I just streamed this end to end. I went to two design schools for my Bachelor and Master and none of them brought any value to my design skill as much as this video just did. The most helpful lecture on design I've been. Made me realise how junior on design I am. Also none of my lecturer so far was a real designer that've been working in the industry, so none of them have real-life experience like Chris. Thanks a lot. I wholeheartedly appreciate what you guys are doing - sharing lots of your decade-long of experience. Really enjoying your train of thought. I've learned a lot.
While watching this, I learn this: try, fail, learn. I try WAY too less. But it's all about trying. Just try. Move this there. Move that there. No matter if it looks perfect after one or two moves. It's all about trying and failing and learning from that. Thanks for taking your time to teach us!
10:00 I highly suggest for anyone who hasn't been exposed to the Gestalt Principles of perceptual organization to learn more about it. They are used in design all over the place, and especially in typography and UI design.
very awesome - even for people who already have a good grasp on the fundamentals, there are so many interesting ideas that come out of seeing someone else's thought process on fixing/finessing layouts and content relationships etc.
I really think drawing flour plans in Exel is a bit off, but doing it with illustrator looks pretty on purpose. Architect's point of view. Thank you Futur academy for this one, hearing critiques of designs is always a great source of precious knowledge. I love the metaphor of the page as a real space, I fully agree. And the reverse is true, we often use the word legibility to qualify space. From a french speaking person. Have a nice day everyone.
I remember doing this in university, I think it’s called Typescape. Also try doing this landscape, I feel it’s more difficult. Great job as usual Chris and futur team
Thank you very much. I've learned a lot from your Typo Critique video. I watched Week 2 first and instantly improved at work =))) Looking forward to these episodes since then
16:00 I agree that the uneven spacing spoiled the continuity and readability of the paragraph, but now the credits are completely cut off the composition, unlike before when just a tiny bit of them was.
Not a good answer to the question about justification at 19:07; it doesn't work well for relatively few characters per line, but for 70 or so characters per line and long text (like in in a book), it is easier to get a good justified setting than a good rag, if you pay attention to justification and hyphenation parameters. In this case, using a fixed space between the names (say Rosmarie Tissi would make more sense, and wouldn't leave people like Dorfsman off the page.
I love this tutorial so much and I would like to practice by myself at home, but I'm not sure the dimension of the artboard, would you be so kind to tell me?
Do print it out. And give it to people. They will not appreciate all the negative space. They will ask why would you not make it easier to read when you have so much space to make the text larger.
In terms of just magazines, doesn't the masthead need to be "above the fold"? Above the fold means it will show or peak out when on a rack with other magazines in front of it, or on the top fold of a newspaper in a coin-operated newspaper dispenser. While we no longer purchase magazines in stands anymore or in brick and mortar bookstores, magazines are still sold that way. I would think you could only get away from having a magazine masthead after many years of readers getting used to it. I realize this is a typography class, so designing a magazine is just an exercise, so it doesn't matter in the same way as a real magazine.
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Hey Mr. Chris! I'm sorry to asking this, I was wondering, what size that template artboard is? Because I want to try and practice along with watching this critique hahaha. Unfortunately I'm still at college and I don't have enough money to enroll the course so I guess this is the alternative to studying the critique :D Thank you!
I understand you try to make a point... but most of the time what you end up with after playing with the designs, you end up with something far worse than the original submitted. I think that's why.
Not going to lie, this video is really good but at the same time super super disappointing! I feel like this video is worth more than the whole typography course that I have spent a lot of money on...
Meh. I didn’t get much from watching this. I think I need more context. So, is this a course for typography for art sake, usability sake or both? It felt more like typography for art’s sake and I didn’t find much practical usage in it. I can’t believe that students were supposed to make 10 versions of this. Why not just make one really good one instead? If students are making mistakes then the instruction isn’t clear enough to make accurate reproductions. I’m still lost on how to handle this text appropriately after watching this. Yes, I see what doesn’t work, but what is the best technique for getting it right every time. I certainly don’t want to make 10 designs for a client. I want to learn how to get it right the first time.
Well I would say if you don't learn how to fail, you will have difficulties to know how to make a good design that solve a particular problem, because IMO problem solving is a process you learn while processing it, including mistakes. How would you recognize a mistake if you don't make/see one? How would you know it doesn't work? Of course it's not the same for everyone, depending on how your brain/mind/hand/eyes work. And of course this is not the only way to learn type I guess. Anyway I hope I you understand what I mean. Cheers
He’s asking for 10 because it allows you to try a lot of different things, and provides an opportunity to learn as you find unique challenges within each design. Also to get some good practice in, which helps you improve. I don’t think Chris is saying make 10 designs for a client necessarily, this is a fun exercise for students to get better at typography, experiment and push boundaries. I found it immensely helpful. With a client, depending on their guidelines, you might not be able to set type so ‘artistically’, but the fundamentals you learn here apply whether you’re creating a bank brochure or an abstract art gallery exhibit poster.
@@francoismahr - I hear you. I just didn't get the context for taking in the content. I wasn't trying to be rude. I know that there isn't ONE single way to handle type, but I thought there would be more on what makes type good, and it was more about what doesn't work. I see that the critique was great for those in the class. I just didn't get much from it. As such, I was left thinking, why put this up if it doesn't provide that much value or context to those outside of the class. Anyway. Much respect.
@@solvm1652 hello, I get your point, no problem, it's just that I keep on disagreeing with you, I don't think the video is about what doesn't work, it's also how it could work fixing things, and I think our host is trying to show ways of doing it. Anyway thanks for your answer. I don't think there is an absolute rule that makes good or bad design, there is even a book that argue comic sans can be used in a professional manner. To my point of view Type and furthermore Design is about problem solving. May be see you in the next Type video to argue some more 😂. Stay safe. Bye
"If you can design one thing, you could design everything." That really open up my mind!
Massimo Vignelli (RIP) said that
I just streamed this end to end. I went to two design schools for my Bachelor and Master and none of them brought any value to my design skill as much as this video just did. The most helpful lecture on design I've been. Made me realise how junior on design I am. Also none of my lecturer so far was a real designer that've been working in the industry, so none of them have real-life experience like Chris. Thanks a lot. I wholeheartedly appreciate what you guys are doing - sharing lots of your decade-long of experience. Really enjoying your train of thought. I've learned a lot.
One more question, can I get the critique if I enroll the course this week?
Same here!
You have no idea how much these lessons have helped me in recent times.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you!
The Jan/Feb overlapping (1:14:40) was marvelous! Thank you Chris
I Disagree with 1:24:27 that original layout is better than when Chris started moving things around.
YES! The original was so much better
While watching this, I learn this: try, fail, learn.
I try WAY too less. But it's all about trying. Just try. Move this there. Move that there.
No matter if it looks perfect after one or two moves. It's all about trying and failing and learning from that.
Thanks for taking your time to teach us!
The concept of imagining it as an exhibit really hit home for me. Im learning so many things from this, thank you so much!
As a Trucker life continues the same for me. Diving into your video. Hmm, Pick one thing will be challenging for me but I am up for it.
10:00 I highly suggest for anyone who hasn't been exposed to the Gestalt Principles of perceptual organization to learn more about it. They are used in design all over the place, and especially in typography and UI design.
very awesome - even for people who already have a good grasp on the fundamentals, there are so many interesting ideas that come out of seeing someone else's thought process on fixing/finessing layouts and content relationships etc.
35:28 when you get caught using illegal fonts in public and you can only laugh it off
Oh my god lmao
LMAO
I'm kinda confused. What's illegal about it?
@@emanuelegirlanda2000 She hadn't paid for it. e.g. it was a pirated copy, and she even offered to share the link to the copy 😅
@@EriksFriberg thanks! I was confused because I thought helvetica was one of those free open source fonts but boy was I wrong lol
Even as an experienced designer its useful to be reminded of the basic principles again. Great video 👍
Everything I learn from design has been through critiques like these. This reminds me of those days when Emily and Molly was still there
i'm a little late here, just wonder where are they??
That was a witty approach right there using dashes _ _ _ _ _ _ Nice
Amazing ! Always appreciate your generous sharing of knowledge !
This was SO freaking interesting! Thanks for making this quarantine period more bearable ❤
Glad to hear Alex.
There is a limit to the brain explosions I can handle per episode, Chris! This episode caused far too many!
Haha
Hey are you a Designer?
@@Yougetwhatyoudeserve95 Hi, yes I am.
I really think drawing flour plans in Exel is a bit off, but doing it with illustrator looks pretty on purpose. Architect's point of view. Thank you Futur academy for this one, hearing critiques of designs is always a great source of precious knowledge. I love the metaphor of the page as a real space, I fully agree. And the reverse is true, we often use the word legibility to qualify space. From a french speaking person. Have a nice day everyone.
I remember doing this in university, I think it’s called Typescape. Also try doing this landscape, I feel it’s more difficult. Great job as usual Chris and futur team
Cool! I was going to research about typography and found this fresh video all by chance. What a nice coincidence :)))
Damn, i learned a lot in one and a half hour!
Your voice calms me down while working. Great stuff!
sameeeeeee
That fibonacci grid is pure gold.
Thank you so much sir for making this typography series . 👍
Thank you very much. I've learned a lot from your Typo Critique video. I watched Week 2 first and instantly improved at work =))) Looking forward to these episodes since then
Glad to hear.
Appreciate the crit Chris, thank you!
Thanks Tony. See you next week.
Thanks Tony
16:00 I agree that the uneven spacing spoiled the continuity and readability of the paragraph, but now the credits are completely cut off the composition, unlike before when just a tiny bit of them was.
Maybe it is rather a theoretical tip and not a conceptual one, just pointed out the issue...
Very interesting and well-taught!
Great lesson! Thanks for sharing your wisdom, sir!
You’re very welcome
Life begins beyond the defaults. Got it I see the light :)
I wish the default settings were 8 pt. and light vs. regular.
I learned so much
Thanks Guys!
Finally it's back
we back.
Not a good answer to the question about justification at 19:07; it doesn't work well for relatively few characters per line, but for 70 or so characters per line and long text (like in in a book), it is easier to get a good justified setting than a good rag, if you pay attention to justification and hyphenation parameters. In this case, using a fixed space between the names (say Rosmarie Tissi would make more sense, and wouldn't leave people like Dorfsman off the page.
Thanks a lot sir! This is the best class for me.
I wish I bought the course earlier, so I could join this live critique. AMAZING!
this is tooo good to be free
and yet it is.
this video introduced me to so many different concepts and methods thank you team futur
Thank you Chris! you are a great teacher :)
Great tutorial.
in this wide space will be a photo. Its good layout!
Chris is chill af in this episode. U ok hun?
haha. off day. I'll bring the fire next time.
I love this tutorial so much and I would like to practice by myself at home, but I'm not sure the dimension of the artboard, would you be so kind to tell me?
49:54 How Chris wants you to ask your questions.
ALL the TIME. FOREVER FAST!
I see Chris with the TM-2's, I got some because of Matthew Encina.
got it! thanks
Isn't 8 pt type too small to read? Should we sacrifice legibility for a better design?
it's not. try it. print it out.
Do print it out. And give it to people. They will not appreciate all the negative space. They will ask why would you not make it easier to read when you have so much space to make the text larger.
Thank you!
Thankyou Do ❤️
Guys, your "recommended products and Booklist" link doesn't work ;( Very curious to know what books you recommend to read.
Looking into this.
This is like iron chef for designers
35:29 I’ll send you the link LOL
In terms of just magazines, doesn't the masthead need to be "above the fold"? Above the fold means it will show or peak out when on a rack with other magazines in front of it, or on the top fold of a newspaper in a coin-operated newspaper dispenser. While we no longer purchase magazines in stands anymore or in brick and mortar bookstores, magazines are still sold that way. I would think you could only get away from having a magazine masthead after many years of readers getting used to it. I realize this is a typography class, so designing a magazine is just an exercise, so it doesn't matter in the same way as a real magazine.
you are correct.
Is there any free Typefaces for commercial use !
Thank you!!!
Thank you so much 😊
Hey, where can i get the copy used in these projects?
Hey Chris, Hope you are doing great, I have little confusion about using text? either clock-wise or antilock-wise?
37:22 It resembles a gun shooting an 8 bullet.
when he did that overlaping thing of january/february i ran out of breath
This video call and screenshare has been made possible by Zoom, it can also be found somewhere else on the internet just like every other Zoom video call because of our terrible security.
Yours truly,
Zoom's development team
?
@@TheFuturAcademy just google 'Zoom' and you'll find its security flaws, its most likely even above the actual Zoom website
I’m aware of them.
@@TheFuturAcademy but you guys still used it in yesterdays stream
They make the video public anyway 🤷♀️ It's not like they are discussing national security there.
How do i submit my work for critique?
Enroll in the class.
Could you please provide me the link for enrollment.
How can I participate in these assignments?
Enroll in the course.
57:00 it really annoys me how ''Piet Zwart'' isn't in the other group of type
Hey Mr. Chris! I'm sorry to asking this, I was wondering, what size that template artboard is? Because I want to try and practice along with watching this critique hahaha. Unfortunately I'm still at college and I don't have enough money to enroll the course so I guess this is the alternative to studying the critique :D
Thank you!
Based on what I've seen. I would not pay for this course
what are you seeing? I'm curious. I also invite you to come back week 7 to see what jumps happen and how much each person grows.
I understand you try to make a point... but most of the time what you end up with after playing with the designs, you end up with something far worse than the original submitted. I think that's why.
I'm an IT student learning software development but love typography and art.... really confused should I continue {art || programming.....}😁
Go Mo!
"I'll send you the link" HAHAHHAHAHA
Left justified should be called Flush Left. Justified means even on both sides.
Great
1:13:31
50:21
Why do some people have a problem with ''justify right'' expression so Chris is always using an alternative ?
Chris is the Jordan Peterson of Graphic design. ⭐
♥
The cover of this video makes me so uncomfortable, someone please change it.
Why?
I hope this video will be translated into Japanese…..
Man, Do looks like a 'Do'll in the thumbnail 😁
Not going to lie, this video is really good but at the same time super super disappointing! I feel like this video is worth more than the whole typography course that I have spent a lot of money on...
hey Fred. have you rewatched the entire course? we've recorded new content, critiques and even the self critique in greater detail.
@@TheFuturAcademy Indeed, still very dissapointed
Meh. I didn’t get much from watching this. I think I need more context. So, is this a course for typography for art sake, usability sake or both? It felt more like typography for art’s sake and I didn’t find much practical usage in it. I can’t believe that students were supposed to make 10 versions of this. Why not just make one really good one instead? If students are making mistakes then the instruction isn’t clear enough to make accurate reproductions. I’m still lost on how to handle this text appropriately after watching this. Yes, I see what doesn’t work, but what is the best technique for getting it right every time. I certainly don’t want to make 10 designs for a client. I want to learn how to get it right the first time.
Well I would say if you don't learn how to fail, you will have difficulties to know how to make a good design that solve a particular problem, because IMO problem solving is a process you learn while processing it, including mistakes. How would you recognize a mistake if you don't make/see one? How would you know it doesn't work? Of course it's not the same for everyone, depending on how your brain/mind/hand/eyes work. And of course this is not the only way to learn type I guess. Anyway I hope I you understand what I mean. Cheers
He’s asking for 10 because it allows you to try a lot of different things, and provides an opportunity to learn as you find unique challenges within each design. Also to get some good practice in, which helps you improve. I don’t think Chris is saying make 10 designs for a client necessarily, this is a fun exercise for students to get better at typography, experiment and push boundaries. I found it immensely helpful. With a client, depending on their guidelines, you might not be able to set type so ‘artistically’, but the fundamentals you learn here apply whether you’re creating a bank brochure or an abstract art gallery exhibit poster.
@@francoismahr - I hear you. I just didn't get the context for taking in the content. I wasn't trying to be rude. I know that there isn't ONE single way to handle type, but I thought there would be more on what makes type good, and it was more about what doesn't work. I see that the critique was great for those in the class. I just didn't get much from it. As such, I was left thinking, why put this up if it doesn't provide that much value or context to those outside of the class. Anyway. Much respect.
@@solvm1652 hello, I get your point, no problem, it's just that I keep on disagreeing with you, I don't think the video is about what doesn't work, it's also how it could work fixing things, and I think our host is trying to show ways of doing it. Anyway thanks for your answer. I don't think there is an absolute rule that makes good or bad design, there is even a book that argue comic sans can be used in a professional manner. To my point of view Type and furthermore Design is about problem solving. May be see you in the next Type video to argue some more 😂. Stay safe. Bye
@@francoismahr - much respect
Zoom is evil btw. Don't use it.
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