For those curious as to why they put people in hotels it was because they had to go back to the gate and the crew ended up timing out, so they postponed the flight till the next day. It wasn’t because they wanted passengers to relax after what happened lol no airline would spend the money on that
@@AK-me3tt fatigue is one of the leading causes of mishaps. Adrenaline drop, as would have occurred here, is a contributor to fatigue. Rest time requirements (timing out) are there entirely for safety. A fatigued crew may not have avoided a collision!
@@AK-me3tt The max time a crew can work is 15 hours in a day which means that crew had already been working for a long time that day if they timed out. I know it sucks for passengers when it happens but having a tired crew is not safe whatsoever.
There was no miscommunication, the American Airlines flight went the wrong way. They were cleared to cross runway 31L at taxiway K, but they crossed runway 4L instead (apparently without looking). They were also told to stop a number of times on the ground frequency and never responded, likely because they were listening to another frequency or talking to their company when they should have been monitoring ground and maintaining their situational awareness. Way too close! The ATC audio is on the VASAviaton channel.
Yeah, I was going to say the same. Tower was clear as a bell. Not only did they pass 31L/Kilo but they continued to 4L/Juliet and crossed, which wasn't the instructions tower gave. Also... they should have know 4L was the active runway. So, they cross an active runway where they weren't even given permission to do so in the first place. That's beyond miscommunication, that's not paying attention.
@@nelissamonarez399 Why are you telling him, "Okay expert. Sit down"? Did he say something wrong? Do you know something we don't? HamBown was nice enough to provide us information that at lot of these news outlets fail to give us, because unfortunately, news has turned into nothing more than an attempt to get clicks and likes and eyeballs, so they can make more ad dollars. It's not their fault, it's just the nature of the beast. But I ask again, why say "Sit down"?
Delta is not at fault guys! American was given clearance to cross runway 31 L, and decided to cross 4L instead. On the little diagram shown, instead of going straight, they had to turn right and cross the other INACTIVE runway
To put it into perspective, the 777 saw the 737 with 3 seconds to spare. Its a nightmare scenario because the 777 is a "heavy", which means it carries a ton of fuel and a lot of passengers. The worst aircraft disaster to ever happen (Tenerife accident), happened in exactly this manner
If anyone's interested in a thorough video reviewing the Tenerife disaster, check out Mentour Pilot's channel. He does a great job detailing the event and it really puts into perspective how poorly this could have gone.
Yes, I had a similar experience where we were about to land on a runway and an airplane crossed right in front of us and the pilot had to do full throttle and pull up and we could see the airplane right underneath the wings while we were going up to try again. Super scary!
In addition to eyes, there's a pretty good surface radar watching the runways. Except the tower still had to use voice to cancel DL's takeoff clearance.
That happened in Tenerife in the 1970s. Two planes collided while one was trying to take off due to multiple factors (a terrorist attack at the Grand Canaria airport caused a bunch of planes to be diverted to Tenerife so it was crowded, and it was very foggy) and hundreds died.
Thank goodness for The Delta crew, and to Delta for putting the crew and guest in a hotel for the night hopefully to calm down and relax before flying, That's great customer service...
Many years ago on a flight that had to abort landing at the last second, did a flay around and landed a few minutes later. The pilot was so mad because a "small" plane had crossed in front of us. You could tell in his voice. Landing later was as smooth as possible. We left the plane, got our bags and went about our day. Guess we didn't need to go to our "safe" place for a day.
@@davidroman1654 I guess the difference is, it sounds like even the passengers could see what was about to happen ( but didn't happen thanks to alert pilot and enough time to slow down), and really thought they were going to get mangled or killed as they watched helplessly.
@@davidroman1654 idk if ur being condescending....... but well when were paying thousands of dollars to fly and getting charged for every single little thing i deserve a safe place to rest in for free lol
The plane had to go back to the gate and the crew timed out that’s why they put the passengers on a hotel because they have to since they postponed the flight for the next day not to let the passengers calm down before flying again, no airline in the world would spend the money for that
@@nooneyouknow4829 ATC told them where to go, yes. But did not monitor them AND gave DL permission to take off. We’ll find out in 3 years when NTSB releases their finding. =)
@@nooneyouknow4829 from what I understand, Delta decided to brake, whereas AA was told to take a different run way but didn't. So it's not the ATC. It's the quick thinking on Delta that saved the day
I’m not sure whether that guy is insinuating he knew it was a near miss but according to reports no one did and the captain DIDN’T announce it either. As far as the passengers were concerned it was just a standard rejected takeoff. So not sure why he’s giving it the old “My life flashed before my eyes” routine.
Lmao. Guys, you don’t have to see anything - all of the passengers awake knew something was really wrong when they felt sudden, abrupt braking after already starting a take off roll with the engines at full thrust. And “standard rejected takeoff?” Oh yes, this was definitely “standard” from the perspective of an ordinary passenger. How ridiculous
I've always felt the safest flying Delta planes. I love watching how they fly around storms in Atlanta, and they operate so much traffic in ATL; simply amazing to watch.
I like Delta too. They’re not the best (they have some awful policies too, I’m in fact in an email chain trying to get my baggage fee refunded because they cancelled a flight and their refusing to refund) but I do like their safety measures.
Wow! No only averting disaster but responsible enough to understand the need to undertake a trauma debrief of staff and passengers, as well provide safe space for emotional recovery. That is true professional and ethical practice in human service provision. ❤️
@noyb471 Oh yes, I really the way kylie emphasized the fragile narrative around everyone's emotions with a heart emoji. What could be more compassionate?
Yeah. THIS is the level that should cause safe space and on-the-scene counseling... not "Someone I disagree with spoke at my college! We need a trauma tent, counselors on hand and coloring books! 😭"
These delta pilots are amazing! Great immediate reaction times! Shame on American Airlines for that runway incursion! I'm glad that they decided to head back to the gate. I certainly wouldn't be in good enough shape to fly safely after that Great handling by Delta all around at all levels!
@@katwashere194 being a pilot myself I wish that I could make you understand or feel the way I feel but it doesn’t work like that lol. Just like my fear of lobsters. Doesn’t make sense yet I’m terrified of them.
@@diegoramirez8674I wouldn’t say their fear is dumb, driving (or even for some) taking public transport is an everyday thing. There’s always a risk, plane fears are a very real thing, I mean you’re up in the air for Pete’s sakes lol! Everyone has something 🤷🏽♀️
I've listened to exchanges between the tower and captain's here on YT and sometimes the pilots don't listen or communicate properly, I'm glad this was a close call and not a disaster.
Listening to the tapes, it seems flight AAL106 was in their own little world, which is quite worrying. They were instructed to cross 31L at Kilo but proceeded via Juliet across 4L, almost causing a major incident. I'm not sure how this got missed, but I would like to see or know of the outcome and reports of said incident from the pilots.
Pilots have already hired $50.00 an hour attorneys, because they’re cheap AF, to tell them not to speak. The pilots union, on the other hand, has on hand a dozen top notch professionals to protect them.
Oh yes, after untold numbers of experienced airline and FAA personnel were forced out of their jobs due to medical mandates, it's crazy there might be aviation near-accidents.
@@integratedhatespreader lol you’re naive to think that mistakes don’t happen on the job. If they fired every pilot that ever made a mistake there would be no pilots
@@creamdelacreme You're naive to think every pilot makes life threatening mistakes. What if your doctor removes your spleen while operating on your brain and use your excuse? Your line of reasoning is so flawed.
The exact instruction for AA was to cross 31L at K to line up for 4L. They crossed 4L at J and was lining up for 31L. They got the signs and runways mixed up. Everything was adjacent to each other. Maybe they had the map sideways or upsidedown?
I was on a jet ready to depart from the airport in Kansas City. Right before we made the turn onto the runway, our plane braked sharply. A plane was coming in to land on the runway where we would have been if we hadn’t stopped.
Yes why are we still relying on pilots and controllers to see eachother and stop? Surely there could be something on the planes so that the controllers know where they are and can tell if there’s about to be a runway incursion? Top ATC with the binoculars!
AA clearly told to cross 31L and crossed 4L instead - sure there will be a very thorough investigation regarding everything that would have happened to lead up to that moment (fatigue, distractions, etc), but at the end of the day, It's not going to change whose fault it was
Each companies attorneys are very good as are the attorneys working for the unions are very good. In the end they will fire a catering truck driver for causing the mishap.
My first flight ever and this happened to my fiance and myself also. It was so freaking scary. The pilot had to break so hard I saw everyone's heads and necks snap forward and then back again. I'm surprised no one was hurt or sued
Something similar to this happened in tenerife in the 70s except the plane on the run way had already taken off and hit the ground plane with it's landing gear killing over 500 people
Do not fear. These things are happening for a reason. It's a signal we won't be here for longer. Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
The American Airlines (AA106) missed the taxiway to runway 4L to be next to takeoff after Delta Airlines (DL1943)and was headed to runway 31L, the wrong runway. The American Airlines pilot and copilot should have known what the active takeoff runway was.
@@siamimam2109 Think of all the lives the controller and the Delta pilot saved. Also think of how many the American Airlines pilot almost took. At that speed would it have been an explosion from the fuel in the wings killing everyone or do you think they're would have been any survivors?
He could be fired but... he will most likely go through retraining. Airlines can't find enough pilots these days, they're not firing anyone if they can help it.
@@mikehipparchusnewton7436 I totally agree with you. Unfortunately in the corporate world, they refuse to take actions until something catastrophic happens. Not to mention, pilots are the biggest asset of an airliner. Hopefully they do the right thing, but I wont be surprised if they do some bs training and call it a day
The exact same thing happened at Milan Linate Airport on October 8th 2001: tragically, due to thick fog, the departing plane didn’t see the other in time and failed to take off. 118 people died, the worst accident in Italian history… my parents knew two of the victims. Those minutes at takeoff and landing are crucial: if something goes wrong, the consequences are horrific.
1:24 what aircraft has 3 seats on the left and 2 seats on the right side? Last I saw, the B717 has the 3 seats on the right side. Is this a mirror image?
Everyone is out of practice. Unfortinately the break due to Covid doesn't seem to have equated to using that time for personal and professional self improvment, education and skills building. Could have been easily done because everything went online.
@@mef12727 This happens more often since we are now hearing more about this. Ever heard of "accident pyramid”, by H. Heinrich? I'm afraid all of these increased small incidents will eventually lead to one major catastrophic event.
Yes agreed ! And they need to deal with the ones who make errors because they were not paying attention harshly because peoples lives are at stake ! Ridiculous
I still don't understand how the American flight crew waited off to the side to make a couple phone calls and then continued to take off and continue the flight. I find that more of a problem than the initial incident.
The FAA investigation will include every party involved in the incident, both crews, and all Tower controllers. It may even involve the airline's operations departments. I'll guarantee that every single person involved was immediately subjected to drug screening, but that will be negative 99.9999% of the time with professional Airline Pilots. Cut and dry case of "Runway Incursion." One of the crews missed their turn and ended up crossing an active runway without clearance (permission or instructions to do so). This is why every single pilot and tower controller are required to be aware of not only their own movements on the airport, but the position and movements of others, to the best extent possible. Same thing in the air! This is also why the universal language of aviation, by LAW, is English, established in 1951 by the International Civil Aviation Organization for everyone's safety. This is so that ALL air crews can hear, and UNDERSTAND the instructions being given to OTHER airplanes on the ground (and in the air). It is very, very frustrating, and difficult when flying into airspace in places that allow their personal cultural pride to supersede International Aviation LAW! An example is flying into Quebec airspace and various other airspaces in Canada, where they simply thumb their noses at the law and issue air traffic control instructions to local Quebec based aircrews in FRENCH, leaving all non-French speaking aircrews in the vicinity clueless about what instructions were just given to another airliner! What if that airplane was just told to make a collision course turn right across another airplane's path, or maybe to cross a runway right in front of another airplane that is taking off? One set of pilots has no idea incorrect instructions were just issued and the fates of all the people on board are now in the hands of angels! Big risk? Probably not. But UNNECESSARY? Y E S ! Illegal? ABSOLUTELY! To place entire airliners full of human souls at risk, even small risk, out of arrogant cultural pride is completely unacceptable. The display of cultural pride is everyone's right, and is totally natural, and in fact, I'm ALL FOR IT, but not in Air traffic Controlling where that display of pride, places human beings at risk of injury or death, no matter how small that risk is. That's why the law is in place and should be followed. One day, I hate to imagine, but there could easily be a midair between an airliner given its instructions in English (what is SUPPOSED to happen) and another in French, or perhaps Spanish. It's. not supposed to be happening, but it still does. The French or Spanish speaking crew can understand what the other airliner was told to do, but the other airplanes are totally in the dark about what instructions were given to the other airplane.
Many years ago I saw a near miss over the Potomac River one night. One flight coming into National Airport directly at another going out. They were both in the air over the River. The one coming in veered off over DC at the last minute and managed somehow not to hit anything. The one taking off just kept on going the way it was. Scared the heck out of me and in a was on the ground.
@@madridista007 They take off and land in the same direction always. If the runway is East/West and they are landing from the West moving East then those taking off will take off moving East. They never take off one direction and land from the other direction.
I can tell you one thing.. Something like this happens to me, I would need more than a night to calm down. I would never fly again. I’m scared on a good flight. I don’t like stories like this!
In Chicago you could be injured or killed by daily gang crossfire. Does that mean that you will never leave home? Soldiers who survive multiple tours in Afghanistan wind up getting killed locally.
OMG, this is nothing because a decade ago, a Korean airline attempted to land via the Canarsie Approach via 13L. Since it was the pilot's first time using this approach ever and it was night, cloudy, foggy, raining, and windy, the pilots, instead of landing, stated they were making a missed approach with a 747 heavy. OMG, pilots from La Guardia Airport demanded the tower to fly them safely in the pattern away from missed approach Korean 747 flying low, slow, and trying to climb. This is on UA-cam somewhere, but this is scary because the pilots can't see outside because of the clouds, fog, and rain. The tower was minimally operated because it was night time began yelling vectors to prevent two planes from smashing into each other over Queens, Brooklyn, NYC, etc. I guess ATC smoking the night before is not a good idea. It was quiet and routine ATC talking to the planes until the Korean 747 decided to make a missed approach, try to climb, and then state they were low on fuel.
Why would they have to deboard everyone and give them accommodations overnight instead of just taxi-ing around & taking off as planned after this incident?
The near miss probably initiated a protocol that for everybody's safety required that flight to be canceled, therefore accommodations and probably rescheduled flights while the crew and staff are involved in the 'post near accident' protocols and investigation.
I read somewhere that in a case like this the flight crew is automatically put on some kind of suspension pending investigation, even though the Delta pilots did nothing wrong. And so it was then a staffing issue, so they couldn't get another flight crew till the next day.
I read in another forum that the plane has to be checked. Brakes needed to be examined as it was a hard stop. Plus, the pilots probably needed to be debriefed.
The flight crew should document everything ASAP and have a chance to regroup. You don't want them dwelling on the event and not being 100% to perform the flight. I'm more concerned with why did the American Airlines flight continue?
Why do we STILL refer to these events as a "Near Miss"? It's completely absurd. It's a NEAR HIT. George Carlin was making a completely valid point when he explained this years ago. If two planes nearly collide, then they didn't nearly miss...they nearly hit.
@@aswini4222 You, like many people, forgot to capitalize the first word of your statement. There's nothing cool about intentionally doing things incorrectly. As for your reply, care to elaborate? You essentially said nothing...a total non sequitur.
If there isn't already, there should be some sort of computer system in the plane that works in the airport that is always aware of what the plane is doing and where it is, like whether it is taking off on a runway or taxing and so if the computer sees that a plane is about to cross in front of a plane about to take off, it will alert the two planes or something like that. Like how there's anti-collision detection in the sky but for airports.
The most catastrophic aviation disaster involving two B747s in heavy fog happened on the runway involving a KLM and Pan Am in 1977. Impatient pilots combined with perfect storm of events. One on takeoff roll while the other back taxi down same runway. Misunderstood clearance etc. fortunately technology has come a long way in assisting in preventing these events including ASDE. Grateful this turned out as well as it did! Sounds like AAL pilot possibly has a “deviation “ and did not hold short of active runway but possible controller missed a bad “read back.”
All NTSB needs to do is start with the complete communications from the tower. They are literally going to dissect that audio tape and the transcript of communications between the tower, the Delta flight, and the American flight second-by-second. This looks like a bad case of crew resource management, that went sideways.
@@arielmalsireal5453 Turbulence while uncomfortable and possibly scary has never brought down a plane. The same with lightening. Thunderstorms can and will bring down a plane which is why pilots avoid them. In the recent California weather pilots were spending up to an hour dodging thunderstorms. Global Climate change meets Aviation Safety.
For those curious as to why they put people in hotels it was because they had to go back to the gate and the crew ended up timing out, so they postponed the flight till the next day. It wasn’t because they wanted passengers to relax after what happened lol no airline would spend the money on that
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Fk the time out
@@AK-me3tt fatigue is one of the leading causes of mishaps. Adrenaline drop, as would have occurred here, is a contributor to fatigue. Rest time requirements (timing out) are there entirely for safety. A fatigued crew may not have avoided a collision!
Also the brakes need time to cool, so they would have had to wait at least an hour and do some inspections first.
@@AK-me3tt The max time a crew can work is 15 hours in a day which means that crew had already been working for a long time that day if they timed out. I know it sucks for passengers when it happens but having a tired crew is not safe whatsoever.
There was no miscommunication, the American Airlines flight went the wrong way. They were cleared to cross runway 31L at taxiway K, but they crossed runway 4L instead (apparently without looking). They were also told to stop a number of times on the ground frequency and never responded, likely because they were listening to another frequency or talking to their company when they should have been monitoring ground and maintaining their situational awareness. Way too close! The ATC audio is on the VASAviaton channel.
Yeah, I was going to say the same. Tower was clear as a bell. Not only did they pass 31L/Kilo but they continued to 4L/Juliet and crossed, which wasn't the instructions tower gave. Also... they should have know 4L was the active runway. So, they cross an active runway where they weren't even given permission to do so in the first place. That's beyond miscommunication, that's not paying attention.
THANKS FOR REAL NEWS. Not this spin it bs.
Thank you for this clear explanation. 💕
Okay expert. Sit down.
@@nelissamonarez399
Why are you telling him, "Okay expert. Sit down"? Did he say something wrong? Do you know something we don't? HamBown was nice enough to provide us information that at lot of these news outlets fail to give us, because unfortunately, news has turned into nothing more than an attempt to get clicks and likes and eyeballs, so they can make more ad dollars. It's not their fault, it's just the nature of the beast.
But I ask again, why say "Sit down"?
My Son is a Pilot for Delta and absolutely hates JFK. He’s flown in and out of there for years and it’s always chaos. Fly safe everyone!✈️👨✈️✈️
Why jfk specifically? I fly out of there every month 😪
You just got your son fired😹
JFK is ancient airport
Avoid JFK.
Got it.
Thanks!
what do you expect? it is in NYC! just like heathrow, LAX, and other major cities... its not like you are in a remote country side airport
Delta is not at fault guys! American was given clearance to cross runway 31 L, and decided to cross 4L instead. On the little diagram shown, instead of going straight, they had to turn right and cross the other INACTIVE runway
To put it into perspective, the 777 saw the 737 with 3 seconds to spare. Its a nightmare scenario because the 777 is a "heavy", which means it carries a ton of fuel and a lot of passengers. The worst aircraft disaster to ever happen (Tenerife accident), happened in exactly this manner
If anyone's interested in a thorough video reviewing the Tenerife disaster, check out Mentour Pilot's channel. He does a great job detailing the event and it really puts into perspective how poorly this could have gone.
Well the Tenerife accident happened because of heavy fog.
@@j.a.3138 ...well yes, and disregard of best practices or miscommunication.
I’ve been on an American flight where this happened. It was quite scary. Whenever I fly, there’s a little part of me that’s worried about it now.
You can thank the vaccine mandates and brain fog, these situations will only increase now.
The rejected takeoff has to be aggressive
@@GnartotheBone wow
Yes, I had a similar experience where we were about to land on a runway and an airplane crossed right in front of us and the pilot had to do full throttle and pull up and we could see the airplane right underneath the wings while we were going up to try again. Super scary!
@GnartotheBone I have had lots of symptoms that lasted 6months or more... brain fog and losing my hair... hair collecting in the drain now
If it had been dark and foggy it could have been a whole different story.
In addition to eyes, there's a pretty good surface radar watching the runways. Except the tower still had to use voice to cancel DL's takeoff clearance.
Don't know about foggy but it was at 8 something pm.
Tenerife flashbacks. Scary.
That happened in Tenerife in the 1970s. Two planes collided while one was trying to take off due to multiple factors (a terrorist attack at the Grand Canaria airport caused a bunch of planes to be diverted to Tenerife so it was crowded, and it was very foggy) and hundreds died.
This is terrifying. Bless those brakes and the pilot that used them. 🙏🏻
Thank goodness for The Delta crew, and to Delta for putting the crew and guest in a hotel for the night hopefully to calm down and relax before flying, That's great customer service...
Yup, American Airlines doesn't care about its customers at all. Delta all the way
Many years ago on a flight that had to abort landing at the last second, did a flay around and landed a few minutes later. The pilot was so mad because a "small" plane had crossed in front of us. You could tell in his voice. Landing later was as smooth as possible. We left the plane, got our bags and went about our day. Guess we didn't need to go to our "safe" place for a day.
@@davidroman1654 I guess the difference is, it sounds like even the passengers could see what was about to happen ( but didn't happen thanks to alert pilot and enough time to slow down), and really thought they were going to get mangled or killed as they watched helplessly.
@@davidroman1654 idk if ur being condescending....... but well when were paying thousands of dollars to fly and getting charged for every single little thing i deserve a safe place to rest in for free lol
The plane had to go back to the gate and the crew timed out that’s why they put the passengers on a hotel because they have to since they postponed the flight for the next day not to let the passengers calm down before flying again, no airline in the world would spend the money for that
The calm precision in communication between pilots and controllers is admirable. Panic would not have helped. Thank goodness tragedy was avoided.
Great work, Delta! Thankful for no injuries!
@ganatamer9686 à
you mean great work ATC?
@@nooneyouknow4829 ATC told them where to go, yes. But did not monitor them AND gave DL permission to take off. We’ll find out in 3 years when NTSB releases their finding. =)
@@brentbeacham9691 DL had clearance b/4 the deviation. the monitoring is what saved the day.
@@nooneyouknow4829 from what I understand, Delta decided to brake, whereas AA was told to take a different run way but didn't. So it's not the ATC. It's the quick thinking on Delta that saved the day
Why do news have to make everything so dramatic. Mentioning that it takes place on Friday the 13th doesn’t add anything to the situation.
Superstition
Jason Voorhees was the traffic controller
@@slothmarathonpromotions2470 😂😂😂
I’m not sure whether that guy is insinuating he knew it was a near miss but according to reports no one did and the captain DIDN’T announce it either.
As far as the passengers were concerned it was just a standard rejected takeoff.
So not sure why he’s giving it the old “My life flashed before my eyes” routine.
Why was I thinking the same thing? lol Like was this dude in the cockpit? Since when do passengers get a front-facing view out of the aircraft? 🤔😂
Lmao. Guys, you don’t have to see anything - all of the passengers awake knew something was really wrong when they felt sudden, abrupt braking after already starting a take off roll with the engines at full thrust.
And “standard rejected takeoff?” Oh yes, this was definitely “standard” from the perspective of an ordinary passenger. How ridiculous
@@SpontaneityJD you don’t travel much do you. Maybe you went to the same drama school as this guy…..
I've always felt the safest flying Delta planes. I love watching how they fly around storms in Atlanta, and they operate so much traffic in ATL; simply amazing to watch.
They use the same planes as the other airlines
@@TysonIke, they have different mechanics and pilots, though.
I like Delta too. They’re not the best (they have some awful policies too, I’m in fact in an email chain trying to get my baggage fee refunded because they cancelled a flight and their refusing to refund) but I do like their safety measures.
I pay extra for that delta peace of mind and customer service
So glad that everyone is safe!!
I’m glad everyone is ok
I think it was George Carlin:
"Isn't it technically a NEAR-HIT when they DON'T collide?...
A Near MISS...is a HIT!.....🤣
He was so funny. Sure could use his humor during these past few years
I’m getting IN the plane. Evil Kinevel can get ON the plane.
It was near, but they missed. That's the point.
“It’s a NEAR-HIT! A COLLISION is a “near-miss”!
It’s amazing how many dumbasses don’t understand what near miss means, I guess George was one of them!🤣🤦♂️
Wow! No only averting disaster but responsible enough to understand the need to undertake a trauma debrief of staff and passengers, as well provide safe space for emotional recovery. That is true professional and ethical practice in human service provision. ❤️
@noyb471 Oh yes, I really the way kylie emphasized the fragile narrative around everyone's emotions with a heart emoji. What could be more compassionate?
Yeah. THIS is the level that should cause safe space and on-the-scene counseling... not "Someone I disagree with spoke at my college! We need a trauma tent, counselors on hand and coloring books! 😭"
@tu sabe ♡^ well posted
The is no need for trauma debrief, why not just take off again and save the time and money
What they really needed was a change of underwear ;-)
These delta pilots are amazing! Great immediate reaction times! Shame on American Airlines for that runway incursion! I'm glad that they decided to head back to the gate. I certainly wouldn't be in good enough shape to fly safely after that
Great handling by Delta all around at all levels!
Come on. What ? Wait and see the tapes? JFK's the nightmare to fly out of! How do you know it was America's fault? SHAME ON YOU LOL
Detroit is my home airport and I’m glad it is a hub for Delta
And I wonder why I have anxiety taking a plane. Even if , statistically, it is the safest way to travel
Same here. I think it’s the lack of control? Or when it’s bad it’s really bad? I hate flying.
I mean it’s kinda dumb if I’m being honest. You likely take Ubers, trains, busses, which are far more dangerous, yet you don’t worry about it.
Plus it’s also out of your control
@@katwashere194 being a pilot myself I wish that I could make you understand or feel the way I feel but it doesn’t work like that lol. Just like my fear of lobsters. Doesn’t make sense yet I’m terrified of them.
@@diegoramirez8674I wouldn’t say their fear is dumb, driving (or even for some) taking public transport is an everyday thing. There’s always a risk, plane fears are a very real thing, I mean you’re up in the air for Pete’s sakes lol! Everyone has something 🤷🏽♀️
I've listened to exchanges between the tower and captain's here on YT and sometimes the pilots don't listen or communicate properly, I'm glad this was a close call and not a disaster.
Pilot did a great job
Listening to the tapes, it seems flight AAL106 was in their own little world, which is quite worrying. They were instructed to cross 31L at Kilo but proceeded via Juliet across 4L, almost causing a major incident.
I'm not sure how this got missed, but I would like to see or know of the outcome and reports of said incident from the pilots.
Called VACCINE.............
Pilots have already hired $50.00 an hour attorneys, because they’re cheap AF, to tell them not to speak. The pilots union, on the other hand, has on hand a dozen top notch professionals to protect them.
@@WalkingnluvShortage of American pilots it seems.
Glad everyone is ok , it’s crazy that something like this could have happened
Oh yes, after untold numbers of experienced airline and FAA personnel were forced out of their jobs due to medical mandates, it's crazy there might be aviation near-accidents.
@@kiwismurf4536 Thanks! Glad I cheered you up.
Im glad everyone is okay
It almost became KLM and Pan Am in Tenerif again. Luckily, it was not fogging at the time of the Delta taking off.
Those people responsible needs super intensive training before they can go back to work there..please...
The people responsible needs their license revoked and should be criminally charged.
@@integratedhatespreader lol you’re naive to think that mistakes don’t happen on the job. If they fired every pilot that ever made a mistake there would be no pilots
@@creamdelacreme You're naive to think every pilot makes life threatening mistakes. What if your doctor removes your spleen while operating on your brain and use your excuse? Your line of reasoning is so flawed.
So glad nothing serious happened!
If only NBC could find someone to sanity check the subtitles before posting them. "Cancel takeoff plans"? How about "cancel takeoff clearance"?
0:02 How does it go from "Cancel takeoff clearance" to "Cancel takeoff plans"
The exact instruction for AA was to cross 31L at K to line up for 4L. They crossed 4L at J and was lining up for 31L. They got the signs and runways mixed up. Everything was adjacent to each other. Maybe they had the map sideways or upsidedown?
I was on a jet ready to depart from the airport in Kansas City. Right before we made the turn onto the runway, our plane braked sharply. A plane was coming in to land on the runway where we would have been if we hadn’t stopped.
We don't want Tenerife's disaster again, but this was a close call.
This happens occasionally?? Omg what?
If anyone is curious about what could have happened, look up Tenerlife 😢
In this day and age, aren't there any cross traffic visual signals for both planes on the runways?
What do you think all those lights, lines and numbers are for?
Yes why are we still relying on pilots and controllers to see eachother and stop? Surely there could be something on the planes so that the controllers know where they are and can tell if there’s about to be a runway incursion? Top ATC with the binoculars!
@@johnh8705 who knew the pilots were almost blind, deaf, and dumb?
@Batters56 Yes, machine to machine AI for taxiing, take off, and landing operations.
AA clearly told to cross 31L and crossed 4L instead - sure there will be a very thorough investigation regarding everything that would have happened to lead up to that moment (fatigue, distractions, etc), but at the end of the day, It's not going to change whose fault it was
Each companies attorneys are very good as are the attorneys working for the unions are very good. In the end they will fire a catering truck driver for causing the mishap.
I'm surprised we are still reliant on verbal radio communications for this.
This almost reminded me with KLM and Pan Am..
Tenerife?
Let's hope what happened at Tenerife never happens again.
@@MadroneHumanRights Tenerife happened because of a series of events that are not likely to be duplicated.
@@deepthinker999 Im aware of what happened at Tenerife. Not sure of the point of your comment.
Near-miss you mean a near-hit unless you were expecting them to collide..
That’s god it happened on a day when there was good visibility otherwise this could’ve been Tenerife 2.0
Like George Carlin said, it wasn't a near miss, it was a near hit!
Yeah, I always wondered why they're called near-misses when they're just misses. Wouldn't a collision actually be a near-miss?
@@dave23024yup.
Collision= hit
No collision= near hit
My first flight ever and this happened to my fiance and myself also. It was so freaking scary. The pilot had to break so hard I saw everyone's heads and necks snap forward and then back again. I'm surprised no one was hurt or sued
Flying is getting more troublesome day by day
Amen Thank God no one was hurt
Something similar to this happened in tenerife in the 70s except the plane on the run way had already taken off and hit the ground plane with it's landing gear killing over 500 people
So much is happening these days. It's low key scary
It's more correct to say, "The Internet allows us to be more aware of these things, which have always been happening, than we used to."
Pilot not listening orders from
airport tower control
Do not fear. These things are happening for a reason. It's a signal we won't be here for longer.
Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
I wouldn't want to spend a night in a hotel because of someone's mistake. Put me on the next flight!
Facts!
right? like take me to my destination tf 😭
The American Airlines (AA106) missed the taxiway to runway 4L to be next to takeoff after Delta Airlines (DL1943)and was headed to runway 31L, the wrong runway. The American Airlines pilot and copilot should have known what the active takeoff runway was.
This is a great ad for delta. We have the better pilots
As children we often told to look left and right and left again before crossing a road
Do you think the American Airlines pilot is going to get written up or fired for that?
A 30min educational video and he’s back in action 😂
@@siamimam2109 Think of all the lives the controller and the Delta pilot saved. Also think of how many the American Airlines pilot almost took. At that speed would it have been an explosion from the fuel in the wings killing everyone or do you think they're would have been any survivors?
He could be fired but... he will most likely go through retraining. Airlines can't find enough pilots these days, they're not firing anyone if they can help it.
@@mikehipparchusnewton7436 I totally agree with you. Unfortunately in the corporate world, they refuse to take actions until something catastrophic happens. Not to mention, pilots are the biggest asset of an airliner. Hopefully they do the right thing, but I wont be surprised if they do some bs training and call it a day
Maybe not, they're short on staff.
Yeah let’s interview the passengers who had no idea what was goin on and not the ATC/FAA reps
The exact same thing happened at Milan Linate Airport on October 8th 2001: tragically, due to thick fog, the departing plane didn’t see the other in time and failed to take off. 118 people died, the worst accident in Italian history… my parents knew two of the victims. Those minutes at takeoff and landing are crucial: if something goes wrong, the consequences are horrific.
That’s terrifying thank God nothing bad happened 🙏🏼
1:24 what aircraft has 3 seats on the left and 2 seats on the right side? Last I saw, the B717 has the 3 seats on the right side. Is this a mirror image?
So almost Tenerife 2.0 😮😰
Is it just me or does it seem like an increase in mistakes like this with air travel?
you don't even know how often this occurs. We just don't hear about it.
Everyone is out of practice. Unfortinately the break due to Covid doesn't seem to have equated to using that time for personal and professional self improvment, education and skills building. Could have been easily done because everything went online.
@@mef12727 This happens more often since we are now hearing more about this. Ever heard of "accident pyramid”, by H. Heinrich? I'm afraid all of these increased small incidents will eventually lead to one major catastrophic event.
Vaccinated pilots dropping dead mid fly, never reported....
It happens often, get on the email list for flight radar 24, they document lots of scary situations like this.
Almost did a Tenerife
What is going on at the airport's? It seems like there is more plain and airport issues than normal lately.
It's all part of the plan to eliminate air travel. It's what the Democrats want.
Yes agreed ! And they need to deal with the ones who make errors because they were not paying attention harshly because peoples lives are at stake ! Ridiculous
Short staffed.
Good job of that pilot making the quick call to hit the brakes 🇺🇸👍🏻
This is the American Airlines crew's fault
I still don't understand how the American flight crew waited off to the side to make a couple phone calls and then continued to take off and continue the flight. I find that more of a problem than the initial incident.
Thank god. This is really a near miss.
Could've been a Near Hit !!!!!!!!
Watching this while waiting to board my plane....🙄
We had enough aviation dramas in the last 30 days, plus the Nepal crashed, and then this close call!!!😱😱😱
Near miss is not a phrase..its a crash..should be a near crash
The FAA investigation will include every party involved in the incident, both crews, and all Tower controllers. It may even involve the airline's operations departments. I'll guarantee that every single person involved was immediately subjected to drug screening, but that will be negative 99.9999% of the time with professional Airline Pilots. Cut and dry case of "Runway Incursion." One of the crews missed their turn and ended up crossing an active runway without clearance (permission or instructions to do so). This is why every single pilot and tower controller are required to be aware of not only their own movements on the airport, but the position and movements of others, to the best extent possible. Same thing in the air!
This is also why the universal language of aviation, by LAW, is English, established in 1951 by the International Civil Aviation Organization for everyone's safety. This is so that ALL air crews can hear, and UNDERSTAND the instructions being given to OTHER airplanes on the ground (and in the air). It is very, very frustrating, and difficult when flying into airspace in places that allow their personal cultural pride to supersede International Aviation LAW! An example is flying into Quebec airspace and various other airspaces in Canada, where they simply thumb their noses at the law and issue air traffic control instructions to local Quebec based aircrews in FRENCH, leaving all non-French speaking aircrews in the vicinity clueless about what instructions were just given to another airliner!
What if that airplane was just told to make a collision course turn right across another airplane's path, or maybe to cross a runway right in front of another airplane that is taking off? One set of pilots has no idea incorrect instructions were just issued and the fates of all the people on board are now in the hands of angels! Big risk? Probably not. But UNNECESSARY? Y E S ! Illegal? ABSOLUTELY! To place entire airliners full of human souls at risk, even small risk, out of arrogant cultural pride is completely unacceptable. The display of cultural pride is everyone's right, and is totally natural, and in fact, I'm ALL FOR IT, but not in Air traffic Controlling where that display of pride, places human beings at risk of injury or death, no matter how small that risk is. That's why the law is in place and should be followed.
One day, I hate to imagine, but there could easily be a midair between an airliner given its instructions in English (what is SUPPOSED to happen) and another in French, or perhaps Spanish. It's. not supposed to be happening, but it still does. The French or Spanish speaking crew can understand what the other airliner was told to do, but the other airplanes are totally in the dark about what instructions were given to the other airplane.
Many years ago I saw a near miss over the Potomac River one night. One flight coming into National Airport directly at another going out. They were both in the air over the River. The one coming in veered off over DC at the last minute and managed somehow not to hit anything. The one taking off just kept on going the way it was. Scared the heck out of me and in a was on the ground.
hmm...i thought the take offs and landing happen on the opposite sides of the run way
You mean a near hit, right? A collision is a near miss.
@@madridista007 They take off and land in the same direction always. If the runway is East/West and they are landing from the West moving East then those taking off will take off moving East. They never take off one direction and land from the other direction.
TCAS ???
Scary, but thank goodness no accident.
I can tell you one thing.. Something like this happens to me, I would need more than a night to calm down. I would never fly again. I’m scared on a good flight. I don’t like stories like this!
I flew Delta out of JFK a few months ago so it could have been me.
In Chicago you could be injured or killed by daily gang crossfire. Does that mean that you will never leave home? Soldiers who survive multiple tours in Afghanistan wind up getting killed locally.
Thanks goodness no one’s hurt
They playin too much with these airline tickets, passengers and employees
What is wrong! The airlines are off the chain! No one should fly!
I would not want to fly into that insane airport.
OMG, this is nothing because a decade ago, a Korean airline attempted to land via the Canarsie Approach via 13L. Since it was the pilot's first time using this approach ever and it was night, cloudy, foggy, raining, and windy, the pilots, instead of landing, stated they were making a missed approach with a 747 heavy. OMG, pilots from La Guardia Airport demanded the tower to fly them safely in the pattern away from missed approach Korean 747 flying low, slow, and trying to climb.
This is on UA-cam somewhere, but this is scary because the pilots can't see outside because of the clouds, fog, and rain. The tower was minimally operated because it was night time began yelling vectors to prevent two planes from smashing into each other over Queens, Brooklyn, NYC, etc.
I guess ATC smoking the night before is not a good idea.
It was quiet and routine ATC talking to the planes until the Korean 747 decided to make a missed approach, try to climb, and then state they were low on fuel.
A few years ago, a Korean airliner crushlanded on SFO, on a completely clear day
@@kgan4733asiana, but yes it is still a south korean airline
One moment you’re alive. The next dead. You just never know what you’re pushed through deaths door
In other words, nothing happened. Everything is fine and the systems in place worked.
You know, I once had a pilot told me, "if you knew how many incursions occurs and near missed you'd stop flying. " Huh?
Try hanging out with smarter people.
@@28704joe That's not you, of course!!
Why would they have to deboard everyone and give them accommodations overnight instead of just taxi-ing around & taking off as planned after this incident?
The near miss probably initiated a protocol that for everybody's safety required that flight to be canceled, therefore accommodations and probably rescheduled flights while the crew and staff are involved in the 'post near accident' protocols and investigation.
I read somewhere that in a case like this the flight crew is automatically put on some kind of suspension pending investigation, even though the Delta pilots did nothing wrong.
And so it was then a staffing issue, so they couldn't get another flight crew till the next day.
I read in another forum that the plane has to be checked. Brakes needed to be examined as it was a hard stop. Plus, the pilots probably needed to be debriefed.
@@mace2m431 that makes a lot of sense....I imagine it would be like using an e-brake on a car but on a much bigger scale.
The flight crew should document everything ASAP and have a chance to regroup. You don't want them dwelling on the event and not being 100% to perform the flight.
I'm more concerned with why did the American Airlines flight continue?
Anyone know if the DL ac got to V1?
then...Rotate! I doubt they got to V1, but def a hard stop when they saw the AmAir plane.
Friday the 13th always surprises lol
Something is going on
Weirdness is going on
Why do we STILL refer to these events as a "Near Miss"? It's completely absurd. It's a NEAR HIT. George Carlin was making a completely valid point when he explained this years ago. If two planes nearly collide, then they didn't nearly miss...they nearly hit.
It’s a MISS that was NEAR. Not a miss that was far. The words are just said backwards.
there are two ways of holding your nose...
@@nsaterroristbomber66669 MISS means you are supposed to catch something but you didn't. But 2 planes are not supposed to "catch" each other!
@@aswini4222 You, like many people, forgot to capitalize the first word of your statement. There's nothing cool about intentionally doing things incorrectly. As for your reply, care to elaborate? You essentially said nothing...a total non sequitur.
@@rocketsfan6116 said more than you, Dunning-Kruger boy
this was about to be Tenerife all over again but in 2023
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing... !!! Any takeoff you live to talk about is a good takeoff... !!!
If there isn't already, there should be some sort of computer system in the plane that works in the airport that is always aware of what the plane is doing and where it is, like whether it is taking off on a runway or taxing and so if the computer sees that a plane is about to cross in front of a plane about to take off, it will alert the two planes or something like that. Like how there's anti-collision detection in the sky but for airports.
Like Ground Level TCAS. I thought that Ground Radar was already implemented. Overseas not always the case.
This remind me of the Pan Am the Dutch plane crash on the runway
The most catastrophic aviation disaster involving two B747s in heavy fog happened on the runway involving a KLM and Pan Am in 1977. Impatient pilots combined with perfect storm of events. One on takeoff roll while the other back taxi down same runway. Misunderstood clearance etc. fortunately technology has come a long way in assisting in preventing these events including ASDE. Grateful this turned out as well as it did!
Sounds like AAL pilot possibly has a “deviation “ and did not hold short of active runway but possible controller missed a bad “read back.”
Almost turn out to be disaster just like what happened in Tenerife Airport between KLM and Pan Am
So American didn't issue an apology? Seems they were at fault.
The plane stopped 1000 feet before reaching the other aircraft. Not really a terrifying near miss. 🙄
It’s cancel takeoff clearance, not cancel takeoff plans.
Thank you sharing.
Oh my goodness! Thank goodness that Delta flight crew was on the ball. American Airlines needs to provide an explanation asap, something is off here.
They could have repeated history💀
All NTSB needs to do is start with the complete communications from the tower. They are literally going to dissect that audio tape and the transcript of communications between the tower, the Delta flight, and the American flight second-by-second.
This looks like a bad case of crew resource management, that went sideways.
Thank God a collision was averted. We did not need to repeat the trajedy at Tenerife.
American Airlines has the Worst Safety Record on Earth.
Indeed. So Many Turbulence Or Sabotage Afterwards
@@arielmalsireal5453 Turbulence while uncomfortable and possibly scary has never brought down a plane. The same with lightening. Thunderstorms can and will bring down a plane which is why pilots avoid them. In the recent California weather pilots were spending up to an hour dodging thunderstorms. Global Climate change meets Aviation Safety.
Tenerife kinda scenario no fog though