I was on that particular flight that day with my son (who is a 737/800 pilot as well)and the whole situation could have not have been handled better…Hats off to the crew for a successful approach and landing…regarding all the other ignorant comments posted here, any type of engine anomaly is a major distraction and also returning to the airport…that’s why the communications are very brief and limited with ATC….they only need to know limited information to get the crew back without themselves becoming a distraction. Been there and had that a few years back at another airport… also ACARS the company and that became a distraction to the point I simply stopped because it was too much at that point between ATC and company. Our number 1 job is getting that airplane back on the ground as safe as possible…period. Unless you have been there and have amassed 25000 plus hours and have dealt with an engine failure, I would suggest refraining from ignorant comments.
Hats off to the flight crew and ATC on handling an engine that was producing power but in the end shutdown. VERY high workload environment and things to consider before returning to land at KMSP. If you haven’t ran an emergency/non-normal checklist in a transport category aircraft and all that it entails, you can now leave the conversation.
Most of these comments are basically “tell me you know nothing about commercial aviation without telling me you know nothing about commercial aviation.”
This flight crew followed the golden rule of aviation. Fly the airplane first. The flight crew communicated with ATC in an appropriate manner by giving ATC accurate information needed in a concise manner. This alleviated communications with ATC from becoming a distraction to the main focus of flying the airplane first and taking care of the emergency at hand resulting in successful outcome. The flight crew should be commended for their professionalism resulting in a successful landing and saved many lives that day.
I was surprised when checking FlightAware to see the N846SY flew to Cancun 24 hours later (10/17). That's a fast turnaround back to service after an engine failure emergency.
About 20 years ago we were passengers on a NWA A319 out of MSP and had an engine out maybe 15 minutes into climbout. Big bang and the whole plan vibrated for a long time until they could get the engine shut down. I have never seen so many rosary beads come out. They worked their checklists for maybe 15-20 minutes and finally came on the intercom and told us what was going on. Then we turned around and landed on the same 12R. Anyway, glad we had two engines or it would have been a different kind of day!
Do you have any idea what you are talking about!? They were very busy at the time, there is absolutely no benefit to giving any more detail than they did. I happen to know this crew and every detail of what they were dealing with. Giving more detail would only make this video more interesting, but their job was getting the aircraft safely back in the ground.
The worst thing about this is the peanut gallery comments about what they think they would have done. You should change the name of your crap to “guy that doesn’t talks about guy that does”
They act calm because they have done single engine landing in the past 6 months (in the sim) most likely. But I can't help but wonder why I did not hear about this emergency until now. It makes me suspicious the aviation community is covering for Boeing. Not in a conspiracy-theory sort of way, but in a realization that the once great company is close to bankruptcy on the commercial aviation side. People don't like riding in planes that have this many problems, and the last thing Boeing needs is another near-disaster. And yes, an engine out is very serious.... I'm a GA pilot, so I'm not especially sensitive to risk. But Boeing has a quality problem, and they don't seem able to fix it. And it's not like they are a low-cost provider. The money is there to provide quality, safe airplanes. I can only think the cat has gotten too fat. And that includes the union contracts all the way up to the CEO.
That airplane is likely 15 years old. Boeing had literally NOTHING to do with the failure, likely not even the same engine that was in the plane when it was delivered. Secondly, Boeing does not make the engine CFM does and it likely wasn’t their fault either, things break, sometimes at the most inconvenient time.
@@ronpayne4505 Maybe I missed it and it was all over national news? But if it was not, how would you explain it? A commercial flight with engine failure on takeoff is not newsworthy? Maybe you are right, but I'm more skeptical. As a passenger, I don't care if the engines are outsourced to CFM. The plane is a Boeing. Not a CFM. As a passenger I expect Boeing to make sure every component on that plane works perfectly. Yes, I said that, and meant it: perfectly. Commercial aviation has a high standard. Has anyone noticed how the Euro Airbus' planes are not having the same number of crashes, incidents and accidents? Whoever the new CEO is should not tolerate apologist sentiment about outsourced parts being the problem. I'm sure the software was partially developed in India. And the engines might be CFM. And the beer they serve might be made in Milwaukee. But when you are on a 747, it all Boeing. The beer comment was a joke-FYI.
@@mangos2888 The pilots and ATC did an incredible, professional job, and for that we are all thankful. But ya, I agree the lack of coverage is shocking. It's a declared emergency. And it seems very curious that it's another Boeing airplane.
Amazing work by the pilots and TRACON. The best in the business
I was on that particular flight that day with my son (who is a 737/800 pilot as well)and the whole situation could have not have been handled better…Hats off to the crew for a successful approach and landing…regarding all the other ignorant comments posted here, any type of engine anomaly is a major distraction and also returning to the airport…that’s why the communications are very brief and limited with ATC….they only need to know limited information to get the crew back without themselves becoming a distraction. Been there and had that a few years back at another airport… also ACARS the company and that became a distraction to the point I simply stopped because it was too much at that point between ATC and company. Our number 1 job is getting that airplane back on the ground as safe as possible…period. Unless you have been there and have amassed 25000 plus hours and have dealt with an engine failure, I would suggest refraining from ignorant comments.
The airplane took off and immediately realized it didn't actually want to go to Vegas.
I work at that airport. This happened an hour and a half before my shift and I didn't even know about it until now.
I work for this airline and didn’t even know about it until 3 days ago from a coworker…
Hats off to the flight crew and ATC on handling an engine that was producing power but in the end shutdown. VERY high workload environment and things to consider before returning to land at KMSP. If you haven’t ran an emergency/non-normal checklist in a transport category aircraft and all that it entails, you can now leave the conversation.
@@darinkluck8587 you must be a pleasure to deal with during holiday dinners
Most of these comments are basically “tell me you know nothing about commercial aviation without telling me you know nothing about commercial aviation.”
0:22 "Small issue" so would the loss of both engines be a "bit of an inconvenience" 🤣
@SpaceGeek321 That turns into a reaaally long checklist, with not a lot of time to work with 😂
This flight crew followed the golden rule of aviation. Fly the airplane first. The flight crew communicated with ATC in an appropriate manner by giving ATC accurate information needed in a concise manner. This alleviated communications with ATC from becoming a distraction to the main focus of flying the airplane first and taking care of the emergency at hand resulting in successful outcome. The flight crew should be commended for their professionalism resulting in a successful landing and saved many lives that day.
👍👍👍
I was surprised when checking FlightAware to see the N846SY flew to Cancun 24 hours later (10/17). That's a fast turnaround back to service after an engine failure emergency.
About 20 years ago we were passengers on a NWA A319 out of MSP and had an engine out maybe 15 minutes into climbout. Big bang and the whole plan vibrated for a long time until they could get the engine shut down. I have never seen so many rosary beads come out. They worked their checklists for maybe 15-20 minutes and finally came on the intercom and told us what was going on. Then we turned around and landed on the same 12R. Anyway, glad we had two engines or it would have been a different kind of day!
Do you have any idea what you are talking about!? They were very busy at the time, there is absolutely no benefit to giving any more detail than they did. I happen to know this crew and every detail of what they were dealing with. Giving more detail would only make this video more interesting, but their job was getting the aircraft safely back in the ground.
The ATC and crew are not going to engage in any extraneous banter to take their attention off flying the plane.
That plane flies into Lunken Airport in Cincinnati a few times a month
Routine excellence.
Strong work crew. I hear the pax didn't even know they had an engine failure.... S M O O T H
The worst thing about this is the peanut gallery comments about what they think they would have done. You should change the name of your crap to “guy that doesn’t talks about guy that does”
Did they forget to refuel? Dang! Scary!
Huh!? Where did you come up with conclusion. 🤪
The flight to LAS takes less than 4 hours. The captain said 4.5 hours of fuel.
@@RobWood-ik4pzDoes it make sense to you to carry only the exact amount of fuel necessary to get to your destination?
@@GaryL-cp2sf Most of the time you can get to Vegas in a little over 3 hours from MSP. He had 41/2 hours of fuel, perfectly legal
They act calm because they have done single engine landing in the past 6 months (in the sim) most likely. But I can't help but wonder why I did not hear about this emergency until now. It makes me suspicious the aviation community is covering for Boeing. Not in a conspiracy-theory sort of way, but in a realization that the once great company is close to bankruptcy on the commercial aviation side. People don't like riding in planes that have this many problems, and the last thing Boeing needs is another near-disaster. And yes, an engine out is very serious.... I'm a GA pilot, so I'm not especially sensitive to risk. But Boeing has a quality problem, and they don't seem able to fix it. And it's not like they are a low-cost provider. The money is there to provide quality, safe airplanes. I can only think the cat has gotten too fat. And that includes the union contracts all the way up to the CEO.
That airplane is likely 15 years old. Boeing had literally NOTHING to do with the failure, likely not even the same engine that was in the plane when it was delivered. Secondly, Boeing does not make the engine CFM does and it likely wasn’t their fault either, things break, sometimes at the most inconvenient time.
@@ronpayne4505 Maybe I missed it and it was all over national news? But if it was not, how would you explain it? A commercial flight with engine failure on takeoff is not newsworthy? Maybe you are right, but I'm more skeptical. As a passenger, I don't care if the engines are outsourced to CFM. The plane is a Boeing. Not a CFM. As a passenger I expect Boeing to make sure every component on that plane works perfectly. Yes, I said that, and meant it: perfectly. Commercial aviation has a high standard. Has anyone noticed how the Euro Airbus' planes are not having the same number of crashes, incidents and accidents? Whoever the new CEO is should not tolerate apologist sentiment about outsourced parts being the problem. I'm sure the software was partially developed in India. And the engines might be CFM. And the beer they serve might be made in Milwaukee. But when you are on a 747, it all Boeing. The beer comment was a joke-FYI.
@@kellywendlandt3940I agree it's shocking this wasn't reported on and likely intentional
@@mangos2888 The pilots and ATC did an incredible, professional job, and for that we are all thankful. But ya, I agree the lack of coverage is shocking. It's a declared emergency. And it seems very curious that it's another Boeing airplane.
ATC asking for the number of people and pounds of jet fuel is chilling 2:00
? This is standard for emergency calls.
A very standard question that is always asked. Helps fire chief quite a bit, ensures he is ready for the worst.
Sun Country pilots, your comms suck! In nearly every radio call your comms were cryptic and provided no detail.
Tremendously ignorant post!
buddy, they're not going to say mayday.
You sound like you can barely hold a drivers license…..what qualifications do you have other than making ignorant comments like that..?
Sounds like you couldn’t even hold a drivers license…..what qualifications do you have…? You just showed your ignorance about handing an emergency…
@@jeffwenberg4782 Ok Jeff, tell me where they were clear and concise about what they needed. I'll wait.