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Ace Combat Fan Apparently if you defend WW2 Germany’s actions in any way (in this case talking about Dresden) you’re considered a nutzee... It’s sad really
@@adiarka4543 Good, anyone who tries to defend Germany in WW2 is wrong. However, this is obviously a case of UA-cam's algorithm being too sensitive, which is nothing new.
When you also consider the nukes where likely B53 or possibly tsar bomba sized to cover that much area with only 7 nukes so it's even more surprising that only 12,000 died.
Personally I want the next Ace Combat to be set on the Verusean continent. We never really explored it and the other countries there besides Yuktobania. I really want to play as a Yuke pilot.
@darssin4260 Regardless of where you lie on the political compass we all agree that Belka did nothing wrong. The only people who deny belka's innocence are the government and media
I grew up knowing that Osea is the protector of peace in strangereal, but they were actually the opposite. Oh God why.. My mind is now clear.. Belka did nothing wrong indeed. We need an Ace Combat with a Belkan Protagonist right now and restore their country back to its glory. I'm a pro-Belka now. Thanks to you ACF.
Maybe the three DLC missions could be about that. ADF planes, THE PLAN OF THE TEN MILLIONS, TROLLEY PROBLEM... You know It could have relaction with the V2s or with other polemics actions from Osea
I'm also thinking part about an Osean politician who wants to reveal the truth too, showing his people that his country also contributed to the Belkan War.
I actually have a concept: The protagonist is a pilot named *Rohann Schimdt* A 26 year old Belkan pilot who survived the Belkan war.. But his family didn't.. All his family members (Dad, mom, elder brother and uncle) died in the bombing runs of hoffnung and Rohann was triying to stop the allied bombings from killing his family.. He failed and he had a severe depression until January 2 1996.. Rohann does not accept the defeat of Belka and the loss of his family so he allies with a friend named Franz Hopper and a Belkan General as his commanding officer. He creates a Squadron named "Red Slayers" with his friend Franz. And he will also destroy with him important Osean objectives such as high profile personalities or experimental facilites and try to recapture the Belkan south ammunition factories claimed now by Osean troops. Like in Ace combat Zero, he willbe able to fight Osean and Ustio fighter aces. His favourite plane is the SU47 Berkut. The thing would be set In 1996. And he would fight Cipher in the final battle in the Valais Mountain to revenge his family. What do you guys think? *IS NOT OFFICIAL, MAYBE I WILL ADD MORE ABOUT THIS CONCEPT*
FoxyPercival714 Nahh, they’re said to be an exceptionally cold Nordic country which has poor soil, poor resources, and poor economy but were able to become leaders of military technology due to the necessity of becoming artisans and crafters for importing foodstuffs into the areas which couldn’t grow crops. Just like the real Germany, but they fished as well. And also usually just raided food, but eh.
Cipher did indeed committed war crimes. Part of the reason why Pixy hated him. Ace Combat Zero is a super morally grey Ace Combat game, which is one of the reason why it’s so great. The only reason Cipher’s crimes were ignored was because well, Osea and they were the victor, which is “justice”.
I mean this is just geopolitics. Osea recognizes it faces 3 potential existential threats. 1. Yuktobania: the only true rival to Osea in terms of resources. 2. Belka: due to proximity, and the fact it is the only power that Osea's Navy can't stop due to the land connection. 3. Erusea(unified Usea): A unified Usea would also rival Osea in terms of resources, and Erusea is well positioned to unify Usea So Osea has to have a strategy to either ham-string or co-opt these powers, so lets examine Osea's strategy with these three powers. 1. Yuktobania: wage a cold war and then later co-opt them into maintaining a G2 World Order where Osea and Yuktobania both have a vested interest in maintaining the global order in order to prevent the rise of new challengers to their shared hegemony. 2. Belka: Take advantage of Osea's economic strength to drive Belka to financial ruin with an arms race and use this crisis to weaken Belka and take the border regions that give Osea access to resources and a good defensive buffer. Ultimate goal is knock Belka from Great Power Status. 3. Erusea(unified Usea): Become involved in internal Usean politics and make security agreements to keep Usea divided (Usean Rebellion), support the ISAF forces with material support in the Continental War(how do you think Mobius 1 went from F-4E to F-22A), and finally send Osean troops as part of the IUN-PKF to keep Erusea down and make sure they can't take over all of Usea.
Osea was neutral during the continental war (and about 2/3 were Harling's presidency). Are the ISAF gets support from the Oseans, Acepedia didn't say anything about it-and like SlyCooperFan1 said, ISAF isn't Osea's payroll. Also, for (possible issue(you can skip this one out) ) the ISEV, it was to restore Erusea post-apocalyptic situation (even though they didn't believe this and think Osea wanted to exploit their resources-similar to what Osean did to Belka)
Oseans kept repairing the lasting Stonehenge turret expecting Arsenal Birds would get stolen or for them to have air superiority on a foreign continent? :)
Since your character's nationality is never given I always pretend I am a Belkan. The Knight's blood flows through my veins, how else am I such a master Pilot? That's why Cipher won the Belkan war for the Allies. The only one that can stop a Belkan, is another Belkan.
@@DokturProfesur I support this theory that Cipher is Belkan. Furthermore Pixy was revealed to be Belkan. That is why Cipher and Pixy were an unstoppable force. It makes their friendship and brotherhood even somewhat tragic when they had to fight each other in the end :( [This is my opinion though :)]
Amazing how we were led to believe that Osea is one of those peaceful superpowers that cannot do anything wrong in AC5, but then AC0 and AC7 blow that idea straight out of the water. It's a real nice shift of perspective. What you think you're fighting for could be completely wrong. In war, no one wins.
Briar Mason I mean, AC5 showed you Osea’s true colors. Wardog squadron was blamed for the bombings on schools on Yuktobania, while also making the whole country turn against Sand Island squadron later on the game because some general almost murdered them.
outside using cons as pilots what about 7 said osea wasn't peaceful? The whole lighthouse war started because a dumb eursa princess let herself get worked up by a belken spy to start a war with osea while completely ignoring hardlings intentions of the space elevators
But Osea started the war. Of course I canto approce the 8492 Squadron cationes at the Endnof Ace Combat 5. But I cannot approve Osea's arrogance against the Balkan people
Principality of Bella, my question to you is (please answer it on your comments and thanks): Does The Principality of Belka Recognizes The Republic of China (Taiwan) diplomatically and officially ?
It's hilarious that the nation which employs penal battalions/squadrons to do its fighting is painted in such a positive light throughout the games despite its actions.
Every country IRL used penal units up until recently. The reason we've stopped isn't for ethical concerns, but because there hasn't been a conflict big enough to warrant their use.
@@cybersilver5816 The US didn't use penal units during the first or second world wars. Were those "not big enough"? No, the reason people stopped using them is because having ill-disciplined, antagonistic soldiers who actively hate the government they're serving isn't exactly a wonderful combination for ensuring the fighting effectiveness of the unit. You can see this when a lot of the penal unit soldiers of the Nazi regime actively deserted INTO RESISTANCE MOVEMENTS. Not just leaving their post, but actively working against the country that gave them weapons to begin with.
Which was a very, very stupid thing to do on Osea's part. Imagine handing a multi-million dollar fighter jet with ammo and ordnance to a disgruntled fighter pilot who hates you and your country. AC7 implies unit 444 mutinied on Tyler island.
"Osea poked the bear too much" Yet they trying to make it look like the bear were potential danger and make themselves rightfully to strike back the bear
This really makes me wish that in AC8 we'll play as a Belkan pilot, flying a non-NATO made plane (canonically). Would also be cool if we get to command a squad of 3 COFFIN UAVs (to compensate for Belka's loss of pilots). The cherry on top is if the plot is about reunifying South Belka into the mainland (and if Pixy shows up as a mentor figure, that'll be a perfect 10/10 from me).
President Irina Vladimirovna Putina This right here. It’s funny how many wars occur in Strangereal, yet there aren’t any records showing a full-scale world war (afaik). That’d be awesome to see, especially how it will all end up and connect with Ace Combat 3. Maybe all the countries were exhausted of all recources and/or manpower and companies ended up taking over?
I want the next ace combat to take place on the Verusan continent and play as a Yuke pilot. It's the only Strangereal continent we never really fully explored. I want to know what type of country Sotoa is.
@@MrBangijal That's debateable if the good guys are always good and the bsd guys are always bad. I mean Osean bombers firebombed Hoffnung for crying out loud!
Wow, this has to be one of your best videos, ACF. :o I gotta admit that, since I played AC5 years ago, then Zero and 04, I did not pay such an attention to details regarding "the Belkan side" of the conflicts (guess I was brainwashed by OBC as well.) You've just cleaned up the dust from my memories regarding the good Belkan actions and you've also opened up my eyes to really understand that Osea is not the so-called righteous country it claims to be. Wow. *Mindblow.*
Now that. think about it... maybe Belka keeps indirectly building this futuristic weapons because other countries keep guilt-tripping Belkan scientists into it 🤔🤔
Man, if only Osea hadn't screwed Belka over the natural resource thingy, and actually helped them stabilize, they would have had a valuable ally. It's not like Belka was opposed to co-operation, since they agreed to the resource gathering project.
pretty much how today Russia stay the antagonist when they tried to reconcile after the collapse of the URSS just to get rejected and gang up on still against the war though All my heart to Ukraine
That was literally the one chance for them to get on better terms, and they screwed it up, its better to have a allied frenemy than an enemy that will forever remember what you did to them til death
You know after watching this, I really hope that Bandai Namco decide to let us play as the Belkans in Ace Combat 8 I'm getting bored playing for the Osean side.
That’s right they did nothing wrong! ... Besides having poor budgeting skills throughout the 1980’s. And buying all of those super weapons like Excalibur, V2 from Project Pendragon, ADFX-01 & ADFX-02 Morgan, and XB-0. And chemical laser weaponry.
I don't get to understand everything in the video but the reasons that Ace Combat Fan said of Belka detonated 7 nuclear warhead to it's own soils already making me believe that Belka is innocent and try to protect it's citizens.
"Instead of outright killing President Harling, they gave him an all-inclusive trip to Stier Castle, one that he could not refuse." Ahahahahahaha, you can even hear ACF having trouble keeping the laughter from his voice. This video was really good. It kind of reminded me of SlyCooperFan1's Everything Wrong With Ace Combat series in tone and style.
That's not what Pixy believed at all. He didn't see it as Belka=Good, Osea=Bad, he saw the Belkans and Oseans squabbling and throwing away lives over territory, and wanted to get rid of nations to destroy the corruption.
Ace Combat The Belkan War was my first Ace Combat game. Haven't been able to play it for some time. It has far more happening in it than I thought. Thanks for the vids.
I first played AC5 2 months after it’s release on PS2. Following that I fell into ACZ. In both games I drew the ever growing opinion that Belka was the aggressor, the cancer. But as I’ve watched several videos across many channels, this one sets in stone that, not using the meme just to use it, Belka did nothing wrong. I find it absolutely crazy how much the lore gets picked apart and instead it destroys your first impressions (Belka invaded Ustio unjustly) and you start to see logic behind the arguments like as this gentleman just said. OBN would indeed alter the report to cast a guilty shadow over Belka and it’s been proven in this video. I’m off to download Project Ulysses for HOI4 and take back what’s ours. #BelkaFirst
i love how AC fans are very capable of seeing bias and historical injustices on both sides, and with that knowledge defend a small nation but with immense power and resources. i feel like ive found a community that has truly made a new world where interesting politics can thrive without the burdens of the real world im not sure how I feel about Belka (apart from loving the ADFX Morgan), but I think I can say confidently burn Osea to the ground!
@@xymaryai8283 I mean, all of the boss names are German so yeah. Except for Pixy, that doesn’t make sense. My headcanon is it’s a cover name and his real name is Lauri Falk.
A friend on mine who’s never heard of ace combat watched a video like this, He automatically got confused and thought it was a video about Balkan countries with a weird conspiracy map.
Well your friend would be like *WELCOME TO ACE COMBAT WORLD BUDDY, WHERE HERE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT REAL LIFE COUNTRY INSTEAD WE HAVE OSEA, BELKA, YUKES AND ANYTHING ABOUT IT* 😂
I am half Belkan half Saudinian, both nations were destroyed by their neighbors, who hungry of power brought war and despair over our people. I speak for all ethnic Saudinians and all Akrans to stand up against the oppression and restore the homeland we've lost many years ago. AVE!
while most of this is true, the 8492/229th had not only direct ties to the Belkan military structure, but to the Belkan government itself through the OADF aggressor program. Grabacr was formed almost entirely of former South Belkans who resented partnership with Osea, and the Belkan government chose to submit them to the program despite their very open disdain for Osea, with the knowledge that the grey men were already an existential threat to peaceful relations with their much larger neighbor, and not releasing such information at any point in the conflict to them.
The Grey Men were secret very few people in the Belkan Government were even aware of the existence of them. Also those squadrons were taken from Belka by the winners in 1996 after the reformation of the air force so they were never part of the new belkan military for any real length of time. If the two super powers were stupid enough to take pilots that were obvious in their anger towards them they have no one to blame but themselves. Those squadrons also were not just made up of Belkans they had natives of the two nations be cycled through them and part of the squadrons for long periods of time.
Belkan, but with a plot twist of this Belkan being a Harling sympathizer and fighting against a post-Harling Osea, which took a deep dive in a corruption and, basically, abandoned everything Harling stood for (which isn't so far-fetched, with how they were planning to kill Trigger the second he's no longer needed, not to mention the penal squadrons). Might make for a good moment "WHY AM I, A BORN AND RAISED BELKAN, FIGHTING TO UPKEEP THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF VINCENT HARLING, AN OSEAN PRESIDENT, WHILE YOU, OSEANS, ARE DOING YOUR DAMNEDEST TO ERASE THE PEACE AND UNITY HE STOOD FOR?!".
Thank you for your absolutely needed journalism. I finally realised why I was disappointed with the ending of AC7. The final boss and all that wasn't the problem... But Osea did still exist. I was happy when I got the game... There was a opportunity with the story to finaly revenge Hoffnung and every Civilian Killed by Osean armory and soldiers, to finally #BurnOseaToTheGround ... Strangereal will get what it deserves... Sooner or later
so a bunch of people who had nothing to do with that war have to be burned to the ground interesting 100% something a side who "did nothing wrong" would say
For a country that small, Belka sure did shook the strangereal world multiple times and it’s still shaking. Not surprised that Pixy was a Belkan...the greatest wingman ever lived in Strangreal.
We were tricked into fighting Belka by the evil warmongering Oseans! Belkans are our true allies! Glory to Belka from Yuktobania!!! #BURNOSEATOTHEGROUND #YuktobaniaEruseaEstovakiaBelkaLeasatharebrothersinarms
Check the footage of Nikanor to the SBN on December 27th-31st 2010 circum-pacific war to which he admitted that it was Belka behind the war and also Lighthouse War II Usean Continental war footage because your country drop the supplies on the international space elevator for Princess Rosa & Ionela Shilage.
I just finished playing AC7, it's the first time I play any AC game so I had no idea about the factions, history, politics, etc, and by mission 2 or 3 I already hated Ocea, I felt like I was fighting for the bad guys...
Here's the thing, and spoilers: The former president that Trigger accidentally shot down thanks to Erusea's (and Belka's) IFF spoofing tech is Osean, and he just wanted to actually do something positive. Whatever happened after his administration was done is up for debate.
If it weren't for the Grey men's tunnel I would still be living in "North Ocea". I finally got to see my extended family fr Belka. Only thing i miss is OFC but other than that I like it alot better here in Belka
I never understood why the developers shill for Osea so hard in the game as the "good guys" while simultaneously portraying them as absolutely cutthroat geopolitical bullies in all of their lore. I mean they literally just annex sovereign territory from their enemies and brutally exploit them economically during peace time. They're like a Victorian colonial empire.
Nah they basically are like the US Empire along with its colonial buddies invading foreign lands and changing their culture and installing military on their borders
These videos you make exploring the lore of Strangereal are always fascinating. One thing I've always wondered about is the connection between Fortress Intolerance and Megalith. All the Ace Combat maps after 04 always show the Megalith ruins on Twinkle Islands but omit Fortress Intolerance in North Point. Considering they both share extremely similar designs, it's very likely that they were built from an external source for both nations. However, ISAF claimed Megalith was something the Eruseans developed (propaganda maybe?). We know that Yuktobania essentially copied the Dragonet-class submarines from AC2, so if Erusea did develop Megalith themselves, how did they get the design of Fortress Intolerance from North Point?
Fortress Intolerance was probably wiped off the map since it was located in a country as important as North Point, whereas Megalith is situated on a remote island. But, you know, the real reason is that Fortress Intolerance wasn't needed on the AC5 map, which AC7 just copied. :P But yes, Erusea constructed Megalith as a weapon of mass destruction.
I'm pretty sure Fortress Intolerance was built by the very militaristic generals of the FCU and the other Usean states, who launched a coup. By the time of AC4, the guys responsible for Fortress Intolerance had all probably been locked up for years, or executed for treason.
@@presidentirinavladimirovna7054 The funny thing about that is it's never explicitly stated whether Applerouth and the other warmongers were Belkan sympathizers or not. It could be taken as them just being opportunistic.
@@Calvin_Coolage yeah, gotta remember that while Applerouth and whoever the Yuktobanian equivalent was all about supremacy against each other, Belka was about making them weakens themselves, and then go their merry way from then on.
This is why I love Belka. Such a proud country going up against indiscriminate odds. It really is the underdog in this story. I really hope we see a future Ace Combat where the Oseans are the Bad guys. Maybe Strangereal Skynet or some other machine revolution go off at the same time. Or how about an Emmerian led coalition against the tyrant. Ps. Osea is the Only country to have kicked thw Asses of both Major Powers Belka and Erusea and the Superpower Yuktobania , that means any fight against them would have to make the other smaller countries gang up on it. Kinda like the Mackinder Heartland Thesis but in Strangereal
@@LunaPPK But it is implied that Osea was helping them during both the first and second Usean Continental Wars. Heck the first one began because of Osea expanding its influence. And the help was akin to the US providing lend lease and stuff during WW2
I came into this video expecting it to be somewhat of an ironic joke but I was surprised to find that it was not only serious but very well sourced and very plausible at worst and accurate at best. Very well done video.
As an Emmarian all I can say is Belka was irresponsible with the scorched earth treaty Osea has never been clean either. But that's war isn't it, it's ugly on all sides and ace combat heavily emphasizes this. Remember, war is bad but planes are rad!
I have 2 of 4 words: #MakeBelkaGreatAgain! #BelkaDidNothingWrong Even though that Belkan(s) are looks evil, but its actually Osea, however, some Belkan(s) are evil too, but #NotAllBelkans are evil, and maybe whose dislike the video, they are Osean for anyways... XDDD
Ace Combat writers: Neither side is truly good, and war is an evil that should be avoided at all costs. Ace Combat fans: Yeah! Belka did nothing wrong! Let's have a game where we burn Osea!
Take how people in the real world behave where they see good or bad sides, when it is not as simple as it appears, something the scriptwriters understood seems to be, speaking of the nuclear issue, it is curious that several Belkan pilots opposed those orders, this is confirmed in AC5 and ACZ, if it really did not have the objective of endangering civilians and the territory itself, because there were rebel pilots who practically opposed the orders of the high command of the army and flew to stop the bombers equipped with nuclear weapons, it is It is obvious that the high command was desperate and the only thing that mattered to them was stopping the allied forces, it will cost what it will cost, I mean, from ACZ they do not present it so well, the most obvious moment is that it obtained many benefits in the negotiations, but Belka is not a woman either. Santa (more taking into account that some Belka men were indirectly involved in the formation of the Estovakian military government)
I’ve only recently gotten into the Ace Combat lore to help myself understand AC7. And holy shit I’ve been really mislead. Like I knew strangereal was supposed to be more morally grey and whatnot, but I’ve been fed so many OBC lies. I came for the memes/a little more lore understanding, but damn Osea really is the bad guy of the Belkan war and not so righteous in many others. Great video. Also I fucking died at Belkan Robins ice cream
If Belka had just invaded Ustio, Recta, and Gebet; they would have won both the war and world opinion. They could have fought a defensive war against Osea and Sapin and Yuktobania would have stayed out.
I've got to say, that was a very well put together argument with a lot of details and history. Though, I can't say Belka didn't do anything wrong at all. War in itself or the use of nukes are inherently wrong, but this at least casts a light that many of Belka's actions were at least justified. Saying that one entity's actions are not wrong because the other's were worse or more numerous is a fallacy. History is never black and white, but an endlessly complex and tangled mass.
This. Exactly this. Belka's point of view on things is one side of the story, and it just furthers the entire anti-war message of the Ace Combat franchise as a whole. The fact that all of this has to be explained, and all of this is still just one side, _and_ this all still involves so many civilian and military casualties, is exactly what these games are trying to do: inform us of the horrors of war. "History belongs to the victor," after all.
Aight so Grundr was a Belkan compan but became Osean. But like. They made some cool planes lets be honest. And aint that really the whole point off endgame ace combt games is fighting a grundr industries aircraft in an Osean Aircraft but against an Osean prototype. So like. Blue on blue. Its all a lie. War. War never changes. Lmao idk. Nice video :)
23:18 There's already a radioactive wall that was set up by the Belkans in 1995, and the Osean president can't build a physical wall in irradiated regions. And from that broadcast, how do the people of Sudentor live under nuclear rainfall?
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Ace Combat Fan Apparently if you defend WW2 Germany’s actions in any way (in this case talking about Dresden) you’re considered a nutzee... It’s sad really
*Nazi
Well said but I'm siding with 24 Emmeria SBN Union of Yuktobanian Republics & OBC Osean Federation
its probably because you put fake news in the title. the leftists don't like that
@@adiarka4543 Good, anyone who tries to defend Germany in WW2 is wrong. However, this is obviously a case of UA-cam's algorithm being too sensitive, which is nothing new.
We did absolutely nothing wrong
My favorite mountain dew flavor 😂
Burn -Osea- Belka to the ground 🙃
I second this!
No u
Yes
Belka: Nukes places which there were no people in.
OBC: Why did they nuke their cities?
When you also consider the nukes where likely B53 or possibly tsar bomba sized to cover that much area with only 7 nukes so it's even more surprising that only 12,000 died.
@@toptiergaming6900 Very. You have city destroying nukes and then you have county destroying thermo-nuke.
@@livingcorpse5664 that'd what tsar bomba and B53 where
@@toptiergaming6900 Yeah that's why I brought it up. Amazing more lives weren't lost even if they were used in the middle of nowhere.
@@livingcorpse5664 especially from the radioactive dust carried hundreds of miles away.
I’ve known the truth for years because I am Belkan. Born and raised.
Is it true that being a scheming, conniving native born conspiring Belkan gives you unique insight into the corrupt conspiracies of rival nations?
Maybe ACF is actually Belkan himself.
Another homeland mate. Lets see what two countries we ll make enter in combat now
Erusea Will Always with you against the opressor
Now is time to sell ours new V5s to Yuktobania and Sapin
AC8 better take place from the point of view of a Belkan, or I'll be mad.
I agree
Personally I want the next Ace Combat to be set on the Verusean continent. We never really explored it and the other countries there besides Yuktobania. I really want to play as a Yuke pilot.
Before it came out, I thought AC7 was from the perspective of a Erusean
In AC8, I really want to play as an Erusean fighting off the Oseans.
@@cr4zypeopl3 That won't happen as Osea and Erusea as of 2020 Strangereal are in a non-aggression treaty.
Came here expecting jokes, now im woke af
#Belkadidnothing Wrong
redpilled*
woke is the term for being liberalised/osean-ified
but... real life surpass fiction.
@darssin4260 Regardless of where you lie on the political compass we all agree that Belka did nothing wrong. The only people who deny belka's innocence are the government and media
@@Jesus_Officaleven Jesus agrees that Belka is innocent
I grew up knowing that Osea is the protector of peace in strangereal, but they were actually the opposite. Oh God why.. My mind is now clear.. Belka did nothing wrong indeed. We need an Ace Combat with a Belkan Protagonist right now and restore their country back to its glory. I'm a pro-Belka now. Thanks to you ACF.
Viper_213X i would love to see that maybe in the next ace combat title
@@ridholautse4431 i hope so.
Maybe the three DLC missions could be about that. ADF planes, THE PLAN OF THE TEN MILLIONS, TROLLEY PROBLEM... You know It could have relaction with the V2s or with other polemics actions from Osea
I'm also thinking part about an Osean politician who wants to reveal the truth too, showing his people that his country also contributed to the Belkan War.
I actually have a concept:
The protagonist is a pilot named *Rohann Schimdt*
A 26 year old Belkan pilot who survived the Belkan war.. But his family didn't..
All his family members (Dad, mom, elder brother and uncle) died in the bombing runs of hoffnung and Rohann was triying to stop the allied bombings from killing his family.. He failed and he had a severe depression until January 2 1996..
Rohann does not accept the defeat of Belka and the loss of his family so he allies with a friend named Franz Hopper and a Belkan General as his commanding officer.
He creates a Squadron named "Red Slayers" with his friend Franz. And he will also destroy with him important Osean objectives such as high profile personalities or experimental facilites and try to recapture the Belkan south ammunition factories claimed now by Osean troops.
Like in Ace combat Zero, he willbe able to fight Osean and Ustio fighter aces. His favourite plane is the SU47 Berkut.
The thing would be set In 1996.
And he would fight Cipher in the final battle in the Valais Mountain to revenge his family.
What do you guys think?
*IS NOT OFFICIAL, MAYBE I WILL ADD MORE ABOUT THIS CONCEPT*
Maybe being the Germany of the Strangreal universe and being on the border of the USA of said same universe had something to do with it.
Testament Not the right use of asinine, but good try.
FoxyPercival714 Nahh, they’re said to be an exceptionally cold Nordic country which has poor soil, poor resources, and poor economy but were able to become leaders of military technology due to the necessity of becoming artisans and crafters for importing foodstuffs into the areas which couldn’t grow crops. Just like the real Germany, but they fished as well. And also usually just raided food, but eh.
They're Germanic. Look at their squadron names and war ships. Offnir, Grabcr, Schnee, etc
Yes, that are German Names. Like "Hoffnung" means in English hope
@@AVerySexuallyDeviantOrange Germany had a massive amount of coal and iron which helped to drive the industrial revolution in Germany.
Cipher committed war crimes!
Osea: *hold my beer*
Well, we have seen that attitude towards Wardog and Trigger.
Him? He was a true ace
Cipher did indeed committed war crimes. Part of the reason why Pixy hated him. Ace Combat Zero is a super morally grey Ace Combat game, which is one of the reason why it’s so great. The only reason Cipher’s crimes were ignored was because well, Osea and they were the victor, which is “justice”.
@@samanders2676that heavly depends on the ace style system
@@nonymouswisp8176since Mercenary is canon, it's obvious where does Cipher fall.
Holy shit, that strangereal clickbait on the 4chan page had me rolling dude lolol
Belka: *makes nukes as a deterrent.*
Osea: "Nukes?! we better invade them."
Belka: -_-
"Fission mailed, we'll get 'em next time."
@@Attaxalotl That's genius
To be fair, the nuclear deterrent works best when you don't start a ground war first.
Russia next
@@Attaxalotl Lmfao.
AC8: Revenge of the Belkans
ADF-11F as starting plane
ADF-11F as starting plane, but every time you get shot down, your plane gets worse
If yours planes is shoted down You have a second oportunity with the doble of speed and maniobravility but without missiles and armor
AVE BELKA
Project Aces love to make Belka the baddies... for once, Belka should be the good guy.
AVE Belka
I mean this is just geopolitics. Osea recognizes it faces 3 potential existential threats.
1. Yuktobania: the only true rival to Osea in terms of resources.
2. Belka: due to proximity, and the fact it is the only power that Osea's Navy can't stop due to the land connection.
3. Erusea(unified Usea): A unified Usea would also rival Osea in terms of resources, and Erusea is well positioned to unify Usea
So Osea has to have a strategy to either ham-string or co-opt these powers, so lets examine Osea's strategy with these three powers.
1. Yuktobania: wage a cold war and then later co-opt them into maintaining a G2 World Order where Osea and Yuktobania both have a vested interest in maintaining the global order in order to prevent the rise of new challengers to their shared hegemony.
2. Belka: Take advantage of Osea's economic strength to drive Belka to financial ruin with an arms race and use this crisis to weaken Belka and take the border regions that give Osea access to resources and a good defensive buffer. Ultimate goal is knock Belka from Great Power Status.
3. Erusea(unified Usea): Become involved in internal Usean politics and make security agreements to keep Usea divided (Usean Rebellion), support the ISAF forces with material support in the Continental War(how do you think Mobius 1 went from F-4E to F-22A), and finally send Osean troops as part of the IUN-PKF to keep Erusea down and make sure they can't take over all of Usea.
Damn this is so interesting to read, well done bud
This is a great explanation.
Accurate analysis
Osea was neutral during the continental war (and about 2/3 were Harling's presidency). Are the ISAF gets support from the Oseans, Acepedia didn't say anything about it-and like SlyCooperFan1 said, ISAF isn't Osea's payroll.
Also, for (possible issue(you can skip this one out) ) the ISEV, it was to restore Erusea post-apocalyptic situation (even though they didn't believe this and think Osea wanted to exploit their resources-similar to what Osean did to Belka)
Oseans kept repairing the lasting Stonehenge turret expecting Arsenal Birds would get stolen or for them to have air superiority on a foreign continent? :)
Can we get an ace combat were we play as a Belkan pilot?
YES
@@lolmeme69_ I think it's time we play as the aggressor.
Since your character's nationality is never given I always pretend I am a Belkan. The Knight's blood flows through my veins, how else am I such a master Pilot?
That's why Cipher won the Belkan war for the Allies. The only one that can stop a Belkan, is another Belkan.
Hell yeah...
@@DokturProfesur I support this theory that Cipher is Belkan. Furthermore Pixy was revealed to be Belkan. That is why Cipher and Pixy were an unstoppable force. It makes their friendship and brotherhood even somewhat tragic when they had to fight each other in the end :( [This is my opinion though :)]
Amazing how we were led to believe that Osea is one of those peaceful superpowers that cannot do anything wrong in AC5, but then AC0 and AC7 blow that idea straight out of the water.
It's a real nice shift of perspective. What you think you're fighting for could be completely wrong. In war, no one wins.
Briar Mason I mean, AC5 showed you Osea’s true colors. Wardog squadron was blamed for the bombings on schools on Yuktobania, while also making the whole country turn against Sand Island squadron later on the game because some general almost murdered them.
@@randy0210 To be fair, that was all Belkan manipulation
@@randy0210 All by the work of Belkan reactionaries.
outside using cons as pilots what about 7 said osea wasn't peaceful? The whole lighthouse war started because a dumb eursa princess let herself get worked up by a belken spy to start a war with osea while completely ignoring hardlings intentions of the space elevators
@@randy0210 you really didn't pay attn to the plot if you thought it was Osea's themselves that turned on wardog. that was literally belkas hand
Thanks you ACF for this video! Now more people know that we have done nothing wrong!
p.s.: past name of that account are "Principality of Belka"
Belka is best
Does The Principality of Belka Recognizes The Republic of China (Taiwan) diplomatically and officially ?
Oh no now I know where belka screwed 😁😂😂😂 long live Osea😀
But Osea started the war.
Of course I canto approce the 8492 Squadron cationes at the Endnof Ace Combat 5.
But I cannot approve Osea's arrogance against the Balkan people
Principality of Bella, my question to you is (please answer it on your comments and thanks): Does The Principality of Belka Recognizes The Republic of China (Taiwan) diplomatically and officially ?
It's hilarious that the nation which employs penal battalions/squadrons to do its fighting is painted in such a positive light throughout the games despite its actions.
Every country IRL used penal units up until recently. The reason we've stopped isn't for ethical concerns, but because there hasn't been a conflict big enough to warrant their use.
@@cybersilver5816 The US didn't use penal units during the first or second world wars. Were those "not big enough"? No, the reason people stopped using them is because having ill-disciplined, antagonistic soldiers who actively hate the government they're serving isn't exactly a wonderful combination for ensuring the fighting effectiveness of the unit. You can see this when a lot of the penal unit soldiers of the Nazi regime actively deserted INTO RESISTANCE MOVEMENTS. Not just leaving their post, but actively working against the country that gave them weapons to begin with.
@@Gustav_Kuriga I've severely misunderstood my research. I'll respectfully take my L
Which was a very, very stupid thing to do on Osea's part. Imagine handing a multi-million dollar fighter jet with ammo and ordnance to a disgruntled fighter pilot who hates you and your country. AC7 implies unit 444 mutinied on Tyler island.
@@Gustav_Kuriga yeah like during d days where a lot of these battalion switching side and helping the allies force take control of strategic target
No belkan were harmed in the making of this video
And just one nuke was used.
@@JotapeRR ...on the OBC
12k people died tho
they're lied (yes it's real)
@@chimoyTV they are Oseans. They got what they deserve
I knew I wasn't a tin foil hat wearing psycho when I thought Osea was evil for legit bombing civilians with Tomahawks
It's not about the territory. It's about its people and its memes. Dr. Shroeder is the living proof, that Belka lives on! #Belka4Life
Schröder, Tabloid and Georg!
Memes, the DNA of the soul.
Sorry, I like making references
Exposed and Belkapilled
"Osea poked the bear too much"
Yet they trying to make it look like the bear were potential danger and make themselves rightfully to strike back the bear
the Osean cries in pain as he strikes you
ACF For Belkan President 2020!
Chancellor*
Great Leader*
Emperor
A peacefull leader which will clean belka image
*Lord Supreme High Chancellor
"My homeland, she's right. It feels so far away now..."
-Dr. Schroeder, Ace Combat 7
Germany:Who are you?
Belka:I'm you who is blatantly blamed a lot while i did nothing bad
This really makes me wish that in AC8 we'll play as a Belkan pilot, flying a non-NATO made plane (canonically). Would also be cool if we get to command a squad of 3 COFFIN UAVs (to compensate for Belka's loss of pilots). The cherry on top is if the plot is about reunifying South Belka into the mainland (and if Pixy shows up as a mentor figure, that'll be a perfect 10/10 from me).
What if in the AC7 story DLC, it's revealed that Trigger is Belkan?
Mobius08 Would be a bit out of the blue, but might be cool I guess
I want AC8 to at least have 1. Belkan Protagonist... and 2. Every strangereal country to participate (like an actual world war)
President Irina Vladimirovna Putina
This right here. It’s funny how many wars occur in Strangereal, yet there aren’t any records showing a full-scale world war (afaik).
That’d be awesome to see, especially how it will all end up and connect with Ace Combat 3. Maybe all the countries were exhausted of all recources and/or manpower and companies ended up taking over?
AC3 COFFIN Su37 is the only plane legit enough for a real Belkan ace combat protagonist.
Next Ace Combat Game you play as a Belkan pilot fighting for Belka/Gray Men for balancing
hey, playing as the "bad" guy sometimes can be fun
@@kiidan agree, sometimes its boring to always playing as a good guy
I want the next ace combat to take place on the Verusan continent and play as a Yuke pilot. It's the only Strangereal continent we never really fully explored. I want to know what type of country Sotoa is.
@@MrBangijal That's debateable if the good guys are always good and the bsd guys are always bad. I mean Osean bombers firebombed Hoffnung for crying out loud!
BELKA DID NOTHING WRONG!!! Osean warmongering dogs are to blame for the Belkan War! Yes I'm a proud Belkan why do you ask?
Wow, this has to be one of your best videos, ACF. :o
I gotta admit that, since I played AC5 years ago, then Zero and 04, I did not pay such an attention to details regarding "the Belkan side" of the conflicts (guess I was brainwashed by OBC as well.)
You've just cleaned up the dust from my memories regarding the good Belkan actions and you've also opened up my eyes to really understand that Osea is not the so-called righteous country it claims to be. Wow. *Mindblow.*
Manny Fur i hope next game we get to play the true good guys, Germa-Belka i mean
Now that. think about it... maybe Belka keeps indirectly building this futuristic weapons because other countries keep guilt-tripping Belkan scientists into it 🤔🤔
Very interesting🤔🤔🤔
It's almost like Dr. Doofenshmirtz, only kept free to build new tech, that will be soon stolen for theie own purposes
@@thelegendarybloxycola4727 ????
Man, if only Osea hadn't screwed Belka over the natural resource thingy, and actually helped them stabilize, they would have had a valuable ally. It's not like Belka was opposed to co-operation, since they agreed to the resource gathering project.
pretty much how today Russia stay the antagonist when they tried to reconcile after the collapse of the URSS just to get rejected and gang up on still against the war though All my heart to Ukraine
@@aoki6332 what a brain dead take.
That was literally the one chance for them to get on better terms, and they screwed it up, its better to have a allied frenemy than an enemy that will forever remember what you did to them til death
Thanks for the enlightenment. I have seen everything
#BurnOseaToTheGround
You know after watching this, I really hope that Bandai Namco decide to let us play as the Belkans in Ace Combat 8
I'm getting bored playing for the Osean side.
You play for the good guys. It's as simple as that
BURN OSEA TO THE GROUND!!! I mean.....yeah it would be fun to play on the Belkan side of things no other reason at all for wanting such a thing....
@@houseplant7574 that would be possible and plausible if only there was any Belka left to have us play as one of their pilots
@@houseplant7574 [JPEG doggo noises intensify]
would love to play a Yuktobanian character in AC8
That’s right they did nothing wrong! ...
Besides having poor budgeting skills throughout the 1980’s. And buying all of those super weapons like Excalibur, V2 from Project Pendragon, ADFX-01 & ADFX-02 Morgan, and XB-0.
And chemical laser weaponry.
Ey Solutus Eversol keep up the good work
Solutus Eversol another big mistake they did was not hiring a certain mercenary called Cipher
chemical lasers are never a mistake
NOW LISTEN I DON'T CARE ABOUT MY PROFILE NAME thank you good sir! :)
@@SolutusEversol YES BUT BESIDES ALL OF THAT
I don't get to understand everything in the video but the reasons that Ace Combat Fan said of Belka detonated 7 nuclear warhead to it's own soils already making me believe that Belka is innocent and try to protect it's citizens.
Belka: *builds advanced technology*
Osea: and I took that personally
or
Osea: is for me?
Such is the way in our world, especially if said nation is directly bordering the other guy.
"Instead of outright killing President Harling, they gave him an all-inclusive trip to Stier Castle, one that he could not refuse."
Ahahahahahaha, you can even hear ACF having trouble keeping the laughter from his voice.
This video was really good. It kind of reminded me of SlyCooperFan1's Everything Wrong With Ace Combat series in tone and style.
"You either die as a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
Now we need AC8 where Osea attacks Belka to finish them off but we play as a Belkan pilot
_So You all know where that is going_
I wonder what their callsign would be? Maybe an old Squadron from Zero or a totally new Squadron. Who knows!
@@airmanbunny9767 "Knight" sounds very Belkan
14:20 "The Trolley Problem"
AC7 DLC Foreshadowing too.
I thougth the same!!!
@@simplementepersonaAmigo, se escribe "Thought", un consejo para el futuro nada más, cuidate. :)
@@wallyhuncho2998 grax por la corrección
As kids we loves Osea. As adults we understand Belka.
Thats deep
Also,Pixy was helping Cipher to open his eyes,realizing that Belka was all innocent and Osea was using Ustio Airforce against them!
I feel that this is canon when you think about it, Pixy is the one who is more aware of the situation than Cipher.
That's not what Pixy believed at all. He didn't see it as Belka=Good, Osea=Bad, he saw the Belkans and Oseans squabbling and throwing away lives over territory, and wanted to get rid of nations to destroy the corruption.
FINALLY THE TRUTH! THANK YOU GLORIOUS ACF!
For once I agree, Belka I think is in the middle between they did nothing and everything wrong
Ace Combat The Belkan War was my first Ace Combat game. Haven't been able to play it for some time. It has far more happening in it than I thought. Thanks for the vids.
The poll before watching was 46% belka did nothing wrong and shot up to 74% did nothing wrong.. damn obc 😂
I was an Osean.
I see video.
I am a Belkan.
I'm Belkan Nationalist and i proud of it.
You should join the National Socialist Belkan Workers Party
@@gold-818 dont do spam of my Party!!!!
*Osea and Yuktobania suddenly have their aces nearby Belka's border*
gold 818 nonononononono
Osea will turn Belka to dust, and the dust to ashes, and the ashes to nothing
1:09 that photo will actually haunt me in my dreams
Damn this exposes just how deep the lore goes
As Max0r said
" I don't think we're looking for fucking nukes anymore dawg"
I came here as an Osean, expecting this to be a meme, I left as a Belkan, with new found knowledge of the Belkan War.
I first played AC5 2 months after it’s release on PS2. Following that I fell into ACZ. In both games I drew the ever growing opinion that Belka was the aggressor, the cancer. But as I’ve watched several videos across many channels, this one sets in stone that, not using the meme just to use it, Belka did nothing wrong.
I find it absolutely crazy how much the lore gets picked apart and instead it destroys your first impressions (Belka invaded Ustio unjustly) and you start to see logic behind the arguments like as this gentleman just said. OBN would indeed alter the report to cast a guilty shadow over Belka and it’s been proven in this video. I’m off to download Project Ulysses for HOI4 and take back what’s ours. #BelkaFirst
Did that hoi4 mod release yet?
Theres a mod for ace combat univerce in hoi4? Sighn me the fuck up
say it with me everyone:
B E L K A D I D N O T H I N G W R O N G
B E L K A D I D N O T H I N G W R O N G
B E L K A D I D N O T H I N G W R O N G
i love how AC fans are very capable of seeing bias and historical injustices on both sides, and with that knowledge defend a small nation but with immense power and resources. i feel like ive found a community that has truly made a new world where interesting politics can thrive without the burdens of the real world
im not sure how I feel about Belka (apart from loving the ADFX Morgan), but I think I can say confidently burn Osea to the ground!
"with stuff written in English and Germa- i mean Belkan" uhhhh, really? did Project Aces literally make Belka's native language German?
@@xymaryai8283
I mean, all of the boss names are German so yeah.
Except for Pixy, that doesn’t make sense. My headcanon is it’s a cover name and his real name is Lauri Falk.
A friend on mine who’s never heard of ace combat watched a video like this,
He automatically got confused and thought it was a video about Balkan countries with a weird conspiracy map.
Well your friend would be like *WELCOME TO ACE COMBAT WORLD BUDDY, WHERE HERE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT REAL LIFE COUNTRY INSTEAD WE HAVE OSEA, BELKA, YUKES AND ANYTHING ABOUT IT* 😂
WHO IS THIS 8492CHAN GUY?
I am half Belkan half Saudinian, both nations were destroyed by their neighbors, who hungry of power brought war and despair over our people. I speak for all ethnic Saudinians and all Akrans to stand up against the oppression and restore the homeland we've lost many years ago. AVE!
This sounds like a trolling video, but it doesn’t at the same time
Meanwhile, the words "this video was sponsored by Grunder Ind. And the Belkan Govt." in the video's description:
Let's add some paranoia and draw analogies to Operation Paperclip and what happened with Grunder Industries. Lol, good documentary.
I want a game where we restore Belka to glory and bloody Osea's nose.
I couldn't agree more 😎
That Mid-Age Map is on a Namco Game Called [Dragon Buster & Dragon Saber] :3 I'm a huge Namco Fan :3
Now i feel kinda bad for Belka, never went so deep in the lore of AC as you did but you are right sir...they did fought the war honorably.
After this. I can't believe how blind I am to the OSEA propaganda. Belka really did nothing wrong.
I really hate OSEA right now..
Sure, Osea bad. But Belka decides that pride came first before the sake of their own nation and citizenry instead...and that's way they lost.
while most of this is true, the 8492/229th had not only direct ties to the Belkan military structure, but to the Belkan government itself through the OADF aggressor program. Grabacr was formed almost entirely of former South Belkans who resented partnership with Osea, and the Belkan government chose to submit them to the program despite their very open disdain for Osea, with the knowledge that the grey men were already an existential threat to peaceful relations with their much larger neighbor, and not releasing such information at any point in the conflict to them.
The Grey Men were secret very few people in the Belkan Government were even aware of the existence of them. Also those squadrons were taken from Belka by the winners in 1996 after the reformation of the air force so they were never part of the new belkan military for any real length of time. If the two super powers were stupid enough to take pilots that were obvious in their anger towards them they have no one to blame but themselves. Those squadrons also were not just made up of Belkans they had natives of the two nations be cycled through them and part of the squadrons for long periods of time.
I expected a meme but now I’m actually a woke boi who realizes that #BelkaDidNothingWrong
I want to see an AC game with a belkan protagonist for a change tbh.
Also, didn't Belka get fucked over the Five Great Lakes treaty by Osea which spiraled into the belkan economic crisis?
Hell yes!
@@death_the_d0g That's explained in the video...
@@SlyAceZeta Ah sorry, was speedwatching...
Ok now i want an ac where we had a war with osea. Either as a belkan or yuktobanian or erusia.
Belkan, but with a plot twist of this Belkan being a Harling sympathizer and fighting against a post-Harling Osea, which took a deep dive in a corruption and, basically, abandoned everything Harling stood for (which isn't so far-fetched, with how they were planning to kill Trigger the second he's no longer needed, not to mention the penal squadrons). Might make for a good moment "WHY AM I, A BORN AND RAISED BELKAN, FIGHTING TO UPKEEP THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF VINCENT HARLING, AN OSEAN PRESIDENT, WHILE YOU, OSEANS, ARE DOING YOUR DAMNEDEST TO ERASE THE PEACE AND UNITY HE STOOD FOR?!".
Thank you for your absolutely needed journalism.
I finally realised why I was disappointed with the ending of AC7. The final boss and all that wasn't the problem... But Osea did still exist. I was happy when I got the game... There was a opportunity with the story to finaly revenge Hoffnung and every Civilian Killed by Osean armory and soldiers, to finally #BurnOseaToTheGround ... Strangereal will get what it deserves... Sooner or later
so a bunch of people who had nothing to do with that war have to be burned to the ground interesting 100% something a side who "did nothing wrong" would say
@@LunaPPK I don't mean the human livings. I mean their minds. Their Industry. Their Country...
For a country that small, Belka sure did shook the strangereal world multiple times and it’s still shaking. Not surprised that Pixy was a Belkan...the greatest wingman ever lived in Strangreal.
We were tricked into fighting Belka by the evil warmongering Oseans! Belkans are our true allies! Glory to Belka from Yuktobania!!!
#BURNOSEATOTHEGROUND
#YuktobaniaEruseaEstovakiaBelkaLeasatharebrothersinarms
Check the footage of Nikanor to the SBN on December 27th-31st 2010 circum-pacific war to which he admitted that it was Belka behind the war and also Lighthouse War II Usean Continental war footage because your country drop the supplies on the international space elevator for Princess Rosa & Ionela Shilage.
I can see in a future Ace Combat South Belka becoming a major issue for Osea I can also see
I just finished playing AC7, it's the first time I play any AC game so I had no idea about the factions, history, politics, etc, and by mission 2 or 3 I already hated Ocea, I felt like I was fighting for the bad guys...
Here's the thing, and spoilers:
The former president that Trigger accidentally shot down thanks to Erusea's (and Belka's) IFF spoofing tech is Osean, and he just wanted to actually do something positive. Whatever happened after his administration was done is up for debate.
estovakia did nothing wrong as well. They were attacking a government that funded rebels and elongated a civil war.
*sees ACF's video on notification*
Ah sh*t, here we go again...
If it weren't for the Grey men's tunnel I would still be living in "North Ocea". I finally got to see my extended family fr Belka. Only thing i miss is OFC but other than that I like it alot better here in Belka
I never understood why the developers shill for Osea so hard in the game as the "good guys" while simultaneously portraying them as absolutely cutthroat geopolitical bullies in all of their lore. I mean they literally just annex sovereign territory from their enemies and brutally exploit them economically during peace time. They're like a Victorian colonial empire.
Nah they basically are like the US Empire along with its colonial buddies invading foreign lands and changing their culture and installing military on their borders
These videos you make exploring the lore of Strangereal are always fascinating. One thing I've always wondered about is the connection between Fortress Intolerance and Megalith. All the Ace Combat maps after 04 always show the Megalith ruins on Twinkle Islands but omit Fortress Intolerance in North Point. Considering they both share extremely similar designs, it's very likely that they were built from an external source for both nations. However, ISAF claimed Megalith was something the Eruseans developed (propaganda maybe?).
We know that Yuktobania essentially copied the Dragonet-class submarines from AC2, so if Erusea did develop Megalith themselves, how did they get the design of Fortress Intolerance from North Point?
Fortress Intolerance was probably wiped off the map since it was located in a country as important as North Point, whereas Megalith is situated on a remote island. But, you know, the real reason is that Fortress Intolerance wasn't needed on the AC5 map, which AC7 just copied. :P But yes, Erusea constructed Megalith as a weapon of mass destruction.
I'm pretty sure Fortress Intolerance was built by the very militaristic generals of the FCU and the other Usean states, who launched a coup. By the time of AC4, the guys responsible for Fortress Intolerance had all probably been locked up for years, or executed for treason.
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Christopher Michael Vice President Applerouth was assisting Belka during AC5, so I think he actually likes this whole “Belka did nothing wrong” stuff
@@presidentirinavladimirovna7054 The funny thing about that is it's never explicitly stated whether Applerouth and the other warmongers were Belkan sympathizers or not. It could be taken as them just being opportunistic.
@@Calvin_Coolage yeah, gotta remember that while Applerouth and whoever the Yuktobanian equivalent was all about supremacy against each other, Belka was about making them weakens themselves, and then go their merry way from then on.
This is why I love Belka. Such a proud country going up against indiscriminate odds. It really is the underdog in this story. I really hope we see a future Ace Combat where the Oseans are the Bad guys. Maybe Strangereal Skynet or some other machine revolution go off at the same time. Or how about an Emmerian led coalition against the tyrant.
Ps. Osea is the Only country to have kicked thw Asses of both Major Powers Belka and Erusea and the Superpower Yuktobania , that means any fight against them would have to make the other smaller countries gang up on it. Kinda like the Mackinder Heartland Thesis but in Strangereal
Erusea only lost to oesa once and that was in 7 the first was was the smaller nations of USEA fighting against them
@@LunaPPK But it is implied that Osea was helping them during both the first and second Usean Continental Wars. Heck the first one began because of Osea expanding its influence.
And the help was akin to the US providing lend lease and stuff during WW2
I came into this video expecting it to be somewhat of an ironic joke but I was surprised to find that it was not only serious but very well sourced and very plausible at worst and accurate at best.
Very well done video.
So did the "falcons of dawn" mentioned in the assault records of ace combat zero become the greymen?
As an Emmarian all I can say is Belka was irresponsible with the scorched earth treaty Osea has never been clean either. But that's war isn't it, it's ugly on all sides and ace combat heavily emphasizes this.
Remember, war is bad but planes are rad!
I have 2 of 4 words:
#MakeBelkaGreatAgain!
#BelkaDidNothingWrong
Even though that Belkan(s) are looks evil, but its actually Osea, however, some Belkan(s) are evil too, but #NotAllBelkans are evil, and maybe whose dislike the video, they are Osean for anyways... XDDD
Ace Combat writers: Neither side is truly good, and war is an evil that should be avoided at all costs.
Ace Combat fans: Yeah! Belka did nothing wrong! Let's have a game where we burn Osea!
Take how people in the real world behave where they see good or bad sides, when it is not as simple as it appears, something the scriptwriters understood seems to be, speaking of the nuclear issue, it is curious that several Belkan pilots opposed those orders, this is confirmed in AC5 and ACZ, if it really did not have the objective of endangering civilians and the territory itself, because there were rebel pilots who practically opposed the orders of the high command of the army and flew to stop the bombers equipped with nuclear weapons, it is It is obvious that the high command was desperate and the only thing that mattered to them was stopping the allied forces, it will cost what it will cost, I mean, from ACZ they do not present it so well, the most obvious moment is that it obtained many benefits in the negotiations, but Belka is not a woman either. Santa (more taking into account that some Belka men were indirectly involved in the formation of the Estovakian military government)
Just like real life, gray morality turns into black-and-white morality depending on the person.
@@Post_Stall_Maneuver a huge difference being we allow and accept victors to carry out their colonialism irl for our own selfish purposes
We need a Belkan Protagonist
Who canonically flies the ADF-01 Falken, aka the best plane of all time and anyone who disagrees is wrong forever.
Even the holiest angel, like Osea, have the longest tail
In other words, devilry
When you’re rich and powerful, everybody becomes pawns on your chessboard
I’ve only recently gotten into the Ace Combat lore to help myself understand AC7. And holy shit I’ve been really mislead. Like I knew strangereal was supposed to be more morally grey and whatnot, but I’ve been fed so many OBC lies. I came for the memes/a little more lore understanding, but damn Osea really is the bad guy of the Belkan war and not so righteous in many others.
Great video.
Also I fucking died at Belkan Robins ice cream
If Belka had just invaded Ustio, Recta, and Gebet; they would have won both the war and world opinion. They could have fought a defensive war against Osea and Sapin and Yuktobania would have stayed out.
The land that was nuked was probably already a rural or desolate place
I've got to say, that was a very well put together argument with a lot of details and history. Though, I can't say Belka didn't do anything wrong at all. War in itself or the use of nukes are inherently wrong, but this at least casts a light that many of Belka's actions were at least justified. Saying that one entity's actions are not wrong because the other's were worse or more numerous is a fallacy. History is never black and white, but an endlessly complex and tangled mass.
This. Exactly this. Belka's point of view on things is one side of the story, and it just furthers the entire anti-war message of the Ace Combat franchise as a whole. The fact that all of this has to be explained, and all of this is still just one side, _and_ this all still involves so many civilian and military casualties, is exactly what these games are trying to do: inform us of the horrors of war. "History belongs to the victor," after all.
Yeah, though lots of people support Belka here, it’s important not to lean too much in one direction.
I feel like there is some parallels in the AC universe and ours...
#belkadidnothingwrong
Aight so Grundr was a Belkan compan but became Osean. But like. They made some cool planes lets be honest. And aint that really the whole point off endgame ace combt games is fighting a grundr industries aircraft in an Osean Aircraft but against an Osean prototype. So like. Blue on blue. Its all a lie. War. War never changes. Lmao idk. Nice video :)
4:33 focusing the words’ meanings the OBC straight up said Osea took advantage of Bella’s situation to make itself stronger
BelkanLivesMatter
23:18 There's already a radioactive wall that was set up by the Belkans in 1995, and the Osean president can't build a physical wall in irradiated regions. And from that broadcast, how do the people of Sudentor live under nuclear rainfall?
* Tsoukalos expression *
*Belkans*
>Participate in conflict
>Look inside
>Belka