People can walk well and have handicap stickers. My brother had Cystic Fibrosis. He looked normal. He could walk normal. But, if he walked too far, his body would quickly run low on oxygen, and he would have to rest. Never assume someone shouldn't have one. I have even confronted people a couple times. One time a young boy and girl parked in a gas stations handicapped spot. I went up to them and politely said, "You may have a right to park here, so I am not trying to be a jerk; but, if you don't, you really shouldn't use these spots because some people really do need them". The kid (I'd say like 17) instantly apologized, I think we shook hands, then we left all happy. Now, this guy has more reason to complain. Someone just stole his spot and he thinks they shouldn't be there. Fair enough, I understand. But, you can't judge a person by if they look normal and can walk 50 feet. Later, my brother had a double lung transplant. He was able to run and bike and do a lot. He really enjoyed himself. Sadly, less than a year after his transplant, he fell ill and past away.
I am sorry about the loss of your brother. It seems to have gotten so bad in the last year or 2 with people leaving notes or coming after people who don't think that the person looks handicapped. o
I have a blocked arteries, I was lucky when my legs were completely deprived of oxygen I was in hospital after emergency surgery in which I nearly died, my legs and boby are stuffed I can walk a little bit unaided but I am handicapped, whether I want to admit it or not, I need to use those spots
@Darkfarfetch Because invisible disabilities exist, and because he couldn't see that nor the placard where he was standing...doesn't mean they're not disabled. If disabled people are saying this...maybe you should listen. I am also physically disabled.
But really, how do you know if the person has a heart condition because he smoked? For all we know it is a congenital heart disorder, they were freaking born with the condition that got worse as they aged or some rare disorder/condition that affects the heart.
When people tell me I don't look handicapped, I look them in the face and say the following. " Well I be damned, you don't look stupid either, but who am I to judge."
The worse are the assholes who take it upon themselves to make a scene by lecturing and judging without even knowing you. I lost my lower left leg in an car accident years ago and now use a prosthetic. Even though I have a disabled plate and placard I don't always need to use them to park in a handicap spot. I only use them on my bad days when I experience ghost pains or pain in the area of the amputation and have trouble walking or standing a long time. But when you see me, unless I'm wearing shorts or a dress, you can't tell I have a prosthetic leg. On bad days the only telltale sign is a little limp. However on one bad day that I needed to use a handicap spot a woman confronted me in the parking lot and accused me of not being handicap, that I didn't deserve to park in that spot and that I should be ashamed because I was abusing the system and taxpayers money and that I was just being lazy. She even threaten to call the police and even said someone on disability couldn't even afford the car I had so I must be faking it (newsflash just because someone is disabled doesn't automatically mean they're on disability and can't work). By now people were watching her ranting and actually agreeing with her. And even though I didn't have to prove anything I raised my pants leg to show the prosthetic. I never seen a group of idiots shut up so fast. The woman who started it all walked quickly back to her car and drove off without even apologising for yelling at me. Most of the small crowd of people who were agreeing with her walked away too without saying a word, others just laughed it off like it was a joke. Ya let's go humiliate someone we know nothing about ha ha. Btw there were several empty handicap spots.
Yeah that's terrible, so is non handicapped people taking up handicapped spots. It's something that can really make someone upset. There's no reason for you to get upset with someone saying something. Unless they are rude. There are a lot of people with fake or stolen handicap placards.
I had samething happen to me, except they also vandalized my vehicle. I am disabled, but also dont look disabled. I find people judge way too quick. The lady parked herself so i could not leave. When police got there i showed them my disabled card, and also pulled my pants down. I wanted the police to charge her with felony property damage. In this day in age people dont get facts, before they react.
I'm disabled. I have good days and bad days. Just because I'm walking does NOT mean I'm not hurting!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate people who think just because I don't look disabled, that I'm not disabled. I AM.
steve b well that is true I suppose in some casesbut being in car crash can also cause disabilities or loss of life. Though motorcycle riders do have a higher incidence of accidents.
It's so ridiculous how much people get upset over if someone deserves a handicap placard or plates. Trust me the drs don't just hand them out to everyone. It's taken very serious. And where I live the handicap parking spots aren't always closer to the door. Trust me when I'm having a half way decent day I don't use the handicap parking spots. But noone knows how BAD the chronic pain is in my feet and legs. I'm trying to not use a wheelchair or scooter in the stores, because I don't want to lose the mobility I still have. That doesn't mean I don't deserve to use the handicap parking plates I have.
Pam Picknell exactly. I don't always take the handicspots either. If I need it I will use it. But only if I can't find a spot that's close to where I need to go.
Doctors don't just hand them out? I lived in an apartment back in 2011, my female neighbor had one for a pinkie toe that was amputated. You telling me that is a legitimate justification for a handicapped placard? You have people missing a complete leg, or in some that have no use of one, that have a hard time getting that placard. So don't say doctors give them out justifiably. Doctors also "coached" patients on why they issued them a medical marijuana card, does that make it right, nope!
Sorry but, a lot of doctors actually misdiagnose patients all the time. Because the patients are stupid and are convinced more is wrong with them than truly is. So yes, they do tend to just hand them out.
I have a permanent handicap placard in my car. I am almost 75 and suffer from arthritis and degenerative disc disease in my lower back and neck. I have good and bad days. Mostly bad but still only park in handicap space when I have to. Some people are so judgemental. My late husband had COPD, PTSD, congestive heart failure and diabetes and was in a wheelchair. I sometimes had to go thru a parking lot looking for a parking spot so I wouldn't have to push him with my ailments. It's pretty darn sad when I hear young able bodied young people claimed ' I was only there a few minutes'. Entitled brats.
I accidentally parked in a handicapped spot because the sign was placed funny and the markings on the pavement were faded. I immediately reparked as soon as I realized my mistake. It astounds me how so many people have no respect for those with disabilities.
Samantha Elam if the sign isn't directly facing the parking spot, and there are illegible or no pavement markings, legally you'd be fine to park there.
Samantha Elam thank you so much for respecting the handicapped parking spot. I'm disabled and find it hard to walk far. People don't realize we don't ask to be disabled. Sometimes life throws us a curve ball. I became disabled from childbirth 10 years ago
Vickie Finney I work for ihss (in home social services) and my client has her good days and her bad days. some days she can feel like she can walk anywhere, other days she's almost bed ridden. I also know a man who has sickyle cell and is in a wheel chair. can you believe he got shamed for parking in a handicapped spot? and get this, it was by someone else in a handicapped spot who complained he was parked crooked (which was because they had parked over the line and he has a van who needs the extra space for his chair) they then told him he couldn't park there because he didn't have a placard. well he didn't have a placard because he has the handicap icon on his licence plate, which he invited them to look. when I was told this story I almost cried because this is the sweetest man you'll ever meet and having heard someone harassed him like that hurt my heart.
Samantha Elam people need to mind their own business. Sometimes I feel like people are jealous they can't park in our spots. Like I say, we didn't ask to be handicapped. I hate when people think it's ok to park there without a placard, cause there just running into the store real quick. Ridiculous.
If someone has a placard or plate, they park up front. And it's NOT up to anyone in the parking lot to pass any kind of judgement on that in any way. Now, park in a blue space without a placard or plate... You'd best check your tires for roofing nails.
People have NO RIGHT whatsoever to judge another person's abilities based upon how they appear. It's like they're acting as a doctor doing an on the spot diagnosis they think will hold up in court or something. I'm handicapped, though not visibly so, and have been confronted as well. They actually ARGUED with me! If you have a disabled permit, you're legal. End of story. If someone doesn't like it, it's their problem not the disabled person's. Tell them to take it up with LE. Other than, fuck off!
I'm in California and am a disabled veteran. I had a lady harass me the other day for parking in a handicap spot. I don't have a placard. I have handicap license plates. Too many people think you need a placard. They open their mouth without even looking at the license plate. I told this lady to get out of here as I pointed to my plates!
I'm in the same situation. A Vet also. And for a long time I experienced the same approbation. But now I'm in a wheelchair and you know what? Some of those same loudmouth know-nothings now have to see me in my spanking new wheelchair, courtesy of the VA. I wonder what they're thinking NOW??
Thank you guys for your service. I am disabled, but I don't have a placard since I don't drive. A pregnant woman accused my dad and I for harassment since she didn't have a placard nor disabled plates. It sickens me that nondisabled entitled people use these spots.
I have crebral palsy in the left half of my body wich limits how far i can go until they got me a wheelchair in 2011 u wouldn't believe all the work that had to be done to prove my case. Recently I announced to friends I wanted to get my liecence to drive people have been riddicling me saying stuff like why do u want to drive you know its a waste of time. So sad when people mock the fact I want to get out into the real world instead of living in the care facillity forever they tease me about that to saying its a waste of time and pointless and that it'll never happen i even got teased when i mention i want to run for office they say stuff like u cant win so why try? I'll tell you why cause im a person damn it. my heart goes out to peter
kelly berry they will never know what it's like to be disabled you are only as disabled as you think you are you'll always have limits, everybody does but if you don't try how will you know.
kelly berry go for it! I'm proud of you for wanting to try. They have adaptable cars. It's very sad how people that are supposed to be friends and family can be so cruel. You'll never know if you don't try 😉. My family and friends never believed in me. So now I only have 1 friend and 3 family members I talk to and careful what I say to them.
My step dad has one, I never understood why till I asked him, he walks normal he’s a normal human being, he till me he was in a trucking accident years ago, his truck flipped and he broke his spine neck collar bone and ribs, let say he was supposed to be totally paralyzed, but he walks today and when he eats small food he chokes on it cause of this scaring in his neck
So he insulted a disabled person, they took offence and beat his ass and he ran off, meaning he doesn't need the cane. So he's the one that's not disabled!!! Stupid Peter for doing a story on this. He actually committed a hate crime and he lost the fight.
When it comes to parking spaces, the average person has the belief that if its not being used its available for their convenience, as accessible spaces are closest to the entrance. I've had two different people tell me that they "pay taxes," so they can park wherever they want, when I confronted them about parking in an accessible parking spot. The average Joe/Jane has no clue, nor gives a damn, about being disabled and woe be unto the person w/ what's known as a hidden disability, as witnessed in the video. When it comes to parking spaces, the average person has the belief that if its not being used its available for their convenience, as accessible spaces are closest to the entrance. Ignorance abounds!
This happens all the time...to me..I look just fine "healthy"...but I can only walk so far because of rumitory arthritis in my spine and hips...on top of kidney failure and dialisys..plus I'm young...it sucks..so people are very judgmental...
Not all handicaps are visible. I have a birth defect in my spine that causes agonizing pain when I'm on my feet for long. I have a placcard for good reason, as do lots of other healthy-appearing individuals. So stop judging on the basis of appearances!
Kauko Laurinolli Well,when someone is breaking into your abode,don't bother calling the police! If someone hits your car or hits you,don't call the police! You have good and bad in everything! Try having and showing some respect to others!
This guy clearly says that he initiated the conflict, but that after that he cannot remember anything. Standard for a rage blackout. Yet he makes out that HE is the victim?
Or maybe someone reminded him that he had one a video camera. How exactly is this easy money? So you set up a patsy to sue and pay him to cut you off and beat you and something something, then payoff?
well you would know cause you were there...right??? and your'e an authority on disabilities...right?? and you walk in his shoes all day long...right?? and your'e a licensed doctor...right?? your'e a schmuck...all day long...right!!!
People need to understand that you dont have to be in a wheel chair in order to be handicapped like its for people with diseases that give them trouble in there life while walking
One thing to say to you judgemental jerks. One day you will find yourself or someone you love in a similar situation, karma has a Long memory and very Sharp Teeth! Just Saying,have a wonderful day!
He harassed a disabled person for not looking disabled enough and said something inflammatory. He chose to not mind his own business and got punched for it. and then turns around and cries about it.
I only use my placard when I can't find a spot kinda close to the door. I look normal when I walk, but after a short distance the pain in my legs is so great I have to sit down until it goes away. No, I'm not fat. I have heart problems that reduces the blood flow in my legs. But, you couldn't know that just by looking at me or watching me walk!
I have a friend that's handicapped. His name is Vincent, he looks normal and walks pretty good, and it makes me mad when somebody says "You don't look handicap.."!
My doc and my pain mgt doc have offered me placards but I’ve refused so far. There’s folks out there that need it much more than I do. As for doctors not just handing them out, unfortunately some do. In some states the county clerks office can and do issue them without a doctors note based on their own ‘observation’. Needless to say that is abused for political and personal gain.
In Florida, there are many newly reconfigured parking lots. Especially in fast food parking lots. Unfortunately, the old ld blue-lined handicap spots are not painted over, only the handicap spot sign is removed. I asked a Sheriff who said that tickets can only be issued for spots with a sign.
A doctor has to fill out the 2nd half of a two page form in California for you to get a placard. You fill out lots of info, then the doctor fills out the rest. Diagnosis and length of disability is required because there are temporary placards, or permanent placards, or license plates. It is nobody else’s business what your diagnosis is, or why your doctor feels you require the placard. But even if you appear completely disabled, you are not allowed by law in California to use that parking space unless you have the handicap plates on your car or the placard on your dashboard or rear view mirror. Period. If someone thinks you are using a placard or plated car but they are not designated for you, perhaps thinking you have used a relatives handicap placard (done a lot), they don’t have a right to confront you directly, but rather are to report it to law enforcement for determination of who owns the placard. Here they are numbered and the DMV can identify for law enforcement what name the placard is under. Unless that person is in the car, you can’t use it to park in the spot. It’s fraud and by law is supposed to result in law enforcement taking the placard and the DMV revoking it. There is also an app that was made by a community watch group that allows you to take pictures of a car with no placard, or the placard with number visible and a pic of who got out of the car, and send it to the DMV. If it is one with no placard, the pics serve the same as a citizen arrest so to speak, and the DMV has the ability to submit it to the law enforcement agency as a citation request, and an actual ticket will be issued. No joke. If it is a placard and the DMV photo doesn’t match the pic of who was getting out of the car, same thing, plus revoked placard. The DMV will ask the owner of the placard to bring it in and hand it over. Citations and fines are assessed as well. I have the app, and have used it only once. I have let people know I have a reporting app, and they have all but one moved their vehicles from the space. There are so few spots it really is a big deal to allow only valid parking but we are not police officers. Keep your wits about you and never ever touch anyone.
OMG! people show respect for the handicapped , whether they're adults or children! Some day, I hope never for anyone reading this an illness or accident might take away your ability to walk. You would be the first person hollering about they parked in my space. This makes me angry, because I myself is newly handicapped due to a rare disease ALS Variant (Lou Gehrig's disease} and I use a rollator/power wheelchair.
Stop fighting over these handicapped parking spaces. If you think something is wrong, call the police and let them handle it. Unless you're a cop, it's none of your business if someone should or shouldn't be parked there.
Lots of brain related things are actually STORED in the spinal cord, fractured disks leak onto the cord and cause major pain and issues depending what part of ur back is hurt. And even tho I can't actually run, I use the word run since it means "I went as fast as I could" This I think they meant he tried to get away from the man and just wasn't fast enough. Since he was injured before the assault its not that hard to get badly hurt in multiple areas just from falling... So that added kick could have done a lot. I have amnesia from a car wreck and allergic reaction to a medication but could still recognize ppl even tho I couldn't remember their names or our childhood. I could do school work in certain subjects sometimes but not explain how I knew how to do it... And I couldn't remember the same things two days in a row. Some day's I could keep up and others I just had silence in my head when I tried to bring up the information. It was terrible since I'd had photographic memory my whole life... I had to relearn how to learn and remember without it. Its really hard to explain, u find urself awkward and unsettled very often.. Don't judge just based on his amnesia. If u judge focus on something else...
I'm a quadriplegic, and I drive a specially modified full sized Chevrolet Suburban (with wheelchair lift). There's been many times that I've pulled into a handicapped spot and had people walk over and start being abusive (before I even start the process of getting out) for parking there. All they see is a normal looking guy, in a normal looking Suburban, sitting in a handicapped spot, so they start running their mouth. My point here is that sometimes people are to quick to judge others without knowing the full set of facts. While I don't condone violence, maybe Mr. Ledoux should have held his tongue. As an example; What if the guy that parked in the spot was a perfectly able-bodied person, but was there to pick up/load an elderly or handicapped person that was waiting just inside the doors of the store. In most states using the handicapped spot to load/unload someone other than the driver is perfectly acceptable. I'm not saying that abuse of the handicapped spot doesn't happen, I see it on an almost daily basis. However, I see people jumping to conclusions without the full set of facts far more often.
thenerdnetwork They refit the interior of the car to work for an individuals disability, quite often it will be something like breath control to work the breaks. there's probably a video around here somewhere if you search for disabled car. :)
After I had hip replacement surgery the orthopedist asked if I wanted a handicapped placard and I politely refused because I didn't need it as much as someone who had more difficulties than I did. But that's an example of people who don't "look" handicapped getting the opportunity.
If you have a handicap card, then just tell them to get screwed, and walk off, and then watch to see if they do anything to your car. I carry pepper spray everywhere I go.
People like this is why I never applied for a handicap placard. (I’m in my early 20s) but I had kidney failure and was on dialysis for 4 years with little to no energy to even get to the scooters (which I’ve had people cuss me out over those too). Even after my transplant when I had so much pain in my abdomen I still had people judging me and assuming I wasn’t disabled.
Cheezumz002 You shouldn’t care about those people, their opinion of you is irrelevant. If you’re disabled and having a handicapped placard would make your life easier/less painful, then you should get one.
Do not give a shit and get one. Fur reel I can walk but got chronic pain and tiredness plus a heart condition. So it was super annoying having to waste my energy with idiots about my disability. I don’t drive and said fuck it ima get a couple placards there free and I can have em in case I get a ride somewhere and one on my backpack to not deal with idiots no more. You will get assholes regardless but least u will be a lot more comfy. Like seriously prior to getting one getting on and off the bus was a pain. Like can people wait 10 seconds or so to not get on. The front is literally the disabled designated area so course where getting off the front especially if we want the step lowered. But now with the placard on the backpack it’s so nice having them get out the way 😺 But u will still get idiots though sadly. Like that bus driver who was in heavy traffic so opened the door early and just as I get to the door he closes it and goes to the stop down the street. Like placards are pretty big how do u not see that on my backpack. But u gotta not give a shit regardless don’t make ur self uncomfortable just cuz of idiots and my dog loves u
Moral of the story dont make fun of disabled people or you will become disabled by them so you can have a small taste of what they feel like having to live like that everyday. Being disabled myself don't judge people their dr gave it to them for a reason!
Disability is not always seen. Heart conditions make long walks impossible but that person may never stumble or limp. It is none of your business to ask. If you think they are getting by unseen and they park in a HC spot, call non emergency numbers and report it. But what gives this complainant the right the judge someone else’s pain or abilities as worse than their own? You don’t live in their skin or walk (limp) a mile in their shoes. Sorry, the assault should not have happened but neither should the rush to judgment on the other guy’s abilities. You can even get (in my area - Texas) a HC placard for ADHD and other mental issues. Sorry, I do not feel sorry for either person.
Wow! Why did the person get so angry, just because you questioned if they were disabled ? That’s uncalled for! You don’t attack someone no matter how ignorant they are being. Now that person ( the attacker ) is going to jail for assault over a snarky question.
I had a temporary handicap placard, one of the red ones, immediately following my back surgery and the infection saga. I wouldn't say I was walking fine, I wasn't, but if you ignored that part of it then it was hard to ignore the plastic tubing coming out of my arm and going into an IV pump bag. I don't think anyone ever said anything to me but I'm also a pretty big guy.
I have a handicap placard because i lose my balance when walking sometimes, it's a brain injury, I walk with a cane most of the time but can walk without it over short distances. If the guy didn't have a handicap permit call the police, the fine is generally very high, otherwise mind your business. It's still no excuse for assault.
Some chick confronted my son and me over parking in the handicapped space at a clinic. She said we needed a “sticker.” I politely thanked her and went about my business. She repeated herself. I thanked her again. I think it took the wind out her sails when I opened the trunk and hauled out a wheelchair. My son, The spoilsport, said we had a placard. The chick called us an expletive and drove off. She hadn’t seen the placard and hadn’t seen my 80 year old tiny mom in the front seat. I think of that when I need a good laugh 😎
You're a moron. Your mother, the Wheelchair, and your smart assed attitude have nothing to do with anything. You need either a valid placard or license plate to park in that spot.
I confronted a fella who was putting 3 kids in his car who was parked in a disabled bay, had he got a permit to park there and he just went crazy, so let the clowns go for your own sake, look at where you are now
As an apparently able bodied Disabled Driver with a Disability Parking Permit, I have been challenged on a number of occasions, even before I have gotten out of My Vehicle, because I don’t have a Wheelchair. Some people are under the mistaken Belief that because The Symbol features a Wheelchair, only Disabled people with a Wheelchair may Park there.
Not all disabilities are visible 😢 I had a stroke 9 years ago and it’s not obvious that I survived a traumatic brain injury and yes when I am in public I rely on a cane as well 🤦🏼♀️
Yes, some people have disabilities you can't see. And it was wrong of him to make that judgement. However that was NO excuse for the physical assault that followed!
People don't necessary look handicapped. I had a handicapped spot at university because I had a serious illness and couldn't walk very far. The number of people who ignored the sign was ridiculous. I had to call campus police and they had the car towed!
Sounds & looks like a not to subtle insurance or SSI claim. You forget everything but the dash cam & the other driver just happened to be wearing a ski mask.
I actually know someone that has a fraudulent placard. She does have a medical condition that is potentially disabling, but for the last few years since she was diagnosed, she has been able to work as a waitress and wear spiked heels. She is active 16 hours per day, often doing housework after working at the diner...goes on extensive shopping trips....and pays for it all with her SSDI check...since SSA doesn't know she is in fact working gainfully....but i don't dare say anything, even when I can't get a parking spot because her daughter the military recruit is using the mothers placard to illegally park....i would just be called a karen if i were to speak up, after all her doc signed off on the placard and the disability application...her doc that maybe spends an hour with her per year...whereas I see her multiple times per week and see what she does.
I am a 60% disabled Veteran and outwardly the only thing that would give it away is a slight limp. I have a disabled Veteran tag on my cars and a .45 under my shirt so be careful who you pick a fight with.
People are stupid. You don't need to have a visible physical disability to use the handicap parking. Some of the people who complain to people who need that and say they fake it should just be respectful
Wish people would understand that not all Handicaps can be seen. I look perfectly health but have Pots Syndrome and Kidney failure. I can only be on my feet for 20-30 minutes before I'll pass out.
I totally understand that people can have a disability and it's not noticeable. I'm 70 years old and my legs are not as good as they used to be. I don't consider myself handicapped because I can walk for around 10-15 minutes before I need to sit down and rest. I will however make use of the electric shopping carts in a grocery store or a department store because I generally am there for 45 minutes or so to shop. I don't drive anymore because of reduced driving skill, but even if I did I wouldn't park my car in a handicap parking spot.
I'm autistic 53yo with ADD, EUPD and PDA and have a Blue Badge (UK) on the same vehicle as my wife (who requires a powered wheelchair for mobility and a lift on the van making it a little unweildy). I am also a big, bald, beardy bloke in black at about 17stone...I wonder why I never have any trouble (even when fully hooded, masked and with an eye mask). It's almost a shame.
He had a disabled placard. End of story. Yet his memory loss is BS. That doesn't happen. Lots of other comments rightly point out that you cannot tell if someone is disabled merely by looking at them.
The report is being vague here. Did the other car have a handicapped placard? If so he had every right to park there, and Peter should have never questioned the guy. With that being said the other driver had absolutely no right to attack him and hopefully was arrested. Bottom line, if someone has a placard don't question them about it. You have no clue what their disability is.
As a person with empathy and some critical thinking skills, I assume that if you have the placard or plates to park in the handicapped spot, then you need it. And if you don't then GTFO and park somewhere else. And if you have the plates/placard, but use them when they are not for you, you should pay huge fines as well.
i forget her name but there was a woman in the handicap spot beside me and a couple was cussing her tell her she didn't need that spot being so young. the parked behind her and wouldn't let her leave. they called the cops. them out of the blue the woman hit her. and the man tried to then i got out of my truck and put a stop to it in a hurry. but anyways while we was waiting on the police to show up she as me if she could use the back seat of my truck and ask me please dont let anyone look in on her. i was like ok. she reached into her car grabbed a pair of shorts and jumped into my truck and about a minute later she got out in shorts and both legs was gone just below the knees. the couple tried to leave after that but now WE everyone around refused to let them leave. the female couple got $7000 fine and 30 days in jail and the man got $5000 fine. i could not tell. not sure but i think she lost both legs when she was like 5 and she was 28 then so she had some time to learn and get them to fit right. i talked to her a couple times after that for court. but then i guess she moved on with life because i never saw her again and in time just lost track of her.
All the better reason as to why the handicapped should have a CCW. At least IMHO. And just an FYI, but one can walk normally with internal injuries or even a debilitating illness AND NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW!!. So never judge, even if you have an MD after your name. And an MD would know better than to try diagnosing someone without examining them.
While it was not okay for the other person to assault this man, he was being ableist himself! For all he knows the other person could have chronic pain or a heart condition where too much walking is not helpful and the list could go on! Now the fact the other person beat this guy up makes Me think he was parking illegally...nevertheless the guy was wrong to assume just because someone can walk they don’t need a handicapped sticker!
Did the other car have a handicap placard or plate? This guy, the fella that was attacked assumed the guy was ok because he was walking ok. Again, you can’t assume, because not all are visible. I assume no placard. But, and I’ll be verbally attacked for this, in this day it’s better not to say anything to anyone. It’s maddening but…I had a placard for a long time for asthma. I rarely used it. But glad I had it when I could tell my breathing was getting difficult. Could others tell by looking at me? No.
So… did this man have a copy of the other man’s medical history??? You cannot tell by just looking at someone that they are handicapped or not. He claims he doesn’t remember if he said anything or what he said… yeah, right. Sometimes when you act like an entitled brat you get a response you doin’t want.
I've seen people who park in handicap spots and get out and move like an athlete i don't question them but i know sometimes people will use a parents just to park in one i could have gotten one when i cracked my ankle but i knew i could get along better than others who were worse off than me
Peter seems to be skirting the facts here and claiming an assault and brain injury, but the reality is he inapproriately confronted someone who may have been disabled for using a disabled parking spot. Rather than saying, "You're walking pretty well for being handicap," you could simply politely remind the person that they forgot to put their placard out. If they don't have a handicap placard or plate they will get the message, if they don't then call the police, but don't confront further.
I lived in GA for 29 years. Every 3rd person has a handicap sticker. At Walmart you 'll get run over. There are so many people tooling around on motorized buggies. All it meant in GA was that your too fat to walk.
Fat-shaming much? Also disabilities can lead to gaining weight such as little to no mobility which can leave a person unable to exercise as much as they hope, medications can cause weight gain and there are some conditions that will cause weight gain.
People can walk well and have handicap stickers. My brother had Cystic Fibrosis. He looked normal. He could walk normal. But, if he walked too far, his body would quickly run low on oxygen, and he would have to rest. Never assume someone shouldn't have one. I have even confronted people a couple times. One time a young boy and girl parked in a gas stations handicapped spot. I went up to them and politely said, "You may have a right to park here, so I am not trying to be a jerk; but, if you don't, you really shouldn't use these spots because some people really do need them". The kid (I'd say like 17) instantly apologized, I think we shook hands, then we left all happy. Now, this guy has more reason to complain. Someone just stole his spot and he thinks they shouldn't be there. Fair enough, I understand. But, you can't judge a person by if they look normal and can walk 50 feet. Later, my brother had a double lung transplant. He was able to run and bike and do a lot. He really enjoyed himself. Sadly, less than a year after his transplant, he fell ill and past away.
I am sorry about the loss of your brother. It seems to have gotten so bad in the last year or 2 with people leaving notes or coming after people who don't think that the person looks handicapped.
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Sue all off them and charge them 1,000,000.00 for hurting
I have a blocked arteries, I was lucky when my legs were completely deprived of oxygen I was in hospital after emergency surgery in which I nearly died, my legs and boby are stuffed I can walk a little bit unaided but I am handicapped, whether I want to admit it or not, I need to use those spots
@Darkfarfetch Did you not read my post?
@Darkfarfetch Because invisible disabilities exist, and because he couldn't see that nor the placard where he was standing...doesn't mean they're not disabled.
If disabled people are saying this...maybe you should listen. I am also physically disabled.
I have a heart situation with a defibrillator. It doesn't affect how I walk just how far I walk.Dont judge.
steve b how do you know he got his disability from smoking. Fuck off.
Lexi Buxton you triggerd snowflake? Grow up
But really, how do you know if the person has a heart condition because he smoked? For all we know it is a congenital heart disorder, they were freaking born with the condition that got worse as they aged or some rare disorder/condition that affects the heart.
@@Summonearth It doesn't matter, disabilities are disabilities.
When people tell me I don't look handicapped, I look them in the face and say the following. " Well I be damned, you don't look stupid either, but who am I to judge."
Oh my, that’s a good one 😂
I like that reply!
The worse are the assholes who take it upon themselves to make a scene by lecturing and judging without even knowing you.
I lost my lower left leg in an car accident years ago and now use a prosthetic. Even though I have a disabled plate and placard I don't always need to use them to park in a handicap spot. I only use them on my bad days when I experience ghost pains or pain in the area of the amputation and have trouble walking or standing a long time. But when you see me, unless I'm wearing shorts or a dress, you can't tell I have a prosthetic leg. On bad days the only telltale sign is a little limp.
However on one bad day that I needed to use a handicap spot a woman confronted me in the parking lot and accused me of not being handicap, that I didn't deserve to park in that spot and that I should be ashamed because I was abusing the system and taxpayers money and that I was just being lazy. She even threaten to call the police and even said someone on disability couldn't even afford the car I had so I must be faking it (newsflash just because someone is disabled doesn't automatically mean they're on disability and can't work). By now people were watching her ranting and actually agreeing with her. And even though I didn't have to prove anything I raised my pants leg to show the prosthetic.
I never seen a group of idiots shut up so fast. The woman who started it all walked quickly back to her car and drove off without even apologising for yelling at me. Most of the small crowd of people who were agreeing with her walked away too without saying a word, others just laughed it off like it was a joke. Ya let's go humiliate someone we know nothing about ha ha.
Btw there were several empty handicap spots.
That's terrible!
Yeah that's terrible, so is non handicapped people taking up handicapped spots. It's something that can really make someone upset. There's no reason for you to get upset with someone saying something. Unless they are rude. There are a lot of people with fake or stolen handicap placards.
I had samething happen to me, except they also vandalized my vehicle. I am disabled, but also dont look disabled. I find people judge way too quick. The lady parked herself so i could not leave. When police got there i showed them my disabled card, and also pulled my pants down. I wanted the police to charge her with felony property damage. In this day in age people dont get facts, before they react.
Lady Deadpool 💋 you should have talked to police
Not sure if I believe you use a prosthetic. Deadpool regrows limbs ;)
I'm disabled. I have good days and bad days. Just because I'm walking does NOT mean I'm not hurting!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate people who think just because I don't look disabled, that I'm not disabled. I AM.
Not all disabilities are visible.
steve b ok??
belly tripper how am I an asshole? What is so bad by saying not all disabilities are visible?
steve b ... Please speak coherently.
steve b well that is true I suppose in some casesbut being in car crash can also cause disabilities or loss of life. Though motorcycle riders do have a higher incidence of accidents.
steve b The biggest threat to motorcyclist are other drivers.
if he has permit, and can legally use it, case closed. guy was a damn psycho
It's so ridiculous how much people get upset over if someone deserves a handicap placard or plates. Trust me the drs don't just hand them out to everyone. It's taken very serious. And where I live the handicap parking spots aren't always closer to the door. Trust me when I'm having a half way decent day I don't use the handicap parking spots. But noone knows how BAD the chronic pain is in my feet and legs. I'm trying to not use a wheelchair or scooter in the stores, because I don't want to lose the mobility I still have. That doesn't mean I don't deserve to use the handicap parking plates I have.
Pam Picknell exactly. I don't always take the handicspots either. If I need it I will use it. But only if I can't find a spot that's close to where I need to go.
Pam Picknell it's because people will use their relative's placard to get s good spot
Doctors don't just hand them out? I lived in an apartment back in 2011, my female neighbor had one for a pinkie toe that was amputated. You telling me that is a legitimate justification for a handicapped placard? You have people missing a complete leg, or in some that have no use of one, that have a hard time getting that placard. So don't say doctors give them out justifiably. Doctors also "coached" patients on why they issued them a medical marijuana card, does that make it right, nope!
Sorry but, a lot of doctors actually misdiagnose patients all the time. Because the patients are stupid and are convinced more is wrong with them than truly is. So yes, they do tend to just hand them out.
Pam Picknell its a felony for a doctor to write it
If they have a handicap placard, it's registered in their name and is not expired, then he should not have to defend anything!
I have a permanent handicap placard in my car. I am almost 75 and suffer from arthritis and degenerative disc disease in my lower back and neck. I have good and bad days. Mostly bad but still only park in handicap space when I have to. Some people are so judgemental. My late husband had COPD, PTSD, congestive heart failure and diabetes and was in a wheelchair. I sometimes had to go thru a parking lot looking for a parking spot so I wouldn't have to push him with my ailments. It's pretty darn sad when I hear young able bodied young people claimed ' I was only there a few minutes'. Entitled brats.
I accidentally parked in a handicapped spot because the sign was placed funny and the markings on the pavement were faded. I immediately reparked as soon as I realized my mistake. It astounds me how so many people have no respect for those with disabilities.
Samantha Elam if the sign isn't directly facing the parking spot, and there are illegible or no pavement markings, legally you'd be fine to park there.
Miranda Berry the lines were visible once I got out of my car. that's why I moved.
Samantha Elam thank you so much for respecting the handicapped parking spot. I'm disabled and find it hard to walk far. People don't realize we don't ask to be disabled. Sometimes life throws us a curve ball. I became disabled from childbirth 10 years ago
Vickie Finney I work for ihss (in home social services) and my client has her good days and her bad days. some days she can feel like she can walk anywhere, other days she's almost bed ridden. I also know a man who has sickyle cell and is in a wheel chair. can you believe he got shamed for parking in a handicapped spot? and get this, it was by someone else in a handicapped spot who complained he was parked crooked (which was because they had parked over the line and he has a van who needs the extra space for his chair) they then told him he couldn't park there because he didn't have a placard. well he didn't have a placard because he has the handicap icon on his licence plate, which he invited them to look. when I was told this story I almost cried because this is the sweetest man you'll ever meet and having heard someone harassed him like that hurt my heart.
Samantha Elam people need to mind their own business. Sometimes I feel like people are jealous they can't park in our spots. Like I say, we didn't ask to be handicapped. I hate when people think it's ok to park there without a placard, cause there just running into the store real quick. Ridiculous.
Some people can only walk for 10 or 15 minutes before they have to get a wheelchair
That's why you need a plaque or sticker to verify.
If someone has a placard or plate, they park up front. And it's NOT up to anyone in the parking lot to pass any kind of judgement on that in any way.
Now, park in a blue space without a placard or plate... You'd best check your tires for roofing nails.
People have NO RIGHT whatsoever to judge another person's abilities based upon how they appear. It's like they're acting as a doctor doing an on the spot diagnosis they think will hold up in court or something. I'm handicapped, though not visibly so, and have been confronted as well. They actually ARGUED with me! If you have a disabled permit, you're legal. End of story. If someone doesn't like it, it's their problem not the disabled person's. Tell them to take it up with LE. Other than, fuck off!
That's right! You have the permit in your name? That is the END of the conversation!
NO correspondence is needed to be entered in to!
Don't open your mouth unless you can back it up
I'm in California and am a disabled veteran. I had a lady harass me the other day for parking in a handicap spot. I don't have a placard. I have handicap license plates. Too many people think you need a placard. They open their mouth without even looking at the license plate. I told this lady to get out of here as I pointed to my plates!
I'm in the same situation. A Vet also. And for a long time I experienced the same approbation. But now I'm in a wheelchair and you know what? Some of those same loudmouth know-nothings now have to see me in my spanking new wheelchair, courtesy of the VA.
I wonder what they're thinking NOW??
Thank you guys for your service. I am disabled, but I don't have a placard since I don't drive. A pregnant woman accused my dad and I for harassment since she didn't have a placard nor disabled plates. It sickens me that nondisabled entitled people use these spots.
"I don't remember. I MIGHT have said something"
Yeah ok sport 🙄
He probably did say something but still doesn’t give the other person the right to do what he did
I have crebral palsy in the left half of my body wich limits how far i can go until they got me a wheelchair in 2011 u wouldn't believe all the work that had to be done to prove my case. Recently I announced to friends I wanted to get my liecence to drive people have been riddicling me saying stuff like why do u want to drive you know its a waste of time. So sad when people mock the fact I want to get out into the real world instead of living in the care facillity forever they tease me about that to saying its a waste of time and pointless and that it'll never happen i even got teased when i mention i want to run for office they say stuff like u cant win so why try? I'll tell you why cause im a person damn it. my heart goes out to peter
kelly berry they will never know what it's like to be disabled you are only as disabled as you think you are you'll always have limits, everybody does but if you don't try how will you know.
kelly berry you need new friends, asap
I WAS going to say that too, NEW friends are in order for Kelly!
Where do we sign up as new friends?
kelly berry go for it! I'm proud of you for wanting to try. They have adaptable cars. It's very sad how people that are supposed to be friends and family can be so cruel. You'll never know if you don't try 😉. My family and friends never believed in me. So now I only have 1 friend and 3 family members I talk to and careful what I say to them.
My step dad has one, I never understood why till I asked him, he walks normal he’s a normal human being, he till me he was in a trucking accident years ago, his truck flipped and he broke his spine neck collar bone and ribs, let say he was supposed to be totally paralyzed, but he walks today and when he eats small food he chokes on it cause of this scaring in his neck
So he insulted a disabled person, they took offence and beat his ass and he ran off, meaning he doesn't need the cane. So he's the one that's not disabled!!! Stupid Peter for doing a story on this. He actually committed a hate crime and he lost the fight.
Peter ran his mouth to this guy and this guy kicked his ass? That what it sounds like.
Yup! And tries to say "I dont remmeber what I said" 🙄
No offense but what this guy did is no better. He’s making assumptions.
When it comes to parking spaces, the average person has the belief that if its not being used its available for their convenience, as accessible spaces are closest to the entrance. I've had two different people tell me that they "pay taxes," so they can park wherever they want, when I confronted them about parking in an accessible parking spot. The average Joe/Jane has no clue, nor gives a damn, about being disabled and woe be unto the person w/ what's known as a hidden disability, as witnessed in the video. When it comes to parking spaces, the average person has the belief that if its not being used its available for their convenience, as accessible spaces are closest to the entrance. Ignorance abounds!
America was BUILT on ignorance.
@@BadDriversOzno it wasn’t they are just entitled assholes
This happens all the time...to me..I look just fine "healthy"...but I can only walk so far because of rumitory arthritis in my spine and hips...on top of kidney failure and dialisys..plus I'm young...it sucks..so people are very judgmental...
"rumitory(sic)" - you have a non-existent condition? lol
Not all handicaps are visible. I have a birth defect in my spine that causes agonizing pain when I'm on my feet for long. I have a placcard for good reason, as do lots of other healthy-appearing individuals. So stop judging on the basis of appearances!
Nine and a half months later have the police done fuck all about this yet?
As you know most of the pigs are totally useless.
Your comment is disgusting.
Nine and a half months you idiot.
Jack London: Keep posting your disgusting comments so the world can know what you are.
Kauko Laurinolli Well,when someone is breaking into your abode,don't bother calling the police! If someone hits your car or hits you,don't call the police! You have good and bad in everything!
Try having and showing some respect to others!
Not all disabilities are visible , people need to mind their own damn business!
This guy clearly says that he initiated the conflict, but that after that he cannot remember anything. Standard for a rage blackout.
Yet he makes out that HE is the victim?
Exactly he knew the guy attacked him but he”may of said something “ nah he did say something.
@@walkingthroughashes8982and everyone knows that if someone says something you don't like you are well within your legal rights to assault them
@@walkingthroughashes8982for example, where are you at right now?
Lucky he could still remember his video camera, isn't it?
Ramon Navarro Exactly, he’s looking for easy money. I know a person just like him.
Or maybe someone reminded him that he had one a video camera.
How exactly is this easy money? So you set up a patsy to sue and pay him to cut you off and beat you and something something, then payoff?
@@sleazybtd Exactly.
He lost his memory because the other guy hit him in the back? I think this guy is trying to win the ghetto lotto.
well you would know cause you were there...right??? and your'e an authority on disabilities...right?? and you walk in his shoes all day long...right?? and your'e a licensed doctor...right?? your'e a schmuck...all day long...right!!!
Richard Herrington 🤣🤣
Richard Herrington >>>I agree ..
People need to understand that you dont have to be in a wheel chair in order to be handicapped like its for people with diseases that give them trouble in there life while walking
steve b no thats not a disease thats called not knowing ur way around this world or also known as stupid
steve b 😂😂😂😂😂 grab ass disease im done
They asked him to identify the assailant , but he doesn't remember......
That person may not have had a handicap you can't "see" but they certainly kicked that guys ass. Don't think they are truly handicapped.
One thing to say to you judgemental jerks. One day you will find yourself or someone you love in a similar situation, karma has a Long memory and very Sharp Teeth! Just Saying,have a wonderful day!
Found out the back pain possible stomach cancer, just got home from hospital after removing rest of Colon so Pfffffffttttt! 😁
Rude people need to be taken out of the public and brought to justice for discrimination against people with disabilities.
This is one of those men who like for everyone to feel sorry for him....dude, ure not the only one in pain. Get up and go, ull be fine..
I just dont believe this guy for some reason.
He harassed a disabled person for not looking disabled enough and said something inflammatory. He chose to not mind his own business and got punched for it. and then turns around and cries about it.
I only use my placard when I can't find a spot kinda close to the door. I look normal when I walk, but after a short distance the pain in my legs is so great I have to sit down until it goes away. No, I'm not fat. I have heart problems that reduces the blood flow in my legs. But, you couldn't know that just by looking at me or watching me walk!
Just call police, there’s a hefty fine involved and it will be on their record. Done !
I have a friend that's handicapped. His name is Vincent, he looks normal and walks pretty good, and it makes me mad when somebody says "You don't look handicap.."!
My doc and my pain mgt doc have offered me placards but I’ve refused so far. There’s folks out there that need it much more than I do. As for doctors not just handing them out, unfortunately some do. In some states the county clerks office can and do issue them without a doctors note based on their own ‘observation’. Needless to say that is abused for political and personal gain.
In Florida, there are many newly reconfigured parking lots. Especially in fast food parking lots. Unfortunately, the old ld blue-lined handicap spots are not painted over, only the handicap spot sign is removed. I asked a Sheriff who said that tickets can only be issued for spots with a sign.
A doctor has to fill out the 2nd half of a two page form in California for you to get a placard. You fill out lots of info, then the doctor fills out the rest. Diagnosis and length of disability is required because there are temporary placards, or permanent placards, or license plates. It is nobody else’s business what your diagnosis is, or why your doctor feels you require the placard. But even if you appear completely disabled, you are not allowed by law in California to use that parking space unless you have the handicap plates on your car or the placard on your dashboard or rear view mirror. Period. If someone thinks you are using a placard or plated car but they are not designated for you, perhaps thinking you have used a relatives handicap placard (done a lot), they don’t have a right to confront you directly, but rather are to report it to law enforcement for determination of who owns the placard. Here they are numbered and the DMV can identify for law enforcement what name the placard is under. Unless that person is in the car, you can’t use it to park in the spot. It’s fraud and by law is supposed to result in law enforcement taking the placard and the DMV revoking it. There is also an app that was made by a community watch group that allows you to take pictures of a car with no placard, or the placard with number visible and a pic of who got out of the car, and send it to the DMV. If it is one with no placard, the pics serve the same as a citizen arrest so to speak, and the DMV has the ability to submit it to the law enforcement agency as a citation request, and an actual ticket will be issued. No joke. If it is a placard and the DMV photo doesn’t match the pic of who was getting out of the car, same thing, plus revoked placard. The DMV will ask the owner of the placard to bring it in and hand it over. Citations and fines are assessed as well. I have the app, and have used it only once. I have let people know I have a reporting app, and they have all but one moved their vehicles from the space. There are so few spots it really is a big deal to allow only valid parking but we are not police officers. Keep your wits about you and never ever touch anyone.
OMG! people show respect for the handicapped , whether they're adults or children! Some day, I hope never for anyone reading this an illness or accident might take away your ability to walk. You would be the first person hollering about they parked in my space. This makes me angry, because I myself is newly handicapped due to a rare disease ALS Variant (Lou Gehrig's disease} and I use a rollator/power wheelchair.
not every handicapped is visible
How did Peter ran away from his attacker if he uses a cane?
Stop fighting over these handicapped parking spaces. If you think something is wrong, call the police and let them handle it. Unless you're a cop, it's none of your business if someone should or shouldn't be parked there.
Lots of brain related things are actually STORED in the spinal cord, fractured disks leak onto the cord and cause major pain and issues depending what part of ur back is hurt.
And even tho I can't actually run, I use the word run since it means "I went as fast as I could"
This I think they meant he tried to get away from the man and just wasn't fast enough.
Since he was injured before the assault its not that hard to get badly hurt in multiple areas just from falling...
So that added kick could have done a lot.
I have amnesia from a car wreck and allergic reaction to a medication but could still recognize ppl even tho I couldn't remember their names or our childhood.
I could do school work in certain subjects sometimes but not explain how I knew how to do it...
And I couldn't remember the same things two days in a row. Some day's I could keep up and others I just had silence in my head when I tried to bring up the information.
It was terrible since I'd had photographic memory my whole life...
I had to relearn how to learn and remember without it.
Its really hard to explain, u find urself awkward and unsettled very often..
Don't judge just based on his amnesia.
If u judge focus on something else...
I'm a quadriplegic, and I drive a specially modified full sized Chevrolet Suburban (with wheelchair lift). There's been many times that I've pulled into a handicapped spot and had people walk over and start being abusive (before I even start the process of getting out) for parking there. All they see is a normal looking guy, in a normal looking Suburban, sitting in a handicapped spot, so they start running their mouth.
My point here is that sometimes people are to quick to judge others without knowing the full set of facts. While I don't condone violence, maybe Mr. Ledoux should have held his tongue. As an example; What if the guy that parked in the spot was a perfectly able-bodied person, but was there to pick up/load an elderly or handicapped person that was waiting just inside the doors of the store. In most states using the handicapped spot to load/unload someone other than the driver is perfectly acceptable.
I'm not saying that abuse of the handicapped spot doesn't happen, I see it on an almost daily basis. However, I see people jumping to conclusions without the full set of facts far more often.
They are ignorant liberals.
Not to sound insensitive here... But how does a quadriplegic drive a vehicle? I mean... you have no use of any of your limbs, how can you steer?
thenerdnetwork They refit the interior of the car to work for an individuals disability, quite often it will be something like breath control to work the breaks. there's probably a video around here somewhere if you search for disabled car. :)
@@thenerdnetwork Fair question. You'll never get the answer!
@@SaltiDawg2008 This was over a year ago dude. I already did what Jess McKay said and looked up a video. So.. nice comment bro.
After I had hip replacement surgery the orthopedist asked if I wanted a handicapped placard and I politely refused because I didn't need it as much as someone who had more difficulties than I did. But that's an example of people who don't "look" handicapped getting the opportunity.
If you have a handicap card, then just tell them to get screwed, and walk off, and then watch to see if they do anything to your car. I carry pepper spray everywhere I go.
People like this is why I never applied for a handicap placard. (I’m in my early 20s) but I had kidney failure and was on dialysis for 4 years with little to no energy to even get to the scooters (which I’ve had people cuss me out over those too). Even after my transplant when I had so much pain in my abdomen I still had people judging me and assuming I wasn’t disabled.
Cheezumz002 You shouldn’t care about those people, their opinion of you is irrelevant. If you’re disabled and having a handicapped placard would make your life easier/less painful, then you should get one.
You're a moron also!
Do not give a shit and get one. Fur reel I can walk but got chronic pain and tiredness plus a heart condition. So it was super annoying having to waste my energy with idiots about my disability. I don’t drive and said fuck it ima get a couple placards there free and I can have em in case I get a ride somewhere and one on my backpack to not deal with idiots no more. You will get assholes regardless but least u will be a lot more comfy. Like seriously prior to getting one getting on and off the bus was a pain. Like can people wait 10 seconds or so to not get on. The front is literally the disabled designated area so course where getting off the front especially if we want the step lowered. But now with the placard on the backpack it’s so nice having them get out the way 😺
But u will still get idiots though sadly. Like that bus driver who was in heavy traffic so opened the door early and just as I get to the door he closes it and goes to the stop down the street. Like placards are pretty big how do u not see that on my backpack. But u gotta not give a shit regardless don’t make ur self uncomfortable just cuz of idiots and my dog loves u
So, was the culprit found and charged with assault?
A competent news organization would have broadcast the video he recorded.
If the “non handicapped “ person had a tag then I hate to say it but this guy is in the wrong too. I think a BOTH should be punished.
who decides?
Moral of the story dont make fun of disabled people or you will become disabled by them so you can have a small taste of what they feel like having to live like that everyday.
Being disabled myself don't judge people their dr gave it to them for a reason!
Disability is not always seen. Heart conditions make long walks impossible but that person may never stumble or limp. It is none of your business to ask. If you think they are getting by unseen and they park in a HC spot, call non emergency numbers and report it. But what gives this complainant the right the judge someone else’s pain or abilities as worse than their own? You don’t live in their skin or walk (limp) a mile in their shoes. Sorry, the assault should not have happened but neither should the rush to judgment on the other guy’s abilities. You can even get (in my area - Texas) a HC placard for ADHD and other mental issues. Sorry, I do not feel sorry for either person.
Not all show the physical symptoms Mine is Both physical and mental
Wow! Why did the person get so angry, just because you questioned if they were disabled ? That’s uncalled for! You don’t attack someone no matter how ignorant they are being. Now that person ( the attacker ) is going to jail for assault over a snarky question.
You don’t make comments like what he said .
I had a temporary handicap placard, one of the red ones, immediately following my back surgery and the infection saga. I wouldn't say I was walking fine, I wasn't, but if you ignored that part of it then it was hard to ignore the plastic tubing coming out of my arm and going into an IV pump bag. I don't think anyone ever said anything to me but I'm also a pretty big guy.
While I believe the altercation happened, I think he is making more out of it than there was
And that's why you don't confront people either. You don't know how they will respond. Get identifying info and give it to the police.
I have a handicap placard because i lose my balance when walking sometimes, it's a brain injury, I walk with a cane most of the time but can walk without it over short distances. If the guy didn't have a handicap permit call the police, the fine is generally very high, otherwise mind your business. It's still no excuse for assault.
Some chick confronted my son and me over parking in the handicapped space at a clinic. She said we needed a “sticker.” I politely thanked her and went about my business. She repeated herself. I thanked her again. I think it took the wind out her sails when I opened the trunk and hauled out a wheelchair. My son, The spoilsport, said we had a placard. The chick called us an expletive and drove off.
She hadn’t seen the placard and hadn’t seen my 80 year old tiny mom in the front seat.
I think of that when I need a good laugh 😎
You're a moron. Your mother, the Wheelchair, and your smart assed attitude have nothing to do with anything. You need either a valid placard or license plate to park in that spot.
None of this means squat - you need a properly assigned tag *DISPLAYED*
that's sad...ignorant ppl.....hope you heal soon...
He’s the ignorant one .
I don't understand why the police did not charge the attacker with assault and battery.
I confronted a fella who was putting 3 kids in his car who was parked in a disabled bay, had he got a permit to park there and he just went crazy, so let the clowns go for your own sake, look at where you are now
As an apparently able bodied Disabled Driver with a Disability Parking Permit, I have been challenged on a number of occasions, even before I have gotten out of My Vehicle, because I don’t have a Wheelchair.
Some people are under the mistaken Belief that because The Symbol features a Wheelchair, only Disabled people with a Wheelchair may Park there.
Not all disabilities are visible 😢 I had a stroke 9 years ago and it’s not obvious that I survived a traumatic brain injury and yes when I am in public I rely on a cane as well 🤦🏼♀️
Yes, some people have disabilities you can't see. And it was wrong of him to make that judgement. However that was NO excuse for the physical assault that followed!
People don't necessary look handicapped. I had a handicapped spot at university because I had a serious illness and couldn't walk very far. The number of people who ignored the sign was ridiculous. I had to call campus police and they had the car towed!
Never confront a stranger unless you're ready for a confrontation.
Sounds & looks like a not to subtle insurance or SSI claim.
You forget everything but the dash cam & the other driver just happened to be wearing a ski mask.
why did you not look at the placcards
I actually know someone that has a fraudulent placard. She does have a medical condition that is potentially disabling, but for the last few years since she was diagnosed, she has been able to work as a waitress and wear spiked heels. She is active 16 hours per day, often doing housework after working at the diner...goes on extensive shopping trips....and pays for it all with her SSDI check...since SSA doesn't know she is in fact working gainfully....but i don't dare say anything, even when I can't get a parking spot because her daughter the military recruit is using the mothers placard to illegally park....i would just be called a karen if i were to speak up, after all her doc signed off on the placard and the disability application...her doc that maybe spends an hour with her per year...whereas I see her multiple times per week and see what she does.
I am a 60% disabled Veteran and outwardly the only thing that would give it away is a slight limp. I have a disabled Veteran tag on my cars and a .45 under my shirt so be careful who you pick a fight with.
People are stupid.
You don't need to have a visible physical disability to use the handicap parking. Some of the people who complain to people who need that and say they fake it should just be respectful
Wish people would understand that not all Handicaps can be seen. I look perfectly health but have Pots Syndrome and Kidney failure. I can only be on my feet for 20-30 minutes before I'll pass out.
I totally understand that people can have a disability and it's not noticeable. I'm 70 years old and my legs are not as good as they used to be. I don't consider myself handicapped because I can walk for around 10-15 minutes before I need to sit down and rest. I will however make use of the electric shopping carts in a grocery store or a department store because I generally am there for 45 minutes or so to shop. I don't drive anymore because of reduced driving skill, but even if I did I wouldn't park my car in a handicap parking spot.
The cops won't do anything.
I'm surprised they didn't shake down and arrest the victim.
That John Chapman reporter sure has a great voice.
This is sad. Im sorry. I m handicapped and if someone says something to me, I just ignore them.
I'm autistic 53yo with ADD, EUPD and PDA and have a Blue Badge (UK) on the same vehicle as my wife (who requires a powered wheelchair for mobility and a lift on the van making it a little unweildy).
I am also a big, bald, beardy bloke in black at about 17stone...I wonder why I never have any trouble (even when fully hooded, masked and with an eye mask). It's almost a shame.
He had a disabled placard. End of story. Yet his memory loss is BS. That doesn't happen.
Lots of other comments rightly point out that you cannot tell if someone is disabled merely by looking at them.
That comment was NOT okay to make. There are plenty of invisible illnesses that still make us look normal though we are handicap....
I know people with real disabilitys and I don't judge them for those things!!
I love them for who they are as people!!
The report is being vague here. Did the other car have a handicapped placard? If so he had every right to park there, and Peter should have never questioned the guy. With that being said the other driver had absolutely no right to attack him and hopefully was arrested.
Bottom line, if someone has a placard don't question them about it. You have no clue what their disability is.
As a person with empathy and some critical thinking skills, I assume that if you have the placard or plates to park in the handicapped spot, then you need it. And if you don't then GTFO and park somewhere else. And if you have the plates/placard, but use them when they are not for you, you should pay huge fines as well.
The guy should never have kicked the other guy in the back he needs to do some jail time
i forget her name but there was a woman in the handicap spot beside me and a couple was cussing her tell her she didn't need that spot being so young. the parked behind her and wouldn't let her leave. they called the cops. them out of the blue the woman hit her. and the man tried to then i got out of my truck and put a stop to it in a hurry. but anyways while we was waiting on the police to show up she as me if she could use the back seat of my truck and ask me please dont let anyone look in on her. i was like ok. she reached into her car grabbed a pair of shorts and jumped into my truck and about a minute later she got out in shorts and both legs was gone just below the knees. the couple tried to leave after that but now WE everyone around refused to let them leave. the female couple got $7000 fine and 30 days in jail and the man got $5000 fine. i could not tell. not sure but i think she lost both legs when she was like 5 and she was 28 then so she had some time to learn and get them to fit right. i talked to her a couple times after that for court. but then i guess she moved on with life because i never saw her again and in time just lost track of her.
All the better reason as to why the handicapped should have a CCW. At least IMHO.
And just an FYI, but one can walk normally with internal injuries or even a debilitating illness AND NO ONE WOULD EVER KNOW!!.
So never judge, even if you have an MD after your name. And an MD would know better than to try diagnosing someone without examining them.
Not all handicaps are visible...COPD, congestive heart failure, and MS for example.
Any updates on this
While it was not okay for the other person to assault this man, he was being ableist himself! For all he knows the other person could have chronic pain or a heart condition where too much walking is not helpful and the list could go on! Now the fact the other person beat this guy up makes Me think he was parking illegally...nevertheless the guy was wrong to assume just because someone can walk they don’t need a handicapped sticker!
It does not matter whether the guy that stole the spot is disabled or not. You don't assault someone, period.
Did the other car have a handicap placard or plate? This guy, the fella that was attacked assumed the guy was ok because he was walking ok. Again, you can’t assume, because not all are visible. I assume no placard. But, and I’ll be verbally attacked for this, in this day it’s better not to say anything to anyone. It’s maddening but…I had a placard for a long time for asthma. I rarely used it. But glad I had it when I could tell my breathing was getting difficult. Could others tell by looking at me? No.
So… did this man have a copy of the other man’s medical history??? You cannot tell by just looking at someone that they are handicapped or not. He claims he doesn’t remember if he said anything or what he said… yeah, right. Sometimes when you act like an entitled brat you get a response you doin’t want.
I've seen people who park in handicap spots and get out and move like an athlete i don't question them but i know sometimes people will use a parents just to park in one i could have gotten one when i cracked my ankle but i knew i could get along better than others who were worse off than me
Peter seems to be skirting the facts here and claiming an assault and brain injury, but the reality is he inapproriately confronted someone who may have been disabled for using a disabled parking spot. Rather than saying, "You're walking pretty well for being handicap," you could simply politely remind the person that they forgot to put their placard out. If they don't have a handicap placard or plate they will get the message, if they don't then call the police, but don't confront further.
I lived in GA for 29 years. Every 3rd person has a handicap sticker. At Walmart you 'll get run over. There are so many people tooling around on motorized buggies. All it meant in GA was that your too fat to walk.
Fat-shaming much? Also disabilities can lead to gaining weight such as little to no mobility which can leave a person unable to exercise as much as they hope, medications can cause weight gain and there are some conditions that will cause weight gain.