in relation to job opportunities, as well as working at home with greater visibility in what you do, without a doubt, Lisbon will be the best place for you to continue what you do. But without a doubt, Lisbon and Algarve rental prices are high compared to the rest of Portugal. But I believe that with a little luck you can find cheap places. The agencies always take advantage so in my opinion it is always good for us to get involved with the community and meet private people which make things easier for us than these agencies that always try to make the most of the money they can from us.
What a great description on Porto, Coimbra and Lisbon on life styles, thank you. Very insightful and it makes sense.
I think Coimbra is a beautiful city. I am afraid the Silver Coast would be too cold for me, it all looks so lovely though. I do not do well with cold and rainy weather. I'm looking at Lisbon/Cascais, I do not like the prices! I thought of the Algarve first but then learned of the packed summers with tourists. I wouldn't like that. And that is why I've settled thus far to go the the Lisbon/Cascais area. Having trouble learning about the various neighbourhoods in the various districts, too. LOL I'm planning to move to Portugal in the next three-four months.I had a scouting trip planned for September 2020 and we all know what happened to that!! Thank you for your insight as well with this post and your post below and to Hygge Journey as well.
@@sbaz2pt1115 hi i just got notified and saw your message,what about Setúbal or the whole Alentejo coast from Setúbal to the Algarve the prices are very affordable and much calmer than the Algarve and Lisbon areas, Alentejo is a very beautiful place, but for me it is too calm for me, but the prices there are very affordable and very good for those looking for peace.
For the allergies, try local (really local from your exact area) honey. Just a couple of teaspoons daily for a couple of the weeks. Directly or dilute in lukewarm water.
Great vid. Being from Portugal ‘old buildings’ generally means 80 years and older (most town center buildings can often be 200, 300 years old). One thing to look out for in such buildings is to make sure that they have concrete floor structure rather than wood. Most ‘old buildings’ that were not fully renovated will have a wooden structure and will have very poor noise insulation... so careful with those :)
Thanks so much for your insights! So good to know 😊
The most comprehensive and practical guide to the rental market for foreigners I have come across. The logical presentation eases a bit of the apprehension, and your willingness to admit to points where you are uncertain adds to the feeling of authenticity.
So very proud 🇯🇲, and glad to know I won't be the only Yardie in Portugal 🇵🇹 😉
So glad you enjoyed it! The 2nd part of the guide has just been uploaded ;)
Most in depth video on this topic I've found!
Glad it was helpful! 👍
Thank you, this was indeed very good information for my husband and I. We are planning to move to Portugal in September 2022
Good luck on your move! Glad you enjoyed the video 👍🙏
Oh my goodness I think I've found a pair of angels in Portugal. You guys are super helpful. I admire what you're doing. Much love and respect to you both.
Dario & Michelle 🇨🇦
Such a lovely comment. Thank you both so much🙏🏽😊
Really good video. I’ve watched a number of videos in renting in Portugal and I’m glad I watched anyway. I learned new tips and perspectives I haven’t heard. Thanks.
That’s really wonderful to hear, thanks so much. So happy that you found it useful 😊🙏🏽✨
Thank you for the informative video. It is the most comprehensive overview of renting in Portugal that I have come across.
Thank you! That was also the aim, we tried to pack absolutely everything into it, that we knew at the point of recording.
Essentially the video we wished existed :) 👍🙏
Thank you so much for this information. I made numerous notes of it and I love you took the perspective of the locals into account as well. We have a responsibility as expats to not alienate ourselves from the locals.
Glad it was helpful!
I found interview with an English woman who lived in various locations in Portugal. Apparently mold +excessive humidity can be a serious problem, depending on the climate/ building code. Older homes, build before 2000, aren't build for keeping humidity out.
The channel is "Expats everywhere", clip "The UNTOLD Things About Living in Portugal".
Will try to add link in the comment below.
UA-cam removed the comment including a link !
I have been freezing the entire winter since my apartment is not well isolated. This is my 3rd apartment like that. I am starting to believe that most apartments in Portugal are not well built and are very expensive to heat ; that is if they even have a heater in the place ! Not all Portuguese have one.
@@Carolinapetroska sorry to hear it. What area of Portugal ?
In the center
@@Carolinapetroska heard stories of freezing in the winter, from exchange students from Poland (!). They complained about damp cold in apartments, no heating.
You are so right about the 'fuse constantly goes off' . I have had that terrible experience being in the middle of a shower and suddenly no heat, no hot water and I was freezing cold. I could not put the fuse back on easily and nothing would come back. I could never put more than 2 appliances at the same time. The place was such a nightmare that I had to move out. But unfortunately, you don't see that until after you live in the dam place. I really felt 'screwed'. That's why I had to find another apartment only after 2 months. It was horrible to do that in the middle of the winter time.
Well it's something to look out for. In many cases the power company can give you a higher power-allocation and that might solve it. In some cases the entire home may need rewiring if the fuse board isn't powerful enough for your needs...
I.e. when the built the place, maybe the hadn't thought of you wanting dishwasher, A/C, long showers, heating etc. and then it's simply just not prepared for it :-)
Great video, excellent tips! Absolutely love your points at the end about prices and making sure they are in line with the area and not the expat trap of pricing locals out of their own market. Thank you! Great great video!
Your welcome! Yes also to protect the local market when you are coming as an expat. You might be used to a lot higher rent but by the fact of you might try to pay double in some cases of what locals can afford we then price locals out of the market. Which is never good in the long term.
Many expat traps to look out for ;-)
This is SO HELPFUL!!! Thank you!
You're so welcome! 🙌
thank for all the infos
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey Guys, this has to be one of the most informative video that I have watched, power-packed with so much goodness. Thank you so much for all your efforts in sharing this. Not sure why you guys have stopped making video since 6 months ago but I do hope to see more videos coming from this channel. Don't give up and thanks for all the hard work!
Hi Jason,
Thank you for your comment. I'm really glad you enjoy our content.
We are planning to make more content, but for us UA-cam is just a fun hobby where we share whenever we feel like we got something to share... So we rather put out some videos where we really share everything we can rather than just making content :-)
So quite obviously, UA-cam is just fun for us, not work :-)
I think there will probably come a good range of new videos before the summer so stay tuned :)
@@HyggeJourney Oh that's great news, will look forward to them. And yeah, enjoying the process of making videos is really important, thank you for taking the time to make them. Cheers :)
@@jasoncai We surely enjoy it. But currently I also have a 80+ hour work week with other projects ;-) And we won't forget to enjoy Portugal :-)
Great lists! I’ve been looking through Idealista (and a few others) for the past couple of years and can’t wait to move back permanently, to the Peniche area. Cheers
So happy that you found it useful! Peniche is beautiful 🤩
Hello from Boston I admire you both and I will keep your lovely family in my prayers. God bless you both !
Glad you like it!! Thank you so much 🙏🏽
@@HyggeJourney I enjoy watching you two I have been to Portugal twice actually to Lisbon and I absolutely love it and I would love to retire there one day and I also think that your researches are more realistic than others
@@HyggeJourney on another note I never been to Porto but is there a difference of cost of living in Podto because more and more people are moving to Lisbon
That’s very kind of you to say. Thanks so much 😊
Would you please do a video on using the Virtual Assistant that you spoke of. What they handle for you and how you find them. Thank you! Love your videos.
Even though I have done heaps of research this was super helpful, thank you
Glad you like it! Yes we try to be very honest and cover as much as possible 🙏
Extraordinary continent with bonus info through out the video! Great strategies! Thanks for sharing!
Awesome tips, thank you. I particularly like the comments about mold and humidity, appears to be a significant factor depending on where you choose as a location.
I also think the building standards just hasn’t been high enough in many cases. It’s not all buildings that are thinking about ventilation so in the cold months I can easily create the mold
@@HyggeJourney Thanks for the reply, I agree with you, installing duct work for heating and ventilation when a building already exists is too costly and make little sense.
Be aware most landlords dont going to accept less than 4 month rents, only a naive one that is enter the market for the first time and dont know the reality of market maybe only that ppl ask only for 2 months. But you can use that in your favor, tell him you pay one year full but he need to make a 20% discount on the rent he asking for.
But there are one thing in the favor of (US, Canada or European) normally they ask only for a few months, but if you came from Brazil or Africa ex-colonies without showing that you live in Portugal for several years, they refuse less than sometimes one year of the rent. Because if they flee the country and let the apartment destroyed is going to be a huge loss for the landlord.
I know one friend that have a T2 in Lisbon (Estefânia/Arroios) and refuse to listen anyone that dont pay at front at least 9 months. He prefer to let the apartment empty.
Hi Artur,
Thank you for contributing further!
Yes, we know it's a tough market - but this is also why we try to enforce in the video how important it is to build the relationship. When the agent really likes you and understand the situation, they will pitch better to the landlord - and then more things are possible.
I fully get there is some stubborn people in-between - and that you need some have some flexibility when look for a place to live.
Thank you for making the efforts! It's appreciated!
Mine wanted 2 months worth of security deposit and now that I have moved out, he is only giving me back 1 month, what can I do ? He is not being honest obviously but I don't want to just forget about it. It's not fair especially that the apartment had plenty of problems.
I've enjoyed your videos, looking forward for what you will be talking about in the future.
Thank you so much. We are happy that you enjoy them 😊
What a thorough video. Thank you for this. We learned so much and can’t wait for more of your videos. The tips on using idealista were fantastic.
Thank you! Glad you found it useful 🙏
hi thanks for the info! where is this area behind you? its gorgeous!
Thank you! Glad you liked the video.
Well, it's in the Lisboa region. We just found a vineyard and literally shoot the video ;-)
So it's in one of the areas between St. Cruz and Ericeria I believe :-)
Excellent video, very helpful. Thank you for making it!
Glad it helped you :)
This is probably the best video I have seen about renting since I have been doing my research and now after watching your video I feel more confident in searching for an apartment in Lisbon. My only question is when do you pay for the downpayment for the move in cost to sign the lease? Should I visit Lisbon when I am apartment hunting with enough money to get an apartment to pay the first months rent and security deposit? Or when do they expect you to pay for the move in cost since I plan to sell my car but I’m not sure if I should before I visit Lisbon or after when I’m back in the states to do the D7 visa process. Any tips would be highly appreciated!
We are no visa experts, but yes, you need to pay for the apartment to get it - regardless of your visa status.
We have just exactly now released a new video answering the rest of your questions :)
Thank you for a brilliant video, we are flying to Portugal next week to hopefully find somewhere to rent. The rules have changed now and you have to get a 12 month contract to get a D7 visa 😕
True!
It’s not that high of a requirement compared to other EU countries there is nearly impossible to get into. :)
Also they have to make sure not too many get in and only those who are serious get the visa. So they will probably do more in the future to limit it.
It’s what we have seen in many eu countries over the Years.
Hope you get well to the country 🇵🇹🇵🇹
You guys are so amazing! Most helpful video ever! Thank you ☺️
🙏 thank you. I’m glad you got
Something out of it :)
Thanks for being so thorough and open about the process. One video I've been looking for online without much clarification is what requirements do portuguese banks want fulfilled to successfully secure a mortgage for residents and non-residents? Maybe this could be a future video if it fits what you're looking to accomplish.
Hi Jason,
Thanks for the feedback. We are adding your suggestion to our content plan - and we will see how we can cover this! We haven't yet had a mortgage in Portugal, but I can fully agree about that it's an area that would be good to cover. So I will try to find a way! :-)
Thank you for suggestion. It's suggestions like these, that will make the channel in the future :-)
It is my impression that Portugal is trying to attract immigrants that don't need a morgage to finance their home.
@@tinportugal4655 Can you please develop? Is there some sort of Government plan for this or this is just an observation based on personal or friends recent experience? Cheers.
AMAZING content, thank you for your time!
So glad you enjoyed it 👍
Loved your videos..we shall be over as soon as Boris opens the door :)
Thank you so much. Hopefully soon 🙏🏽
thank you so much for sharing all sorts of tips and tricks
You are very welcome Marck!
We are trying to make it easier for any new arrivals here ;-)
You have geat videos with lots of information, thanks for all. I always enjoy every bit of it. Pls can you do videos about good areas for families, though maybe outside of Lisbon but not too far away. Also, schools are if possible fees, this will be very good for families that want to relocate especially from UK. Thanks
Thank you so much. We are definitely going to cover areas outside of Lisbon and schools soon 😊
Ej 1000 tak....håber der er mere lækkert materiale, min søn og jeg overvejer kraftigt at flytte til Portugal. Og er lidt på bar bund med det mere praktiske osv. Så det ger er dælme en guldmine!!!
Hej Alma,
Vi har en del her på UA-cam, men ellers tjek www.hyggejourney.com for mere hjælp ;) Vi skriver en del på bloggen også der.
Tusind tak for de fine ord.
Lovely Video, very useful information! One question, I suffer badly from hayfever, I wonder how Portugal is in this aspect? Are there better areas? I have tried to find information online but so far no luck!
Thank you 🙏🏻
Trial and error :) Mr. Hygge also suffers from that. He mostly manages with some basic allergy pills. It’s not too bad.
But again I think it depends on your surroundings of where ever you are going to live.
Thank you both so much, this is such a well-made video! Many of the things you mentioned I had read about already as I'm doing tons of research. Being a Londoner, my partner doesn't feel too comfortable about shovelling proof of income in the landlord's face and I would like to kindly ask you: how did you manage to show evidence without showing too much please? Any examples you could give us in practical terms please? That would be very much appreciated indeed. Thank you again, I've subscribed and turned the bell on to follow you guys!
Thank you. I'm glad you liked it :-)
Well, you don't need to be too afraid. In the UK you need to nearly deliver a DNA-sample of information, you just don't see the details of when they are running a credit check on you, employer check etc :-)
At the time we were approved, we just literally showed the last 3 months income that went into our bank account, so the landlord could see amount that comes in consistently. I'm not sure the landlord was fully comfortable with it from the beginning, but I just insisted on speaking to her on the phone in the process - and after a couple of minutes see seemed like she was pretty cool with who we were :-)
@@HyggeJourney hello both, thank you so much for your prompt and kind reply!
Asking to speak on the phone with the landlord is a great tip, thank you! I come from Southern Europe so I am kind of aware that with these things the more human and personal the contact, the better it can become the turnout of things!
Could I please ask you about another sensitive topic, the deposit? As you mentioned there is no safe deposity scheme like in the UK (DPS); therefore would you think that 2 months rent in deposit would be acceptable given a furnished flat please? In a FB group some people were making jokes about "good luck getting your deposit back!". That seems concerning.
Thank you, have a lovely day!
@@castalianightwish8751 I think that would really depends on your landlord. I've been lucky and also not in London. I had better experience with private landlords vs big agencies. They have a huge contract terms and make sure to get every bit possible of your deposit lol when you terminate your contract. The google reviews were actually accurate haha. I don't know about Lisbon tho! Good luck.
Fabulous video. Very informative. Im from the Uk and my hubby and i want to retire to Portugal in a few years time. We will need a D7 visa. Could you do a video explaining how much income is required per month for the D7 visa and how much savings we will need to put in a Portuguese bank account. Thank you so much. I look forward to your next video
Hi Jane
Thank you for your comment. I’m glad you like it.
We haven’t been through a visa process so we don’t personally have any experience of this.
However, if we can get hold of an expert we will do an interview 🙏👍 In the meantime, we found the article from a law firm that sets out the requirements quite well www.portuguese-nationality.com/residency/the-d7-visa-portugal
Found the links! Thanks again.😎👍
Thank you! This was a lot of information! 👏🏾
Glad it was helpful! Stay tuned, we will focus on more property videos over the next month.
thanks a lot for this video guys, the links are brilliant.
I would love to hear what agents/agencies you already curated and in what areas.
I am not sure I have seen anything about obtaining a NIF, but having tried to do that this summer, I did not realise the legislation has changed in January as a part of brexit, would appreciate any advice on how to be efficient in getting a new NIF.
I am so happy to have come across you. I realize you are super busy rearing your children but if I need advice are you available if I keep my requests at a minimum? Best wishes ❤
Hi Maria,
Thank you for your kind message! I'm glad you are enjoying our videos :-)
Actually quite a few has been reaching out to us for some start up assistance - so it's now possible to book a short call with Mr. Hygge if you need it. Feel free to book a call here: calendly.com/jannik/hyggejourney
@@HyggeJourney how kind! I like the way you present as a team in giving information. Well done! Honestly, best wishes!
🙏 thank you! We appreciate the kind words 🤩
@@HyggeJourney I will book in the near future. Thank you so much 💓
Thank you both for this valuable information.😊🙏🏾
Found this incredibly helpful--thanks!!
Great video. Very helpful. Do you have any advice for those wanting to rent with animals? We have 2 cats and will be coming over from the US. How difficult will that be? Thx!
Hey
Not too much knowledge. Check the interview we have made about renting in Lisbon on our channel. In that video we touch base on how to approach it with a landlord and you get a real estate agents view on it
Hi I like you both of you and I hope to meet you when I come to Lisbon. I am coming alone from LA. My music is why i am coming and I hope to go to London and do some of my music. I hope to an apartment in or around Lisbon hope you can help.
Hi Marv,
I'm sure you will enjoy Lisbon. There is a lot of great people there so it should be easy for you to make friends there when you arrive :-) We can't help you with your apartment, other than you can see our advice in the videos. But you can just try to contact a real estate agent, I'm sure they are happy to assist :-)
Thank you for the info, very useful! For a short stay like 3 weeks in Portugal, which website do you suggest to look?
There is only really airbnb and booking.com
Fantastic video, thank you for this useful information.
Glad you like it 👍
Funny, when you said "we always ask about mold", I understood, for a split second, "moles". I guess they might be a problem if you had a garden or a lawn, but usually people are not too worried about them when renting. Language can be funny at times, can't it.
Hahaha! Fab! We haven't yet found many houses with moles... ;-) Yes, languages and misunderstandings can certainly cause a laugh! :-)
Amazing info ! Thank you so much ☺️ for sharing all of your experiences. So clear and detailed. Liked and Saved ✅ 😊
Very helpful information! Muito Obrigado🙏🏽
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
This was great thank you so much for sharing! Would you mind sharing more information for specific schools/locations? That is a big concern for my family as we've got 4 little ones :)
What type of schools? Private (Portuguese or international) or public?
Hi Libia,
We are definitely going to cover this subject! We have added it to our content plan - and hope to cover it relatively soon!
Many areas has great schools. You can look at Private Portuguese in the area you are considering, then I'm sure you will find something good.
You guys are wonderful. Extremely thorough in information. I am just beginning and will be heading there within a a year. How difficult is it renting with furbabies???
Thank you 🙏
Great video, thank you so much for sharing all sorts of tips and tricks ! How long did it take for you to find a proper rental ? We are hoping to arrive in 3-4 month and are trying to figure out how long we should reserve an Airbnb for the rental hunting period. Looking forward to more videos from you !
Hi Fred,
Thank you for your question. We decided to enjoy the first few weeks without looking for a property, more to enjoy the country. After that it took roughly 5 weeks of area research and looking at properties before we found a place we were happy with. If you haven't already, you could take a look at our other video about how we relocated under Covid here: ua-cam.com/video/T8l3z8i6dhw/v-deo.html
It's been for than 1 month before I moved out and the landlord/agency is not giving me my entire deposit back even though I left the apartment in good shape, what can I do ? I feel like I am being taken advantage of.
You are two private people making an agreement. I think probably the best most hands on solution is to first give the key to the apartment, when you have signed an agreement over that you get the full deposit.. And you ask them to make the transfer on the spot before you handover the keys and fully move out.
The only other alternative is to take the legal route and taking the person to court.
Awesome content every time x
I'm glad you are enjoying! More is coming soon 👍
What a great channel you have - love the content :)
We are a couple from Denmark looking for an early retirement in Portugal in about 2 years time. We want to start renting and maybe later on buying.
We are planing a trip by car to Portugal this summer. Think it would be a good and flexible way to explorer the different sides in Portugal in a relative short amount of time.
We planning around 14 days of holiday in Portugal a have an interest in the North (Porto is on the list), Central, Alentejo and Algarve regions. We would love to hear if you can recommend some cities. We would love near or in short distance to the coast and with activity all year around?
Thank you so much 😊
Great idea to visit Portugal by car. There’s so much to explore and it’s sounds like you’ve got some great plans in mind. If you have time, definitely worth checking out the Silver Coast - Peniche, Óbidos, Caldas da Reina, Nazaré etc. Great coast line and things to do.
@@HyggeJourney thanks a lot. We will definitely keep those in mind :-)
Ola, Where in this video link do I find the list of important questions you mentioned for the apartment search. I am moving to Portugal in June and would love to have the questions at the ready when I hire an agent. Thanks!
I just wrote them down as they mentioned them; had to rewind a couple times, but no big deal.
Great video and I am a new subscriber.Keep up the good work.🙏🏽❤️
Thank you so much 🙏🏽
Renting/buying with pets(small dogs) ???
Hi Mary
We are soon publishing a video about renting to follow up on our first. There it’s covered. So stay tuned ;-) It’s usually not a problem.
Very detailed and lots of great info. Thanks!
I’m interested in historic buildings that have been renovated in the Lisbon city center. I’m sure those are probably among the priciest places to rent also. Do you know if rents/prices are starting to decrease due to the economic effects of the pandemic?
Hi RM,
I'm glad you like the videos.
I'm not quite sure of the development, as we sort of landed under the pandemic. So I don't have the full view over how the pricing was prior to Covid.
But it really does depends a lot on neighborhoods, size of the flat and so on. But there is many lovely places that we have seen when we were trying to find a place to live.
Just give it a go and get to know the city :-)
Heard that Arroio neighbourhood in Lisbon was really good and quite affordable...and was named the coolest place to live in the world (not joking)
@@jfprofile What a coincidence. I live in an area called the Arroyo, the Spanish word for Arroio, but in a completely different part of the world. Thanks for the tip! I will look into this.
@@FreeToBe_Me Amazing haha 🥂 Let us know if Arroios (forgot the S earlier) fits your needs. Would be really funny and unique to see you move from the Arroyo to Arroios in Lisbon :)
Love the list doc.
Glad you can use it!! :-)
Great video. Thanks for all of the info. Do you find that the prices in Idealista are good or should one try to negotiate down?
Glad you like it! Definitely try to negotiate, but also compare it to similar properties on idealista and Casa Sapo so you get an idea of what you should pay 👍
@@HyggeJourney Thanks so much. I'm still in the US waiting to be able to plan a scouting trip. It's so hard to work out where to even look. I'm going to binge watch all of your videos!!
We will definitely try to add a lot more to try to make it easier to understand what the country has to offer. So make sure you are subscribed and hit the bell icon for notifications 🔔
I think you will like the videos we have lined up for May ;-)
@@HyggeJourney I subscribed. Thanks!! looking forward to seeing the others.
You guys are amazing! Thank you so much!! My French husband thinks he knows it all, but I am trying to use your knowledge and experience to educate him!! wink wink
haha Tamara, apologies for this. Us french peeps tend to show off way too much at times :) And another great vid Hygge fam'!
Lol! Really just a joke and clearly I love French people!!! 😁
Haha! Don't you think it's just a man thing? ;-) I'm sure Gill will say the same about me :-) Glad you are enjoying it!!
Wish you a happy life! :)
That’s nice, thank you 😊
Guys, do you remove comments, or UA-cam does it ?
I posted under a comment about mold/ moles, with a link to ppl from another channel , also living in Portugal.
They had quite an experience with mold in houses they lived in.
Wonder how my comment was removed 🤔
Hi Mirka
We have only removed a couple of comments there was clearly spam. Otherwise we don’t remove spam. But a couple of people have mentioned their comment to have been removed. So maybe something has been picked up in UA-cam filter. Please try again :)
@@HyggeJourney thnx for clarification. Maybe YT thinks any link in comments is a spam?
Are you OK with links to other YT channels in comments ?
It's an interview with a woman who lived in various locations in Portugal, has extensive experience with mold.
Absolutely. Not sure if UA-cam are allergic to links ;)
But feel free to post. We would love to bring attention to the problems so we can contribute to a solution with more knowledge:)
@@HyggeJourney thnx. Will try in the evening PST.
Can a family with 2 member survive in Portugal in 900euro monthly salary?? Pls give me an idea
Hi Leena,
This is really a very difficult question to answer. There is no clear yes/no here.
Central Portugal is much cheaper than the usual areas where foreigners move to, so here there is a better chance to find maybe a reasonable priced 2-bedroom flat.
Some remote parts of Portugal you can get a 2 bedroom for around €200 / month; www.idealista.pt/en/areas/arrendar-casas/com-t2/?shape=%28%28wuvcFxrb%7D%40s%7CbYw%60zFflMggpKnvmKdfdDzhhHi%60%5DnqaCpuaBobDplaL%29%29&ordem=precos-asc
Again, if you have to pay tax of the €900 then that is also some to put into consideration.
You should try to make a budget and see if you can work it work. There is a bit more data here: www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_result.jsp?country=Portugal
Good luck :-)
Great video and very interesting.
Glad you enjoyed it!! :-)
Guys, you are ex-Londoners, so you clearly need to have a bit of that ease of getting stuff as you used to right? May i ask where you got your place? Considering Caldas da Rainha or San Martinho myself but still unsure. Curious to know where you found your place. Obrigado :)
São Martinho do Porto is amazing. The beach is so calm very safe for kids, a shell shape beach and a small city very family friend, a lot of cathedrals, castles and history close by.
@@arturjcrebelo3275 Fab'! Many thanks Artur. Really appreciated. Are you saying it would be better to choose Sao Martinho over Caldas then? I like the land options you may have with Caldas, not sure if similar exists with Sao Martinho.
@@jfprofile I never going to tell you what to choose, you are a different person then me. If was me to choose the place maybe São M. Porto was ahead. But even then i prefer living in Baleal (very close place to Caldas and S. M. Porto). You need to go visit yourself and decide who's the best place for you.
I live my youngest years in Lamego with my grandmother, but my father come to Portugal in holidays/vacancies (he was working in Switzerland) and pick me and i remember that in 2 weeks i learn to swim there. The water is a lot more hot than the other beaches close by. But if going to own a car, you can live in both places, Caldas da Rainha to São M. Porto is maybe 15 minutes by car?
Soz, my english.
@@arturjcrebelo3275 Thank you so much Artur, this is exactly the sort of personal opinion i'm after. Will certainly go and spend some time on both sites to judge by myself as Jannik recommended. On a side note (and Gill said it too when she discussed with that teacher), please DO NOT apologise for your english which is EXCELLENT :) I wish i could write Portuguese like you write English good sir! Hats off.
Hi Artur and Tank,
Thanks for both being so friendly in the comment! It makes us so happy that our videos bring people together that helps each other like this!!
Tank; It really does depends on what you want. So London is a funny place... It has great public transport, this you won't find if you go as farout as Caldas da Rainha, you will be needing a car more.
If you want the busy city, then Calda da Rainha, will probably be too far out for you.
But if you want a little buzz, but be at a much more calm place - then both Caldas da Rainha as well as Vau, Obidos and the coast line there, is a very beautiful spot.
So it truly does depend on what you want, what you like. It's not directly comparable to the UK and that's also why I in this video suggest to get to the airport, grab a car, go and explore for a few weeks. Fall in love with an area and jump on it :-)
Good luck on your journey!
I'm considering relocating in the future to PT, and while I'm not a fan of paying huge expat prices for renting in Lisbon, access to Asian ingredients and groceries is a big deal for me. Do you know if there are other cities with markets like the ones in Lisbon?
Very informative.
Thank you 😊
do you need an niff number if you are european?
Everyone needs a NIF… for everything that is… internet, tax, insurance etc
NIF is your tax number. Almost everything is tied up on that.
@@HyggeJourney what more do we need to be able to live there?
@@sander7782 This depends on your passport. EU citizen needs to get CRUE to proof your residents rights.
Also SNS for health number.
Then if you are employed by Portuguese company they need to apply for a NISS number for you.
To get the CRUE you need to get to the Fregasia (local council office) to get your Attesta to proof you live in the council. Here you need to bring proof of where you live, ie. rental contract.
Thank you
Glad you like it