Alphas vs. Betas: Should Men Cry?
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2023
- You all asked for it, so here’s part-two of the newest Jubilee Middle Ground. The self-proclaimed alpha males and beta males are back to discuss even more controversial prompts surrounding relationships, gender differences, emotions, and more. Let’s get into it!
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My dad and I had a horrible relationship. I cut our relationship off at age 20. At about 28 or 29 my dad and I spoke for the first time in almost a decade and he apologized for the things he did and teared up, it was the first time I saw him cry. Had I not seen him cry I don’t know if I would have taken him seriously. He “apologized” before, but seeing him cry hit me and it showed me he really meant it. Our relationship grew from that point.
Aww I‘m really happy for you and your dad :)
@@Deliya81 thank you. Unfortunately he passed away a year ago. I am so grateful for the time we had and we’re able to actually build a real relationship. It all started with him being vulnerable. I will always cherish that time we had.
@@KendraSmith087 Sorry for your loss... and I'm glad that you two worked things out. But there is a big difference between a husband (the man you rely on to provide and protect; whether you consciously know it or not) and everyone else.
My dad has lost alot his biological dad his step father his brother his sister and by the time I came around he had 3 other sons and 2 divorces and then me and my sister were born my sister was and still is treated like a queen were as me and my 3 other brothers were treated like shit he physically abused my brothers he's only ever verbally abused me and when I was 13 he divorced my mum from there I kind of just gave up I gave into his words thought I was useless an idiot destined to just become a tradie grow old and die and when I started do bad at school the only thing he did was yell at me even tho beyond high school all I heard is that I'm useless I never made any friend and when I was bullied he just told me to beat my bully's up so he taught me how to fight by making me spare with my 26 year old brother cut to present day and now I have a shitty 9-5 for fuck all pay no longer in school I never see my siblings other than my drug addiction brother from time to time same with my drop kick brother and my sister well she's got plenty of friend a good part time job that pays more than mine (we do the same type of work) she's studying at Murdoch one of the best university's in Western Australia and a talented artist and has a great relationship with my father and a talented artist
But I don't blame my father I don't hate I just wished I was better
It's tragic when the only emotions that are deemed acceptable to show by most men are anger and lust. Sensitivity and tenderness should not be seen as weakness, nor only suitable for the "fairer" sex. Meekness is not weakness.
Totally agree. Some of the strongest men I’ve ever met in my life were/are also some of the most empathetic and caring. Being a cold, sex crazed animal makes you just that. An animal.
It really depends on how much. Like you can't be breaking down every time something does not go your way. That would be bad.
@@gandalainsley6467 That's not at all what I mean by being sensitive and tender. Those had more to do with the ability and willingness to show compassion and empathy towards another, as opposed to an inability or unwillingness to adapt and problem-solve when faced with challenges.
@@BurningFreesias You know in 2000s we actually got to a point where it was normal(just look at the action movies at the time. Nearly all of the characters in those movies had those traits.) and then everything guys did became toxic masculinity and in media guys got mocked and was shown as weak and then people started popping up who told to guys that people treat you like that because you show emotions.
@@gandalainsley6467 Yes, and it's a shame that too often has been the case. We shoot ourselves in the foot when on one side of our mouths we claim we wished men allowed themselves to be vulnerable, while on the other side mock them the moment they show it. I don't agree with the latter at all, and can only hope it will not push too many men to hardening their hearts. Because that's where you'll see over-corrections done that lean towards a type of masculinity that's legitimately "toxic."
That was sincerely one of the healthiest conversations about masculinity. They found some great people for the panel. No fighting or rudeness, just an exchange of ideas and a lot of common ground.
Totally agree!!
totally not what a comparable group of women would have done.
I really can’t understand why people think that a stay home mom is a submissive woman. I’m a stay home mom and I have the same say in my household as my husband. Just because I don’t earn money doesn’t mean I don’t have a say on things.
A. Lot of modern women have listened to feminist liberals and I woke women so they think that if a woman wants to be traditional in and stay at home and take care of her kids and her husband goes or boyfriend go out and work they think that’s bad I don’t think it is do you know if I got married to a woman tonight I could work or you know I had health problems I took I would have a problem taking care of the kids if I do you know if I had any and I don’t think of something wrong with traditional stuff is this is what happens when the communist and liberals in the world get in there they don’t let women choose their own path that’s about it
Mm it's really cool that you have authority in your home, no sarcasm. But I thinking that perspective comes from you not earning money so you are more vulnerable and also it would be more difficult for you to leave if you need to
I have a male friend who presents himself as extremely romantic and loving towards his girlfriend. He also has ambitious life goals involving his parents and girlfriend, without involving her decisions. And maybe she's also rather passive? In that case, they fit just right. My friend said that he would be choosing the names for his kids. And someone asked if his girlfriend knew and agreed. He hasn't told her, but he also said that she'd be okay with anything as long as he gives her money. Which includes decisions such as girls shouldn't work, shouldn't drive for others, shouldn't walk when he could afford uber, shouldn't be too independent, etc
Why do you make decisions if you make no money
@@mob9428 Why is making money the deciding factor for whether or not you can make decisions?
NEVER saw my dad cry. I agree with Amala....how she explained the outcome. You believe they aren't human. For many years I thought men had very basic feelings.
Men do cry behind close doors when no one can see him.
@@dvb8637 idk about dat. My dad literally cried to me yesterday lol
We cry when loved ones and pets die. If we cry other than that it is in the shower where it cannot be seen.
I understand but I already see my dad cry many times but I never find him as weak man
We’ve been taught, bro, that men should show emotion on my done my struggles to growing up in and dealt with some real angry people up men and chicks on both sides of the aisle, and they basically say you’re weak and stuff but you know I think to certain step men can be, but they’re also may need to be tough and learn to deal with it depending on what your inflation is or whatever your health wise or whatever you think, but no men have been taught that if you cry a lot or whatever you’re Beto no I believe some of that too because it shows you’re weak but then there’s a point where you have to say you know I have to deal with this that’s what health professionals and stuff are ferns for our home using family and friends whatever your situation is, but I agree to man
I don't think men are superior, and I don't think women are. We are both equal in respect. We both have different roles, but one is not over the other.
100%. In a healthy and functioning society we cannot have one without the other.
Couldn't have said it better
I also don't think men and women are that much different that we can or should speak of "different roles".
Anyone can take any role/function in a society, regardless the gender and sex.
I mean, what is in your view the "role" of a woman, what the "role" of a man?
In the end, differences between individual women are larger than the difference between the 'average' man and the 'average' woman.
Men are superior in some things, and women in others. We are similar in more things than we differ in. Same same but different.
@@offifee8022 I do see your point that there is a percentage of each group that doesn't fall into the average characterisation and that any role can be taken by certain individuals regardless of their sex, but I also believe that men and women have genetical predispositions towards certain behaviours/abilities/conditions etc. In that sense, I believe there are women carrying high intensity physical jobs for example, but the majority of their co-workers would be men rather than other women.
They’re COMPLEMENTARY- why are we even having this idiotic debate?
That’s what I’ve been asking for quite some time🙄🤦🏻♀️
Because many people do not agree with "complementary".
Sure, in a way men and women are - when it comes to reproduction.
But that's it. That is the one topic where men and women are complementary.
Where they are Not, but where some people falsely think they are:
- in relationships genrally (a relationship does not need to be 1 Male 1 female)
- in "character"/"Features"
With the second Point I mean: Many people have this simplified image of the rational, strong man and the emotional, social woman.
But this image does not meet the complexity of reality.
In reality, first many tendencies are human-made. We treat boys and girls differently from their first day, so that contributes to the statistical differences we observe.
And also, still those statistical differences are not as large that it verifies to say, men and women would be complementary, or to generalize over one gender in anyway.
Actually we know today, that the differences between individual women are larger than the differences between the 'average' woman and the 'average' man ;)
This comment was written by a female engineer who only discovered her interest for technical topics purely by Chance, for she many many year was raised with the thought that everything in that direction was "man's work" ;)
Because it gets clicks. Not great, but that's the reason.
Because concepts/personalities like “alpha males/beta males” exist lol. 😅
Thank the redpill
“Men aren’t gonna befriends with overweight women”
Me, an overweight woman with guy friends: “So you think I’m SKINNYYYYY
:)) Right! Part of the men there talked like they know everything about human relationships, and the fact that they relate so much on appearance alone is the proof that they are very confused and know, in fact, so little :) Being so sefl-absorbed to think that what you would do is the norm and the general rule is utterly preposterous.
Now this is a great sense of humor, that's beautiful Kayla
ngl I read the last part in Jim Carrey's voice ala Dumb and Dumber "so you're saying I have a chance" 😂
Iconic
I think you need to start re-evaluating your guy "friends" then.
My father cried in front of us and he is the strongest man I know. Showing Vulnerability is a strength..
Being emotional and showing emotion are two different things.
Being emotional is an unhealthy pattern.
Showing emotion is about understanding the group of emotions that are simultaneous or separated
and transforming them into kindness, empathy, and understanding.
Women are accused of forcing the guy to show emotion.
But the happy guy shows emotion in an emphatic way, without judgment and she doesn't put judgment on him for showing emotion.
as parents probably 100 years ago were judging the kid for showing emotion.
The woman wants him to show emotion, because on the other side of the emotion is happiness and balance.
Crying is an excellent human adaptation, it helps reduce stress, improves your mood and helps you bond with other people. It is a God given gift and should not be taken lightly.
Being emotional and showing emotion are two different things.
Being emotional is an unhealthy pattern.
Showing emotion is about understanding the group of emotions that are simultaneous or separated
and transforming them into kindness, empathy, and understanding.
Women are accused of forcing the guy to show emotion.
But the happy guy shows emotion in an emphatic way, without judgment and she doesn't put judgment on him for showing emotion.
as parents probably 100 years ago were judging the kid for showing emotion.
The woman wants him to show emotion, because on the other side of the emotion is happiness and balance.
John Gray says estrogen makes women talk about emotions more often. Testosterone suppresses the estrogen in a manś's body, to be calmer, so he may focus better. He says testosterone is about problem solving.
"Devils Never Cry, it's an emotion only humans can experience" -Dante.
@@bonerjams2k3 Quite a bold statement. Assuming youre a man..don't suppress your feelings buddy. It's okay to let it out. Crying isn't dictated by sexuality orientation or gender.
Crying means that you cannot handle what stress you're under so you're signaling for something to save you. Men are conditioned to not cry because no one is coming to save us.
@@meloquito like I said, gays and women
My dad said if your gonna cry it needs to be at the right place and time and reason. Once you do make sure you let it all out cause you can't keep coming back and crying about the same thing over and over instead of working through it and finding solutions.
Good point... I think men don't cry as often, because we'd rather DO something about it to make the pain go away rather than feel the emotional weight of it. Feels rather counter intuitive.
My Dad cried over some medical stuff he was going through which his work place was taking advantage of him for. We sat together and then we contacted the correct ppl to get the situation sorted. He doesn’t cry often but when he does, it’s always followed by productivity. He taught me to never let my life be governed my emotions because they change constantly. My Dad is my superhero. Forever n always.
it’s crazy to call yourself an alpha male but it’s even crazier to openly call yourself a beta lmaooo
Not seeing my dad cry or be emotional for most of my life made me not want to confide in him. To me he just seemed like a machine who didn't care. He appeared cold and unreachable on an emotional level.
Until one day, he finally showed emotions, my parents were on a break because of my dad's alcoholism that was too much for my mom as he wasn't doing anything to solve his problem (now he's taking the steps and my mom is helping him) and my dad called me and he cried one day. That's the moment I felt close to him, that I knew he was human, that he CARED about things and people. I believe it's good to show emotions because to me, this is how you create bonds and maintain them.
I like how some of them are acting as if sleeping with multiple women is natural but crying is not lmao
My dad cried in church, he'd cry when we had to bury our pets yknow. He was still my father and he was still the rock of my family. The tears just had meaning
My brother was not even two when he died. I was seven. If my father had not cried, I would have probably doubted his love for my brother, and thus for the rest of us.
I am sorry for your loss. Your dad's sincerity must have helped a lot to understanding what was happening
My dad was ex military. Never cried in front of us. Hardly showed emotions growing up. As a adult it’s hard to connect with him and know when he is upset, happy or sad. It’s literally a natural thing. Idk why men say stuff like this. It just hurts you and your family at the end of the day
I can't really comment much about the experience with a family member or even father ex military member, but yeah expressing feelings, and showing vulnerability is not really taught by others so much. 'Man up' or 'Tough it out' are two common phrases that I was told growing up. Maybe partly from my dad, but if I had to guess it was most likely in sports. Where specifically in sports, these phrases are likely said because of it not necessarily being wrong to show weakness emotionally or physically(let's say an injury), but the real intention is more like ' we have a game to win, so let's express our emotions later.' If I had to guess it's likely similar in the military, but just on a more extreme scale where losing can cost people's lives, so this suppression is likely taken more seriously there, and likely continues to remain throughout your life, as military trauma sometimes does. (unless you can work through it after if/when needed.)
Similarly to this, I played baseball growing up(also tennis and soccer), but baseball relates to this mostly. I was an all star player,(first base) and a good pitcher, but there were better players than me at that position. So I definitely felt a desire to want to be best at pitcher. And also expectations for pitchers, especially in high intensity games can get very high, so coaches will 'force' players to maybe play more than they should. ('force' is strong word, so I mainly mean like you won't be as respected for wanting to sit out.) So to get to the point, I injured my arm in a game because I pitched too long(there was a pitch count for Little League that wasn't always followed), but I wasn't the one to notice first that I was feeling pain, another of my teammates did, and called timeout and then I talked with my coach and sat out the game. And yeah I was out from throwing for about a month. I tried a couple pitches a week later to test, and felt a lot of pain in my arm. (Just to give an idea, I was unable to lock my elbow and raise it to my shoulder without feeling pain.) But yeah I do think I did not share earlier that I was experiencing some pain(until it was too late), because I did not want to show weakness, and it really wasn't until later that I realized asking for help is not showing weakness, but I do wish I'd ask for help more.
Lastly, I just want to mention, I'm so glad that I got into anime. Of course for everyone, how they learn to adapt and mature is different, but for me there have been several anime that have helped me learn to grow as a person and mature, and express emotion, something I don't think my parents could've necessarily taught me, though I will say the last few years my parents have opened up more emotionally, myself as well. But a few anime that come to mind are definitely Clannad/Clannad After Story. I won't spoil the story, and I would recommend if you're willing to embark on an emotional rollercoaster(just want to warn you), but the MC goes through many traumatic experiences, and learns to repair relationships over the show to find himself again, and also a big theme of the show is the world will change, and you have to learn to adapt with it. Naruto, Code Geass, and other shows are also some of my favorites for showing characters with very strong personalities express themselves emotionally in order to affirm their goals. So yeah as for the debate, finding shows/movies for role models to look at for how to grow and mature I think are also valid besides just your own family/friends etc, and definitely should not just be disregarded because 'anime is not real.' Every story is based on true stories/experiences, whether that story may be true or not.
Anyways I wanted to just bring anime into the discussion. Another anime masterpiece is 'Monster', and one thing shown in the show is some of the negative things that can occur when kids are not grown to express their emotions, and aren't cared for. I'll leave it at that, another good watch for anyone interested. Be prepared with this one though, it can get dark, and talks about some potential 'monsters' in society that either may still exist or may have existed in the past.
Because frequently females use men's emotions against them, or as a catalyst to end relationships.
Females themselves see these things as weak traits.
Men hold emotions because nobody cares about men, idk how you haven't gotten this yet with all the red pilling going on and society falling apart because men being disenfranchised, but you'll learn soon enough.
In Western countries, people are taught to be happy for a reason.
because it makes a great profit
if they tell you you are not good enough, they make you buy more products.
and it's short-term happiness.
In Asian countries such as Thailand and Sri Lanka, they are taught to be happy for no reason.
therefore they experience true freedom and happiness.
These are the happiest countries.
They dont argue with each other, they are not punished for showing emotions and they appreciate each other.
If you show any type of emotion in America, they make fun of you because males are not allowed to be happy they are allowed only to make money, but not be truly happy and have a normal opinion that is not approved by majority of people.
Men are NOT weak for crying! I work in a cemetery with a crematorium, so I give out the ashes back to families or funeral directors as well as see in burials and I do office work. I will never forget when a son (he must have been in his 40's) picked up his fathers ashes and as soon as I placed them on the table, he started crying. Men are human too and have emotion.
My fiancé cried to me talking about his Grandma who was like a mother to him passing away, I help him against my chest while he cried and I literally felt like he let me in a part of his soul most people don’t get to access. It made me feel so much closer to him and respect him so much more. 💜
"I believe non sexual attention toward women is very valuable" exactly dude, it is, but if you don’t respect me as anything other than a sexual objects, I’m not gonna be interested in you, dude.
That is it, precisely. Men like that do not view women as real human beings that they can have meaningful non-sexual interactions with, and saying things like this proves it.
I honestly wonder if they really see any other people, regardless of sex, as having any real value beyond what they can extract from the relationship to their own superficial benefit.
@@vevrvivnv Ironic coming from the hypergamous sex, it's palpable.
@@vevrvivnv Interesting thought. Every interaction is a transaction. Would anyone have any sort of relationship with anyone if they didn't get something out of it? Probably not. But, I don't know if that has to be looked at as a bad thing. Just a human thing...
I also want to say that a man who cry’s doesn’t mean he is weak. My fiancé and I had the to endure our youngest child go through open heart surgery at 5 days old and 6 months old. We both cried and where each other emotional strength. I could not have pushed through what we went through without him being vulnerable. And I love him so much more for it.
I would be more concerned with a man/father NOT crying during something like that.
Men complement women, women complement men. Putting one beneath you is counterproductive. Just work together. Men making all the decisions is old school. But women trying to control men makes me cringe. Have some respect for what they bring to the table.
Question could you get with a Virgin Nice Guy that no female wants, that u can verbally abuse and he wouldn't stand up for himself, lives in fears, makes 70k a year, average in every way and is weak ?
💯
Men can only compliment women if they’re attractive, ugly men can’t
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From his side of the story. Blue suit, Justin Waller's mother was pretty abusive to him and his siblings.
She did not stop the abuse until he got older and into football (basically muscles to defend himself). Sadly the abuse continued for his siblings until they were old enough to leave the situation. 😢 No one keeps in contact with the mother.
So sad😢
Plus size woman here: I have a guy friend, I know it’s crazy a guy wanting to be friends with an overweight woman 🤣 (and no I don’t buy him stuff haha)
Have you actually tried making a move on him? Don't assume that just because you're overweight that he wouldn't smash or at the very least accept the gawk gawk 3000. I have overweight female acquaintances that I'd never date or even hang out with in public, but a nut is a nut.
There's no such thing as men-women friendship.
He wants to bang you.
@@OSANsAdventures literally shut up
That guy, Locario, is pure sexism, period.
My mom told me that my dad cried when he asked for a divorce. I don't really know why because of the way he treated her and I was surprised he was the one that asked first. I have noticed that it is easier for my eyes to water from emotions since I was around 28. "Like I got softer around that time or something." Like certain sad death scenes in movies or watch The Wrong Side of Heaven music video and reading the stats will make my eyes water and sometimes get a few tears to roll down. I haven't really cried until two weeks ago today I had to put my 14 year old dog down. I cried multiple times that day and several on the following days. And now I'm fucking crying again because I stupidly just looked at some pictures of her while typing this. Men can and do cry, we just don't always want to show it and in fatherhood I can see where most of the time you don't want to let kids see it, specifically a son, as you do want to be that "rock" figure, but there are sometimes the tears convey what you want to tell them better.
Condolences on the passing of your dog. ❤
I’m very sorry about ur pup. I hope your sorrow will be replaced with joy of all the beautiful memories you have of her. Healing takes time, let it out as much as you need. ❤
Men should totally allowed to cry and show emotions. It’s human! It doesn’t show you’re weak or “less masculine” it just shows that you’re willing to not be embarrassed about just being human.
I have never had a completely platonic relationship with a male where they didn’t eventually hit on me. So yeah in marriage I chose not to bring those with me into marriage. Why do I need guy friends when I have a husband? And my husband feels the same. We keep in touch with our long term oppositesex friends that also got married. But even with them, we wouldn’t hangout with them without our spouses present. That’s just what we do to respect each other.
Your explanation of submitting to a larger goal was so spot on! Other people here on UA-cam really don't understand what a marriage or a partnership is about, and are crying about being the submissive wife, like girl, if you feel like a rug, you made yourself into one
My dad cried in front of me when his grandpa died. It showed me that he was a person too. I love when men cry it shows that they are well rounded (hahaha I don't love it but I appreciate it)
I loved the entire conversation. I also wanted to point out that I recently discovered your channel and I'm loving your videos. A lot of channels are just toxic and have an even worse community but not yours.
I love amala’s reactions to these videos
I thought this was supposed to be for Friday, lol oh well! Ill enjoy it now.
My dad was always, and still is, my hero. He is the rock in the family, worked relentlessly in his job while also imparting wisdom. When he was diagnosed with cancer, and went through multiple surgeries and chemo, at some points he did cry because he was scared for himself, but also for us - his family. It was raw emotion from him that came from a raw and painful place, and my respect and closeness with him grew in that time. I understood then that he was not only my hero, but that he was not superhuman, that he also needs our support, and that he is not lesser for that. He will always be a my role model. His strength and vulnerabilities are what makes him my dad, and I am proud and fortunate to have him in my life. His cancer (now gone) actually brought us closer as a family and taught me that we are not infallible, just human, and trying our best to live life and live for our family.
I think both parents should try not to cry in front of their children, at least young children. I have a very strong memory of my mother crying when I was too young to deal with that, when I was so young that in my worldview the mother was the one who comforted the child when the child cried. That experience was a source of instability at the time. The fact that I still have that memory, decades later, is relevant.
This makes me think of a great quote from My Big Fat Greek Wedding. Goes something like: “the man might be the head of the house but the wife is the neck, and she can twist the head any way she wants” 😂
Damn that’s accurate 😂
Hahha yes!!
no
@@LinkfromTLOZ28 yes.
@@QueenTootz nah thats not how that should work
All the jobs I had in my life were amazing nothing but brotherhood bonds BUT my last job I worked at a resort all women. I couldn’t handle it shit made me feel like I was in high school again. Nothing but gossip & immaturity I finally understood why women hate working with other women
Tbh it could be a really good thing or just straight hell
Don't make it so easy for yourself and stop generalizing ;)
Women are like this lol. They like to gossip and talk sh** about other women. Sometimes i literally saw my friends slut shame other women..but at the same time they could be very sweet and helpful. Just don’t make them dislike u and u’ll be fine.
@@offifee8022 maybe he is generalizing but idk man. Most women are the one who turned my life into sh**.
@@scarlett9750 you know "most women"?
Impressive, you came around a lot.
Joking aside, I'm sorry to hear that you are not satisfied with your life.
But I am very sure that is not 'womens' fault.
Maybe some individuals, who are women, had an impact.
But please don't let that turn you into a misogyn.
And I know enough men who like gossip too, and many women who would never slutshame and defend victims of that.
I've seen my dad cry in front of me. It took me a while to realize that whenever he cried in front of me he cried it was a part of his emotional manipulation when I was sharing my feelings and he didn't like what I was saying. Or when he was trying to manipulate me into thinking I wanted to spent more time at his house than just most weekends. But I do think healthy tears and emotional reactions from fathers are a good thing.
My dad always cried about specific thing growing up. He was a pastor so he would cry at church and he would cry when he talked about his kids (how much he loved us). My father is also what you might call an “Alpha Male”. He was the sole breadwinner, to rock for my mom (who is very emotional lol) but just because he is those things doesn’t mean he can’t sometimes show his own emotions. All it did for us was show us how much he truly cared about family and faith. Obviously I have an amazing father haha
Would love to see amala debate these kind of men
We each have our strengths. Even peers against each other have their strengths.
32:33 so glad you brought that up. i think the first time i saw my dad cry was when he got into an accident during a storm. i was 7 at the time. when i saw him on the hospital bed we both immediately started crying. it was hard seeing him like that because he already has an injured leg from another accident when he was 15 and spine problems. im not 100% sure why he cried but based on how he is, im guessing he cried because he was worried what couldve happened to me if it was worse:/ my dad raised me as a single dad literally bugging my mom all the time to keep me. she eventually had enough and just gave me to him. he got full custody. my dad wears his heart on his sleeve but he still isnt soft? he is known for his anger issues and harsh tongue. he is also very religious and whenever he prays for me he cries. i used to pray with him and i would hear him crying. ive seen my dad cry a lot… probably more than other kids and that didnt make me lose respect for him at all. it opened my eyes and helped me understand him more. it made me realize how big of a heart he has. even though he seems angry or can be very verbally combative, he has a soft spot especially for his kids. his tears showed me how much he loved me.
Thank you so much for what you said about stay-at-home mums ❤❤❤
Every time they would show the guys name and say he’s a Beta…Jesse Lee Peterson’s voice pops up in my head shouting “BETA” lol
Can men be just friends with an attractive woman or vice versa? Sure. But on the whole, close friendships between the opposite sex should not be permitted if you are in a monogamous relationship. You are sanctioning your replacement. His plan B. You are waving thru another person for your significant other to trust, lean on, spend time with, confide in, depend on, etc. I think Dennis said this too 🚩🚩🚩
i’ve only seen my dad cry once, when he picked me up from college & tested up. but my mom told me the story of one of the few times he’s cried (that i know of); when my adoption was at risk of falling through. & while i didn’t see it, it hangs in the back of my mind & has helped build the image of the man my dad is. i think even if you don’t physically see those instances of emotions or even the physical act of crying, being aware of certain times your parents had those moments is also important
Amala I LOVE the vaporwave backdrop/room😎. First time finding your channel! Love the content
I find these debates really, really frustrating, as I do most (if not all) dating gurus. Everything is black-and-white, you-must-do-this-or-that rhetoric with very little nuance. The fact is everyone is different, and what is gotten out of a relationship depends on the individual. Going into a relationship without an open mind and with a code of outdated and simplistic dating credo is likely going to end in disaster. This was a pure cringe-fest, in my opinion.
I think there are two types of nice guys. Ones that are genuine and expect nothing in return, and ones that have a motive. Plenty of “nice” guys will do things for a woman like pay for their dates, act chivalrous because they expect sex in return. It’s very real.
Is it because they want sex, or is it because they want a relationship with that woman?
@@stimproid it's because they think being chivalrous grants them sex from a woman.
and plenty women use those guys for validation and ro feel important and get free shit cause they think with their beauty they don't have to work for anything. That's how simps are born. Look at only fans. A bunch of simps paying women to see them naked, instead of saving theri money and trying to do better with their life.
Part 2 of Alpha Males vs Beta Males Jubilee middle ground series for me as a male is mixed results and views of the roles of a love relationship between Men and Women, keep up with the good work and issues of the day, Amala
Active submission, submissing with support and sharing what you think is the pros and cons of stuff, in my Sunday foundations class it was discussed and I find it nice to think about
MArried almost 18 yrs, we make decisions TOGETHER!!!
As a Christian woman who believes strongly that wives are called to submit to their HUSBAND. Purple shirt is a walking red flag.
My Grandfather always said that there is a lot more that can get done when your not worried about who gets the credit. in male and female relations this works better than worrying about who is the leader.
No. Neither se-x is superior to the other. Both are vital, specialized for their own tasks, and mutually supporting / complementary.
Amen you sexy beast
Well said and so true
@@SaultoPaulhhh
Very true, but the woke doesn't see it that way. Transwomen are superior to women, so therefore men are superior to women.
@@SaultoPaul, equality is non-existent in this phenomenal sphere. Equality exists in abstract ideas such as mathematics and arguably on the sub-atomic level ALONE.🤓
UNFORTUNATELY, it requires an intelligence quotient above double-digits in order to be able to comprehend such truthful concepts. 😛
The fact that there’s no such thing as “alpha” or “beta” males..
I think this was one of the better done debates of Jubilee and I liked your Input as a third neutral perspective. I don’t agree with the terms Alpha or Beta but I did appreciate the perspective of different men.
" Men and women can't be friends".
Friends aren't only made in parties, night clubs and high school activities. A lot of people make friends while going through difficult times together, overcoming hardships together and helping each other through their worst times . During these situations, we gain true friends and lovers and can see them separately.
It's a silly conversation. We each hold up half the sky......
Nope. The overwhelming majority of women CLAIM they want a sensitive, emotional guy. Almost NONE of them actually do.
I don’t mind a man taking the lead in a relationship but I do require a man to be able to consider my suggestions. Even Abraham had moments when he listened to his wife Sarah. Being a couple is about facing life together, it’s teamwork.
I love your videos. Watching from Germany.
Amala, you haven't gone through pregnancy yet. Women who go through pregnancy, childbirths and raising kids without getting emotionally unstable are extremely rare. Men are supposed to be the ones who are stable in order to stabilize their wife. Yes, it's not good for anyone to be emotionally unstable, but in the case of women it's impossible because women have to be high in neuroticism in order to be good mothers.
True. Which is how mn and wmn compliment eachother. When the wife is panicking and emotional, the husband consoles her...
Mashaallah, you're Muslim too. Barakallahu feeki
On the first question, the guy that stepped forward is right. Granted, it will not apply to everyone but going off my past relationships they did not last because I could not take control. I hate being controlling, so I will tend to let my partner be as free as they want. Fast-forward to when I met my wife, we were together for a long time but the more control I gave her the more toxic she got. She was very lazy did nothing and wanted me to come home after work cook clean and take care of everything, but ofc she wanted control of finances so she could know how much she can spend. After a year I had enough and went off on her after that I took control of the relationship she can't make purchases without approval outside of her own money, I take care of her best I can and however I can. We are both much happier with this arrangement, she told me she has been waiting for me to "grow a pair". Tldr - if you don't have control over your partner, they might lose attraction or take control themselves and could abuse the control, like my wife used to.
Money doesn’t make you alpha but broke does make you not alpha.
I'm sure a man can be friends with an attractive woman but I personally have bad experiences.
I like how your mind works! Beautiful inside and out!
Awesome show
The world needs more Kevin!
No car has two drivers simultaneously, it would crash. Men are the leaders, for the most part, in relationships. That is why so many relationships don't work these days because we are leaving the natural order of things.
Can anyone PLEASE help me understand wtf is being said in the damn intro song!? I’m so unbelievably obsessed with trying to figure it out 😂
Your speaking facts about men! Breath of fresh air to be honest , no grounded women wants a shell of a man
The thing I find interesting is that blue suit & purple shirt guys come at these questions in hypotheticals and assume that’s the way they will respond but the truth is when you go through it it may be completely different than what you expected.
ive only seen my dad cry once. and that was this past week. his father died. we all cried, because we LOVED this man. no, he was not a softer grandfather. but he always had a story. i wasnt really close to him. but i cried. a lot. if i had been just a few minutes faster getting to his house the night he died, i wouldve gotten to say goodbye. and here i am, yet again, crying.
In my experience successful relationships are about finding the right balance. Asking simplistic power questions are not helpful as the power balance in the relationship will find it's own levels.
Damn that 1
1st one brave for being the only one from the start
Mr. Locario is right about the non-sexual attention. Every time a girl wants me to be friends with her they ALWAYS want me to do something for them that they can’t. Fix this, fix that. Can you please check in my car engine I hear a clicking noise, I have no electrical power in my bathroom. Can you please install some wire for me there(I do construction and cars by the way). Also they expect some kind of protection when even if some random girl calls me a bad word or hits me randomly “my friend girl” won’t stand up to her. So yeah. It is completely pointless being friends with a girl unless they pay you for all your services. They never come without a checklist for a guy. Girls wanted feminism and equality. Roll up your sleeves and start laying down new shingle on your roof or the plumbing by yourself unless you pay me. Cash is King!
My dad is the perfect balance of showing emotions and being a rock. He always made a point that he was a human just like me.
Thanks!
My actual comments are below. But I love ya all. Keep on with being yourself
I respect and trust a man that shows his vulnerable side to me than someone who does not express his emotions. He shows me he's also human and has feelings.
On the bit about the "nice guy". I think some of these guys think men who act nice to get what they want, not because they are actually decent human beings,, get mixed into this group. Those types are manipulative and disingenuous, which women can sense from miles away, so it may "appear" we don't like nice guys but really we don't like "fake nice guys".
I’d like to point out, that this type of discussion assumes that ALL humans (men and women) have the same temperaments, morals, values, education, income, health, etc. 15% of the population are highly sensitive. That’s boys and girls, men and women. There is not a one-size-fits-all approach to relationships. Agree to disagree. Live and let live.
I think its really interesting that those guys actually said yeah 'call me Beta for this discussion'... so strange!!
Hi, I know this is irrelevant to this video’s theme but I’m a 20 year old from the uk and I’ve heard of Jim Crow laws but have no idea what they are, do you think this is a video theme you could discuss in the future? I know i can just Google this but I have ADHD (sorry to be that guy lol) so I personally don’t take information in very well by just reading. I feel like you would explain it without bringing personal emotions into it (during the initial explanation, anyway) which I appreciate.
By the way, thank you for creating such a pleasant environment for people on both political sides to discuss topics respectfully.
PRAGERU!!!!!
I don’t pay attention to any of these self titled alpha males, because almost none of them are in long-term relationships
24:17 - maybe I'm a unicorn in this respect, I've got plenty of friends, both male and female, but I never "try something" with any of my female friends - they're friends for a reason, I don't see them as anything more.
Men and women ARE capable of having friends with the opposite sex without it going further without it going any further.
Showing strong emotions can actually be very powering, at least in my opinion. When someone, who is usually very stable emotionally, all of a sudden gets angry at you, you know you did seriously ef up. And similar if a person like that cries, you know it is serious.
A comparison. Not a competition law of the universe place Alphas winning that debacle every Time.
I have a narcissistic mother who regularly abused me, my sister AND my father. He has always been the provider at home, the one who brought in the money, the one who took the first step in difficult situations. I can tell you this, if it wasn't for him crying sometimes I wouldn't have made it and I literally mean life. I would not have survived my mother if it wasn't for my dad showing through his emotions how destructive my mother's behavior was. The fact that he cried, this strong force in my life, justified the feelings I had. It showed me that how I felt was ok and that I wasn't the only one feeling this sadness. If he had hidden his feelings I would've felt so much more alone..
The one thing I do wish now...is that he would have been strong enough to choose his kids over his abusive wife.
This isn’t an examination of alphas vs betas, it’s an examination of the types of people who self identify as an alpha vs those who self identify as a beta lol
Who could trust Hilary with the big red button?
My boyfriend and I switch hats constantly, it depends on the day we’re having. I could be having a really stressful week and I’ll be crying and he’ll be the rock and he’ll clean the apartment and do the chores, and I will do the same thing for him when he’s having a hard week or when he’s crying. I think it’s important to be able to change roles as needed and pick up the other person’s slack when they can’t do it. No one is immune to hard times and emotions and a significant other is there to be the rock during those times, no matter the gender. Also with the guy friend thing, I personally think they can be friends, when I was in college I had mostly guy friends, now I’ve moved to a different state and still have mostly guy friends. I think it has to do with personality and being around people you’re comfortable with. As a young conservative woman I think naturally I come to be friends with more guys because we see things eye to eye more often, and as far as I know none of them see me as more than a friend lol they ask me for girl advice all the time
Someone once told me that there are two types of people in this world...one cries on the outside, the other cries on the inside. People that cry externally have to be very careful NOT to intentionally elicit an emotional response from people in their environment that are susceptible.
If you are with a man who has been raised by very emotionally and physically distant parents,you better figure out if you want to deal w that because it is a very lonely day to be when they aren't capable of reaching out to you when you need it. My advice on relationships is that if a man has not had a long term relationship by the age of 25 ,meaning anything over 2 years. , even if you really like him, don't get involved. He is emotionally immature and he will fuck up the first relationship he has . Some things we are taught are more important than others and some things can be learned by experience but how you are emotionally is learned when very young. You may use therapy to find out about your self but learning to connect with others as an adult is much harder. An emotionally distant man is not what most women want in a partner. It's like some part is missing 😕.
I cry when someone I love gets hurt or dies. When I get hurt I swear....mostly at myself for being stupid enough to either hurt myself or allow myself to get hurt.
The whole "nice guys finish last" trope is in relation to sexual attraction. You don't see all these women on tik tok crying about the "nice guy" that pumped and dumped them. Its always that alpha A-hole Chad/Tyrone. Amala may have agreed with Kevin the beta, but id bet my entire year's earnings that she'd never let him smash. I know from experience of having been both types of guys at different points of my life.
No one is entitled to sex. That’s just objectification at that point.
@watitduful you must be replying to a different comment, or lack reading comprehension. I never said anyone is entitled to sex.
@@OSANsAdventures I'm replying to you. If it wasn't meant for you it wouldn't have been a response "genius." You implied it by noting that she'd never let him "smash." If she doesn't despite being in agreement with him it doesn't matter. One doesn't have anything to do with the other. Her body her choice. Same if it was a man. So while you didn't say it word for word you clearly implied it. My advice to you would be to humanize women and you may have better luck getting one. It takes self awareness to do that. Talking crap on a computer and whining about who's laying who all day isn't fly. Pathetic way of thinking.
@@OSANsAdventures Amala capping alot like all women. a man who is weak does not make a woman attractive. a man who is very feminine turns a woman off and amala. knows it. But they so want to be validated that they would lie to the grave just for that attention. As a man you have to set standards and sometimes that means losing the woman. Women always want the man they can't have. The one who never worships them like Gods. The ones who Worship them are the ones they shit on AWLAYS.
I’ve seen my dad cry three times in my life. The first time was when my grandpa died (his dad). The second was when my mom died and the third was when I moved out of state
There is a time and place for emotions. When it is constructive, it is good. However, if you are crying because the floor underneath you is collapsing, you will do nothing to get yourself to a safe place. You don't cry in the thick of battle. You win the battle or retreat, then cry.