This one was tough sincce they left us with so many questions about so many things but I do think the 3rd Aeons is Finality, Could be very wrong but for now thats my thoughts and March 7th is either from Amphoreus and for some reason is being sealed away in ice again by being too close or is too close to the Rememberance? Its original body? Very interesting! Lastly there is Phainon... oh boy cant wait to see who or what he becomes! Let me know your thoughts on this quest everyone will have their own take on what they thinknis happening lool forward to reading them😊
I'm so locked in with the story I'm so happy they took some time to address the bigger lore stuff and kept the story itself simple which is basically the inverse of Penacony, for as much as I love Penacony it really got wrapped up in its own little world
I agree already story itself was straight forward but so much around it that is insane also nlticed alot of similarities and right away thought of teyvat abyss since we just played that in natlan!
I love how we went from Penacony which was tons of people and factions converging on Penacony, a literal hotel world, to Amphoreus which is the complete opposite as 99% of people there know nothing of the cosmos, and it seems that only the Titans knew about the Aeons before our arrival. Other than The Herta, it’s likely, for at least the next few patches, that the only new playable characters in the main story are versions of the astral express crew and Amphoreus characters, which I love because it’s a great contrast, having a relatively self contained story affecting only one world and not the cosmos itself it seems
Ok, theory time. With the different colors of the infinity symbol, it appears to have a twist in it. Making it a mobius strip. That makes Amphoreus a time loop if traveled continuously; or a method to go back and forth in time since the object on the strip can’t tell if it’s going clockwise or counterclockwise. (Forward and backward in time) That could mean that everyone here is long dead and has been recreated by Fuli and Nous. But since they have to repeat all the memories Fuli has, they need to repeat their destruction in order to get their reset. So flame chaser Demi gods turn into new titans with the destruction, only to allow themselves from the recreation to take the power again and continue the cycle. Fits with Elysium Realm, where everyone is already dead and it’s a sim, and keeps up the Samsara theme from Genshin and HI3. This makes Fuli ‘mother’ as well since her memories have to birth the world after destruction. Does make me nervous that March is actually already dead and going through some kind of loop as well. Being frozen again as a protection from Fuli? So she doesn’t find out. Either way, if we see an amusement park anywhere, I’ll switch to Acheron and grab a box of Kleenex
The way I interpreted the black swan aeon line is that at least an aeon ascended on Amphoreus, not that the Titans are comparable to aeons because they are not. Oronyx is below Fuli for one, and the Titans have their own agendas instead of blindly following their path like aeons must do. They are likely emanators or comparable to emanators though. Like the Heavenly Principles in Genshin for example
Some working theories: 1) March 7th IS Elysia - I feel this is picking up now that March is so close to Amphoreus. They both have a very similar look, and it's very possible that March's origin is she is from Amphoreus, and that her departure is what even allowed the Garden of Recollection to even catch a glimpse of Amphoreus and find out about it's existence. I think sometime in 3.1, or 3.2 - she's going to be sent down into Amphoreus in a desperate bid to save her from her own Six-Phase Ice and I think as she roams around Amphoreus, she's going to rediscover her past as Elysia. While I haven't played Hi3rd, I do know some of the story beats and her being Elysia makes sense where perhaps she was the caretaker over Amphoreus set by the powers that be in the same way Elysia was the caretaker of the Elysian realm. 2) Oronyx is not just a Emanator of Rememberance, she's a direct Daughter of Fuli - This just makes the most sense as of right now in 3.0. Why would Fuli even gaze at the Trailblazer at the very moment they talk personally to Oronyx? My reasoning is that because of the presence of the Stellaron and March's camera, it causes Oronyx to remember her Mother who she kept calling out to and those two combined drew the gaze of Fuli. The very reason the Trailblazer can use Oronyx's prayers is because of the Stellaron, and that connection that is solidified directly to Fuli through receiving Fuli's gaze. Moreover, I think this is evidence that Talanton & Janus were also both Emanators by birth from other Aeons - perhaps for Talanton, it was born from Nous the Erudition while Janus is from the yet unknown 3rd Aeon at play in Amphoreus. 3) Our Mystery 3rd Aeon is Mythus - I think it's easy to forget that Mythus was supposedly birthed from Fuli, and thus him creating Janus would make sense considering how Tribbie is like. Obviously, if the Rememberance is involved - so will the Enigmata to try to sweep everything back under the rug, and it's possible that he is in the ear of Aquilia to prevent Outsiders from getting involved with Amphoreus. In terms of this planet, I'm willing to bet he is only there to stop Nous from picking up certain bits of information that it feels that Nous should never learn about. 3) Amphoreus is a Simulation - Yep, I'm calling this a Simulated World where it's directly controlled by a Emanator or even one of the Aeon's themselves. Nous probably knows about Mythus being there, but with Fuli as a mediator, the three Aeons might be working a tacit agreement. The arrival of the Trailblazers then could be seen as a direct threat to this balance of the three. Considering how when we pick up Sprites - they disappear as ASCII emojis, as well as the look of the Black Tide (which looks a little like the power used by Sustainer of Heavenly Principles in Genshin Impact), as well as the look of Amphoreus from the outside which looks NOTHING like the inside, (And well, ties to Hi3rd) it lends itself to being a Simulated World. Now, why would THREE Aeons & THREE Emanators be working on this planet? I think this is going to be the eventual birthplace of the Aeon of Finality, Terminus. The three Aeons are working toward the goal of preventing it's Birth for as long as possible by making Amphoreus a infinitely looping world, which is why Amphoreus has MAJOR Barriers of entry and exit. Moreover, I think Amphoreus's End is a cyclical in nature as it's possible everything gets reset and forgotten when the End comes to that planet and it all happens again. These are just some theories I have, though some of the other theories in these comments are interesting too. I could be completely wrong, or even completely right - we won't know until 3.x (or even longer) is over, which makes this exciting.
The problem I have with the Stellaron being the "Mother" would be that Oronyx did not care for the trailblazer until they pulled out March's camera. Another thing would be how Oronyx mentions the trailblazer has met "Mother" and she wishes to see us again and for us to find her. If the Stellaron is the Mother, Oronyx would have said that Mother was inside the trailblazer. We also see Oronyx call Fuli as the Sky Father so my hypothesis would be that "Mother" is someone related to remembrance and created the Titans or at least Oronyx and her sisters. I would say that "Mother" might even March and the black tide might have forced fuli to split her into the body(March), memories(Cyrene) and her remembrance power(Mem) I am probably wrong though lol
march is mother or daughter what if protag is kevin of our world? (not kevin from amphoreus checking how acheron called us..) and mother is kiana? kiana go inside IX nihility aeon and didnt back... and us? who knows many questions as always
You have a good point about the camara could be that and I've made quite a few videos now about how March is the body of Fuli preserved in ice perhaps she does hwve something to do with the titans which is why she is not feeling weird and sick, might be some form of defense to being close to amphoreus or the tide forsure, I just thought how we know a Stellaron will factor in somehow and the titans having a mysterious origin, We dont know forsure it was at the Camara but its very likely good catch! Also the titans talk in a wierd manner when castorice translates so its hard to tell when they use "she" and :they've" whonthye are talking about haha, Will definitely explore March 7th more tho thanks for sharing!
@kamikzakip9925 nah I'm fine with our TB being the mother brings out more life in our character backstory and shows more to the eye that we are more than a self insert so it's a you problem lol
The whole 'March 7th is Mother' bit is putting fuel to my personal theory that March is actually Idrila the Beauty sealed away by Fuli due to their paths starting to overlap and not wanting either path to be destroyed. That does mean that the third path in Amphoreus is actually the Beauty in that case...
I am convinced the beauty is the 3rd path. Especially since Herta in passing confirms both the existence of idrilla and emanators of the Beauty. Unrelated Herta uses the same ice march was trapped in to catch the memosnatcher.
@@mariachi3217 It was defined that her path led Heroes and vilains to accomplish themselves in the most spectacular way, its about doing your best and alway trying to be on your peak, to surpass themselves and grow as much as you are willing to
Actually, the time period that Amphoreus most likely existed in is during the time of Rubert I. The Black Tide's description matches the Anti-Organic equation, which destroyed and devasted worlds, including those Aldivun system: which was home to worlds similar to Amphoreus (in fact, this is the system that is suspected to either be where Ratio comes from or in relation). The fascinating part about this is this particular system also suffered the Swarm Disaster that resulted in Nanook's ascension to being an aeon. Notably, the fact that the Titans are infected first and as explore Nikador's memories, you hear of it infecting people. This was a known point of the anti-organic equation jumping from inorganic life to organic life. Thus why Nikador's sanity being swayed as the titans are mechanical in function as are the titankin. Though what's fascinating about this is that this is most likely the third path: destruction. Amphoreus much like Alvidun was destroyed by the Mechanical Empire War. Though unlike Nanook's world, Amphoreus was most likely captured by Fuli before it's annihilation as it had already been tied to Fuli via the titans. Which isn't unique as one can see the relation of Ena and worlds like Sigonia-IV who had known of Ena as just a god without context of what aeons were. The IPC in fact have records of faith as do both the Guild & the Genius Society. Only do worlds who connect to the larger universe come to know of aeons. Without that connection, these worlds are effectively secluded without much knowledge. But another factor is actually March. People seem to forgotten that the first time we delved into her memories with a memokeeper involved resulted in her crossing a memory that was sealed by Fuli. Now why this is important is how the color red is emphasized and the danger posed by this March. Why is this a crucial detail? Phantylia inside Fugue is almost 1:1 with how March encounters this memory and the warnings suggest these memories were sealed for a very crucial reason. But one Flame-Chaser teased resembles March. And we know at least one or more of the Heirs are currently missing. But this is far from the only Destruction motif found. During the original reveal of Amphoreus, you can spot an upside down hand playing chess. This particular hand actually matches an emanator of destruction that hasn't been named. Chess Player. Which the shade of colors used match those used by the heir resembling March and the colors seen with Phantylia inside Fugue. And this is before noting the chained hand bleeding gold on Amphoreus, which loops back to Nanook's form having a number of similarities to the titans own golden blood. Though regarding Fuli as the Sky Father, than March more likely had been a regular member of the time loop of Amphoreus. As Nous's influence most likely resulted in memoria creating a simulation for the memory. Amphoreus shares a number of similarities with Penacony's dreamscape, however the memoria is the physical state of the simulation itself. And you can note that the 'time' used is probable pasts and futures used by the time titan. As well as where you submit the coreflames via the Vortex of Genesis resembles the Dreamflux Reef's memoria fissure. Though unlike Mythus' creation results in dreams, Amphoreus seems to have been an overlapping of Fuli's witnessing the end of worlds and the path of erudition ebing used to create a simulation. But it should end and reset. That is until, the path of destruction came into contact. While hidden, emanators of paths have shown an ability to traverse the stars beyond the system laid by Akavili. And unlike Engimata's use of destroying history and language, Amphoreus more likely has lost important aspects. Namely, who March was as the titan who sees March's camera recognizes her influence. Fuli is known as the Sky Father, so March most likely had been the Mother or one who had been tied to Fuli before Amphoreus' fall. Which may be why Amphoreus has only begun to degrade recently. As March's evil memories may of been her containing the Chess Player, who if subdued by Fuli had ejected her, yet Fuli more likely was unable to remove what comes with an emanator of Destruction, a stelleron. If the resets are degrading much like Elysium Realm was from the Herrescher, than Amphoreus is becoming destabilized with time. It's destruction does come, but it should reset. But given Black Swan's motives: she more likely used the AE as a way to deal with something that Memokeepers can't. And this also would explain Herta's involvement as she herself being a genius society member has ties to Rubert I and her stelleron research, let alone the simulation that is Amphoreus as effectively it is quite similar to Simulated Universe. Why Ratio may be pulled in down the line possibly as he has now worked on the Simulated Universe, but his particular area of expertise and relation to the region would provide better injection for Amphoreus. Oh and suppose it would be the inverse of Penacony as despite the antimatter legion being teased, we instead got a far bigger influence from the Engimata. So, Amphoreus havinf Destruction pop up instead wouldn't be so shocking. That and other paths tend to have other markers, but many of Amphoreus design cues actually overlap with Nanook alone. Let alone the similarities of good intentions pave a path to Hell that's been seen from those previous in relation to a stelleron, which has often had destruction involved. Engimata could come up, but HSR hasn't really let paths go back to back. But food for thought. I could go on, but I think that's a fair bit for one comment.
I would like to highlight that the Titan said “Mother.” As in this only happened AFTER we placed March 7ths camera on the scales. March 7th has to be related to the Titans themselves in order to trigger such a response especially when they refused to help only till they saw March 7th’s camera which somehow triggered Fuli’s help as well. Was she Amphoreus’ version of Gaea? (Since they based it off on Greek Mythology, Gaea is the mother of the Titans) Or something else? Who knows
@@outer1702If I remember correctly.Fully was called father not soon after this implies.Mother was in reference to march herself. I am of the camp that march is related to idrilla in some way shape or form. Or an emanator of the remembrance. Either way she herself was the one called mother by a titan
I’m strongly thinking Mythus, there were too many things pointing to them on world. Phones and cameras called slightly different things for example, a lot of history wiped away. Not to mention the very cybernetic look of the Black tide, and the way it looks makes me think of the virus Rupert released ages ago.
amphoreus also has some similarities with the elysian realm from honkai impact 3rd, and this whole thing about the flame chasers wanting to eliminate the titans/gods is the same thing that the flame chasers wanted to do with the herrschers...... guess we can predict how the story will go from now on.
It may be the path of enigmatic. The enigmatic aeon is born between remembrance and erudition. If erudition predetermines fate and remembrance records it, then enigmatic confuses the past to change its fate.
The ending scene when you choose to leave amphoreus is wild Phainon playing ??? ( what's his real name ? maybe he chose to hide it after he lost everything?) ??? playing ??? ( most likely mem but idk ).
I personally believe believe the third mysterious path is the Destruction, though it seemed TOO obvious to me at first, the constant references to “golden blood” (which could be symbolizing Nanook) and at the end of the story “withering away” makes the involvement of destruction is seem undeniable.
I don't really think Aeon, But rather Emanator. If we take the titans as the Aeons then that would kinda make the Demigods/Heirs Emanators. tho, i can definitely see where you're coming from.
@Ashleycolorful He's definitely going to fail at becoming a demigod.And get rejected by the corflame of strife. By turning to the finality , it would give him a power Beyond the titans and by proxy make a time loop possible.
@@dtk1981 after thinking for some time I think it is a 50/50 chance that this theory actually works because finality seems to be the main aeon of importance in the hsr story so Hsr writers would mostly try to keep the finality a mystery till much later into the story. But who knows what happenes in the upcoming story
There's something strange in this new world. Everyone seems to have an alt color twin. Phainon with mydei, aglaea with castorice, and the three tribie.
I don't think that Sky titan shot us out the sky. It was Nikador, the spear that stuck in the wagon was his. And if i remember correctly Aglea said about Sky titan that entire sity have been destroyed in the legend or story about star ships.
What if the reason aphorise is isolated is due to it being a bubble universe from the sea of quanta and the black tide is the bubble universe being slowly converted into data
Amphoreus is kind like this... Epic good vs bad quest to save humans and help the suffering of Titans good brave human heros and a mysterious abyss ominous evil force, Actually tho... March 7th, Clear flamechaser inspiration from.Hi3, Titans more like aeons the emanators, not a real physical planet with Memories and time, hidden from everyone, 3 aeons 1 we dont know, Cant contact our trailblazers, herta is involved in person wtf is going on here? The game... ya all that dont worry about it for now lol just enjoy this quest isnt amphoreus beautiful? 😊 lol
finality, nihility kiana that was meet by acheron and go inside IX and didnt back, ouroboros so honkai beasts, remembrance = 4 also we can be kevin of our world not the kevin that we see but then what happened to us that we must use stellarion power to be active (for sure we arent alive) also we losing memory. we can be copy or android too. also emanator of finality elio from stellarion hunters so? who is aeon of finality? kevin? weird xd a lot of questions right?
Maybe the best awnser is to give question: What is Divinity? - The Herta Do we know already the 3rd Aeon? What if we never knew about it? What if the 3rd Aeon in this world is still not reveal? Hot take, i think there is a New Aeon soon
@@dtk1981 for being honest here, Finality seem the closer of all, i was thinking of big brain move by Erudition choose a unknow path because if it's something no one know, there not really any good 3rd path maybe for now?
Loved the video cant wait for more 💛 i was hoping i can pick the character to go with. I would pick himeko any time or grandpa welt if march is not feeling good
Aeon Ena from what i know should be also in amphoreus or she was born here... it is interesting... you see the eye? she looks like titan the one that had this eye... + combinate it with aglaea titan sewing threads... gods... she is fully amphoreus. many of these aeons could be born in amphoreus but mainly Ena. so enemy that attacked amphoreus and them could be? hmm Tayzzyronth? or Ouroboros? also dan heng new form preservation? because of coreflame? but Long should fits the most to dan heng race. Ena? also her sign on the ball/galaxy fits the finality sign somehow on amphoreus like a seal. also sunday works perfect with remembrance? aeon Ena, aeon of remembrance, aeon of finality and who next? i think ouroboros fits more than propagation aeon
Im not saying this as a bad thing or anything But why do you keep calling the Chrysos Heirs as the thirteen flame chasers and why did you say "elysia or a variant version of elysia"? Just curious
The chrysos heirs design is inspired by another set of characters from Honkai Impact 3rd. Including Elysia. All of these characters existed in a simulation world replaying past events that ended catastrophically.
Im just throw in this but I think the third path is equilibrium since we know that their emanators is thought as godnin other world. The thing is, we never knownwhich world is it which is sus considering that hsr source materials amd text love to reference to other worlds we never been into. I think the Titans is actually equilibrium emanators since they fit the bill
I feel we might say goodbye to March 7th in 3.x or something, but not a permanent one. Maybe at the end on 3.7 or 3.8, then the focus on the 4.x is trying to get back/save her. The reason? Too many deadflag for march, especially the last photograph event in 2.7. Maybe it's too far fetched.
checking kiana meet npc of memory of chaos... im sure 4.0 we gonna see Kiana no matter what not only elio a path of finality, even if she will have to split IX in half xd
what if amphoreus is 50k years ago? and amphoreus was locked in time like sealed so the whole universe or world before that lost or something. so generally in that world nanook/stellarions won. still nanook is alive... we using stellarion power.. it is so many questions... acheron called us kevin, acheron spoke about kiana/frebs this place? i feel like it can be birth planet of aeon of remembrance and kevin is aeon of finality and sealed it with remembrance so march can be also elysia or her reincarnation. my mind blowing with theories kevin/kiana are finality always. i feel like we gonna see selarion hunters and maybe elio for the first time (elio emanator of finality and his appearance white hair, blue eyes) one is for sure we fits more to stellarion hunters, we can be kevin or some copy or reincarnation but using nanook power? we are somehow related to all of it i mean our protag. stellarion hunters work for finality.
HSR 3.0 look like a mini Teyvat to me. The fake sky The abyss The punishment for knowing the true nature of the world The 3 nation just like Remuria, Enka, Khaenriah Phainon??? I didnt play the whole story yet but i see a lot of similarity here.
ok so first i agree its finality literally it is finality how? time gimmicks second most of the time story is same in different universes yeah phainon is gonna do some shit he will he was said ??? so obviously he is prbly an aeon? heck he could be finality himself...we havent seen face+ herscherr of finality uh uh! something feels similar MAYBE this is how the first aeon was born from an isolated world is shown this could very well be old memories way older and most likely something that "nous" knows most likely is this a supercomputer will know this 100% herta wants the info we know finality is in past since it has seen future maybe this is it and maybe there is a huge prophecy that nous mightve cracked??? the genshin thing idk i mean it could be they are paralleling the story to shwo humans if had powers what will they do? most cases nothing good will come the story was way big like 7+ hour only one quest it was ok but a bit lengthy
My theory. Is that he will fail to become the demigod of strife. All of the other chrysos heirs will inherit a core flame but he will become an emanator of the finality. I think it was strange that he was the first person to Be told about the existence of aeon's and even further witness The trailblazer catching the gaze of fuli. By having the finality be the mystery path and having Phainon be an emanator of the finality we'll give him the power to put amphorus in a perpetual loop. As for the person taking hold of the final coreflame it will either be the trailblazer, March(more likely than not), Dan Heng, or my personal belief Sunday. I believe amphoreus was a world created by Ena the order. That and his new design fits perfectly with that of a chrysos heir
imagine trusting these devs that love playing tricks on players - I think there are more than 3 paths, order could be one of them(eyes everywhere on the murals) and even voracity (greed of trying to exploit the titans)
@Lubossxd 100% agree wouldnt be surprised if Order is tied to this world actually I've talked about that in viceos before too very curious to see! Feel we've only just scratched the surface
@@TheGamerChronicles999 yes I watch all your videos, letsgo. in fact it is common that the more we think we understood what happened, the more we are proven wrong in future patches lmaoooo
Its either the order, the finality, the beauty, destruction. I want to say the permanence but id be surprised if they break away from the Chinese inspo and dragon theme
also that what im saying should be more animations/expressions i dont think game engine of hsr cant do it. also cutscenes or something? i feel like even hi3 had more of it and better, I still waiting for the moment when hsr catch up to hi3 xd for now hsr is the best in theories so interesting. also catch up to hi3? when they had hi3 they were poor company, now they are equal to rockstar that doing GTA 6! we should scream we need more anime cutscenes!
really? even aeon erudition wasnt here? it is still not nice when herta didnt care about check amphoreus... if not welt, sunday, mc and dan heng then she wouldnt care about it. but she should care, she ia genius, scientist she should want to check amphoreus, she is saying like nous already know everything about it... so it isnt interesting for her... so how he can know when he wasnt here.. please explain me that to my baka head xd I just dont understand The Herta behavior.
also kevin? yeah he can be emanator or aeon of finality? or something? kiana finality, kevin from acheron world was also finality. and yes that can be birth place of remembrance and finality. still who is protag? was in script to turn off mc? or something? was he always used stellarion power? what if we are kevin/kiana of hsr and kevin is of amphoreus yeah it is always a lot of questions xd
Puzzles are whatever but too few battles. 2 main ones (3?) is not enough for this much dialogue in a game that wants you to spend for battling. 3.0 also ruined all of my theories about HImeko being something more than just Welt's student and also ends a lot of possible HI3 overlap.
I'm looking forward to play the Story of 3.0 (so, I didn't watched your Video. Sorry about that, Dude). I mean yeah, the Storytelling of HSR isn't flawless, but it's bad either. At least the Characters don't talk about pointless Nonesense and stay on topic most of the time. It's nothing special, but still alright.
This one was tough sincce they left us with so many questions about so many things but I do think the 3rd Aeons is Finality, Could be very wrong but for now thats my thoughts and March 7th is either from Amphoreus and for some reason is being sealed away in ice again by being too close or is too close to the Rememberance? Its original body? Very interesting! Lastly there is Phainon... oh boy cant wait to see who or what he becomes! Let me know your thoughts on this quest everyone will have their own take on what they thinknis happening lool forward to reading them😊
Hey this feels similar almost like genshin impact
I'm so locked in with the story I'm so happy they took some time to address the bigger lore stuff and kept the story itself simple which is basically the inverse of Penacony, for as much as I love Penacony it really got wrapped up in its own little world
I agree already story itself was straight forward but so much around it that is insane also nlticed alot of similarities and right away thought of teyvat abyss since we just played that in natlan!
I love how we went from Penacony which was tons of people and factions converging on Penacony, a literal hotel world, to Amphoreus which is the complete opposite as 99% of people there know nothing of the cosmos, and it seems that only the Titans knew about the Aeons before our arrival. Other than The Herta, it’s likely, for at least the next few patches, that the only new playable characters in the main story are versions of the astral express crew and Amphoreus characters, which I love because it’s a great contrast, having a relatively self contained story affecting only one world and not the cosmos itself it seems
Ok, theory time. With the different colors of the infinity symbol, it appears to have a twist in it. Making it a mobius strip. That makes Amphoreus a time loop if traveled continuously; or a method to go back and forth in time since the object on the strip can’t tell if it’s going clockwise or counterclockwise. (Forward and backward in time)
That could mean that everyone here is long dead and has been recreated by Fuli and Nous. But since they have to repeat all the memories Fuli has, they need to repeat their destruction in order to get their reset. So flame chaser Demi gods turn into new titans with the destruction, only to allow themselves from the recreation to take the power again and continue the cycle. Fits with Elysium Realm, where everyone is already dead and it’s a sim, and keeps up the Samsara theme from Genshin and HI3. This makes Fuli ‘mother’ as well since her memories have to birth the world after destruction. Does make me nervous that March is actually already dead and going through some kind of loop as well. Being frozen again as a protection from Fuli? So she doesn’t find out. Either way, if we see an amusement park anywhere, I’ll switch to Acheron and grab a box of Kleenex
The way I interpreted the black swan aeon line is that at least an aeon ascended on Amphoreus, not that the Titans are comparable to aeons because they are not. Oronyx is below Fuli for one, and the Titans have their own agendas instead of blindly following their path like aeons must do. They are likely emanators or comparable to emanators though. Like the Heavenly Principles in Genshin for example
Some working theories:
1) March 7th IS Elysia - I feel this is picking up now that March is so close to Amphoreus. They both have a very similar look, and it's very possible that March's origin is she is from Amphoreus, and that her departure is what even allowed the Garden of Recollection to even catch a glimpse of Amphoreus and find out about it's existence. I think sometime in 3.1, or 3.2 - she's going to be sent down into Amphoreus in a desperate bid to save her from her own Six-Phase Ice and I think as she roams around Amphoreus, she's going to rediscover her past as Elysia. While I haven't played Hi3rd, I do know some of the story beats and her being Elysia makes sense where perhaps she was the caretaker over Amphoreus set by the powers that be in the same way Elysia was the caretaker of the Elysian realm.
2) Oronyx is not just a Emanator of Rememberance, she's a direct Daughter of Fuli - This just makes the most sense as of right now in 3.0. Why would Fuli even gaze at the Trailblazer at the very moment they talk personally to Oronyx? My reasoning is that because of the presence of the Stellaron and March's camera, it causes Oronyx to remember her Mother who she kept calling out to and those two combined drew the gaze of Fuli. The very reason the Trailblazer can use Oronyx's prayers is because of the Stellaron, and that connection that is solidified directly to Fuli through receiving Fuli's gaze. Moreover, I think this is evidence that Talanton & Janus were also both Emanators by birth from other Aeons - perhaps for Talanton, it was born from Nous the Erudition while Janus is from the yet unknown 3rd Aeon at play in Amphoreus.
3) Our Mystery 3rd Aeon is Mythus - I think it's easy to forget that Mythus was supposedly birthed from Fuli, and thus him creating Janus would make sense considering how Tribbie is like. Obviously, if the Rememberance is involved - so will the Enigmata to try to sweep everything back under the rug, and it's possible that he is in the ear of Aquilia to prevent Outsiders from getting involved with Amphoreus. In terms of this planet, I'm willing to bet he is only there to stop Nous from picking up certain bits of information that it feels that Nous should never learn about.
3) Amphoreus is a Simulation - Yep, I'm calling this a Simulated World where it's directly controlled by a Emanator or even one of the Aeon's themselves. Nous probably knows about Mythus being there, but with Fuli as a mediator, the three Aeons might be working a tacit agreement. The arrival of the Trailblazers then could be seen as a direct threat to this balance of the three. Considering how when we pick up Sprites - they disappear as ASCII emojis, as well as the look of the Black Tide (which looks a little like the power used by Sustainer of Heavenly Principles in Genshin Impact), as well as the look of Amphoreus from the outside which looks NOTHING like the inside, (And well, ties to Hi3rd) it lends itself to being a Simulated World. Now, why would THREE Aeons & THREE Emanators be working on this planet? I think this is going to be the eventual birthplace of the Aeon of Finality, Terminus. The three Aeons are working toward the goal of preventing it's Birth for as long as possible by making Amphoreus a infinitely looping world, which is why Amphoreus has MAJOR Barriers of entry and exit. Moreover, I think Amphoreus's End is a cyclical in nature as it's possible everything gets reset and forgotten when the End comes to that planet and it all happens again.
These are just some theories I have, though some of the other theories in these comments are interesting too. I could be completely wrong, or even completely right - we won't know until 3.x (or even longer) is over, which makes this exciting.
The problem I have with the Stellaron being the "Mother" would be that Oronyx did not care for the trailblazer until they pulled out March's camera. Another thing would be how Oronyx mentions the trailblazer has met "Mother" and she wishes to see us again and for us to find her. If the Stellaron is the Mother, Oronyx would have said that Mother was inside the trailblazer. We also see Oronyx call Fuli as the Sky Father so my hypothesis would be that "Mother" is someone related to remembrance and created the Titans or at least Oronyx and her sisters.
I would say that "Mother" might even March and the black tide might have forced fuli to split her into the body(March), memories(Cyrene) and her remembrance power(Mem)
I am probably wrong though lol
march is mother or daughter
what if protag is kevin of our world? (not kevin from amphoreus checking how acheron called us..) and mother is kiana?
kiana go inside IX nihility aeon and didnt back... and us? who knows
many questions as always
generally? it is always honkai/quanta energy, but in hsr honkai is Ouroboros so one of the two villains, the biggest is nanook and his stellarions
You have a good point about the camara could be that and I've made quite a few videos now about how March is the body of Fuli preserved in ice perhaps she does hwve something to do with the titans which is why she is not feeling weird and sick, might be some form of defense to being close to amphoreus or the tide forsure, I just thought how we know a Stellaron will factor in somehow and the titans having a mysterious origin, We dont know forsure it was at the Camara but its very likely good catch! Also the titans talk in a wierd manner when castorice translates so its hard to tell when they use "she" and :they've" whonthye are talking about haha, Will definitely explore March 7th more tho thanks for sharing!
@kamikzakip9925 nah I'm fine with our TB being the mother brings out more life in our character backstory and shows more to the eye that we are more than a self insert so it's a you problem lol
i think it is related that march 7th looks like the cameo of one of the 12th
The whole 'March 7th is Mother' bit is putting fuel to my personal theory that March is actually Idrila the Beauty sealed away by Fuli due to their paths starting to overlap and not wanting either path to be destroyed. That does mean that the third path in Amphoreus is actually the Beauty in that case...
I am convinced the beauty is the 3rd path. Especially since Herta in passing confirms both the existence of idrilla and emanators of the Beauty.
Unrelated Herta uses the same ice march was trapped in to catch the memosnatcher.
Not to mention, Beauty still is a very vague path in terms of what it actually represents.
@@dtk1981 Herta call herself the most beautiful in the universe....
@@mariachi3217 It was defined that her path led Heroes and vilains to accomplish themselves in the most spectacular way, its about doing your best and alway trying to be on your peak, to surpass themselves and grow as much as you are willing to
Herta is giving me mad Hexenzirkel vibes
Actually, the time period that Amphoreus most likely existed in is during the time of Rubert I. The Black Tide's description matches the Anti-Organic equation, which destroyed and devasted worlds, including those Aldivun system: which was home to worlds similar to Amphoreus (in fact, this is the system that is suspected to either be where Ratio comes from or in relation). The fascinating part about this is this particular system also suffered the Swarm Disaster that resulted in Nanook's ascension to being an aeon. Notably, the fact that the Titans are infected first and as explore Nikador's memories, you hear of it infecting people. This was a known point of the anti-organic equation jumping from inorganic life to organic life. Thus why Nikador's sanity being swayed as the titans are mechanical in function as are the titankin.
Though what's fascinating about this is that this is most likely the third path: destruction. Amphoreus much like Alvidun was destroyed by the Mechanical Empire War. Though unlike Nanook's world, Amphoreus was most likely captured by Fuli before it's annihilation as it had already been tied to Fuli via the titans. Which isn't unique as one can see the relation of Ena and worlds like Sigonia-IV who had known of Ena as just a god without context of what aeons were. The IPC in fact have records of faith as do both the Guild & the Genius Society. Only do worlds who connect to the larger universe come to know of aeons. Without that connection, these worlds are effectively secluded without much knowledge.
But another factor is actually March. People seem to forgotten that the first time we delved into her memories with a memokeeper involved resulted in her crossing a memory that was sealed by Fuli. Now why this is important is how the color red is emphasized and the danger posed by this March. Why is this a crucial detail? Phantylia inside Fugue is almost 1:1 with how March encounters this memory and the warnings suggest these memories were sealed for a very crucial reason. But one Flame-Chaser teased resembles March. And we know at least one or more of the Heirs are currently missing.
But this is far from the only Destruction motif found. During the original reveal of Amphoreus, you can spot an upside down hand playing chess. This particular hand actually matches an emanator of destruction that hasn't been named. Chess Player. Which the shade of colors used match those used by the heir resembling March and the colors seen with Phantylia inside Fugue. And this is before noting the chained hand bleeding gold on Amphoreus, which loops back to Nanook's form having a number of similarities to the titans own golden blood.
Though regarding Fuli as the Sky Father, than March more likely had been a regular member of the time loop of Amphoreus. As Nous's influence most likely resulted in memoria creating a simulation for the memory. Amphoreus shares a number of similarities with Penacony's dreamscape, however the memoria is the physical state of the simulation itself. And you can note that the 'time' used is probable pasts and futures used by the time titan. As well as where you submit the coreflames via the Vortex of Genesis resembles the Dreamflux Reef's memoria fissure. Though unlike Mythus' creation results in dreams, Amphoreus seems to have been an overlapping of Fuli's witnessing the end of worlds and the path of erudition ebing used to create a simulation.
But it should end and reset. That is until, the path of destruction came into contact. While hidden, emanators of paths have shown an ability to traverse the stars beyond the system laid by Akavili. And unlike Engimata's use of destroying history and language, Amphoreus more likely has lost important aspects. Namely, who March was as the titan who sees March's camera recognizes her influence. Fuli is known as the Sky Father, so March most likely had been the Mother or one who had been tied to Fuli before Amphoreus' fall. Which may be why Amphoreus has only begun to degrade recently. As March's evil memories may of been her containing the Chess Player, who if subdued by Fuli had ejected her, yet Fuli more likely was unable to remove what comes with an emanator of Destruction, a stelleron.
If the resets are degrading much like Elysium Realm was from the Herrescher, than Amphoreus is becoming destabilized with time. It's destruction does come, but it should reset. But given Black Swan's motives: she more likely used the AE as a way to deal with something that Memokeepers can't. And this also would explain Herta's involvement as she herself being a genius society member has ties to Rubert I and her stelleron research, let alone the simulation that is Amphoreus as effectively it is quite similar to Simulated Universe. Why Ratio may be pulled in down the line possibly as he has now worked on the Simulated Universe, but his particular area of expertise and relation to the region would provide better injection for Amphoreus.
Oh and suppose it would be the inverse of Penacony as despite the antimatter legion being teased, we instead got a far bigger influence from the Engimata. So, Amphoreus havinf Destruction pop up instead wouldn't be so shocking. That and other paths tend to have other markers, but many of Amphoreus design cues actually overlap with Nanook alone. Let alone the similarities of good intentions pave a path to Hell that's been seen from those previous in relation to a stelleron, which has often had destruction involved. Engimata could come up, but HSR hasn't really let paths go back to back.
But food for thought. I could go on, but I think that's a fair bit for one comment.
I would like to highlight that the Titan said “Mother.” As in this only happened AFTER we placed March 7ths camera on the scales. March 7th has to be related to the Titans themselves in order to trigger such a response especially when they refused to help only till they saw March 7th’s camera which somehow triggered Fuli’s help as well. Was she Amphoreus’ version of Gaea? (Since they based it off on Greek Mythology, Gaea is the mother of the Titans) Or something else? Who knows
Could it not just be the Rememberence Aeon? We’ve known that March has some connection to it. Although the connection she has is still a mystery.
@@outer1702If I remember correctly.Fully was called father not soon after this implies.Mother was in reference to march herself. I am of the camp that march is related to idrilla in some way shape or form. Or an emanator of the remembrance. Either way she herself was the one called mother by a titan
@@outer1702probably the beauty
I’m strongly thinking Mythus, there were too many things pointing to them on world. Phones and cameras called slightly different things for example, a lot of history wiped away. Not to mention the very cybernetic look of the Black tide, and the way it looks makes me think of the virus Rupert released ages ago.
Also the insects that disappear in emoji looking faces, so weird
amphoreus also has some similarities with the elysian realm from honkai impact 3rd, and this whole thing about the flame chasers wanting to eliminate the titans/gods is the same thing that the flame chasers wanted to do with the herrschers...... guess we can predict how the story will go from now on.
I believe the mother was a call to March as oronyx caked out mother after TB used March’s camera….
I really liked the way they told his part. Puzzles>bloated dialogue anytime and people dont have to do it in one day
Lets go been waiting for this!!
It may be the path of enigmatic.
The enigmatic aeon is born between remembrance and erudition.
If erudition predetermines fate and remembrance records it, then enigmatic confuses the past to change its fate.
The ending scene when you choose to leave amphoreus is wild
Phainon playing ??? ( what's his real name ? maybe he chose to hide it after he lost everything?)
??? playing ??? ( most likely mem but idk ).
if you read the small tale in the book you gain at the end of the patch, it said phainon is not his real name as well. its just a cover.
Antoher raiden b parker ahh scene
Mayber kephale kaslana or something
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I personally believe believe the third mysterious path is the Destruction, though it seemed TOO obvious to me at first, the constant references to “golden blood” (which could be symbolizing Nanook) and at the end of the story “withering away” makes the involvement of destruction is seem undeniable.
For how long I have watched anime I think Phainon could become the aeon of finality by the end of the story
I don't really think Aeon, But rather Emanator. If we take the titans as the Aeons then that would kinda make the Demigods/Heirs Emanators.
tho, i can definitely see where you're coming from.
@Ashleycolorful He's definitely going to fail at becoming a demigod.And get rejected by the corflame of strife. By turning to the finality , it would give him a power Beyond the titans and by proxy make a time loop possible.
@@dtk1981 after thinking for some time I think it is a 50/50 chance that this theory actually works because finality seems to be the main aeon of importance in the hsr story so Hsr writers would mostly try to keep the finality a mystery till much later into the story. But who knows what happenes in the upcoming story
Right, especially when we consider his resemblance to kevin kaslan
There's something strange in this new world. Everyone seems to have an alt color twin. Phainon with mydei, aglaea with castorice, and the three tribie.
Amphoreus being isolated world 🌎 really no joke, that even a part of Astral Express got shot the moment they enter that world XD.
I don't think that Sky titan shot us out the sky. It was Nikador, the spear that stuck in the wagon was his. And if i remember correctly Aglea said about Sky titan that entire sity have been destroyed in the legend or story about star ships.
was long but good think 3.1 will be even better! can u explain each titan?
For me the infinity simbol around amphoreus also looks like a mobius strip
What if the reason aphorise is isolated is due to it being a bubble universe from the sea of quanta and the black tide is the bubble universe being slowly converted into data
Amphoreus is kind like this...
Epic good vs bad quest to save humans and help the suffering of Titans good brave human heros and a mysterious abyss ominous evil force,
Actually tho... March 7th, Clear flamechaser inspiration from.Hi3, Titans more like aeons the emanators, not a real physical planet with Memories and time, hidden from everyone, 3 aeons 1 we dont know, Cant contact our trailblazers, herta is involved in person wtf is going on here?
The game... ya all that dont worry about it for now lol just enjoy this quest isnt amphoreus beautiful? 😊 lol
finality, nihility kiana that was meet by acheron and go inside IX and didnt back, ouroboros so honkai beasts, remembrance = 4
also we can be kevin of our world not the kevin that we see but then what happened to us that we must use stellarion power to be active (for sure we arent alive) also we losing memory.
we can be copy or android too. also emanator of finality elio from stellarion hunters so? who is aeon of finality? kevin? weird xd
a lot of questions right?
Maybe the best awnser is to give question:
What is Divinity? - The Herta
Do we know already the 3rd Aeon? What if we never knew about it? What if the 3rd Aeon in this world is still not reveal?
Hot take, i think there is a New Aeon soon
Its either the destruction, the beauty, the order, or the finality
@@dtk1981 for being honest here, Finality seem the closer of all, i was thinking of big brain move by Erudition choose a unknow path because if it's something no one know, there not really any good 3rd path maybe for now?
great video I agree about the finality but I think maybe march lived on this world? idk I think pictures when she sees them will bring back a memory
Loved the video cant wait for more 💛 i was hoping i can pick the character to go with. I would pick himeko any time or grandpa welt if march is not feeling good
Aeon Ena from what i know should be also in amphoreus or she was born here... it is interesting... you see the eye? she looks like titan the one that had this eye... + combinate it with aglaea titan sewing threads... gods... she is fully amphoreus. many of these aeons could be born in amphoreus but mainly Ena. so enemy that attacked amphoreus and them could be? hmm Tayzzyronth? or Ouroboros? also dan heng new form preservation? because of coreflame? but Long should fits the most to dan heng race. Ena? also her sign on the ball/galaxy fits the finality sign somehow on amphoreus like a seal. also sunday works perfect with remembrance? aeon Ena, aeon of remembrance, aeon of finality and who next? i think ouroboros fits more than propagation aeon
Terminus of course, the finality
The third path is gonna be the Destruction. We’re gonna see Phainon ascend and become Nanook.
Or not… because Nanook’s ascension is well documented. 😅
Im not saying this as a bad thing or anything
But why do you keep calling the Chrysos Heirs as the thirteen flame chasers and why did you say "elysia or a variant version of elysia"? Just curious
The chrysos heirs design is inspired by another set of characters from Honkai Impact 3rd. Including Elysia. All of these characters existed in a simulation world replaying past events that ended catastrophically.
@nierven oh i do understand that part im asking why is he mentioning those names when there is only 12? Chrysos Heirs
Im just throw in this but I think the third path is equilibrium since we know that their emanators is thought as godnin other world. The thing is, we never knownwhich world is it which is sus considering that hsr source materials amd text love to reference to other worlds we never been into. I think the Titans is actually equilibrium emanators since they fit the bill
aren't there only 12 flamechasers in hsr which corresponds to 12 titans?
I feel we might say goodbye to March 7th in 3.x or something, but not a permanent one. Maybe at the end on 3.7 or 3.8, then the focus on the 4.x is trying to get back/save her. The reason? Too many deadflag for march, especially the last photograph event in 2.7.
Maybe it's too far fetched.
checking kiana meet npc of memory of chaos...
im sure 4.0 we gonna see Kiana no matter what not only elio a path of finality, even if she will have to split IX in half xd
2:04 didnt this debate already happened at the end of Penacony?
@@kri1003 she recommended it but the debate happened at the very start of the quest
The planet is just like teyvat too
MY POOKIE MARCH😭😭😭😭
Curious about Castorice conection with death but great video❤
what if amphoreus is 50k years ago? and amphoreus was locked in time like sealed so the whole universe or world before that lost or something.
so generally in that world nanook/stellarions won.
still nanook is alive... we using stellarion power.. it is so many questions... acheron called us kevin, acheron spoke about kiana/frebs
this place? i feel like it can be birth planet of aeon of remembrance and kevin is aeon of finality and sealed it with remembrance so march can be also elysia or her reincarnation. my mind blowing with theories
kevin/kiana are finality always. i feel like we gonna see selarion hunters and maybe elio for the first time (elio emanator of finality and his appearance white hair, blue eyes)
one is for sure we fits more to stellarion hunters, we can be kevin or some copy or reincarnation but using nanook power? we are somehow related to all of it i mean our protag.
stellarion hunters work for finality.
HSR 3.0 look like a mini Teyvat to me.
The fake sky
The abyss
The punishment for knowing the true nature of the world
The 3 nation just like Remuria, Enka, Khaenriah
Phainon???
I didnt play the whole story yet but i see a lot of similarity here.
4:20 I thought it was Nikador
I was waiting for this…
ok so first i agree its finality literally it is finality how? time gimmicks second
most of the time story is same in different universes yeah phainon is gonna do some shit he will
he was said ??? so obviously he is prbly an aeon? heck he could be finality himself...we havent seen face+ herscherr of finality uh uh! something feels similar MAYBE this is how the first aeon was born from an isolated world is shown
this could very well be old memories way older and most likely something that "nous" knows most likely is this a supercomputer will know this 100% herta wants the info
we know finality is in past since it has seen future maybe this is it and maybe there is a huge prophecy that nous mightve cracked???
the genshin thing idk i mean it could be they are paralleling the story to shwo humans if had powers what will they do? most cases nothing good will come
the story was way big like 7+ hour only one quest it was ok but a bit lengthy
My theory.
Is that he will fail to become the demigod of strife. All of the other chrysos heirs will inherit a core flame but he will become an emanator of the finality. I think it was strange that he was the first person to Be told about the existence of aeon's and even further witness
The trailblazer catching the gaze of fuli. By having the finality be the mystery path and having Phainon be an emanator of the finality we'll give him the power to put amphorus in a perpetual loop. As for the person taking hold of the final coreflame it will either be the trailblazer, March(more likely than not), Dan Heng, or my personal belief Sunday. I believe amphoreus was a world created by Ena the order. That and his new design fits perfectly with that of a chrysos heir
imagine trusting these devs that love playing tricks on players - I think there are more than 3 paths, order could be one of them(eyes everywhere on the murals) and even voracity (greed of trying to exploit the titans)
@Lubossxd 100% agree wouldnt be surprised if Order is tied to this world actually I've talked about that in viceos before too very curious to see! Feel we've only just scratched the surface
@@TheGamerChronicles999 yes I watch all your videos, letsgo. in fact it is common that the more we think we understood what happened, the more we are proven wrong in future patches lmaoooo
Its either the order, the finality, the beauty, destruction.
I want to say the permanence but id be surprised if they break away from the Chinese inspo and dragon theme
also that what im saying should be more animations/expressions i dont think game engine of hsr cant do it.
also cutscenes or something? i feel like even hi3 had more of it and better, I still waiting for the moment when hsr catch up to hi3 xd
for now hsr is the best in theories so interesting. also catch up to hi3? when they had hi3 they were poor company, now they are equal to rockstar that doing GTA 6!
we should scream we need more anime cutscenes!
thank god im not the only one who was annoyed by the stupid puzzle
I found kianna 😊
really? even aeon erudition wasnt here? it is still not nice when herta didnt care about check amphoreus... if not welt, sunday, mc and dan heng then she wouldnt care about it.
but she should care, she ia genius, scientist she should want to check amphoreus, she is saying like nous already know everything about it... so it isnt interesting for her... so how he can know when he wasnt here.. please explain me that to my baka head xd
I just dont understand The Herta behavior.
also kevin? yeah he can be emanator or aeon of finality? or something?
kiana finality, kevin from acheron world was also finality.
and yes that can be birth place of remembrance and finality.
still who is protag? was in script to turn off mc? or something? was he always used stellarion power? what if we are kevin/kiana of hsr and kevin is of amphoreus yeah it is always a lot of questions xd
Puzzles are whatever but too few battles. 2 main ones (3?) is not enough for this much dialogue in a game that wants you to spend for battling.
3.0 also ruined all of my theories about HImeko being something more than just Welt's student and also ends a lot of possible HI3 overlap.
Calling March7th mother?
I'm looking forward to play the Story of 3.0 (so, I didn't watched your Video. Sorry about that, Dude). I mean yeah, the Storytelling of HSR isn't flawless, but it's bad either. At least the Characters don't talk about pointless Nonesense and stay on topic most of the time. It's nothing special, but still alright.
Im might be one of the few people that sont care about March 😂 but i want to see how the story plays out in liking it so far
2:30 not relatable
kinda weird when its silent from time to time
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