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Zoom Q2n Scene Modes Testing
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- Опубліковано 19 лис 2016
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Equipment:
Yamaha Drums (Stage Custom Birch)
14x13, 22x17
14x5.5 Copper Nouveau Snare
Saluda Cymbals (Glory Series):
14" Medium Fusion Hats
16" Medium Thin Crash
Yamaha 9500 strap drive pedal, Rock N Sock Throne
Wow. Great drummer.
Thanks!
awesome video, great option for recording live and the sound is surprisingly good!
Thanks! I agree - the sound on this thing is great. The video is also pretty good. It's worth the money IMO.
Hello there!
Thanks a lot for putting this video together. The Q2n looks and sounds great,definitely worth the money. The strange rainbow which appears is caused of the non use of the lens hood. In case you didn't purchase the accessory package for the Q2n get it and put the hood on it will eliminate the effect. Having said that I have the Q4n and Q8 and both recorders are equipped with the same lens like the Q2n,I always use the hood when filming.
Thanks again for spending your time creating this video!
Thanks for watching! Can you direct me to where you found the lens hood? The accessory package I found doesn't seem to include one. I think it's very poor support on Zoom's part if something like that is not included but basically required for a good shot indoors. That's unlike what I've seen from them in the past. I've got another video posting in a day or so where it's really bad.
Redeye Percussion You are welcome!
I just watched your latest video, great job again! I can't direct you as at the moment apart from the fact that is referred on their site it's not available yet but very soon hopefully.
I am getting one Q2n soon and looking forward purchasing the Q2n accessory package too. The video quality in this video is quite good despite the appearance of the rainbow effect but please be patient until the accessory package is released. I believe if someone experiments a bit trying different lighting scene modes will be able to achieve really good quality video. Thanks again for all your effort putting these videos together.
I have just heard back from a tech at Zoom about this issue. His response was this:
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I received a response from our engineers in Japan who confirmed this is normal operation for video cameras in certain lighting situations.
If the fluorescent light is close or pointing toward the lens, this flare or something similar could occur.
Our upcoming accessory pack for the Q2n includes a lens hood which will significantly prevent and reduce these types of effects.
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So it looks like the lens hood is the way to go. I have asked if it will be available separately from an accessory package since it really should have been included for free with the camera like every other lens sold for SLR cameras.
Redeye Percussion Hello there!
Thanks a lot for informing me. The guys at zoom are great and their response sounds quite reasonable to me. Hopefully the accessory package will soon be available and will sort things out regarding the rainbow effect. You are right saying that the lens hood and the wind shield should at least be included with the Q2n but there is nothing we can do about it apart from waiting... We love zoom that's the thing! Thanks again,cheers!
I agree. I'm not happy about paying for the lens hood since every camera lens manufacturer includes them with the lens purchase, but I guess I have no other choice. I'm just impatient waiting for the kit.
Bro, wowww is the audio really just from the zoom q2n ?
Great video btw :D :D
that's how this product should be demoed! :D Surprisingly good audio quality tbh
Man I agree about this constant dumbing down of settings. Yes, some people don't yet know how to work the settings on things. Making a bunch of random scene/presets up usually 1. makes sure they never learn and 2. makes sure no one gets good results because you're essentially guessing when you make a selection. Ugh. Please manufacturers, leave one space for custom/manual settings!
Wish you would have tested this in low light level. The amount of light your recording with there is nothing like what we musicians generally get at actual gigs.
Here are several with my band under stage lighting conditions:
ua-cam.com/video/5_ZwgCA8AY8/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/_mNkyz24RFA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/36dsrfyUPvU/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/JjjJb4B0D9Q/v-deo.html
Hi. Thanks for that but what are each of the video profiles you used? They all look the same to me if I'm being honest.
BassPlayerAvailable Those are all the same. It's the rehearsal studio setting. That works best for the LED setup my band uses, which is 2 x 4 piece par 64 racks.
Thanks for the review. Great to see the settings back to back. P.S. woohoo Yamaha stage customs are awesome :)
Use AA Energizer Lithium. I recorded about 2hrs and 20min. The battery level never dropped. Plus they’re guaranteed to never leak and work in extreme conditions. So try that before using a power bank. If you have a USB outlet then use that of course.
Thanks for the info. I tried those as well and I got about 1.5 hours before they were down to 1/3 on the battery indicator. These things seems pretty inconsistent from unit to unit.
Thank you for your knowledge
What are you using as a stand for the zoom q2n?
THANK YOU 🙏
nice !
what is the distance from camera to object ?
if we move into 10 meter and use external sound to miccrophone jack, can we still get good picture ?
Thanks. I'm very curious about this camera for some applications. Some of those settings look kinda strange, he he. Overall great camera quality though! Better than I thought.
And the mic sounds great, doesn't it.
Regarding not using in-camera digital zoom, I'm not sure you've tested it or if it's just your assumption... but some cameras, when they do digital zoom, they actually change the read area of the sensor, which is usually capable of much higher resolution. So an in-camera zoom a lot of times yields a better result than post zoom these days.
I just got the Zoom Q8 its a fair camera for video as long as you don't use it as a webcam. Using it as a webcam induces a lot of noise. Especially if you zoom in. Not really a fan of the whole "wide angle" aka action camera look. However, its a bit better from a standalone process (live gigs and plugging up mics into the Zoom). I don't think the encoders aren't up to par with my Logictech c920 (yes that old 1080p webcam). Especially if you use the outside settings you lose frames (and gain noise)and can't adjust them manually. It's also worth noting that all the Zoom camera are the same :(.. Heck there is a video someone with an iphone vs zoom video and the iphone is a billion times better with color..
Thanks for watching! I have not tested the digital vs post production zoom with this camera. I just assumed the old rules still applied to more modern cameras. When I get a chance, I will do that testing and post a video. I am very impressed with the mic, but I am also used to Zoom products all sounding good, so I'm not surprised. Hopefully I will get a chance to test out some of these modes in their intended situations. Take care.
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I agree that the usefulness of this camera is very dependent on the situation. The thing that I like the most is that you can place it where it will yield a good sound (up close) and still get a decent field of view. With the Q3HD, the lens was way too long for that. I also agree that an iPhone has a way better picture than the zoom stuff, but the sound quality is not there, and who wants to fill up their non-removable memory with music videos? Also, the mounting difficulties can be a challenge. Thanks for watching and take care!
Not sure what I think of the video quality but the mic capture is excellent
To deal with Glare from lights or the sun, I'VE GOT THE ANSWER!!!! All you need is Velcro Strips with an Adhesive Backing. As the Q2n Lens sticks out about 1/8th of an inch, apply a narrow strip of fuzzy velcro around the lens. Then using a flexible plastic lid from a can of Coffee or whatever, cut it to the shape of the letter D, creating a shade similar to those on Traffic Lights. Applying prickly Velcro to the flat edge, press it to the fuzzy Velcro, and Bingo!
That's the best solution I've heard. The lens cap barely stays on and will be lost pretty soon. Thanks!
Very helpful. Ordered one!
You won't regret it. Totally worth the money. Thanks for watching!
G'day Shane..
Towards the end where you say "Cut it" for when time to up load on Social media.
What is the process for up loading? Is it settings in the actual camera to Up load straight onto Facebook, UA-cam, Insta etc?
For all my uploading, I edit the audio and then use that wav file in Adobe Premiere Elements, lining it up with the video. After that, I upload from my laptop. UA-cam and Instagram both have a built in uploader right in their interface. I’m have never uploaded video I didn’t edit first, so I’m not sure how that works, sorry.
Nice video,
I`m a drummer too, I don`t think I have ever seen anyone play that long with out opening and closing the hi hat with their left foot. You either have remarkable self control ,or don`t really need to haul the hats around lol , Nice beats for sure thanks for the info.
how many minutes i can record on this 2 batteries
Great Video thanks for using the actual camera to record
You're welcome! I never understand the unboxing videos of cameras where you get no actual test footage. That's all I'm ever interested in. I can read the specs and look at pictures if I need that information. Take care.
Exactly that's why these videos extremely perfect,fun to watch and well appreciated many blessings to you with your art and much prosperity.
God bless you.
When I used it on my studio with no day light the image is not clear.. I tried lighting the room as much as possible but still… does it happen to anyone ? Thank you for the video!
Great video! you get right to it!
Thanks! I have a few with this camera, so no chit-chat!
recently bought this and cant figure out why the sound is so low?? when i play the file on my mac its really low, any advice please? thank you
Was that lens flair fixed some how? Because it can obviously be seen in all the settings you performed it in.
The only fix was getting the lens hood, which really should have been included in the first place. I can't believe they did not see that flare in testing.
Help !!! What camera do fellow musician's reccommend for recording live gigs with loud system. ???
How far can u zoom on this camera?
Fisheye only?
Just received and tried my Zoom Q2n in very low light in my rehearsal room. Video quality is really bad. So grainy and not sharp. Disappointed in the video quality so far. Also after I transferred my video file to my computer only the audio would play. I was using Windows media player. Did some research and found QuickTime was recommended. So download this and the video did play but very very grainy and terrible. I have always used my IPhone for recording and the videos are always nice and sharp. Any ideas appreciated.
Sadly, the low light performance is not all that good. The same thing happens with my GoPros, so I don't blame Zoom too much. The iPhone shoots great video, but the audio is pretty average, so there a tradeoff there. Your best bet is a GoPro and a separate good audio recorder, but that's some serious money.
cool man,,thanks for your sharing...i like zoom product :)
Thanks for watching. Hopefully this is helpfull.
Hi , good video , can I record in one file with the Q2n with micro SDXC superior to 64go ? Q2n-4k has this feature but Q2n ? This feature is important for me .
Thanks
Super helpful thanks!
You're welcome - thanks for watching.
Helpful. Thank you!
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
Could some somebody help me out , i have the zoom Q2n4k and video only comes out 1080ish. My wifes iphone shoots better quality than this so i think im doing something wrong? How can i record video in 4k resolution? Thanks too all!
Hi guys! My q2n videos when downloaded to my pc lags and doesn't match up with the audio. Is this because the micro sd is to slow?
No - it's because Windows machines don't play nice with .mov files (which were developed by Apple). I downloaded a free player called VLC Media player (for Windows) and my .mov files play just fine, but it's a small pain in the ass. When I open those video files in my audio editing program (Adobe Audition), they open normally and I can edit them. It's just Windows Media Player that has the problem. Good luck!
@@RedeyePerc So the Battery isn't Rechargeable...Btw Very Very nice drumming.
I finally had it with my decrepit 2HD. The low light modes were not good. 720p max, and it was quirky. I ordered a q2n with 16gb card and tripod.
Very interesting. It's nice to see a comparison of the lighting modes. I have the original Zoom Q2. I'm wondering what are the differences between the Q2 and the Q2n. I'm thinking it's the lighting modes. The Q2 sounds great. But, is very bad in low lighting. I have to use studio lighting in my garage. The Q2 also eats batteries pretty quick. I use either rechargeable batteries or the AC adapter. The AC adapter works great.
I'm glad you asked this. I have the original Q3, the Q2HD, and now the Q2n. I'm going to shoot a comparison video tonight that I should have posted in a few days. Just from memory, I know the lighting modes are new, the digtal zoom is new, and the lens is a fisheye instead of the very small one on the previous models. I'm not sure how much the audio has improved. Some, but probably not drastically. Thanks for watching!
So, how do you do digital zoom on this camera, or more importantly, take the digital zoom off?
Sounds good, but that is probably down to the nice room and the carpet. The picture is not so great, especially the rainbow, or was that just a greasy lens? The various "modes" seem very unnecessary. The best thing is the picture and sound are from one device, so always in sync.
Thanks. I agree with your assessment. The picture isn't the best, but it's very convenient. The rainbow on the lens is a flare that is only fixable with their lens hood. I have another video entirely about that subject on my channel if you're interested.
Nice videos, helped a lot. Do you think the Q2n would stand a full band playing on 100 watt amps? Could be a little video in the making for you or somebody who has one. Convinced on getting one this will make me get one if so.
This will definitely handle that volume. My band plays through a PA with 800 watts per side (typically at around 80%), plus we have 2 guitar amps on stage and an entire bass rig and drumset. The last time I recorded, I sent the Q2n at 4/10 and the input level was very manageable. I think the max input it can handle is 120 dB. You can get a free dB level app for a smart phone and check out your volume first if you are concerned. Thanks for watching!
thank you.
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
I would suggest using the Lithium AA Batteries with the Q2n. That's what I put in mine and used it several times and no change in the battery power at all. Check my videos for my testing of the Zoom Q2n.
I do have some chargeable AAs that I want to try, and I'll see how the Lithium ones treat me. Thanks for watching! I'll check out your vids when I get a chance.
Sounds really good. Were you using any additional mics or just the one on the Q2n? Your kick was coming through so nicely I thought you might have had an additional room mic on as well. Great video. I just ordered one of these and I can't wait to try it out.
I did not use any additional mics or any other sound recording. Everything is straight into the Q2n. When placed in front of a drumset, you should get a very good approximation of what that set sounds like in person. When you move the camera around, like to the back to get a better viewing angle, the bass drum will be noticeably softer. Good luck with the camera. I think it's well worth the price. Take care!
Thanks for the info. Your drums sounded so good on that video I thought you must have had other mics on. Good to know that those things record the sound that good. Mine is supposed to be here next week, can't wait.
Great - good luck and have fun with it. With proper placement, you can get a very good sound from this thing.
Be extremely careful that this camera does not tip over when attached to a tri pod, the housing that holds the tripod is not strong. That's exactly what happened to mine, 5 month old camera , now useless. Very disappointed that Zoom would not make this right and cover this under warranty.
It doesnt come with rechargeable battery?
Nope. 2 x AA
In this review, the white shelves appear concave/convex. Why? Is that something the Q2N produced? Didn't notice that in other reviews of Q2N. Accessory Package: APQ-2N
Thanks for watching! The lens on the Q2n is super fisheyed, so everything at the edges of the frame distorts to rounds. This is very similar to what happens with GoPros. I try to keep everything important in the middle 75% of the shot, then I can crop off the edges if I need to later to make it look more normal. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Did you mention it could be powered by USB?
Are the field of view settings for controlling the amount of fisheye, or is it just a fancy name for zooming in/out? Is there a way to turn off or reduce the fisheye effect?
I own one. There's just a "wide" mode. Thats the fish eye effect you're seeing. You can turn that off so the field of view becomes default.
It seems generally nice as far as te video goes - audio is decent, too. Your voice is definitely clear and glossy. The drums flanged a bit, but I think that would be expected. What I don't understand is why Zoom did this with AA batteries for something that is almost 200 bucks. (likely more like 150 or so). I would imagine some sort of rechargeable lith-polymer battery would have made more sense. Maybe that is why it is less expensive? Nice demo, though! Thank you.
Thanks for watching! The AA setup is very convenient, but the battery life is truly awful and my only real complaint with this camera. I've been getting about 75 minutes per set before they show 0% life left. On my last gig, I used a standard mini USB cable to provide power and it worked great, but I had a cord trailing across the floor. I think the sound is good enough for what I (and likely the intended audience) will use it for the most.
@@RedeyePerc Thank you,you answered my question.
does this unit have any issues uploading, it doesn't seem that easy and nobody talks about it... you know once you record you want to upload to youtube and facebook, is there any quality lost in this process, we know it can record instruments
I think no one talks about uploading from the unit directly because it's not very common for someone to do that. For all of my videos, there is quite a bit of editing to do later, so I always use an editing program, re-save the videos, then upload from my computer. I think uploading from the camera directly would be a huge strain on the batteries, and since there is no wi-fi connections, you have to go through a computer anyway, so why not just save the file on that computer and upload from there? Sorry I couldn't help, but that for watching!
I'm wondering if the "rainbow" effect was caused by light reflection from the cymbal located in front of you.
It happens in different situations as well - ua-cam.com/video/Zw16NXCx4mM/v-deo.html
Can you connect to an ipad air 2 says too much power when i try it using apple connection kit?
Thanks for watching! I do not have an iPad, so I can't answer that. Sorry.
Sir its a tood cid...tnx a lo.. that audio was directly recorded in the cam? Sounds so clear
Thanks for good observation! And what with Field of Fiew? Is it always fish-eyed?
Thanks for watching! The field of view is always fisheyed, yes. I get around this by only putting important things in the middle of the screen then cropping the edges.
Can you get rid of fish eye with this?
You would have to do that with video editing software
The audio is great... Do you agree
Hi, thanks for this great set of videos on this camera. A couple questions;
Does this camera come with any software that would allow you to pan and/or zoom, like the software with a Webcam will allow you to do?
Does the camera have Clean HDMI output?
Thanks for watching! Sorry for the slow reply.
To be honest, I did not look at the included software at all. I have a good workflow with my current programs, so I didn't get into it. I think they still include their "Handishare" program, which lets you preview and save all or parts of a video to your computer, but the editing is probably limited. You're probably better off with a "Light" version of a big program, like Adobe Premiere Elements (my choice). It's around $60-80. You can pan/zoom pretty easily with it.
I also did not try the HDMI out, sorry. I'm strictly a memory card user, so that didn't come up.
Take care!
question +Redeye Percussion
Does it have just 'audio record' option? rather than always video +audio ?( As it'l save on battery aswel)
Aaron William Yes it does. It's a little hard to find because it's grouped with the camera resolution settings. (720p, 1080p, OFF).
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but overtime I try to zoom in one stage for video, the video ends up blurry. Does this happen to you? Maybe it's because I've been doing it in concert lighting? The scene is on "auto"
Are you zooming in on the camera during recording, or later on when you are editing the video?
Redeye Percussion before I even press record. I set the zoom then start recording.
Thanks for making this review and putting it up.
I find the whole idea of batteries in a 'studio' equipment ridiculous. Can it not be powered from the mains or PC?
Hi again Redeye Percussion. I just got my Q2n, but it comes without a micro SD card, so I was wondering which brand (Transcend, SanDisk, TOSHIBA) you recommend. Also, what size (GB) do you recommend. I'm basically using it to record my band live. Thanks.
I really hate to recommend a card that is not on their "official" list, because if it doesn't work I don't want you to be mad. I started off with a SanDisk 64GB card and it worked fine for about 3 months, then totally stopped. The camera said the card was too slow even though it's a class 10 card and works fine in a GoPro. I now have a 64GB Lexar that works fine (for now). The 64s give you 5+ hours which works for a normal bar length gig for my band. Good luck!
Redeye Percussion Thanks a lot. I bought a 16GB SanDisk Extreme Pro cuz I'm gonna upload the videos right away then delete them. Thanks again.
Hey could I use this camera for vlogging as well?
Absolutely, but - there is no screen on the front, so you have to guess if you are in frame. Since it's super wide angle, that shouldn't be hard.
Hi! thanks for the video. Can I use external 1/8" input to record a line signal (e.g. background music) TOGETHER with integrated XY mic (recording drums)?
Sadly, you cannot do that. The 1/8" input overrides the built in mics. Look at the Q4 and the Q8 to get inputs together with an X/Y pair with video.
Since the Q8 is advertised as a 4 track recorder I am pretty sure it is able to do what I asked. Not sure about the Q4.
My bad - the Q8 has X/Y mics and XLR inputs. The Q4 is just like the Q2n with one stereo input that disables the mics.
Live the sound but I hate fish eye angle.
cool stuff :)
Thanks!
4k video recording on 1080p playback - real smooth
Nice review! I have a Zoom Q4....how do you think this compares to the Q4?
Thanks for watching! I do not have a Q4 to compare it to, sorry. I did a side-by-side with the Q2n VS Q2HD VS Q3. You can find it here - ua-cam.com/video/DeQV0CFcR0k/v-deo.html
cool...I will check out that video!
This sound is directly from the camera?
Yes it is.
The video quality is quite poor...the small image sensor looks like it's blowing highlights and the lens doesn't contain any good glass.
The sound is pretty OK but I expected better from Zoom.
I agree. The whole thing is kind of underwhelming. I haven’t tried the 4K version, so hopefully the picture is much better.
Listening with my Sennhieser headphones. No bass frequency's at all on your drum kit, No low end on your kick. Audio was clear but seems very mid range sounding. So the Video looks good but on a camera to record music I would say not so much.
wow, they should have gone with a lithium, rechargeable battery, like everything else nowadays.
Agreed. The battery life is very disappointing. Good thing it's so cheap or that would be a deal breaker.
This is a classic zoom or a 4k?
Classic zoom
Thanks for making this! Just had a question on the audio: I noticed a little "washiness" on that crash cymbal (sounds sort of like maybe some comb filtering going on). Does your cymbal have that kind of sound? Or is it an artifact going on with the mics? Just wondering if it sounds like that because of your cymbal type or because it's closest to the mics and something strange is going on when picked up by the Zoom. Any thoughts would help. Thanks again!
Thanks for watching! When I listen back, my crash sounds the same to me in the video and in person, so I don't believe the mics are distorting it at all. The only processing I did was to hard limit around -3dB to cut off any really loud hits and then normalize to 95% to bring up the total volume. Take care.
Cant help but it seems like a parabolic mirror..? Know what Im saying..?..peck
Thx for doing this. Honestly this looks like a piece of crap.
The lens flair on your shirt was in every single setting and the different colour modes looked obsolete.
Keep in mind this is pretty old and a 1080p version. They have a 4K version out now that I never got, but it looks much improved.
We use zoom q2n
How do you like it?
Why does everyone look like a scared robot when they put a camera at the end of a stick?
DUDE! Get those CRT TVs replaced!
We don’t ever use them and the tech department probably doesn’t want to throw them in a closet somewhere.
Am seeing a rainbow on your shirt
David Pinto yes
great video, except your playing dragged which annoyed :D at least got to know how the recorder is like.
white boy ain't got no rhythm!
sound recorded with LOW-CUT mode..
That't not the case. Low-Cut was off for all of these videos.
Sheesh, so the Q2n sucks at picking up bass sounds, sounds like
leensflare avoid with this APQ-2n
Thanks for the input. I have talked about the accessory kit in a couple of other videos. The big problem I have is that it is $50 and I only really need the lens hood. That's a ridiculous price.
The fluorescent light makes this this thing look loike hot garbage
Refracted
I really hope you’re not teaching the drums. Though, that’s not the point so, thanks for the review.
bad camera
horrible video sometimes
so disappointed with this camera
add a big light but no miracles
Really disappointed this camera is a fish eye lens
Thanks for watching! The good thing is that the Q2HD sounds almost exactly the same and it has a normal lens. Between the two, you should find a usable setup.
quality video is bad
Need s review on. A live show
With stage and our bar lighting please
2 HR battery😮 life
not worth it
Sorry
What about the play back?