Just put on a Teraflex leveling kit for ~$180. Lifts the front 2" and the back 1" to get rid of the factory rake. Also put on some 33s and it looks and rides fantastic. Highly recommended.
Thanks. This is very helpful. You’re right when you are happy with the comfort of your suspension there’s nothing wrong to use spacers. Most of the shop insists to install after market lift kit right away. You save me to spend couple of bucks. Great!
Great Video! Stock Jeeps are incredibly capable so there is no need to spend thousands unless you looking to get into some serious hard-core wheeling. I just put on a leveling kit that brought the nose up 2" and the rear 1". I am running 295/70/17's with zero rub. A quick (and free) jk fender trim will easily allow 35's with no rub.
it will not give you better articulation, but it will improve approach, breakover, and departure angles and allow you to run a slightly bigger tire. with that being said, I think its great.
Did the teraflex kit on my JT, it was nice to keep the factory fox 2.5” and mojave coils. Rides like a dream and plenty of room for my 35’s or 37’s in the future. Still very capable! Good enough for mist in my opinion
Almost no one goes off-road with their trucks. And if they do it Is less than 5-10% of the time. People act like if they put a lift kit on their trucks they will magically stock going to Walmart. Lift kits are over priced so getting something cheap that does the same job is a plus
I installed spacers only. Everything else is factory. Didn’t require shock extenders etc. everything’s been working for over a year with no issues that I can see or feel. 35” tires. $90 spacers from Amazon.
Thanks a lot for your video; it was really useful to clear my mind regarding this coil spacers. I just have a couple of questions; what kind of tools do you need to do it by yourself? Could you share the type of tire you are using? is the rub a problem or it is something you can live with? Im not a rock crawler; Im more interested in overlanding with some offroad. Thanks again for your great explanation.
Just basic hand tools for the most part. If you are looking at the exact Rough Country kit I installed here, just go to their website and click the link for the install instructions. The actually list all of the tools you’ll need. The Jeep has a 35x12.50R17 Nitto Ridge Grappler. If you disconnect the front sway bar, you are going to rub a good bit on the front fender. If you are doing light wheeling and stay connected, you can most certainly get away with this setup.
Same here buddy, honestly I like hitting them small puddles but doing them deep pits and rock climbing just worries me of breaking something. I’m not car savvy so I can’t afford paying a mechanic for breaking a driveshaft or whatever
i just need it for mt tj for clearance, my tyres barely barely rub on the outside of the stock tj fender flares so for my its just so my tyres can tuck up better
Nice video - hey I'm looking to just balance out the rake caused by adding a steel bumper/winch on my '21 JLUR. Not really trying to upgrade to 35"s until I need new tires, I do off road it, mostly moderate trails - mud/ruts, some rocks - Uwharrie, etc. Any issues with a 3/4" spacer on the front just to balance out the rake for now. If.....I think I need to go to 35"s when the time comes to swap tires I'd probably do a full 2" lift with shocks, LCA's, etc.
I need some help. I have a daily driver Toyota Hilux and I want to add some wheels and bigger tires and was thinking to do a 2inch lift using a strut extension. so many people are advising me not to do it and do a full suspension upgrade. and my truck is a 4x2 rear wheel drive. should I spend $1500 for a suspension lift or $50 for a strut kit?
Thanks for the video! I'm seeming some small sag with my new jl I have a steal bumper front and back with side steps as well as a winch and I've been reaching out to big companys who has not replied back. I'm looking for something that will take the sag away as well as have a aggressive look. With 33s. I have no clue what to look at. There are so many lifts and I just want to be sure to have what i need with out death wobble and bad driving performance for everyday drive.
thanks for watching! Check out TeraFlex. The have a 1.5-inch spacer kit that you can actually separate. This means you can either run the 1/2-inch spacer or 1-inch spacer alone, so you can get closer to the exact height you need.
I have a 2 1/2 in spacer lift on my 2015 JKU and 35’s. I have after market inner liners and I am rubbing when off roading. Can I get a taller spacer lift and if so would I have to upgrade any of the suspension parts? Or is 2 1/2 as tall as you can go and keep stock suspension
I would not recommend going any higher with a spacer lift. I am surprised to hear you’re rubbing with aftermarket fenders, I would maybe look into adding bump stops. It’s also possible that you’re rubbing due to wheel backspacing. It’s hard to say without knowing the specs.
Hey, I got a question for ya. If you install the shock extender the displacement on the spring will, of course, be compensated and your spring rate is the same. What if you leave that out and just compress the spring more? That would increase the spring rate right? Now I understand that there's no such thing as a free lunch, and something will probably go wrong I somebody was to try that, I'm just trying to figure out what exactly. Your suspension will be under a higher load when the car is off its wheels, but I find it hard to imagine that the weight of the vehicle will not be more than that pretension already is. So when it's sitting on its tires the load must be the same as before the install. Will the higher spring rate wear the other suspension components faster?
This was not re-geared. Gearing would help for sure. For 35s, I recommend 4.88s if you want more power or 4.56 gears if you are looking for better fuel economy.
Hi, nice video, what is your opinion on polyurethane coil spacers? I'm quite new to this and want to add some 4-5 centimeters to my car and cant find any that are steel..
I don’t know a lot about that platform. If you are increasing tire size, my assumption is going to be that you need to space down or relocate your stock bump stops. If not, the tire will travel too far into the fender, which could create rubbing issues. I would reach out to Eurowose and ask them about it. If you’re not changing the tire size dramatically, there might be enough clearance where it won’t be an issue.
You can, but it’s typically not recommended. It largely depends on how large the spacer is and what the suspension kit is engineered for. Plenty of people use a small spacer up front after installing a winch front bumper, but that’s generally the only time you’ll see those two types of lifts together.
@@DrivingLine yea I installed a front bumper and winch after the lift and I feel as if the lift got lower and the front is pointed down so I don’t know if I should just put spacers or a leveling kit
hey i have a question i have a lift 4.5 on my jl i lift the car 3 years ago but now i want to go bigger you think i can add the spacer still on the car i went with terrafoex lift kit
If you have control arm drop brackets, you could probably get away with it. However, that’s a lot of lift for stock length control arms. I would not attempt it if the arms are in the factory spots. A long arm upgrade would help considerably if you want to get more than 4.5 inches of lift.
Ideally, one that comes with new shocks, cam bolts, and track bar brackets and/or an adjustable track bar would be ideal. It's more about the components than anything else. This Rough Country one works fine.
That's a tough one. We did a quick search and didn't find anything. Your best bet would be to take it to an experienced off-road shop and let them take a look at it. There might be cross-over suspension bits that they can identify.
So I have a 2.5 inch teraflex lift with 33s and aftermarket wheels and I had a leveling kit before that so now the lift brings down the front end because I have a heavier aftermarket bumper and winch, If I get a 1 inch teraflex coil spacer for the front to kind of level it out will that be the right choice? I don't want a droopy end and want to level it out and Im wondering if thats the right choice.
Hello, if i get this coild lift do i need any brackets for geometry correction, adjustable track bar, upper and lower control arm etc? I just want to drive the jeep on road no off-road at all! Thankyou
@@DrivingLine so the front lower control arm right? What if i dont get it rn will the alignment be that bad and cause uneven tire wear? What about trackbar? I just changed my factory trackbar to a factory one again i didnt know i was getting a lift or else would get a adjustable one
Most companies offer a shock upgrade or extensions. Your best best is to purchase the spacers and shocks from the same company. This way you know you'll get the proper length shocks.
Hi there. Hope you can help me here. I have a fortuner 2018, stock height. I was planning to install coil spacers for both front and rear. But here is the question. There is a kit coil spacers front(2.5inch) and rear(2inch). Will it look like its not balanced ? I mean the front is about .5inch in height than the rear. What you think about it please?
Most SUVs and trucks are slightly taller in the back from the factory. That's why so many spacer and lift kits provide more lift in the front. This was the case for the spacer kit I installed here.
@@DrivingLine if i install coil spacers on my fortuner 2018, front will be 2.5inch and rear will be 2inch. Will that look good? I have 265-50-R20 tires and mags. My mags are Rhino Shrapnel. Let me know your views please.
I didn’t hear any mention of driveline angle. Will it max out the drive lines at full drop? 2 door and and 4 door will have different rear driveline angles.
Not necessarily. Companies such as AEV make higher end spacer lifts that help improved off-road performance, while maintaining the factory ride quality. For the most part, they are intended to be an entry level suspension upgrade for sure.
Just put on a Teraflex leveling kit for ~$180. Lifts the front 2" and the back 1" to get rid of the factory rake. Also put on some 33s and it looks and rides fantastic. Highly recommended.
And are you using stock shocks? Or shock extenders?
Thanks. This is very helpful. You’re right when you are happy with the comfort of your suspension there’s nothing wrong to use spacers. Most of the shop insists to install after market lift kit right away. You save me to spend couple of bucks. Great!
Great Video! Stock Jeeps are incredibly capable so there is no need to spend thousands unless you looking to get into some serious hard-core wheeling. I just put on a leveling kit that brought the nose up 2" and the rear 1". I am running 295/70/17's with zero rub. A quick (and free) jk fender trim will easily allow 35's with no rub.
it will not give you better articulation, but it will improve approach, breakover, and departure angles and allow you to run a slightly bigger tire. with that being said, I think its great.
One of the best explanations of when to use lift spacers comfortably. Really appreciate it!
Thank you!
Did the teraflex kit on my JT, it was nice to keep the factory fox 2.5” and mojave coils. Rides like a dream and plenty of room for my 35’s or 37’s in the future. Still very capable! Good enough for mist in my opinion
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Ordered it for my 09 Liberty limited. Fitting a 2010 Wrangler rims with 33’s
Almost no one goes off-road with their trucks. And if they do it Is less than 5-10% of the time. People act like if they put a lift kit on their trucks they will magically stock going to Walmart. Lift kits are over priced so getting something cheap that does the same job is a plus
If you have a Rubicon it comes with a better suspension so this isn't a bad deal for intermediate trail riding imo.
Very well explained
I installed spacers only. Everything else is factory. Didn’t require shock extenders etc. everything’s been working for over a year with no issues that I can see or feel. 35” tires. $90 spacers from Amazon.
You can put the factory Mopar LCA that are longer for like 65 bucks
This is such a helpful video thank you! Super informative
Thanks a lot for your video; it was really useful to clear my mind regarding this coil spacers. I just have a couple of questions; what kind of tools do you need to do it by yourself? Could you share the type of tire you are using? is the rub a problem or it is something you can live with? Im not a rock crawler; Im more interested in overlanding with some offroad.
Thanks again for your great explanation.
Just basic hand tools for the most part. If you are looking at the exact Rough Country kit I installed here, just go to their website and click the link for the install instructions. The actually list all of the tools you’ll need. The Jeep has a 35x12.50R17 Nitto Ridge Grappler. If you disconnect the front sway bar, you are going to rub a good bit on the front fender. If you are doing light wheeling and stay connected, you can most certainly get away with this setup.
So helpful! I am a mall crawler and not afraid to say it :)
Same here buddy, honestly I like hitting them small puddles but doing them deep pits and rock climbing just worries me of breaking something. I’m not car savvy so I can’t afford paying a mechanic for breaking a driveshaft or whatever
Well done!
Great information 👍🏼
Really appreciate the amazing information! This helps so much! Bam
Thank you very much for this video I learned a lot from you!!!
i just need it for mt tj for clearance, my tyres barely barely rub on the outside of the stock tj fender flares so for my its just so my tyres can tuck up better
Good vid.
Thank you!
Awesome video! Keep up the great work👍
Nice video - hey I'm looking to just balance out the rake caused by adding a steel bumper/winch on my '21 JLUR. Not really trying to upgrade to 35"s until I need new tires, I do off road it, mostly moderate trails - mud/ruts, some rocks - Uwharrie, etc. Any issues with a 3/4" spacer on the front just to balance out the rake for now. If.....I think I need to go to 35"s when the time comes to swap tires I'd probably do a full 2" lift with shocks, LCA's, etc.
If you're just trying to bring the front end back up from the bumper pulling it down, there's nothing wrong with just adding a front spacer.
excellent vid😎
Thank you.
I need some help. I have a daily driver Toyota Hilux and I want to add some wheels and bigger tires and was thinking to do a 2inch lift using a strut extension. so many people are advising me not to do it and do a full suspension upgrade. and my truck is a 4x2 rear wheel drive. should I spend $1500 for a suspension lift or $50 for a strut kit?
Thanks for the video! I'm seeming some small sag with my new jl I have a steal bumper front and back with side steps as well as a winch and I've been reaching out to big companys who has not replied back. I'm looking for something that will take the sag away as well as have a aggressive look. With 33s. I have no clue what to look at. There are so many lifts and I just want to be sure to have what i need with out death wobble and bad driving performance for everyday drive.
thanks for watching! Check out TeraFlex. The have a 1.5-inch spacer kit that you can actually separate. This means you can either run the 1/2-inch spacer or 1-inch spacer alone, so you can get closer to the exact height you need.
I have a 2 1/2 in spacer lift on my 2015 JKU and 35’s. I have after market inner liners and I am rubbing when off roading. Can I get a taller spacer lift and if so would I have to upgrade any of the suspension parts? Or is 2 1/2 as tall as you can go and keep stock suspension
I would not recommend going any higher with a spacer lift. I am surprised to hear you’re rubbing with aftermarket fenders, I would maybe look into adding bump stops. It’s also possible that you’re rubbing due to wheel backspacing. It’s hard to say without knowing the specs.
Hey, I got a question for ya. If you install the shock extender the displacement on the spring will, of course, be compensated and your spring rate is the same. What if you leave that out and just compress the spring more? That would increase the spring rate right? Now I understand that there's no such thing as a free lunch, and something will probably go wrong I somebody was to try that, I'm just trying to figure out what exactly.
Your suspension will be under a higher load when the car is off its wheels, but I find it hard to imagine that the weight of the vehicle will not be more than that pretension already is. So when it's sitting on its tires the load must be the same as before the install. Will the higher spring rate wear the other suspension components faster?
it's great. would wear that shock out very fast.
sorry i don't remember if he mentioned re-gearing with the 35s?
This was not re-geared. Gearing would help for sure. For 35s, I recommend 4.88s if you want more power or 4.56 gears if you are looking for better fuel economy.
@@DrivingLine thank u
Hi, nice video, what is your opinion on polyurethane coil spacers? I'm quite new to this and want to add some 4-5 centimeters to my car and cant find any that are steel..
🤙 nice video
Thank you.
sorry question I'm really new to this so please don't judge but can you put spacers and do light off roading?
Yes. Spacers are fine for light off-roading.
I have a Touareg and will buy the eurowise 4 inch lift i will never go of road but i will hit the acasional pot hole do i need to buy new bump stops?
I don’t know a lot about that platform. If you are increasing tire size, my assumption is going to be that you need to space down or relocate your stock bump stops. If not, the tire will travel too far into the fender, which could create rubbing issues. I would reach out to Eurowose and ask them about it. If you’re not changing the tire size dramatically, there might be enough clearance where it won’t be an issue.
Would it be ok to put these spacers while on a lift already
You can, but it’s typically not recommended. It largely depends on how large the spacer is and what the suspension kit is engineered for. Plenty of people use a small spacer up front after installing a winch front bumper, but that’s generally the only time you’ll see those two types of lifts together.
@@DrivingLine yea I installed a front bumper and winch after the lift and I feel as if the lift got lower and the front is pointed down so I don’t know if I should just put spacers or a leveling kit
A small spacer will work perfectly fine.
You think 2 in and 1.75 or 1.50 in the back would be too much
I would just go with as little as possible so you don’t have any suspension geometry issues.
hey i have a question i have a lift 4.5 on my jl i lift the car 3 years ago but now i want to go bigger you think i can add the spacer still on the car i went with terrafoex lift kit
If you have control arm drop brackets, you could probably get away with it. However, that’s a lot of lift for stock length control arms. I would not attempt it if the arms are in the factory spots. A long arm upgrade would help considerably if you want to get more than 4.5 inches of lift.
There are a few spacer packages on the market… What is the BEST lift spacers package for JKU 2011-2018 that you recommend?
Ideally, one that comes with new shocks, cam bolts, and track bar brackets and/or an adjustable track bar would be ideal. It's more about the components than anything else. This Rough Country one works fine.
I wanna get a lift for a 2018 GMC Terrain , but there’s no suspension kits for it. Are coil spacers my only option and can I get one?
That's a tough one. We did a quick search and didn't find anything. Your best bet would be to take it to an experienced off-road shop and let them take a look at it. There might be cross-over suspension bits that they can identify.
So I have a 2.5 inch teraflex lift with 33s and aftermarket wheels and I had a leveling kit before that so now the lift brings down the front end because I have a heavier aftermarket bumper and winch, If I get a 1 inch teraflex coil spacer for the front to kind of level it out will that be the right choice? I don't want a droopy end and want to level it out and Im wondering if thats the right choice.
Adding the spacer to bring the nose back up is common practice. You should be fine.
Can I stack these on 6in rough country lift?
We would not recommend that. You should reach out to Rough Country if you are thinking about modifying their kit in this way.
Hello, if i get this coild lift do i need any brackets for geometry correction, adjustable track bar, upper and lower control arm etc? I just want to drive the jeep on road no off-road at all! Thankyou
I would recommend a set of lower control arms to properly dial in the castor. Other than that, you will be fine with this kit as you see it here.
@@DrivingLine so the front lower control arm right? What if i dont get it rn will the alignment be that bad and cause uneven tire wear? What about trackbar? I just changed my factory trackbar to a factory one again i didnt know i was getting a lift or else would get a adjustable one
and if you buy spacers can you also by shocks or does that not work?
Most companies offer a shock upgrade or extensions. Your best best is to purchase the spacers and shocks from the same company. This way you know you'll get the proper length shocks.
Hi there. Hope you can help me here.
I have a fortuner 2018, stock height.
I was planning to install coil spacers for both front and rear.
But here is the question.
There is a kit coil spacers front(2.5inch) and rear(2inch). Will it look like its not balanced ? I mean the front is about .5inch in height than the rear.
What you think about it please?
Most SUVs and trucks are slightly taller in the back from the factory. That's why so many spacer and lift kits provide more lift in the front. This was the case for the spacer kit I installed here.
@@DrivingLine if i install coil spacers on my fortuner 2018, front will be 2.5inch and rear will be 2inch. Will that look good? I have 265-50-R20 tires and mags. My mags are Rhino Shrapnel.
Let me know your views please.
Can i still do offroading for this?
Yes.
what size are the rims
17x9
Is the 2 1/2 spacer the highest they go??
That is correct.
motofab makes a 3 inch spacer kit.
Man I’m just trying to fit some big ass winter tires on my car 😂
I didn’t hear any mention of driveline angle. Will it max out the drive lines at full drop? 2 door and and 4 door will have different rear driveline angles.
Does not come close to maxing out the stock drivelines. Not sure on the two-door.
He said “Bump Stock”
anyone notice the humming bird
was that a fairy at 1:41??
🤣 Possible. Or a wasp that was looking for a little screen time.
@@DrivingLine 🤣🤣
So the jist is a spacer lift is perfect for mall crawling.
Not necessarily. Companies such as AEV make higher end spacer lifts that help improved off-road performance, while maintaining the factory ride quality. For the most part, they are intended to be an entry level suspension upgrade for sure.