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222 REM. PRAIRIE DOGGEN. 250-450+ yards.

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  • @dubson_h2500
    @dubson_h2500 4 роки тому +12

    Bad ethics shooting animals with that caliber at those ranges. paper targets fine, but animals no. I hunt too but this is not nice to see.

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  4 роки тому +60

      You obviously have NO CLUE what you are babbling on about. Stick to your video gaming and leave the shooting sports to the real men.

    • @dubson_h2500
      @dubson_h2500 4 роки тому +3

      cavedweller1959 My point exactly. ”Shooting sports” is not on living targets, that is on paper. Hence the comment about ethics. No need to get personal on your attack, try to stick to the subject. If you want to try the limits of your precision do it on paper and not on something that suffer when you fail.

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  4 роки тому +27

      @@dubson_h2500 Shooting sports are only on paper??? Millions of man hours spent every year sport hunting every kind of game animal and varmints of all types, world wide, and you think sport is only on paper. Nothing personal about my comment, you are just clueless, I've been killing rats for almost 45 years with this very rifle, occasionally, when the wind lays down, I have killed them at much longer distances than in this video, we just didn't have cameras and Y-T. Sorry dude, you are truly clueless on this topic.

    • @CS-zn6pp
      @CS-zn6pp 4 роки тому +25

      With these rounds on this size animal you are almost 100% assured a humane kill if you hit.
      Remember, this is pest control not table hunting.

    • @haml28
      @haml28 4 роки тому +2

      stfu.. killen all 👍🏻

  • @soomee1000
    @soomee1000 6 років тому +10

    I got a .222 Sako Vixen with a match grade barrel, shot the original Borfos barrel out. Do a lot of small antelope hunting here in Africa on our farm, mostly Steenbok, Duiker, and Klipspringer, took a lot of Springbok to, love this riffle!!!!

  • @sawhill729
    @sawhill729 2 роки тому +2

    My favorite video C.D. Camera work was absolutely perfect. One of the clearest, sharpest ones.

  • @magnus9165
    @magnus9165 2 роки тому +2

    People forget just how accurate the .222 was and still is. Good to see you still shooting one. The .222 is just a half a step less range than the .223. I still shoot mine with great results. Later in the day, it seems more distance is required, then the .22-250 come out.

  • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
    @CumberlandOutdoorsman 6 років тому +6

    That's some phenominal shooting at 480 yards! I didn't know the triple deuce could be that effective at such distant ranges. I always thought that was .22-250 or 220 Swift territory, but you have shown how far that little round can reach, (gets out there fast too). I own a Remington chambered in .222 that I have shot penny sized groups with at 100 yards using Sierra blitzking bullets on top of 20 grains of H4198. Long live the .222........-what a great round. Thanks Cavedweller, and thanks to the late Mike Walker (designer of the .222 ).

    • @dubson_h2500
      @dubson_h2500 4 роки тому

      Cumberland Outdoorsman The shooting is fine. It is just a pity he don’t care if the bullet only rips the jaw off of the animals. Showcasing precision could be Done fine on papertargets without risking unecessary pain for the animals. If you really need to get rid of the animals then a more reliable caliber for the distance Should be used if you want to act responsibly.

    • @CumberlandOutdoorsman
      @CumberlandOutdoorsman 4 роки тому

      @@dubson_h2500 OK, I am all for humane and responsible hunting, but I failed to see any crippling shots in this video. I have seen other videos that are clearly examples of cruelty and inhumane practices, but not here. I understand that the .222 has been described as a 250 yard cartridge in magazines and books, but this guy obviously knows his rifle/bullet combination, and where it will be at the given distances that he is shooting in field conditions as is displayed in the video. I personally don't have the long range experience that this man has, but I do know that the .222 is inherently the most accurate of all the .22 centerfires.

  • @Klaatu-ij9uz
    @Klaatu-ij9uz Рік тому +1

    Back in the 1960's the Herter's catalog was my favorite piece of equipment. Bought NUMEROUS items from them. The rifles were intriguing, too. Bought a .300 Win. and a 6mm. Can't recall the name of the action design. I don't have the rifles any longer, but I know who has them.

  • @jimfalls6583
    @jimfalls6583 11 місяців тому +1

    My Dad's old fox gun is now my favorite coyote gun - Remington 600 in .222

  • @ozcountryliving4751
    @ozcountryliving4751 2 роки тому +3

    Mate i LOVE the 222.
    Very accurate. And a brilliant allrounder.
    Often compared with the 223, but to be honest, they are completely different beasts!.
    I prefer the 222 for general use.

  • @soomee1000
    @soomee1000 6 років тому +6

    Thank you sir, love your videos...... Greetings from South Africa

    • @frufru0071
      @frufru0071 5 років тому

      Ben Bravo I hope to visit your Country before I pass on to the next journey. I’d like to get into a cage and see a Great White-or several! The many different microclimates and resulting scenic countryside that I’ve only seen on television and in pictures that I’ve seen from South African people with whom I backpacked through Turkey...& they let me stay with them in London. Fabulous people! 👍🏼👍🏼🇿🇦!!

  • @sugargoldy
    @sugargoldy 5 років тому +9

    Awesome video I have a 223 and 22-250 but I think I need a 222 just to add to the collection

    • @philippefrater2000
      @philippefrater2000 5 років тому +3

      You won't be disappointed. I use it, it's a f.....g flat shooter!
      Regards from France!
      🖖🏻🇫🇷😎🇫🇷🤪🇫🇷🖖🏻

  • @cpprcrk1833
    @cpprcrk1833 7 років тому +2

    My very first centerfire rifle that I owned was a Remington 700 BDL in .222 . I loved it so much , that I still own it ! Bought it in '78 , put a Weaver 10× a.o. on it that I bought used . Tack driver . I still love the triple deuce , it's a shame that it's fallen out of favor these days . It's a reloaders dream , and just about everyone I ever shot was very accurate. Inherited an Anshutz 153 from a favorite uncle , I believe it's the most accurate rifle I've ever fired .
    Love your video !

    • @rbm6184
      @rbm6184 6 років тому +1

      I have the same rifle. Remington M700 BDL in triple 2. It is a killing machine. Crazy accurate even with factory ammo but hand loads are just awesome. I got mine sometime in the early 90s. Below it has my old Simmons 4-12x40 duplex reticle scope if I recall correctly. I have raised Weaver thru rings so I can shoot both iron sights and scope. Right now I have a little 3-9x32 mil dot reticle scope on it. Not as good magnification as the Simmons though but I like the mil dot better. Oops. My bad. The photos show it with the 3-9x32 mil dot scope on it. Same here, the most accurate rifle I have ever fired bar none and my Savage 110 .25-06 (my first centerfire rifle) was a very accurate rifle so that is saying something. Never needed to bed this rifle, its that good right out of the box. With all my .223 brass I can resize down to .222 I have an endless supply but I still have a good stock of original dedicated .222 brass to use before going there. I can also use the iron sights with the raised or riser thru rings. If I switched to a larger scope (objective lens) I would not be able to access the iron sights. That is why it sports a smaller scope now.
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    • @frufru0071
      @frufru0071 5 років тому

      RB M that is a beautiful rifle, Sir/(Mam)🤷🏼‍♂️. Thanks very much for sharing your pictures with us!

  • @williamgibb5557
    @williamgibb5557 3 роки тому +1

    Years ago was shooting at 500-600 yards through double 4x4s clean in and massize out! Love the accuracy!

  • @rbm6184
    @rbm6184 6 років тому +2

    Awesome. Folks that think the triple 2 is only good out to 300 yards should see this video. Thanks for sharing. Do some more videos on the extremely accurate triple 2. One shot two kills. Great video.

  • @MrStevo440
    @MrStevo440 2 роки тому

    My Dad had a 222 back in 75/76 .. It was my favorite gun to shoot out of the 7 or 8 he had at the time..

  • @imjusttoodissgusted5620
    @imjusttoodissgusted5620 4 роки тому +5

    over 300 yards with a .222, that is some serious skill, drop and drift estimates must be perfect.

  • @larrymeyer7064
    @larrymeyer7064 Рік тому

    Well, videoed, I like the way you narrate, you do keep it interesting and not boring. Rodent control necessary in the farm field. I shoot a lot of Belding ground squirrels and rock chucks in south central Oregon area. I enjoy much like you do. Thanks for the video. 5:03

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket 7 років тому +3

    40 gr Speer soft point with the .220 Swift does a 'bit' more on these (4200 fps). But you have the barrel life.

  • @robertmeyers1557
    @robertmeyers1557 4 роки тому +2

    Good morning cavedweller really enjoy your videos have a dog hunt planned for July in Sheldon Wyoming my first one have 222/. 204/ and 17 ready to go . I also have had good accuracy with V max. Thanks again keep up the great work

    • @mrcirino5181
      @mrcirino5181 4 роки тому

      Hi I just got my hands on a 222 and I knew it reloading can you give me some insights on how much powder and maybe what kind of powder

    • @rbm6184
      @rbm6184 4 роки тому

      @@mrcirino5181 I use IMR 4198 for mine. Most accurate for mine. Does not take that much charge per case, maybe 20 grains or so. 55gr. bullets mostly. Look up loads for it in a Hornady or Nosler reloading manual or one of the reloading or bullet or powder companies loading booklets. If you run short on .222 brass cases you can always full length resize .223 brass cases down to .222. All you are doing is reforming the case to .222. The .222 has a longer neck and why its more accurate than .223. Thin lube. Too much lube and you get dents. Too little lube and you get a stuck case. Trim it down to .222 case length.

    • @mrcirino5181
      @mrcirino5181 4 роки тому +1

      @@rbm6184
      Thanks I just got my hands on a new scale so I might be doing that here in a day or so

  • @TOECUTTER876
    @TOECUTTER876 7 років тому +3

    great clip,just purchased a weihrauch 222 if I get half as much accuracy as the tack driver you have I,ll be happy.

  • @PointofimpactTV
    @PointofimpactTV 8 років тому +2

    Nice work! Loved the triple! When I visit my friend in the USA shooting gophers in Montana I always hope for that to happen.

  • @PointofimpactTV
    @PointofimpactTV 7 років тому +3

    Just watched this again, some excellent shooting

  • @ShoulderRollJason
    @ShoulderRollJason 8 років тому +3

    What a legend been dying for him to make more 222 videos.

  • @ozosborne9716
    @ozosborne9716 6 років тому +4

    some good shots there chap . and may i say good lookin country too

  • @scottrussell6717
    @scottrussell6717 3 роки тому +2

    Beautiful rifle... loved that..... bowling on the prairie

  • @TOECUTTER876
    @TOECUTTER876 7 років тому +5

    just found your channel ,love the no bullshit commentary , keep up the good work.
    Brad NSW Australia

  • @blaynemacpherson8519
    @blaynemacpherson8519 3 роки тому +1

    I used a 53 grain HP with IMR 4895 behind it in a 222 Remington 40XB. It was fun pest control.

  • @davidwagner4671
    @davidwagner4671 7 років тому +2

    Great shooting. I like the rifle and caliber one of my favorite.

  • @jpesall
    @jpesall 8 років тому +3

    Great cartridge!

  • @williamtarr9758
    @williamtarr9758 5 років тому +2

    I have the 222 and love this rifle

  • @JamieMG
    @JamieMG 11 місяців тому

    Sweet shooting with the triple deuce!!
    😊
    Thanks for sharing

  • @piosian4196
    @piosian4196 2 роки тому +1

    I remember the days when the cattlemen welcomed us to their ranches. I had a Remington 700 BDL in .222, My partner had a Win 70 in 25-06 which he re-, loaded carefully. We get about even under 200 yards. He beat me beyond that. I wondered how those groundhogs can hear a safety unclick at that distances,. A cow breaks a leg when she steps into a groundhog burrow. and she becomes a "Downer Beef". Our friends barbecues the groundhog meat just like beef but more greasy. It's hard to believe 1972 is already half a century ago,

  • @freedomofabird
    @freedomofabird 8 років тому +1

    Great shooting and looks so much fun!

  • @tjaelens
    @tjaelens 4 роки тому +2

    Great videos Cavedweller. Teach us about scopes when you havew time.

  • @montanaoutdoors1209
    @montanaoutdoors1209 2 роки тому +1

    same bullet in mine on top of 14 gr imr 4227, 3/4 inch groups all day in my 788, can't complain.

    • @piosian4196
      @piosian4196 2 роки тому

      Any bullet and propellant are accurate if you weigh the charges. I like H110 or BLC-2 for my .222. I make my loads same day not hot one day and humid and rainy the next.

  • @scottf.3808
    @scottf.3808 8 років тому

    Now that is one fun day of hunting on the prairie...Good shooting and vid...

  •  8 років тому +2

    Looks to me like you're having too much fun

  • @billburns9260
    @billburns9260 8 років тому +1

    Wonderful Video! Great Shooting! ya Got No Mountains, But Still Very Beautiful!.. Thanks For Sharing & God Bless!.

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  8 років тому +2

      We do have mountains, 150 miles farther west, And I will be there in December chasing elk. Thanks for Watching.

    • @billburns9260
      @billburns9260 8 років тому

      Thanks For Making a Video So Enjoyable to Watch! Very Impressive Shooting Sir!..
      Good Luck on the Elk Adventure!.

  • @russmach6244
    @russmach6244 3 роки тому +1

    my dad had one back in the sixty great shootin

  • @gunman-6646
    @gunman-6646 2 роки тому +1

    Nice setup!

  • @NESig
    @NESig Рік тому +1

    That's right, poisoning a town kills EVERYTHING! And that looks to be a Herter's stock on that rifle as well.

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  Рік тому

      Herters U9, BSA action.

    • @NESig
      @NESig Рік тому

      @@cavedweller1959 Understood! I recognize the action. That stock has all the hallmarks of a Herter's design stock, i.el. the jagged "lightning" contrasting stripe in the spacer on the pistol grip cap and recoil pad. The big Monte Carlo rollover cheek pad is another feature on some Herter's stocks.

  • @bradheppner1299
    @bradheppner1299 6 років тому +3

    yep,beats being in a factory

  • @307cass
    @307cass 4 роки тому +4

    Bowling on the Prairie!! Love it. Do you wear Bowling Shoes?

  • @backwoodsslayer2006
    @backwoodsslayer2006 4 роки тому +8

    222 is a dying round. Its sad because it’s a great round next to 223

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  4 роки тому +4

      I do have a barrel that was given to me to spin onto a Savage action, 223/5.56, and it shoots sort of OK. But for me, the 223/5.56 is only good for what it was developed for, the M16{not for us}, and the AR15 platform.

    • @spadelugs
      @spadelugs Рік тому

      I couldn’t disagree more. There will always be a place for the 222. The only ones that say they are dying are the people that never shot them. They’re inherent accuracy is amazing

  • @spadelugs
    @spadelugs Рік тому +1

    What scope do you have? Is it an an older meapro what do you think of the newer meoptics?

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  Рік тому +1

      I have 2 Meoptas that I got around 2015-16. Both very good optics, only complaint, the crosshair is too thick.

  • @sammylacks4937
    @sammylacks4937 2 роки тому

    Well I see you have another oldy but Goody caliber. It s actually a great caliber and one I knew existed but only recently have I learned of the history and accuracy of the triple duece. You have some fine guns and chambered in since I learned if it two of my favorite calibers. Sadly, I looked an not one gun manufacturer are chambering this round anymore.

    • @sammylacks4937
      @sammylacks4937 2 роки тому

      @Quintius Hirpinus Thanks for the reply and letting me know. I had Googled that it and it came back that caliber was no longer chambered. Goes to show how not to depend on that. I thought what a shame when I saw that after learning what I had about its accuracy. I don t
      own any presently but have always liked those old school calibers that have fallen out of favor usually by the popularity of another as the case of the 257 Roberts and the 25- 06.
      I took 3 different mags when young and read all cover to cover but my favorite where the shooting articles each month and got and early education on ballistics and those calibers I mentioned. Jack O'Conner and Jim Charmicle taught me a lot.

    • @sammylacks4937
      @sammylacks4937 2 роки тому

      @Quintius Hirpinus Thank you so much for that info.

  • @dennisadhs
    @dennisadhs 8 років тому

    Nice shooting. Lots of good p dogging in South Dakota.

  • @Gixer750pilot
    @Gixer750pilot 7 років тому +6

    Careful with your terminology guys, Doggin/ Dogging means a whole different thing here in the UK.......or so I'm told

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  7 років тому

      So what the hell does it mean in the UK. Something tells me this is going to be funny.

    • @Gixer750pilot
      @Gixer750pilot 7 років тому

      Well my friend.....just google it..... "Dogging Spots".......it may change your opinions about some Brits.
      Still waiting for my B-mag target to arrive. I have watched your bedding video a dozen times and I shall again and do the same. I'm tempted to try the Epoxy putty though. what do you think ? and normal resin at the rear.

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  7 років тому

      Doggin sounds fun, if I was still 20. I did the JB Weld just to show that it can be used, Like I said in the video, for the guy that will only ever do one rifle. The consistency is not good and your working window is short, but it is cheap. Buy the stuff made for it, the shelf live is forever and there is 3-5 rifles worth in the kit.

    • @Gixer750pilot
      @Gixer750pilot 7 років тому

      cavedweller1959 hey dweller !!
      My b.mag target has arrived and it's shooting 1" groups at 100 yds so hoping to get even better after bedding it.
      What I have noticed however , was a scratch down the length of the spent cases, being caused by a burr on the edge of the breach. It scratches when the bullet goes in and again when the spent cage is ejected . At first I thought it was a manufacturing fault, but I have just realised it where the firing pin has been bashing it when dry firing . I was under the impression modern rifles can be try fired . Clearly the b.mag cannot . It would be worth getting your opinion on it and checking yours , maybe do a quick video on it highlighting the issue .

    • @petermerem82
      @petermerem82 7 років тому

      What gun are you shooting?

  • @frufru0071
    @frufru0071 5 років тому +2

    Do you have any problems finding ammunition for that rifle? 222 is a little bit scarce here on Vancouver Island.

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  5 років тому +2

      Brass is readily available, I reload 95%+ of all center fire rounds.

    • @coady-wp3xf
      @coady-wp3xf 5 років тому +1

      westside store has tons. salmon arm. Canadian tire in the valley has tons. northern precision kelowna, powder keg kamloops. cabelas has some as well.

    • @frufru0071
      @frufru0071 5 років тому

      matt coady...Thanks. I was actually commenting on what’s readily available on Vancouver Island-Victoria to be precise. Yes, I could order some from the mainland & if I do, I’ll take your advice and try Kamloops, Salmon Arm, or Kelowna. I used to plant trees & I’ve lived in Kelowna, (up at Big White)...I know I’m living in an area that has very few trucks, and even fewer firearms per capita than most of our Province. Thanks again.

    • @minazahedi9802
      @minazahedi9802 4 роки тому

      Port Alberni has some

  • @philippefrater2000
    @philippefrater2000 5 років тому +2

    I shoot 222 and 243. These are so flat i can't even tell!

  • @michaelbrooker1433
    @michaelbrooker1433 5 років тому +1

    There is a similar rifle at a local shop, all original and mint, the most beautiful polish and blueing. Older Leupold scope. Something over $2,000, he didn't get very specific. Double set triggers, such a nice setup. I need it like a hole in the head, what could I trade towards it?

    • @chrisn262
      @chrisn262 4 роки тому

      Michael Brooker is the rifle a Krico ?
      Thanks

  • @The_Mimewar
    @The_Mimewar 6 років тому +2

    That sunrise was...amazing. Where is that?

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  6 років тому +8

      Western South Dakota.

    • @The_Mimewar
      @The_Mimewar 6 років тому +1

      cavedweller1959 well, I need to see that before I die

    • @frufru0071
      @frufru0071 5 років тому

      cavedweller1959 - not to be confused with Southwestern Dakota! What a beautiful place it is!

  • @Rickfyoutube
    @Rickfyoutube 4 роки тому +1

    I wish your camera would have more zoom.

  • @stealth308
    @stealth308 3 роки тому

    CD thanks for vid 😉

  • @texpatriot8462
    @texpatriot8462 2 роки тому +1

    Why don't they hide in their holes when the shooting starts?

    • @AllThingsLoud_
      @AllThingsLoud_ Рік тому

      Most of the times a lot of smaller game will only run or hide if they hear something approaching them because then it’s perceived as a threat. If nothing is around and they just hear a shot they may stop what they were doing glass the area and then get right back to it

  • @KingPhilipsRideshare
    @KingPhilipsRideshare Рік тому

    TRIPPY DUUU

  • @michaelfritz6775
    @michaelfritz6775 4 роки тому

    Nice gun.....

  • @pyroarea3040
    @pyroarea3040 5 років тому

    Niceee out look.nice hit

  • @pseudopetrus
    @pseudopetrus 5 років тому +2

    Are those Prairie Dogs good eating?

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  5 років тому +4

      Negative.

    • @rkba4923
      @rkba4923 5 років тому +2

      Yes, fox, coyote, raccoon, opossum, hawk, eagle, owl and numerous bugs/insects love them. You're more than welcome to eat my fair share of them though.

    • @frufru0071
      @frufru0071 5 років тому +1

      RKBA funny stuff, brother!😂

    • @geemaa5762
      @geemaa5762 5 років тому +1

      Taste like chicken...

  • @JimmyHondaRacing12
    @JimmyHondaRacing12 6 років тому +2

    Great video! I could probably help wipe a few out if you need a hand 😉

  • @peda3211971
    @peda3211971 7 років тому

    did you have a plan of this shooting-table/chair?

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  7 років тому +2

      Sorry, I don't. It's a store bought rig, found it on a yard sale.

  • @tonydentonarms4112
    @tonydentonarms4112 Рік тому

    I have the same shooting bench

  • @Rafa-hw5ld
    @Rafa-hw5ld 2 роки тому

    I have Winchester modelo 70 222, and reload whit 55gr hornady bullets GMX, Tamaulipas México.

  • @michaelfritz6775
    @michaelfritz6775 3 роки тому +1

    People keep asking why shoot beasts with the plague....cows brake legs....etc....etc....

  • @ronmatson5502
    @ronmatson5502 3 роки тому

    Where yuh from that you say rummage sale,I'm in western pa

  • @cadecorneliusen3047
    @cadecorneliusen3047 5 років тому

    Have you used H322 on any loading, if so how was it?

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  5 років тому

      Sorry, that's one I've never played with.

    • @hankbrinlee4677
      @hankbrinlee4677 5 років тому

      H322 and a 50 grain Speer TNT is pretty good medicine at @ 3200fps. The .222 is one of the greatest varmint cartridges of all time, not flashy but exceptionally accurate with good barrel life. All IMHO of course... :-)

  • @canelosanchez2559
    @canelosanchez2559 4 роки тому

    Es permitido para cazar venados si o no

  • @heppnerheppner4999
    @heppnerheppner4999 5 років тому

    Could you shoot with Elmer Keith?

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  5 років тому +5

      When I cross over to the other side, I'd love to spend time shooting with Elmer.

  • @vellu175
    @vellu175 3 роки тому +2

    Why are you shooting those animals.
    Are they causing problems, or will you eat them?

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  3 роки тому +11

      Well, we don't eat them, so it must be because they cause huge problems when they are left to over populate. Out on the prairie grass lands, you can have all the P-Dogs you want, and go broke. Or you can raise cattle and make a good living. You just can't do both.

  • @brianmorgan9365
    @brianmorgan9365 4 роки тому

    Dang wake up in the morning hanging out and just get shot at! minding your own business.

    • @GodSoloGames
      @GodSoloGames Рік тому

      Not really, prairie dogs cause massive damage to the land.

  • @richardvanc3298
    @richardvanc3298 Рік тому

    when you had the new barrel put on your 222 rem. did you stay with factory twist rate or did you opt for something faster ?

    • @cavedweller1959
      @cavedweller1959  Рік тому

      I stayed with the 1-14", should have gone with a 1-12". Would be good for any varmint weight pills on the market.