Rifle Cartridge Review: 222 Remington
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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In this video I do a review of the 222 Remington, also called the triple deuce. I compare it to the 22 Hornet and the 223 Remington.
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*correction… I mentioned the 30-30 having 30 grains of black powder. I meant smokeless powder. I also said 22 Remington, I meant 22 Creedmoor. lol, good grief.
I’m a .222 Remington fan.
I own and shoot a nice Revelation model 225 in .222 Remington that my Pop got new in 1965 when I was 6 years old. It is the first center fire rifle I ever fired at a young age and the .222 is the caliber he taught me to handload with. The Revelation Model 225 is a Western Auto Stores branded Savage 340 for those of you that aren’t familiar with that era of firearms history. Yep it’s still a tack driver. I still have vintage optics on it. It currently wears a vintage Weaver K4 and it’s still crystal clear.
It’s a keeper and I take it hunting and target shooting often.
@@skiphinson8620 cool. I have a bolt action Western Auto 20 Gauge.
My very first rifle was a custom built Sako 471 action/ Shilen barrel in .222. Took my first deer with it at 5 years old, sitting on my dads knee. i can't even begin to count how many women and young kids learned to shoot with this rifle, or how many tons of deer meat this little rifle has put in the cooler. i currently still use this gun, almost 50 years later still wearing the same Leupold 4X scope from day one. Although, I do currently own 2 .222's now. A limited run Browning micro medallion, and a Howa 1500 mini action. All shoot tiny less than to 1/4 inch groups at 100 yards. Accurate is an understatement! If I had to choose only one cartridge to shoot the rest of my life, this would be my first and only choice. But, alas, I live in a world where I don't have to make that choice. Sweet Pea always comes out to shine quite often though!
That’s great! I appreciate the comment!
I have a pair of Rem 700's in .222, plus a .222mag. They are all tack drivers shooting inside of 1/2MOA with their favorite load.
That’s awesome!
I once shot a 222 Mag at a bench shoot late 70’s. It was a friend’s rig and the trigger was so light it wouldn’t engage half the time. When I did manage to get five shots of in the allotted time there was always a flier. I told him and the guys there about that thinking it was me as I never shot that rifle before. He said next round when you get that flier put that case upside down in the box. We reloaded those same cases between rounds. I showed him which one it was and he smashed the case in an arbor press and said to use one of the spotter rounds. I was so far behind at that point in the 100 yard match I finished 14/14 dead last. The guy to my left had all the new fancy state of the art stuff to shoot and told me that had been his rifle and was shot out. At 200 yards I finished 9/14 with a shot out 222mag against some of the best shooters and gear on the west coast. One of the guys I beat was the guy who said the rifle was shot out. Lesson take away. Mark your cases that are fliers. It could be you but it might just be a case.
.222 Remington is a great ol cartridge.
My Pop was into the varmint shooting scene which was quite popular in the mid 1960s here in my home area. He bought a new Revelation model 225 in .222 Remington. If you’re not familiar with Revelation branded firearms, they were Western Auto’s store branded guns produced by many different well known manufacturers depending upon the gun itself. This Revelation model 225 was a Savage model 340 and my Pop bought it in 1965. It’s a beautiful gun. Well taken care of and still looks like new. It’s also a tack driver in that fabulous .222 Remington caliber. I was six years old when he get it. Currently I am 65 years old and still enjoy this great old rifle AND the .222 Remington.
I have a Revelation 20 Gauge bolt action shotgun that was my dad’s.
I have a Remington 700 bdl in a 222 that I bought back in the early 1990’s it shoots pretty good with 50 grain bullets I got it to clover leaf at 100 yards and my uncle always shot 222 from when it was first introduced in 1950 he had a sako L 61 action that he had re-barreled it twice after shooting out the original barrel before he had died it was his favorite and almost shot it exclusively
Thanks for sharing this!
I used to have a West German Krico manufactured detachable five shot box magazine, bolt action stalking rifle, chambered in the 222 Remington cartridge.
It had a traditional European style full lengthed timber stock, terminating at the muzzle in a beautiful capped scharble end.
It had a pancake cheek rest in the butt stock. It had skip line checkering on the semi pistol grip and the for stock.
It had silver double set triggers, the bolt body had a jewelled polished finish.
It had nice open iron sights, however I mounted a Tasco 3-9x40 telescopic sight on it, and it was deadly accurate.
I certainly miss that beautiful light handy little rifle. And I thank you for your presentation on the superb, efficient and accurate 222 Remington cartridge.
@@scottfoster9452 sounds like an awesome rifle!
@@hopefulballistics Yes it was indeed. 👍
Love the 222. I have a 1970 Winchester M70 222. Groundhogs hate it!
That’s awesome! Sweet rifle!
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I inherited a 222
I’ve plinked with it a bit
I did get some dies and brass for it awhile back
Looking forward to load for it
That’s awesome! Have fun!
Staying with the .222 bases cartridges, the .221 Remington Fireball gives greater barrel life, less recoil and maximizes efficiency, all while still being extremely accurate. Some of the 22 Hornets I've had seemed to struggle with the accuracy part.
I appreciate the comment
One of my favorite rifles is my Sako L461, which is extremely accurate - even with various factory cartridges.
Nice rifle!
I have a M700, M600, and an o/u combo gun with 12 ga. Love 'em all.😊
That’s cool
Thank you for this video about this nice and accurate cartridge as you said. I shoot it with a CZ 527 varmint. Lapua case, 52 grs HP Hornady and Vihtavuori N130 powder.
At 100 meters, the result is an 0.480 height - 0.261 width MOA - group with a scope without any wind. Nearly boring ;)
With a diopter, it begins a little more tricky.
Next try, 200 meters.
Greetings from France.
Thanks for watching and commenting
I have a Savage 340 B in 222 Remington. It originally had a Weaver 3/4 side mount scope which I still have but now has an adapter with a 3-9 by 38 scope. I hand load and it is a fantastic shooter.
Very nice!
I have a .222 Remington magnum 700 purchased from an old man it’s all authentic as when they first came out it came with leather sling bipod and with a wever scope also in a leather sleeve it is so accurate I love it
That’s cool
When Mike walker designed the triple duece he designed it with 50 grain bullets in mind. So a lot of rifle will shoot dime size groups while 55 grain may shoot nickle size to quarter. I also remember hearing that it had the same dimensions as a 50 bmg just scaled down! Which the 30-06 was the same when designed a scaled down 50 bmg! 50 bmg>30-06>222rem
Very interesting, thanks
50 BMG is an upsized 30-06, not the other way around. 30-06 is from 1906....50 BMG is from about 1920 (put into service in 1921).
@ShaunZimmerman668 I have shot five rounds while bench rested through the same hole at 100 yards with a Remington 700 BDL in Triple 2 with the right 55gr. load. 50gr. has not done as well in my rifle. So I have the rifle and cartridge both designed by Mike Walker. Precision rifle and cartridge. The .223 with the shorter neck is nowhere near as accurate (precise) as the longer neck Triple 2.
"222 Rem " is a handloaders dream. The thing that really hurt it was all the cheap 5.56 brass and surplus ammo, and once that ball started rolling it never stopped. Nice review of a "classic cartridge".
Thanks, I appreciate it!
The Triple Deuce is far from being a "dead cartridge" in France and you can find it in almost any French gunshop. Of course it is mostly considered a varmint hunting cartridge here so that the usual bullet will be a soft point one and will weigh either 50 or 55 gr, but FMJ ammo is also available for shooters. I have a straight pull AR-15 platform in .222 Rem (illustrated on my channel) and it is one of the most enjoyable guns to shoot that I have at home. The .222 Rem being among the cheapest centerfire ammo you can find on the French market, I don't reload, which, in turn, affects the accuracy of my rifle, as I only shoot those cheap factory-made cartridges that I buy at the sports store. That said, accuracy is absolutely correct at 100 m, but surely I would get much tighter groups with match ammunition.
Interesting, thanks.
yo j'ai un AR-15 schmeisser straight pull moi aussi en 222 et oui très précis enfin je sais pas ce que tu a comme arme mais même pas besoin de développement de charge honnêtement enfin moi en tout cas ca groupe très très bien avec des ppu 50 grain soft point les moins chères c'est vraiment nickel :)
@@Salty-Frenchy j'ai une Schmeisser SP15 et j'utilise généralement des Solognac de chez Décath : c'est me semble-t-il la même que la S&B FMJ, mais commercialisée sous la marque de Décathlon. Elle groupe très très bien à 50 m mais les groupements s'élargissent à 100 m, tout en restant "corrects", on va dire.
I have a Remington 788 in 222 it is still a very accurate rifle after all these years one of my favorite rifles
Nice!
I have a 222 Rem. in a 14 inch TC Contender barrel.
Oh wow, that’s cool!
My grandpa handed one down to me for my first deer rifle in a Remington Mohawk. Rifles taken more deer than I could imagine it’s an absolute tack driver although now it’s more of a safe queen
Right on!
From Ireland, Have a 222 remington via CZ527 , usually use 40g. The
I appreciate the comment, thanks for watching!
Yes i have a 222rem model 788 and you are right it's a Accurate Rifle .And it hard to get ammo Thanks love your video.
Thanks for watching
I got a 222 rem in 788 model, a friend sold it to me for $125 like 15 years ago, I love my rifle.
Sweet!
788 was the most underrated gun of all time!!
@@jeffowsley2545to me I don’t care, especially what I paid for it, my rifle is accurate and it works just fine
Shot a many small groups with tripple deuce and varmit, Those short and fat cartriage's PPC and BR are just more consistant for paper. but a 222 is a great round for varmint
Awesome
Savage model 25 thumb hole an a remington model 788 many groundhogs and crows have been taken with these 222
Awesome!
Alaska1andy, I bet that is a fun gun to shoot. Gtsy from MacMan channel.
Definitely
Got one in a howa mini action
Very nice!
I bought my first centerfire rifle in Cavalier ND at a Coast to Coast hardware store 9/72. The Remington 788 was on sale for 99.95$ in a few calibers. I was working at the SafeGuard missile radar site during the construction phase. One of the guys from my area of California said I should pick up the .222 Rem as I wanted something more than a 22rf. That rifle spoiled me for accuracy. In early 73’ I put a Canjar trigger in it and bedded the birch stock. Had a Lyman All American 10x on it until late 80’s when it went into a Lee Six Beavertail glass stock and put a Leupold m8 12x on it. I still have that rifle in that configuration. Could shoot dime groups all day long with varmint 50 gr bullets. Smaller groups with bench or match 52-53 gr bullets. Sierra bullets of choice & most accurate with IMR 4198. It seems to be a mini me of the grand daddy of many cartridges the 7x57 Mauser. I bought a Ruger 77 7x57 in 73’ and is very accurate too. I also have a 17 Rem, & 204 Ruger and had a .221 Fireball back in the 80’s. Going up a step I have a 22-250 & custom 244. My favorite will always be that 100$ 222 788 Rem that can still hold its own after more than fifty years
Great comment, thanks for sharing!
I'm pretty sure it's the cartridge I cut my teeth with reloading. Every few years we head out west after prarie dogs and in between that the trusty 222 claims the odd pest, groundhog, coyote, etc. Such a neat classic cartridge.
That’s cool
I own a sako in 222 rem. Love the rifle and it’s not for sale. I reload for it as it’s hard to find ammo.
Cool, thanks
I have a couple, and it's cool to have them.
Sweet!
I would like a sako in .222 Remington
That would be very nice!
Its a top cartridge, i like inherently accurate cartridges, why takes second best, ifi can have the best, low recoil, not so bad on the ear drums,nice barrel life,and well priced too, and its a classic, dont spook all the animals like a 243, its too loud, better accuracy than 223,what more do i want from a 224 bullet, just❤ it.
Awesome, thanks!
Also the .300 Black out
In my experience the 222 slightly edges out the 223 in accuracy & reload-ability.
Extremely easy to reload & obtain 1/2” or better groups Extremely stable & predictable cartridge.
You will find, the 222 brass, exhibits more uniform case wall thickness, web & flash hole & true shoulder angle.
This contributes to uniform case capacity & ignition.
I suspect the 223 brass suffers due to its mass production & many various manufacturers.
222 is limited production & is hard to find.
The 222’s limited velocity is of no concern to prairie dogs,
They are equally as dead, hit by a 222 as a 223.
In 222, light bullet expansion with soft points, tipped bullets or hollow points, is also remarkably violent & will dismember a light skinned critter into several bite size pieces. The buzzards & the eagles will thank you, for easing their digestion.
222 is king 👑
Great comment, thanks!
222 deadly accurate!
Yes it is!
Hi buddy let me get this straight,, So you're saying since I accidentally bought 222 rem rounds , I can still shoot it out of my 556/223 rifle without any major worries ?? I appreciate your help
No I wouldn’t shoot them. 222 and 223 are different.
I can't figure out how to show my pictures here but I have a 222
What brand?
@@hopefulballistics Tika
Can you fire 222 in a .556 chambered rifle? I purchased 1 box a while back on accident and have no use for it lol.
No don’t. Different lengths and geometry.
It's hard to get any 222 to shoot a poor group almost EVERY combination of components works well. I currently have two a shaw heavy barrel and a Browning high wall
That’s awesome! Thanks!
Can you use military ammo on a 5.56 AR. Thanks.
Yes
30 30 was never s black powder cartridge.
I put a pinned comment in the comments right after uploading the video pointing out the gaffe.
i thought the 222 came from the 30 M1 carbine case, ergo, it it is not a parent case
I’ve never saw a connection between the two, but you could be right. If you look at the 222 it’s just a scaled down 30-06. Similar to how the 50 BMG is a scaled up version.
The .222 is it’s own original design
Good luck finding the ammo for it 😂they’re rare to find
Have 223 predator, model 43 k-hornet and a revelation 225 in 222. They are all prairie dog and ground hog hateful.
Nice!
243 is just better
You think?
I HAVE A 222 SAVAGE 340 BEST GUN EVER MADE AS FAR AS I THINK 1\4 INCH GROUPS ALL DAY LONG
Sweet!