The Worst MLB Team Ever
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
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The Devil Rays were the worst team in MLB history. Multiple criminals, draft busts, and crazy stories define their decade of existence.
To finally turn the team around, they needed to expel demons from the franchise. And it worked. Here's how.
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Music:
• The Exorcism of the Ra...
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:33 Birth of a Franchise
6:00 Inaugural Season
8:52 1999
13:21 2000
16:38 2001
20:28 2002
24:27 2003
26:00 Channel Memberships
26:57 2004
28:48 2005
33:00 2006
36:21 2007
42:20 The Exorcism - Спорт
Man ik it’s hard to turn it down, but major respect for not following along with the ad. Better help seems sketchy at best
I'm lucky that I don't NEED that money, because in other circumstances, I def would've taken it. They offer a lot, and that's why so many UA-camrs have taken their ad reads this past year, even after the controversy.
It really was a situation where the more I looked into them, the worse I felt about supporting them.
@@AndThatsBaseball They offer a lot because they need to offer a lot to silence people's conscious.
@@AndThatsBaseballI’ve heard some people in comment sections say that the company is hard to cancel if you sign up for it.
I mean there a lot of "sketchy" companies out there that advertise..ultimately it comes down to the each individual person to do their own research and decide if doing something is in their own interest
@@AndThatsBaseball I'll be honest, I didn't know they were a sketchy company. Thanks for your integrity
I went to a Devil Rays game in 2007 against the Padres. We bought nosebleed seats for like 10 dollars. The staff told us we could sit behind the dugout. There were maybe 100 people there. The Devil Rays lost 9-0. It was sad. But a fond memory.
Pretty cool that the staff let you sit where you want though! 9-0 is brutal though, man those were the days 😭😭
@@joshnunez5265yeah, usually in MLB games if there's a seat below you that is free and unreserved, you can take it
Trading away a 5 WAR player for a manager should be brought up more often in the many discussions about the worst trades of all time
I think managers were slightly more valuable at the time, but trading your very good starting CF for a manager instead of for actual prospects is hilarious. They barely got anything for the few good players they had in the first 5 years, then Friedman built a pennant winner by trading Toby Hall and Aubrey Huff.
Nash, Dukes, Franco....the Rays need to have some training on how to stay away from underage girls for their stars 😭😭😭
Criminal organization
As a Mariners fan i will always appreciate Nintendo’s owner for buying the team. Dude never even saw a Mariners game live. Hated flying but wanted to thank the city for being so supportive.
One thing I will say for the Devil Rays:
The hats and helmets in the late 90’s and early 2000’s were pretty cool.
Josh Hamilton went #1 overall by Tampa Bay
Kyle Snyder went #7 overall by Royals
Tampa Bay pitching coach=Kyle Snyder
the thing that makes it the hardest to be a ray fan is the fact that you can’t get attached to players because they more than likely will be traded or won’t renew their contracts in less than 5 years.the one long term contract we give out happened to like children too
Marlins too. 1997 was the best moment of my life probably before turning 10yo. But they tore it down within months. I wasnt even a fan anymore in 2003, but did cheer for them vs yankees in ws. Rays need new stadium location and $ will improve via attendance
I still have a hard time watching video of Tony Saunders. Breaking his pitching arm had to be complete hell but happening again is a just kill me moment.
I have used that clip probably near half a dozen times now in my videos. It's gruesome, but it's so fascinating to me.
See the mildly grainy mid 00's Devil Ray's footage brings me back to my childhood in the Bay area.
I tried finding as much high-quality footage as possible, but the grainy stuff will always be part of that era's aesthetic
@@AndThatsBaseballit’s nostalgic
I was 8 years old watching Orioles games with my parents in MD, so I saw lots of Devil Rays games too. Nostalgic 😊
Same
As a Red Sox fan, I always loved the Rays uniform designs. The old rays uniform colors and they’re original name the Tampa bay devil rays will always be badass and my favorite. Tbh I Hope they win a World Series one day.
Having a chronically low payroll definitely makes things hard on any franchise. But constantly wasting picks and development time on guys with serious off-field issues that destroy their careers definitely doesn't help. At least they got over that problem. Oh wait...
The low payroll is part of the problem. It’s tough to be picky about talent when you’re playing with the small stack. Turning a blind eye to character concerns, injury concerns, etc. is how they field good teams, but also why they have these cases more than most.
I don't know how, but this was the first time it clicked for me that the Marlins won a World Series before the Devil Rays debuted
When I researched the original video, it shocked me that the DBacks won 100 in their second season. These expansion teams all had pathways to instant success.
After seeing the whole video, I definitely would say that this one turned out a lot better than the older video.
Way more engaging.
I've learned a lot since then
I saw this video in my subscriptions but wanted to wait to sit back and enjoy it. Fantastic video, I've always been a sucker for the Rays.
The Rays have been my AL team since their inception when I was 10. I liked the bright colors of their og unis lol
The OG unis are so nice. I bought the Wade Boggs Mitchell & Ness BP jersey cuz I was looking at them so much while editing this.
They are basically the little bit more Successful version of Oakland A's Money ball. But they can never win the ring.
If they keep making the playoffs at the rate they've done so in the last 15 years, they're bound to win some eventually
Ask the Mariners
I have a feeling they will at some point. Maybe not in my lifetime but they will.
I refuse to believe that the Rays are worse than the Seattle Mariners
Rays never had no Griffey or Ichiro
@@Danielvogelbachstan Mariners never won a pennant, took 15 years to finish above .500, only went to the playoffs 5 times, choked a record season, and had a 20+ year playoff drought
Idk what else to say, could you talk about how Milwaukee went from a punching bag and missing the playoffs for 26 straight years to being a model organization that has found ways to win. As a Brewers fan I'd appreciate it. Thanks, loved the vid!
I’ve LOVED some of the brewers teams in my lifetime, so I’d be open to this type of video.
Vince Naimoli...I remember the furniture store that leased space in the Trop, complete with price tags hanging from the furniture. George III had some petty feuds, but his with Naimoli was probably justified.
I didn’t mention that in the video, but reading about how he made the “luxury box” basically just a furniture store made me laugh
@@AndThatsBaseball I wonder how much furniture they sold. Who goes to the ballpark and thinks "You know what I really need today? A dresser!"
Josh Hamilton ABSOLUTELY had to go to somewhere else to make an impact. Being young with money and bad influences around him in Florida there's no way cocaine wasnt going to find its way to him. Its already pretty available in the rest of the country but especially there.
Let's not forget one the teams top scouts quit when they told him they 'Had no use for a player' like Albert Pujols in '99/00. The scout quit.
Having an outfield of Crawford, Baldelli, and Hamilton also batting 1-2-3 would've been legendary
Could’ve easily been a 15 WAR per year outfield
my old man always said: there's 2 types of people, those who get baseball and those who don't.
imagine drake wants to learn about the history of the rays and this video gives him flashbacks
🎶he a fan he a fan he a fan🎶
I asked you 2 years ago and I am asking again. Would you please do the second decade? BTW. This is better than the first version and I thought that the first one was strong.
I don’t think there’s as interesting of a story arc over the second decade. The team gets pretty boring and robotic. Not as many wacky stories to tell.
You do have a point because it becomes more of a numbers story. In the second decade if the Rays trade you one of their pitchers, there is something wrong with that pitcher. The Rays also had incredible luck with other teams cast aways like Fernando Rodney. There is also game 162. One of the most insane days in baseball history.
This an awesome documentary, shout out to u for making it! I’ve been a rays fan since day 1 and always find out so hard to believe how many times things have gone wrong from reading away Bobby Abreu, to Josh Hamilton never panning, to failed Vinny Castilla, Jose canseco, Greg Vaughn season, to somehow ending up in multiple World Series… truly been a crazy journey
Much appreciated!
Much respect for turning down better help. Its not easy to turn down that money and I think its appropriate to plug yourself instead of a predatory company
Aside from the many opinions i have regarding Rocco Baldelli as a 28 year old MN born and raised diehard twins fan, ignoring all that history and everything, This is a excellent piece of baseball content, the music and the tone and the vibe and everything about it seeps with passion and you should be proud of the video you created regardless of any of the context. You are an artist man! Well Done!!!!!!!
Glad you enjoyed and I truly appreciate the kind words! I’m glad the effort isn’t going unnoticed.
Makes no sense to me to allow them to take guys from other teams just to trade them. Should had some rule where you had to hold them for at least a year or something
With mlb expansion expected within the next decade, I wonder how the format of the draft will change.
Man, this is something. It's the Bad News Bears.
2000 opening day payroll, orioles 4th in the league.
I hate it when Baltimore fans say Angelos didnt do anything for the team. He didnt have a lot of success but that doesnt matter when measuring their personal dedication, only one team wins every year out of 32 giving everything to do it. He spent money on stars and then once the payrolls became astronomical he built the best farm system in baseball. He also broke the owners ability to present a united front in 1994 because he refused to side with them and bring in strike breakers, being both a labor leader and protecting Ripken's record. That actually takes a lot of integrity, as hard as that is to say about a lawyer.
I think Baltimore fans generally like Peter Angelos, but hate his children
Seeing Hamilton in the old "sleeveless" Renegades jersey is just a hit of nostalgia as a Hudson Valley local
Love finding rare footage like that
The Devil Rays may have been terrible, but they sure seemed to have the number of one of the greatest pitchers out there. Randy Johnson has managed an ERA below 4.50 against 29 of the 30 Major League teams, the one exception being the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. His 5.43 ERA against the Devil Rays is more than a run higher than the team against whom he had the next highest ERA, and his 3-5 record against Tampa Bay is worse than against any other team. And it's not like the he faced them when they had their exorcism, his last start again the Devil Rays came in 2006 when they went 61-101. It's one of the most enduring mysteries in my years of studying the Big Unit's career.
Anyways, thanks for the fun video.
Huge respect cancelling sponsorship with betterhelp
I didn't know they traded for Ben Zobrist who is a Cubs hero. I love the guy.
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Man. I remember them asking me in First Grade on what the teams name should be. It was the whole class. We had two lines. Devil Rays or Sting Rays. Most of us picked Devil. That was 30ish years ago.
Been a Rays fan my whole life. Those first 10 years weren't fun lol
Wow, very well put together video!
Glad you liked it!
I remember your devil rays history videos. This rays content honestly is the best glad you did a newer version of it with more data
As a life long devil rays fan born and raised in Tampa you did a great job on the video bro! Loved seeing all that old footage!
Appreciate it!!
Love your videos mate
I appreciate the tlou2 and gtaIV music featured throughout the video
Legend. Love your videos. Feels like home
More Devil than Ray back in the day
I don't have the money to join for 4$ but wanted to show support by commenting, really enjoy ur vids and the membership is a good way to avoid certain sponsers. Great idea
Damn no mention of the great 1998 season Closer Hernandez had 43 saves for a god awful 69 win team.
He was one of the team’s only good relievers in the early years. Probably should’ve written a couple lines about him, seeing as he was an all star
Being a Rays fan, this video couldn’t have made me happier to get as much history in this vid. Much love 💙
Glad you enjoyed!
Maybe they had some of the worst rosters in their early existence. But I can easily say they are not the worst mlb franchise ever. I don't really know who it would be, one that refuses to contended or punish contenders. I'm a Blue jays fan I hate the rays, But I can easily say they are not doing a bad job. They are a throne in lots of teams sides. It's fun underdog team unless you have to play them all the time. then they are todd flanders mini putting, " I'll do this but it won't go in, oh it did". Yes they havent won a world series. But GM's are not clairvoyant. All they can do is build a yearly contender. The Marlins everyone says are the worst organization, they have two world series. So make up your mind.
12:25 Great catch by Gerald Williams, who threw the ball to second to complete a double play. The batter? Some guy named David Ortiz.
Welp, time to get the beer. This is going to be painful for me
Thank you so much for this. It brings me joy.
I’m confused, why did other sports UA-camrs get negative feedback for doing Better Help ads?
In short, the company is one big giant scam
DO let this distract you by the fact that Dallas Keuchel in back
He was dealing through 3 innings
Massive respect for turning down BetterHelp. Your integrity is worth more than anything they could pay you. 👏👏👏👏
Idk, they offered a lot
@@AndThatsBaseball I've heard $100 per referral.
Screw BG they scammed my Mom and I. Lame
dan wheeler was my top tier coach down in clearwater fl hes a really nice guy who cared about his players
For a 34th round pick to make the league as young as he did, he must be an incredibly hard worker, as well
Dude! That video was amazing! That was such a good telling of the Rays story. Life long Rays fans and first day Rays fans should watch this
I appreciate that, thanks for watching!
Also, Wade Townsend *puke*
The Orioles drafted him in 2004, but he didn't sign with them.
The goat is back.
GOAT commenter is back
21:58 Record not withstanding devil rays is a bad ass name and the purple and green unis are some the best mlb unis ever
I can’t believe the OG unis only lasted 3 years
You always pick the best background instrumentals for your videos
I try, so I’m glad you like them
Its actually insane how much of a curse the devil rays name was 10 losing seasons in 10 years and these weren't normal losing season their best win total was 70 wins yikes
Even Crazier i as the rays they have had 12 winning seasons out of 16 and only one season where they didn't win 77+ games even there bad seasons are solid.
As a yankee fan i think i liked them better as the devil rays
As a fellow yankees fan I couldn’t agree more
Brilliantly done, almost inspires me to make a video for my favourite team
Go for it
Carlos Pena deserves so much love for his career. An all time Ray and an all time Tiger imo.
Brad Pitt couldn’t see the vision smh
@@AndThatsBaseball Broke: using nerd math for nerds to form a team 😐
Woke: "I got a good feeling about that guy" 😎
Your acct blowing up. I think you had 3.54k subs when i subbed. Good work
Great video didn’t know about Tampa wanted to draft mark tex and cutch
Imagine those 2008-12 Rays teams with those two guys
I can't imagine the pirates without mccutchen
I remember the Tampa Bay Double A’s.
Frank the Tank ahhh nickname
Do a video like this on one of the worst ran sports franchises in the Milwaukee Brewers been around since 1970 one world series appearance in 1982 and lost then 26 years without a playoff appearances and 10 total in the entire existence brutal
Rays are the best run team in the MLB for my money and theirs...
It's hard to believe that the Rays were worse than the Pirates because the shitty Pirates were on their way of setting the MLB record of the most consecutive losing seasons during the Rays early days.
Yeah, somebody's lyin', I could see the vibes on Ak'
Even he lookin' compromised, let's peel the layers back
yea kid you got the voice and the editing and the talent you're gonna go far
As a Mariners fan, I don't see how the Rays are worse. At least the Rays have made the World Series.
I meant the Devil Rays era in particular
Sorry, I'm still better over 2001. Lol
But, Devil Rays was a Goated name
Goated jerseys (the first ones, not the shitty solid green ones)
Pokemon music remix, nice.
Massive W for turning down better help
2 major drivers that made '92 and '98 MLB expansion necessary that were not covered here...
1. MLB owners were found guilty of 'colluding' in mid and late 80's to hold down the cost of signing free agents - restraint of trade.
Those owners did not want to pay MLBPA the penalty assessed by a judgment against them out of their own pockets.
By dangling expansion dreams to new owners (dupes) that would have to pay stiff entry fees to join and using these 'marks' the
other owners would significantly reduced their financial exposure.
2. CBS had a big say in the Gi-ants move from San Fran-whacko, threatening to significantly reduce the value of the next
national TV contract by moving a franchise from #9 to #15 market by size. After ruining the exposure that NBC Sports built
up for MLB over many decades CBS's financial problems and regaining the NFL package made MLB coverage not worth the cost.
There are many MLB markets where the vast majority of customers have to drive to the ballpark. Most of those are in land locked
areas and don't have to contend with the water crossings that fans outside of Pinellas County have to deal with - you should have mentioned that, not
just a random pix. Of those 'millions' living within a '2 hour drive' (yea, right) a large percentage are retirees or those on fixed or limited incomes. Not what works in MLB.
It wasn't '...the team in the city of Chicago agreed to build new (mallpark)..." it was the taxpayers of State of Illinois who footed the bill by a shady deal
done in the State Legislature - no surprise there. And now Jerry R. wants out of the South Side closer to the Loop dollars and move threats are already
floated.
'Success' was evident in Colorado, with a new mallpark on the way. But in Miami, from 3m in '93 attendance plummeted to 1.7m in '96. Wayne was more
interested in across-Florida TV numbers (Sunshine Net.) than fannies in the hot-steamy seats in JRS. Good chance that he was given a verbal promise by the
MLB owners/schisters that another Florida franchise would be far off - not a financial threat, yea, right...
3 years to build up an organization? Not bad considering the '61, '62 and '69 expansion teams all had only 18 months or less to get going.
You should have mentioned that McGriff is a Tampa native '...to sell some tickets...'.
Boggs, growing up in a military family did not settle in Tampa until he was 11 years old attending Plant HS there. Tampa isn't St. Pete.
The primary problem with the D-Rays was bad ownership - Vince Naimoli. Nuf - ced. Should have been mentioned earlier.
It was a group from Tampa/Hillsboro Co. that had the deal w/Gi-ants, not Vince. I suggest you read the book "Stadium for Rent" by local TB writer
Bob Andelman for correct info.
Tht clip from 'Moneyball' shows how the producers used Art Howe as the foil unfairly. Hoffman looks nothing like Howe - including the gut - it was
a cheap trick played on a class guy and astute baseball man.
Great vid!
Thanks!
respect for avoiding better help. it is a scam.
Rocco baldelli was the best devil ray in that early era imo
Certainly in that convo. Could've been a star if not for injuries
“Future alpha male aubrey huff” hahaha
Generational tweeter
Perna was talking about receiving all that backlash during a recent stream of his
I love Perna I felt awful for him reading those comments
I'm looking forward to part 2
For some reason I thought Jose Canseco was Tony Saunders. Made sense to me that he blew out his arm pitching. 😂
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
I was a bat boy back in 2004-2008 for an AAA team and we would face the Durham Bulls and at the time Elijah Dukes and Delmon Young were on that Bulls team lmao both HUGE douche bags to say the least.
Hideo Nomo was on the D Rays? I remember luminaries such as Jason Tyner, Brent Abernathy, and Jared Sandberg. But Nomo?
A ton of 90s vets had a minute with the d rays. Doc, Nomo, Denny Neagle and Robbie Alomar (spring training)
2006 Marlins salary cap was the highlight of the video. How on earth
38:58 Just wanted to mention it since I just saw it, but except for Casey Fossum, the rest of the names there are wrong, they're Brian Stokes, Jae Weong Seo, J.P. Howell and Shawn Camp respectively (Also Seo was a starter not a reliever). Other than that tho, the stats are right
They’ve only been a team about 25 years and have been in 2 World Series…
5:55 This is everything
finally people are remembering that betterhelp sucks
I thought I was watching too much Drake Kendrick stuff and I was hallucinating lmao w the 6:16 in the background
@20:08 the music is from some game I played in my childhood and I can’t remember lol. Has to be a Pokémon one
As a rays fan the first couple years were rough but recently it’s been getting a lot better only if stu would actually spend money 😢😢😢
Stu has made great hires, but he's seriously limiting the org by not spending
He is. On a new stadium.
That commentator coupled with that abandoned tomorrow world stadium made for an unwatchable ball club for me as a florida kid looking for a team
I will say, there are teams (or eras of teams) that were way worse. You just have to go back really far. The Expansion Washington Senators with only one winning season in their eleven miserable seasons in the MLB. The St. Louis Browns; who only won ONE pennant in their 52 years of existence. And TWELVE winning seasons total. The Philadelphia Athletics (who followed a formula of having a dynasty, then falling off a cliff and being absolutely horrible for years), The KANSAS CITY Athletics were awful; never winning more than 74 games in a season. The Phillies from 1916 to 1949 were horrendous (a grand total of TWO winning seasons during that span of 33 years [1916 and 1917, which after they won the NL pennant in 1915. Then they went 33 years without a winning season, before a a miraculous pennant win in 1950. The Boston Braves won two pennants and one World Series tile in 41 years, twelve winning seasons overall. And four of those came during the late 1940s and 1950 where they were carried by Warren Spahn and Johnny Sain. And a span from 1915 to 1945 where they had 8 winning seasons and 23 losing seasons. Their winning seasons came in streaks of either two or three, before having MORE (sometimes way more) than three losing seasons.
So yes, there were teams, either still around or defunct, who had stretches worse than the Devils Rays, but the Devils Rays awful seasons are probably more well-known because they happened recently, and there was more sports coverage and more media coverage, so people were able to see firsthand how dreadful the team was, and how horrible/ troubled some of the players were as human beings. And also how incompetent the ownership of this team was.
What's the music being blasted in the Carlos Pena HR compilation ? 👀
You should do a video like this about the 2000s and early 2010s Detroit Tigers