What the Hell is going on with XDefiant?
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- Опубліковано 24 бер 2024
- So XDefiant is still not out yet and people are starting to wonder why lol
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I said it a few weeks ago...that whole "AMAZING communication" and "open transparency" was nothing but a marketing technique to gain the support of those players who felt abandoned by Call of Duty Devs and it worked.
Not for long tho since those fools are going back to CoD or other games at this point. Not really a marketing scheme, more like propaganda pushing as well but the notes to fund Saud propaganda is running dry lately
@@Derivedwhale45propaganda is also a marketing technique. it’s trying to sell something like a war or a game
If the leak is true, then it looks like the devs were happy communicating, but then Ubisoft got more involved and made them work on chasing trends which obviously wouldn’t be a good excuse to tell fans. I’m also aware they switched to Linux or something in the past few months which could be the whole restructuring thing mentioned
Are they just going to spam us with “no news as of yet” everyday then?
Facts, Mark Rubin is a failure POS
Xdefiant gonna be XDeficient for ubisoft at this state LOL
I snorted
I dunno, it'll still outperform Skull and Bones
Not hard as a free 2 play game. But you need to have a constant flow of players and influx of money especially with their "planned content roadmap" when they want to keep that up. And CoD players are known to shout "We want another company make a CoD game" same for the BF players. And when someone makes it they play it for 2 weeks and just go back to their respective games aka BF or CoD. @@hawkshot867
@@hawkshot867 dude. its not even gonna release lmao
@KayhoticGames Yeah, I'm aware lol
I completely forgot this was even a game, and I played the Open Beta....... lol
The Beta was fun man. Still looking forward to it, but lost interest for sure.
Lmao same here
Still waiting for any Information about Division Heartland
Radio silence from Ubisoft on a lot of stuff
I dunno Fry, this is Ubisoft we're talking about. You underestimate the depths of their incompetence.
yea pretty funny how breakpoint had to be completely rebuilt based on fan feedback. They basically made two games with that, only thing that had polish from the start was the animations. By the time they were done people moved on and forgot about it. It's a good game now! too late.
@SpeedyMckeezy ehhh good is a stretch still imo. It's still a pretty shallow gameplay experience and it's frustrating on realism mode because of enemy spawns and how empty and repetitive the sandbox is.
That said, though, they did turn it around and the dev team deserves praise for their work. I wish they could have just made the end product and then innovated from there instead of having to rebuild a shit game.
@@hawkshot867 i think you miss a key aspect of breakpoint, it wasn't desgined to be "realistic".
Its just a far cry with few mechanics ported from the division, all of which can be turned off.
Tom Clancy’s Xdefiant. Let us not forget the original name. I think they’re doing drugs. It’s game dev, what else is the money being spent on? You don’t make billions of dollars every year at Ubisoft and just burn it. You slam cocaine and have big boat parties.
They kinda missed their window
Not really, they still have till at least June, THEN they would have missed their window.
Maybe it's just me, but it kinda feels like "no SBMM" is the only selling point of this game.
I’m guessing you never played it
I did, and it was pretty average in my opinion. @@SenditbruhhhTV
@@SenditbruhhhTVShatterline has better gameplay and deserves the playercount this game will get for the first 2 days of launch
@@GameOver-226 it’s had it’s good and bad but someone who’s a COD fanboy I liked it a lot more than the last 3 years of COD
@@onemorescout absolutely not. I played shatter line and it was garbage
The first two letters of the game describe the entire situation pretty well. A massive XD from everyone laughing on the sidelines.
xDefiant is gonna miss its ideal release window if it gets delayed any longer, if they let COD’s next hype cycle overshadow them it’s over. March to mid-May is their best chance for capturing the COD playerbase before Activision can do anything about it.
gulf war gonna have a fire campaign tho im getting it regaudless
I'm half expecting the whole thing to be one very intricate scam
eh, its ubisoft, most of their games could be considered as scams
Pretty sure this is not how scams work lmao
@@gustavkirchoff4633 you sure?
A scam would need to break more than even... I'm pretty sure this shit that everyone almost forgot won't give them as much money lmao
God I just hate shooters built around heroes/operators etc etc. If this never lands I'm not going to shed any tears, it'll just be another victim of ubisoft and an over saturated market.
If that's your stance you would have loved black ops 4
Wait people were actually looking forward to a Ubisoft game? After all their talks of pushing dumb features, the release of an absolute shit pirate game and the slander of actual top tier devs? How down bad are fps people that they did just that?
Casual FPS shooter fans are kind of starved for a fun team match experience. COD is basically just all war zone at this point, and their MP is undesirable with how SBMM is handled so I don’t blame people for hyping up Xdefiant. I don’t know much about it but it looks interesting enough.
@@ContraGrain For me it looks like they're trying to push a Siege clone, with a bunch of reused assets from their other older games like Watch Dogs 2. Imo why not just make a game mode in Siege at that point? I'm sure Siege's engine can be tweaked to play like cod.
The new Prince of Persia fucking slapped tho
@@toopink4death492 As someone who played the last beta, it looks, feels and plays nothing like Siege. They are definitely aiming for an arcade shooter like CoD, so making a new game was the right move. But it's super confusing as to why the game has been stuck in Limbo as it seemed 90% complete after the last beta. All it seemingly needed was more guns, maps, and a few bugfixes and it would have been a decent launch.
Either they found major security holes within the game (like the kind that could enable remote code execution) or they're changing a lot more than Mark Rubin is letting on. It does not take this long to fix a few issues in a game that was already so close to being finished.
Its free to play
They had one chance to grab players after MW3 was demolished as a DLC. If they can get the game out before summer, they might retain a few people, but most likely everyone will as usual go on the CoD hype train, be disappointed and repeat.
now for a Division Heartland video lol
That game probably got sent up to god at this point
@@onemorescout by website for it there seems to be a new beta coming out
I was looking forward to your take on this Fry but I have to say I was a little disappointed you didn’t go deeper into the tweets. You mentioned that something else must be happening behind the scenes for these critical issue delays. Mark responded to a tweet about how the game lost its hype and should’ve dropped back in October.
His response, “Even if you couldn't party up with friends?
Even if the netcode crumbled under scaling from the number of players. Even if you were running around with a bunch of invisible people shooting you. Even if you felt like you were constantly hitching?
I don't think so.”
Sound like the dev team ran into some major issues after the last test and I feel like this tweet was worth discussing. Glad you still decided to cover the recent news though!
"The date was September 11th-"
What tf video did I click on
That one also through me off lol
Seems like Ubisoft had Rubin come out to dispel the rumors when Tom is usually on point. So, clearly the issue is Ubisoft being too involved when before the devs were very open with changes and deadlines. But, if the release date is pushed back due to changes order by the higher ups, that isn’t exactly a good excuse to give the fans. I’m guessing that’s why it’s been quiet. They also did switch to Linux which meant more fixes needed. We’ll have to wait and see.
They could of been non compliant of network guidelines, which if the case takes a big rewrite. That is a failure of the compliance testing team to not ensure early on and is typically done at very early stages of game development. Late find of this, or found at the Cert level would be a disaster.
If that is the case they must’ve messed up bad considering the open beta didn’t have issues there.
they must have messed up really badly.
Btw it's "could have" not "could of. Could of doesn't exist :)
Just imagine, this could of been a stand-alone Spies Vs Mercs game.
I say this every time ubisoft news comes up, how tf are they not fiiling bankruptcy at thsi point? They are just bleeding money nowadays
I mean, what even is the selling point here besides "It's COD but not really"? That's not something that really gets people talking, most COD fans keep buying and playing COD regardless.
Selling point was really that it played like the old CoD. The pre Mw 2019 arcade style but with Ubisoft game factions.
The fact that the execs are chasing COD and delaying xdefiant more to try to add more microtransactions is also probably why Skull and bones had so many lead devs drop it, as their vision for the game wasnt monetisable enough as said by the execs. This then happened with them forcing a certain amount of microtransactions thats why it ended up being a fuck it release it job.
The only thing I can think of is they found vulnerabilities in their engine which run deep causing a huge overhaul, but the timelines still stink of studio interference
The stages of life that I've gone through between the initial beta years ago and the open beta this past spring is insane.
most surprising is that, there are actually people who wait for it. someone give them a hug or something.
HELLO BIGFRY, if u look at marks replies youd get more info into the tech issues, according to mark the netcode broke when a lot of players started playing and theyve rebuilt the entire system, also they werent able to get a party system ready for launch as well
Then they should have come out and tell us the game wasn't finished yet. That's not "a technical issue", that's them building the game for what their budget allowed, not what was expected.
Yes it is. @@ShadowDreamer100
Its literal team fortress with a neo realistic skin
I forgot this game existed
I did not enjoy the XDefiant alpha because it just felt like another cheap COD knockoff that everyone says is gonna kill COD. On release it will probably be hyped up but within a month it will lose 90% of its player base. I tried to give it a chance but I felt like the gunplay was lacking and the graphics just didn't look that good. Who knows though, it could turn out to be good...
Big facts
Mark actually touched on the tech issues and why it happened after it all seemed good - player scaling in the last playtest revealed structural issues in the netcode that, if scaled to a full player base, would cause major issues in the fundamental game systems (he mentions invisible enemies, constant hitching, and inability to party with friends), and these issues had gone unnoticed during small-scale testing because there wasn't as much strain on the servers. These issues actually revealed major structural problems in their netcode that called for overhauls of some of their systems. A lot of the netcode issues apparently lied in the anti-cheat system they were using
I have been wondering what had been going on with XDefiant hopefully they fixed up the audio if it releases.
Man I forgot about this after playing the closed alpha I kind of just forgot about the game it didn't grab me tbh
I just don't know anymore.... These companies can and have made great games, but something has obviously been going wrong and I do hope it changes. Hopefully it is what he says but it's really hard to believe at this point.
"There's something majorly wrong with the devlopment of this title and I don't know what it is." Gee, I don't know. Maybe it could be the fact that it's a Ubisoft product being developed as a free to play title???? I can't imagine one of the most insufferably greedy publishers being too thrilled about releasing a completely new IP for free, regardless of monitization model. It's become very clear over the last 10 or so years that Ubisoft aren't confident in their own developers, so I wouldn't be surprised if the certification issues are due to Ubi being a trash company, and the so called "tech issues" they're experiencing are just a cover for Ubisoft being reluctant to proceed with the project. Just my opinion.
i just shifted mindsets away from 'i need this game asap' to 'if it comes it comes' and nowadays ill just look at the discord once a month or so - and so far nothing important there..
definitely a shame since i'd pay full-price-game just to play the build i played in 2022
They already confirmed it was due to the netcode and party system, both were pretty terrible throughout all the betas. I played all of them since mid 2022. They consistently had problems with both in every single test. Not sure why they said they were going to launch late last year though when it was obvious these both needed fixing.
Love watching your vids dude.
Was literally just asking myself the same question as what's in the title the other day.
Completely forgot about this game. Still haven't forgotten how they slapped Tom Clancy's name on it at the time.
Yeah, I'm more inclined to believe in the exposé than the PR-talk.
Gamers said they want complete games but when a game is delayed to be released complete people cry?
It's complicated but sometimes.
Delay once it's ok. Delay too many times... People won't be patient forever.
It's best to add something to keep the hype/wait going, like a spin-off, a comic or a prologue version. (But you also shouldn't satisfy them or the product is wasted, instead keep them wanting for more)
@@gameboyadvancedsp6727 I do understand that but how many games do we have to be like “dang if only it came out a year later it would be so much better” until we are okay we delays
Seriously don't announce games until you are ready because most of the time features we see in trailers or demos will change or not bee in the game. Cyberpunk still has to alow you to climb with the mantis blades
Forgot about this game. I thought the general feeling from the start was negative since it just looks like a post apocalyptic cod aw.
I wonder what engine they’re using though. Thought Ubisoft had shit engines, could be wrong though.
Where the heck is the division heartland! Providing nothing there also 😂
all we can do right now is wait. we shouldn’t be assuming without much proof. I’m not saying your concerns are unfounded, I mean to say that until we actually get access to it, we should not be deciding whether it is a scam or not.
This is literally a day before situation. "Oh its not a complete application issue no worries it'll come 'soon.'"
The truth is that none of these new FPS games are gonna hit. It comes down to the human nature of change is meh. People "want" new and fresh Games/Ideas but rather stick to playing a few rounds with friends on the Games we all know and already own. It's kinda like with FIFA/MADDEN/NBA2K in sport games, nobody really likes those but we keep rather playing those than new ones. So CoD, Fortnite and Apex gonna be here for a long while. Anything new is gonna funnel down to a small playerbase and eventually not make enough profit and die.
The only thing wrong with this game is that Ubisoft is working on it. If anyone else was working on it, we'd be playing it right now.
Could we be waiting as long as Skull and Bones?
I can see the Share holders/Execs trying to get on the CoD monetization model and the Devs trying their best to not do that.
If I didn't know it was a Ubisoft game, I would thinking this was so random indie game.
i liked the open beta but if they're trying to approach COD features, its not going to be unique anymore. just another COD like fps.
Really hope that official update is coming this week from the official XDefiant socials like Mark said. If its not about a release date and an official one then this game is definitely a lost cause thanks to being under the infamous Ubisoft shenanigans.
I forgot this thing was still coming out. When was this even announced? I can't remember anymore
Just imagine if that beta we played had just stayed up and they kept developing the game while we played it.
They should release the game NOW even if its not ready so we can complain about the game being unfinished
The gaming community gets irritated when half baked games get released, but irritated when games get delayed.
What's the alternative boys and gals? I think studios should only market when they're confident to give a release date.
Having delay after delay kinda means the game is probably gonna be a disaster at launch usually.
The Beta and subsequent play tests didn't come off as a typical Beta, seemed to be one of the cleanest tests I have witnessed...major system overhaul seems out of character here. I totally agree with BigFry.
"The communication and transparency was just a marketing ploy" is not a fair take. The communication had been decent from Mark and the company only until 6 months ago when the finished game became on the verge, and they were working on final major bugs (which they still are). Mark had said several times that the messages from him to the community and the questions they asked were all repetitive and being answered on a continuous cycle. There had been no new information to give and he was getting tired of giving the same information, and the people would obviously rage every time he would say "I cant say when the game will be released/We are still fixing game bugs and don't know when we'll be done." Besides that it is common knowledge that no matter what release we are talking here (movie, game, tv-show etc.) the closer to release or product completion, the less information is exposed about it.
For almost 2 years they had solid communication until the late stages, now it's "it was all a ploy"? Anyone saying that has definitely not been following this game's updates.
It’s really interesting to see that every AAA company doesn’t care about product quality, not a single triple a studio cares about the effort that goes into their games… maybe rockstar is the only exception but even then they milked gta5 just because they know they didn’t have to make another game for how many years?
There has been what, 3 COD titles released since XDefiant announced 3 years ago? How brutal is that? This is beginning to turn into a meme of a game release, even more than it has already.
i get email for testing beta 3 at 19 april i think it may be 24 hours first it was supossed to be 12 hours
They're bringing up SBMM to try to shift the conversations to what they want to keep the game in a positive tone.
They need to release this before COD starts their heavy promo for the new Black Ops game. Right now would be the perfect time for the game to drop...
I was excited about XDefiant. Its a free game, and sure its COD, but at least its more on a side of a hero shooter COD with its characters having different abilities and stuff. However, the way things are, I fear that the launch would be worse than what the game was like back when I joined its public beta testing.
Never heard of the game and I'm not much of a PVP/FPS player but with the little experience I do have in indie development. If they submitted the game and it was declined and now they are having major system over hauls that is not changing the actual game play... It sounds like something to do with the server side of the game. It could be they did not meet certain requirements for data encryption for users, could have something to do with the system they used to push out updates after release did not meet those console requirements it could be an endless number of things. Now I've never submitted a game to a console company but I have to an app store and the amount of hoops you have to jump through is nuts, I think I had to resubmit like 10 times before I had finally met every requirement. Buttt... this is a triple AAA studio with very talented developers so its hard to believe they made that big of a mistake during development that they have to completely overhaul a system, so I'm intrigued to hopefully hear what the final result is.
I personally think it’s the same concept/issue as they had with R6 Extraction. The license was probably expiring on some of these properties (Tom Clancy) and they were required to push out SOMETHING to prove that they were actively making new games with the IP so they didn’t get the rights yanked.
Could totally be off base but that’s the only real/believable reason that they released and dumped Extraction after about 3-4 months of support; to prove that they were actively using and creating something new with the IP, which they wouldn’t have had to do if they hadn’t BOLDLY made the promise of “supporting R6 Siege for 10 years”.
"Fans are getting angry". How does unreleased title already have fans?
I think certain powers are giving them trouble hope all goes well so we can experience it
2:45 - I am confused. Did you mean Q1 2024? Q4 2024 would be around the end of the year.
Fiscal year Q4
BigFry, I gotta ask... why do you find it so hard to believe that they're having a ton of technical issues?
Each new release Call of Duty somehow manages to have major issues with their party system along with game crashing bugs galore. They're one of the largest publishers and have near limitless resources, and even they fail to get it right.
We've witnessed the downfall of studio after studio, game after game in the online pvp space over the years.
There are zero other studios who have even remotely tried to make an fps that comes close to feeling like or "competing" with COD on any level.
To me, it's obvious that it's EXTREMELY difficult (basically impossible if we look at the lack of games) to make a solid and functional first person online shooter (that is multiplatform). I have no issue believing Rubin that they're having tons of problems, even if they were close to releasing at one point.
If anything, they caught the issues and understood that it would kill the game if they released it in the state it was in. Which I get, people are upset and don't want to wait because the game seemed to be okay, but they'd rather lose a few people in the long run then be dead on arrival.
Just my 2 cents.
To be honest with all the problems the next few CoDs will have, I think this game is going to do well regardless. I just don't like hearing about "major system overhauls" or him not denying the article by calling it an "eye roll" when he could just straight up deny the claims.
My theory is that they probably added a 120fps mode for console or they made a very small balance change that broke the whole build during certification so they delayed their certification and they’ve been adding more features to the game since then
I’m completely over it. If the game launched in a few weeks, I’m not sure if I even would play it. Considering I’m having a really good time again with rainbow six and once a month I go back to search & destroy mode on call of duty. I’m also looking forward to other shooters like gray zone, Delta force.
This games gonna tank after 2 months of release
Like every Ubisoft game ever made
Also he says there will be an update in about a week.. that doesn't necessarily mean the game is coming soon. we could still be looking at months away
solid vid, BF. Keep at it
This kinda feels like a star citizen situation....they might give us slices of the game or beta's but I don't think it will ever come up. They will never be transparent because it in their minds do more harm than good, they will never be able to take on or take down cod. Ubisoft's live service or open world games have been bland or boring with very Lil content
No, not at all.
Star Citizen is insane scope creep voted for and enabled by the community surrounding it who keep on funding it.
There is some impressive tech behind Star Citizen, but I want to see an actual game (Squadron 42) before I fully make up my mind about it.
How did they get denied submission yet cyberpunk made it through
The open transparency reminds me of how bf2042 came out
Hey big fry what the issue that they are working on is the net code and anything that needs to make the game run smooth that’s what broke and what they are currently trying to fix
It looks like Xdefiant is just Ubisoft being Ubisoft all over again
I had forgotten about this game. 😂
At this point this game is on my ''whatever'' list, it'll come out whenever it comes out. They absolutely fumbled their launch, they had amazing hype behind it.
This game had hype???
Rubin goes from saying it was a technical issue right before launch in one tweet to infrastructure and system overhauls in the very next one. Just come out and tell us the full game wasn't done yet, fuck. Makes me think that the big Whigs really were continuously requesting feature additions to compete against CoD.
If it was just buggy the game would have already released. Plenty of AAA and AA titles have released the last few years (thanks Cyberpunk for cementing that trend) in a shitty technical and playable state and still made millions before any patch went live.
When i heard ubisoft, i was no longer surprised
Will this game run good on my pc? It is a GTX 1650 AMD ryzen 3 4100
I'm pretty sure the cause of delays is The Finals. I don't see xDefiant competing with CoD, but The Finals. Which is a fun game to play for FREE
I’m Starting to consider a theory that they might be taking devs off of XDefiant to do work on R6 because it’s recently popular..
im just waiting on an Alara Prime update
I worried that if the game doesn't drop soon, like within the next 2-3 months the game might flop because of competition with other games. We need the game to come out during the downtime of other popular games so it can have its own spotlight. If they release it too late it's going to have to compete with Treyarch's next game which is said to have the longest dev time out of any cod, so this one could be big. Then there rumors that Fortnite OG is coming back near the end of the year, and based off the last time it was one of the most played games during the entire month. All this time they have spent doing "bug fixes" has drastically dropped the hype and anticipations for the game and they are going to have to build all that up again to get it back on ppls radars.
first off im a very patient person so yeah im still hyped, and second if anyone thought they were gonna be 100% transparent with us yall are funny as hell, i really enjoyed the beta with my friends and we're definitely gonna play it when it comes out
I'd rather many delays, even with long periods of radio silence, than a rush or unfinished release
I played the Beta and it was full on fun like older cods. it was fcking awesome and i will wait until its there and when its there its going to be awesome. Just wait a little longer guys
Not only XDefiant, Division Heartland seems to be inte the same rough spot
It's Ubisoft, idk what everyone was expecting, lol.
things that probably needed to be implemented, skin shop or a br
September 11 2001 : Horrific event which took the lives of many
September 11 2023 : sowwy, Ubisoft cannot release game for next 42 years. 🥺🥺🥺
It is genuinely mind numbing to know that Ubisoft finally landed on an IP that people were honestly enjoying and saw potential in just for it to fall flat with 0 real communication to it's player base. Ubisoft is a dumpster fire.
"The day was September 11th........" My heart skipped a beat😊
Its one unnamed source saying the delay is due to cod features. The phrasing around it breaking the build is off. Like its not a fucking surprise integrating features take time. It doesnt break the build. Undocumented breaking changes in dependencies breal the build. License expiring may breal the build. Platform update on the build pipeline may break the build. No way a software dev said that hurr durr, adding shit breaks shit.