One of the main reasons magic was outlawed in the Roman Empire is that the government did not not want private citizens having access to divination about the state (Ammianus describes a series of treasons trials of aristocrats who attended a seance where the question as asked, 'who will be the next Emperor?'--they were all put to death). I would imagine he same logic would prevail generally, including in ancient Israel.
All about the authorities maintaining power and control, eh? Sounds ‘bout right. Really sad thing is, people actually believe it’s divine mandate (especially after generations and generations of conditioning).
One of the coolest things I learned that blew my mind the most when I started getting into Biblical studies was the fact that Samuel was called "elohim"
Because death ancestors are perceived as ruling and guardian spirits in any culture that honours the ancestors. The term elohim is used for rulers as well.
@@user-om3pl9jh5k The fact that elohim is used for gods, spirits, and rulers is interesting because it calls into question what the views of the people were towards their rulers. After all, they believed that each nation had a patron god ruling over them.
@@blksmagma well, no one really knows the original meaning of elohim. Any work on these area is highly speculative. However, I grew up in culture which a higher honour the ancestors, much as the surrounding cultures. I see these words evolved in my lifetime. To give you an example, it usually starts with a word like "boss", which can refer to both any type of leader or anyone with great skill. Due to lack of clarity it evolves over time to refer to one specific thing. You Westerners overthink. Deities turned to start from single to multiple, but language goes from ambiguous to specialised. I see a lot of BS from academics in this area it is almost comical. 😂 Western way of thinking is that of a troubled mind, most other cultures don't think like you. Most of the things we believe in are not easily translatable.
In my mother's culture speaking to dead people is such a strict taboo that even uttering the name of someone who is deceased is forbidden. Same goes for displaying any images of deceased people. They believe a soul can't move on if you keep saying their name or showing their image. I am not religious at all, but even I won't tell you the name of my maternal grandmother.
I know a woman from South Africa that was raised with this taboo. She converted to another religion (Mormon) because she didn't like this taboo and wanted to be able to commemorate and openly talk about her deceased loved ones.
@@Sven-jx6uv she's Indigenous Australian. If you've ever watched an Australian TV show or movie that features Aboriginal people, it might have a disclaimer at the start, warning that there might be images and names of deceased Aboriginal people.
@BradyPostma we can talk about people who are deceased, but we might refer to them by their job they had, or "X's mother". We just can't say their names. I can't bring myself to get rid of photos, but they are locked in a box that is in a place that is difficult to reach.
@@angelawossname - She liked to go to headstones of her loved ones and have one-sided conversations with them. Her culture told her that was necromancy and forbidden. Mormonism doesn't have that taboo, and does have a long tradition of the deceased returning to talk to the living (the Angel Moroni is a good example). I only know her because a friend of a friend went on his mission to South Africa and, years after that mission, married the daughter of the woman I'm describing. When the daughter brought her mom to Utah to meet all her American friends, I got to meet her and hear her story. I'm still friends with the daughter and her husband on Facebook, watching their kids get too grown up too fast and occasionally sharing their memes about race and tolerance. I'd love to ghostwrite the daughter's life story. She has had such an amazing life!
Are you sure of that? I thought it was Yoda on endor. McClellan seems a little lost here. He's correct in some sense that contacting the dead was a common practice but it certainly wasn't sanctioned via any means in ancient Israel and the Torah forbids it. This passage with Samuel 3:43
(2/2) is the ONLY passage in the Bible that even suggests it's effective and it's still disapproved of. It's hard to avoid the view that McClellan is deliberately misleading his audience.
@@stephenglasse9756 I genuinely do not think he is and my comment was meant purely as a joke. I’m a big fan of Dan’s work and I find him to be about as academically rigorous as can be expected. I’m of the opinion that if anyone has knowledge to the contrary in any field, conduct research, allow peer review, and publish the findings.
@@brettandersson3206 oh obviously your comment about the witch king was a joke and I assume you understand that mine about Yoda was too. You don't need published papers though. That's just an excuse for believing educated liars. Anyone can find out in an extremely short time period what the Bible says about contacting the dead. The facts are It's forbidden (Leviticus 19: 31) It's ineffective (Isaiah 8:19) It's dangerous (Samuel) Note that McClellan claimed 'its basically ok so long as through the right channels '. But no where is it said to be ok via ANY channel and it's clearly disapproved of in Samuel and it's outright forbidden in the Torah (Leviticus 19:31; 20:6; Deut 18:9). It's therefore impossible to avoid the view that McClellan is irresponsible at best.
@@brettandersson3206you're partially right. A cousin of the king of Gondor had been secretly working with the Witch King & used a spell inherited from Morgoth in executing the witch at Endor. I won't divulge more details - so I don't get plagiarised by the writers of Rings Power who are still constructing their script for season 4😂
She is a necromancer. And a necromancer practice witchcraft whether they like it or not. There only three ways to see the dead in those kind of cultures: (1) they want you to see them (2) you are seer, in this case you absolutely not in control of who and when you see, (3) or you are a necromancer. A medium is a necromancer. All forms of necromancy requires witchcraft.
Well of course Necromancers are different from Sorcerers. Necromancers use Intelligence to cast spells cuz they studied magic like burned out college kids while Sorcerers have charisma because they're magical nepo babies!
@@PrecariousPorcupineand then you have magicians like me, who can pull their thumb off right before your eyes! I also capture noses and can produce a quarter from behind your ear, so watch out!
Interesting that Endora calls up the shade of Samuel, not by calling on demons or anything, but just by using a magical process, that simply works; this also shows that modern concepts of "Heaven" didn't exist; surely Samuel, of all people, is as righteous as they come, yet she isn't pulling him from Heaven, but from down in the Underworld where all the other dead are, both good AND evil. I still don't get why God built these magical processes into Reality, if he didn't want them to be used, tho.
Thank you for covering this. I love the books of Samuel and find situations like this one fascinating. At the same time, I always found it strange how Adonai answer Balaam's call in a similar fashion (using a different medium such as divination). Thinking that ancient people saw the deceased as potential deities makes the passage of cutting and tattooing yourself for the dead have a bit more context with this in mind as well. I appreciate the shared insights!
Lovecraft was borrowing a lot of his depictions of elder god cults and worship from ancient Sumerian and Babylonian beliefs and practice as they were understood a century ago, so it's understandable.
Not wrong as in it doesn’t work. Wrong as in morally wrong, because the Torah expressly forbids any use of Ov or Yid`oni in Lev 19:31 and again in Deut 18:11.
Didn't make the Star Wars connect on first glance--but I certainly get it. But I am much more used to the person in question being referred to as "The Witch of Endor"--from the several paintings of the subject, esp. American artists like Benjamin West, Washington Allston or William Sidney Mount Interesting and good to know that "necromancer" is the better term.
Do you think this reflects an older Canaanite/Judean tradition, or is the work of a Hellenized Jewish author bringing in Homeric tropes of Odysseus raising the prophet in Hades by use of Circe's ritualistic blood offering to the dead? Maybe the En Dor story reflects a mix of both traditions? Having a Sheol full of the conscious dead is a concept I think that only also appears in Isaiah 14 when the kings of the Earth greet Nebuchadnezzar as he's cast into the underworld -- which itself might be drawing partly from a Homeric scene of Zeus threatening to cast rebellious gods below Hades into Tartarus (mentioned in The Illiad).
Well yeah, none of that stuff (necromancy, magic, etc.) is said to have been fake, but prohibited. Also, I heard that the necromancer mistook what she saw as gods. I don’t think she’d be religiously Jewish just because she lives in the land of Israel, so she could’ve been part of a polytheistic culture. That stuff has a couple layers to it, it’s not necessarily one-size-fits all exegesis
Dan, at :22 you say that the woman is "*literally*" a "mistress of ghosts." The *literal* translation for what she is is "bottle mistress" or "mistress of the bottle." If it's understood that this bottle was used for divination, then by extension she could be called a mistress of "ghosts."
I would think she was more of a medium if she spoke to the dead. If she actually raised the dead that would make her a necromancer. If she were Japanese and spoke to cats, she would be a Nekomancer.
Is Samuel referred to as Elohim because he’s a dead prophet? Or are all deified dead referred to that way? I thought deified dead were called Rephaim in biblical tradition. Or do I misunderstand what Rephaim are?
Does it explain why Saul outlawed it? Or was it just brought up as a barrier for him to overcome to get the info he wanted? Interesting that he banned it, but his troops are comfortable going "oh yeah there's this person who can help you out, she's great. no... we don't use her services at all, that's against the law... ... ... what?"
Jen! Love your stuff! Any chance of getting audio versions of these? I most often listen to podcast while driving or hiking, and having audio versions would be awesome!
So, if I understand correctly, Saul was defeated on Endor because he failed to destroy the Imperial base and thus couldn't disable the energy shield around the Death Star. Right?
Yes, that’s exactly what it means. The Bible consistently portrays Saul as a good guy who always meant well but had some serious flaws. He hated David, but David loved him and remained as loyal to him as he could.
She shifted from Lord of the Rings world. Saul , quite unfortunate. It is simple. The medium has to be through God's own and the end has to be for God. Worse, demons take hold of such means. No substitutes.
Early medieval peasants often believed their priests were summoning demons regularly, reasoning that if they could command demons to stop possessing people via exorcism, they must be able to command them to do other things, like fetch their slippers.
@@digitaljanus in related ancestry, summoning and commanding demonic entities from rivers and forests was prevalent in my native home. So Demons have been walking with mankind for a while now, a discernment is required.
@@digitaljanusso naive. Anyone who's had practical experience with demons would know they just get into your crawl space and fight with local wildlife. You can tell when someone's been summoning demons because there's garbage all over their yard, they love to get into the stuff.
@@lhvinny It's not a pronunciation, it's an entirely separate word that means 'lord'. Vocalization of Yahweh's name was or became taboo. The Masoretes are said to have added the niqqud from the word adonai (or elohim) to the word Yahweh in the text, cementing the idea that the word 'adonai' should be vocalized in place of 'Yahweh' when reading the text. Dan is just catering to the subset of people who still abide by this superstition.
I always find it funny when people talk about things they don't understand. Necromancy is an active process that always requires witchcraft, it doesn't matter the culture you are in. You are confusing it with seer which a passive. A seer is not in control.
Yeah lol! Poor Isaac Newton poor GALILEO poor Prof John Lennox etc. and your scoffing is justified as well because we all know that people NEVER go to consult mediums in the hope of getting knowledge about future events
@@jasonsmall5602 could have been . She didn't make any prediction that many others couldn't have made. There's also that strange account elsewhere in the OT where a spirit says "I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of the prophets" so can we be sure that isn't the case here?
May I ask a question about the Holy Trinity? You know we can’t explain the Holy Trinity, but we also can’t explain God either. So I guess God doesn’t exist either, right? There are many things in the Bible that weren’t stated directly that we follow. Denominations, the belief of Hell, etc. But on that side note, can I still believe in the Holy Trinity? I mean, there is evidence for it but also against it. But most of the evidence against it has been debunked so idk. You are a Mormon or LDS or whatever so you don’t believe this stuff but I do. People in the Bible did call Jesus “Lord” I believe. Idk though.
People of a certain age might remember that in the '60s sitcom Bewitched, the mother's name was Endora.
Oh, well spotted!
I kept thinking about Ewoks. 😆 Nicely done!
Both are wow moments. When I was a kid, I used to love the show Bewitched, but for some reason, I didn't like Ewoks.
@@SteveSmith-os5bs Nobody liked Ewoks, for plenty of reasons.
Yeah...if Adonai has turned His back on Saul, that should have been the only clue he needed not to go into battle!
"Mistress of Ghosts" is the name of my next doom metal album.
Doom metal? Got any content I can check out?
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@@nedsantos1415 I'll take that as a "no."
Not at all. I just find it amusing. Nothing offensive.
@@nedsantos1415 No offense taken. Thought you were serious. No worries.
Anyone else thinking of the Ewok who wears the animal skull on their head form "Return of the Jedi"?
Yep!
Yes 👍 it's an obvious reference! 😂
Yub-Yub!
@@johnburn8031 Not sure if it's obvious unless you have a degree in Hebrew studies and Star Wars haha
_reads title..._
Wait, Ewoks had necromancers?
I'm glad I'm not the only one who immediately thought of Ewoks!
Beat me to it. Have the like
How do you think they won?
One of the main reasons magic was outlawed in the Roman Empire is that the government did not not want private citizens having access to divination about the state (Ammianus describes a series of treasons trials of aristocrats who attended a seance where the question as asked, 'who will be the next Emperor?'--they were all put to death). I would imagine he same logic would prevail generally, including in ancient Israel.
All about the authorities maintaining power and control, eh? Sounds ‘bout right.
Really sad thing is, people actually believe it’s divine mandate (especially after generations and generations of conditioning).
One of the coolest things I learned that blew my mind the most when I started getting into Biblical studies was the fact that Samuel was called "elohim"
Because death ancestors are perceived as ruling and guardian spirits in any culture that honours the ancestors. The term elohim is used for rulers as well.
@@user-om3pl9jh5k
The fact that elohim is used for gods, spirits, and rulers is interesting because it calls into question what the views of the people were towards their rulers.
After all, they believed that each nation had a patron god ruling over them.
@@blksmagma well, no one really knows the original meaning of elohim. Any work on these area is highly speculative. However, I grew up in culture which a higher honour the ancestors, much as the surrounding cultures. I see these words evolved in my lifetime. To give you an example, it usually starts with a word like "boss", which can refer to both any type of leader or anyone with great skill. Due to lack of clarity it evolves over time to refer to one specific thing. You Westerners overthink. Deities turned to start from single to multiple, but language goes from ambiguous to specialised. I see a lot of BS from academics in this area it is almost comical. 😂 Western way of thinking is that of a troubled mind, most other cultures don't think like you. Most of the things we believe in are not easily translatable.
I love how Saul goes to her just to have her place a collect call.
This is it! 😂
I thought it was the Ewoks of En-Dor.
Turn left at Cal-dor.
In my mother's culture speaking to dead people is such a strict taboo that even uttering the name of someone who is deceased is forbidden. Same goes for displaying any images of deceased people. They believe a soul can't move on if you keep saying their name or showing their image. I am not religious at all, but even I won't tell you the name of my maternal grandmother.
I've never heard of this. What culture is your mother from ?
I know a woman from South Africa that was raised with this taboo. She converted to another religion (Mormon) because she didn't like this taboo and wanted to be able to commemorate and openly talk about her deceased loved ones.
@@Sven-jx6uv she's Indigenous Australian. If you've ever watched an Australian TV show or movie that features Aboriginal people, it might have a disclaimer at the start, warning that there might be images and names of deceased Aboriginal people.
@BradyPostma we can talk about people who are deceased, but we might refer to them by their job they had, or "X's mother". We just can't say their names. I can't bring myself to get rid of photos, but they are locked in a box that is in a place that is difficult to reach.
@@angelawossname - She liked to go to headstones of her loved ones and have one-sided conversations with them. Her culture told her that was necromancy and forbidden. Mormonism doesn't have that taboo, and does have a long tradition of the deceased returning to talk to the living (the Angel Moroni is a good example).
I only know her because a friend of a friend went on his mission to South Africa and, years after that mission, married the daughter of the woman I'm describing. When the daughter brought her mom to Utah to meet all her American friends, I got to meet her and hear her story.
I'm still friends with the daughter and her husband on Facebook, watching their kids get too grown up too fast and occasionally sharing their memes about race and tolerance.
I'd love to ghostwrite the daughter's life story. She has had such an amazing life!
The Forrest moon of En-Dor?
Those damned Ewoks where up to no good! I KNEW IT! 😂
@hoabinh555 They are a dodgy bunch of furballs
Ladies and gentlemen of the supposed jury, this does not make sense
@@RaytheonTechnologies_Officialthanks for posting this. You reminded me that I was missing Matlock!
Inhabited by E-Woks.
The lack of Star Wars and Ewok references in this is disappointing.
This is a common misconception, Dan. The necromancer of En-Dor was, of course, ultimately killed by the Lord of the Nazgûl, the Witch King of Angmar
Are you sure of that? I thought it was Yoda on endor.
McClellan seems a little lost here. He's correct in some sense that contacting the dead was a common practice but it certainly wasn't sanctioned via any means in ancient Israel and the Torah forbids it. This passage with Samuel 3:43
(2/2) is the ONLY passage in the Bible that even suggests it's effective and it's still disapproved of. It's hard to avoid the view that McClellan is deliberately misleading his audience.
@@stephenglasse9756 I genuinely do not think he is and my comment was meant purely as a joke. I’m a big fan of Dan’s work and I find him to be about as academically rigorous as can be expected. I’m of the opinion that if anyone has knowledge to the contrary in any field, conduct research, allow peer review, and publish the findings.
@@brettandersson3206 oh obviously your comment about the witch king was a joke and I assume you understand that mine about Yoda was too.
You don't need published papers though. That's just an excuse for believing educated liars. Anyone can find out in an extremely short time period what the Bible says about contacting the dead. The facts are
It's forbidden (Leviticus 19: 31)
It's ineffective (Isaiah 8:19)
It's dangerous (Samuel)
Note that McClellan claimed 'its basically ok so long as through the right channels '. But no where is it said to be ok via ANY channel and it's clearly disapproved of in Samuel and it's outright forbidden in the Torah (Leviticus 19:31; 20:6; Deut 18:9). It's therefore impossible to avoid the view that McClellan is irresponsible at best.
@@brettandersson3206you're partially right. A cousin of the king of Gondor had been secretly working with the Witch King & used a spell inherited from Morgoth in executing the witch at Endor.
I won't divulge more details - so I don't get plagiarised by the writers of Rings Power who are still constructing their script for season 4😂
She’s not so much a witch or necromancer as she is an Ewok.
She can be two things. Don't put her in a box.
@@bskec2177 then what am I supposed to do with this Ewok sized necromancer box?
She is a necromancer. And a necromancer practice witchcraft whether they like it or not. There only three ways to see the dead in those kind of cultures: (1) they want you to see them (2) you are seer, in this case you absolutely not in control of who and when you see, (3) or you are a necromancer. A medium is a necromancer. All forms of necromancy requires witchcraft.
@@RaytheonTechnologies_OfficialCheck for ewoks?
@@MrDalisclockno, I know you're gonna steal my wallet while I'm checking for Ewoks. This isn't my first rodeo.
Well of course Necromancers are different from Sorcerers. Necromancers use Intelligence to cast spells cuz they studied magic like burned out college kids while Sorcerers have charisma because they're magical nepo babies!
A sorcerer can be a necromancer too, with an undead bloodline.
And then you have warlocks that sell their souls to a devil for magic, also charisma based 😂
@@PrecariousPorcupineWarlocks were necromancer in medieval time
@@PrecariousPorcupineand then you have magicians like me, who can pull their thumb off right before your eyes! I also capture noses and can produce a quarter from behind your ear, so watch out!
@@AMoniqueOcampo Bards are also charisma based, but they usually use their lyrical magic to bed everything in sight
Why aren't you wearing a Star Wars shirt for this? Missed opportunity! 😂
Interesting that Endora calls up the shade of Samuel, not by calling on demons or anything, but just by using a magical process, that simply works; this also shows that modern concepts of "Heaven" didn't exist; surely Samuel, of all people, is as righteous as they come, yet she isn't pulling him from Heaven, but from down in the Underworld where all the other dead are, both good AND evil.
I still don't get why God built these magical processes into Reality, if he didn't want them to be used, tho.
God didn't like that Saul outsourced the job to Endor. God believes in creating Israelite jobs for Israelites.
@@digitaljanusso Yahweh is Ewokphobic?
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Adonai also answered Balaam via divination. I always found that strange but very interesting.
Rules for thee, but not for me.
The Witch of Endor? 🤔
Maybe Saul should have gotten the Ewoks to help him! 😂
Fascinating !
Did the necromancer also find deceased Ewoks or Amiral Akbar who would be there by chance ? 🙏
Thank you for covering this. I love the books of Samuel and find situations like this one fascinating. At the same time, I always found it strange how Adonai answer Balaam's call in a similar fashion (using a different medium such as divination). Thinking that ancient people saw the deceased as potential deities makes the passage of cutting and tattooing yourself for the dead have a bit more context with this in mind as well. I appreciate the shared insights!
The Ewoks had necromancers?😂
I often hear people say there is no afterlife in Judaism, but then I wonder where the necromanced dead prophet came from.
Technically there's a afterlife in Judaism. But it's most like the Greek Hades or the Mesopotamiam Kur.
I had a sailboat called the Witch of Endor. No hyphen thought.
Necromancers are cool. Just healers with bad timing.
I just saw Endor and was looking forward to hearing about Ewoks. Oh well.
More importantly, why are Biblical scholars trying to hide the existence of Ewoks?
Diviners and Necromancers were big in Mesopotamia. All the same things were going on in Israel if you read between the lines
Necromancer? Cool.
Older instances of religions were more Lovecraftian … Mass in Latin, no eye contact, and a 3-faced figure, tricephalous trinity.
Lovecraft was borrowing a lot of his depictions of elder god cults and worship from ancient Sumerian and Babylonian beliefs and practice as they were understood a century ago, so it's understandable.
Thank you, Dan. 😉
Doesn't seem like it was the wrong medium since it worked.
Not wrong as in it doesn’t work. Wrong as in morally wrong, because the Torah expressly forbids any use of Ov or Yid`oni in Lev 19:31 and again in Deut 18:11.
Didn't make the Star Wars connect on first glance--but I certainly get it. But I am much more used to the person in question being referred to as "The Witch of Endor"--from the several paintings of the subject, esp. American artists like Benjamin West, Washington Allston or William Sidney Mount Interesting and good to know that "necromancer" is the better term.
Do you think this reflects an older Canaanite/Judean tradition, or is the work of a Hellenized Jewish author bringing in Homeric tropes of Odysseus raising the prophet in Hades by use of Circe's ritualistic blood offering to the dead? Maybe the En Dor story reflects a mix of both traditions?
Having a Sheol full of the conscious dead is a concept I think that only also appears in Isaiah 14 when the kings of the Earth greet Nebuchadnezzar as he's cast into the underworld -- which itself might be drawing partly from a Homeric scene of Zeus threatening to cast rebellious gods below Hades into Tartarus (mentioned in The Illiad).
It’s Sauron, he’s recovering his strength before continuing his conquest of Middle-Earth.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ thanks Dan!!!
But the more important question is, was she an Ewok or not?
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Not gonna lie, thought this was a deep dive into Return of the Jedi. ❤
Well yeah, none of that stuff (necromancy, magic, etc.) is said to have been fake, but prohibited. Also, I heard that the necromancer mistook what she saw as gods. I don’t think she’d be religiously Jewish just because she lives in the land of Israel, so she could’ve been part of a polytheistic culture. That stuff has a couple layers to it, it’s not necessarily one-size-fits all exegesis
She's a very small bear
Dan, at :22 you say that the woman is "*literally*" a "mistress of ghosts." The *literal* translation for what she is is "bottle mistress" or "mistress of the bottle." If it's understood that this bottle was used for divination, then by extension she could be called a mistress of "ghosts."
Bad I was thinking of the witch Charal from Ewoks II: Battle of Endor?
I would think she was more of a medium if she spoke to the dead. If she actually raised the dead that would make her a necromancer. If she were Japanese and spoke to cats, she would be a Nekomancer.
The original meaning of necromancy was speaking with the dead.
The idea that they raised the dead came latter.
Lmao. That's a good joke.
@@slaplapdogbut could they actually do it?
@@slaplapdog Exactly. The -mancer part gives that away.
0:01-0:04 sargon ll, elpenor, deuteronomy, and stuff.
Is Samuel referred to as Elohim because he’s a dead prophet? Or are all deified dead referred to that way?
I thought deified dead were called Rephaim in biblical tradition. Or do I misunderstand what Rephaim are?
How many people just reading the video title will think this video is about Star Wars?
Blasphemy, there are only Ewoks on Endor.
But how big were the snakes in that region? And where was Conan? 😂
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Does it explain why Saul outlawed it? Or was it just brought up as a barrier for him to overcome to get the info he wanted?
Interesting that he banned it, but his troops are comfortable going "oh yeah there's this person who can help you out, she's great. no... we don't use her services at all, that's against the law... ... ... what?"
Jen! Love your stuff! Any chance of getting audio versions of these? I most often listen to podcast while driving or hiking, and having audio versions would be awesome!
That's a book i'd like to have. But115$ cad?
How can you speak of Endor and not wear a Star Wars Return of Jedi tee?
0:52, wait, God was on TikTok?
Not much man, what's up with you?
nice. 😆
But what would a necromancer be doing on Endor? It just doesn't make sense.
I thought endor was a forrest moon😅
I'm level 120 Necromancy in RuneScape.
Disappointed the fit was not from Star Wars
That would have been cool. Missed opportunity, Dan!
How do they know her dress size 😊
I think you meant “Jedi”
So, if I understand correctly, Saul was defeated on Endor because he failed to destroy the Imperial base and thus couldn't disable the energy shield around the Death Star. Right?
Ugh... you are so cool
Does this mean Saul is going to heaven to be with Samuel?
Yes, that’s exactly what it means. The Bible consistently portrays Saul as a good guy who always meant well but had some serious flaws. He hated David, but David loved him and remained as loyal to him as he could.
Buddha
She shifted from Lord of the Rings world.
Saul , quite unfortunate.
It is simple. The medium has to be through God's own and the end has to be for God.
Worse, demons take hold of such means.
No substitutes.
Early medieval peasants often believed their priests were summoning demons regularly, reasoning that if they could command demons to stop possessing people via exorcism, they must be able to command them to do other things, like fetch their slippers.
@@digitaljanus in related ancestry, summoning and commanding demonic entities from rivers and forests was prevalent in my native home. So Demons have been walking with mankind for a while now, a discernment is required.
@@digitaljanusso naive. Anyone who's had practical experience with demons would know they just get into your crawl space and fight with local wildlife. You can tell when someone's been summoning demons because there's garbage all over their yard, they love to get into the stuff.
@@digitaljanusWhat that does to the concept of incubi and succubi is making my storytelling brain churn with ideas.
Dan’s kinda reading his Mormonism into the text here. Elohim can refer to any preternatural entity, not just YHWH.
.:.
Here come the nerds who think they're clever with predictable, cringe ewok jokes.
The Breaking Bad openings are right there...
Is there an alternative spelling Andorre that has a different meaning in french ?
Dan,
Do you have a video that explains the pronunciation of YHWH that you use?
He’s mentioned it before, he’s pandering to the superstitious.
@@WS-dd8ow I am sure he has mentioned it before. I am curious about the origins of that particular pronunciation.
@@lhvinny Of adonai?
@@WS-dd8ow Yes, that particular pronunciation choice.
@@lhvinny It's not a pronunciation, it's an entirely separate word that means 'lord'. Vocalization of Yahweh's name was or became taboo. The Masoretes are said to have added the niqqud from the word adonai (or elohim) to the word Yahweh in the text, cementing the idea that the word 'adonai' should be vocalized in place of 'Yahweh' when reading the text. Dan is just catering to the subset of people who still abide by this superstition.
I always find it funny when people talk about things they don't understand. Necromancy is an active process that always requires witchcraft, it doesn't matter the culture you are in. You are confusing it with seer which a passive. A seer is not in control.
People who think these stories happened and aren't pure fiction are so silly lol
Yeah lol! Poor Isaac Newton poor GALILEO poor Prof John Lennox etc. and your scoffing is justified as well because we all know that people NEVER go to consult mediums in the hope of getting knowledge about future events
Perhaps it did happen, but like modern mediums, she was scamming him.
@@jasonsmall5602 could have been . She didn't make any prediction that many others couldn't have made.
There's also that strange account elsewhere in the OT where a spirit says "I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of the prophets" so can we be sure that isn't the case here?
May I ask a question about the Holy Trinity? You know we can’t explain the Holy Trinity, but we also can’t explain God either. So I guess God doesn’t exist either, right?
There are many things in the Bible that weren’t stated directly that we follow. Denominations, the belief of Hell, etc.
But on that side note, can I still believe in the Holy Trinity? I mean, there is evidence for it but also against it. But most of the evidence against it has been debunked so idk.
You are a Mormon or LDS or whatever so you don’t believe this stuff but I do. People in the Bible did call Jesus “Lord” I believe. Idk though.
Bro, you can believe anything you want, nothing is stopping you.