Mooji vs Rupert Spira ... BIG DIFFERENCE
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2022
- Mooji vs Rupert Spira ... BIG DIFFERENCE
Yoniji Spiritually Awakened through listening to Mooji. I have an IQ of 135, am highly sensitive, feel nadis/chakras/energies, am an energy healer, have done 1000 sessions with women for healing and also group sessions with up to 30 participants in different cities. Before that professional musician, self-taught graphic designer and programmer. Currently traveling in a campervan and on a trip around the world. Have an MBA from Spain. I've been single for 4 years. I like French, Czech, Latinas and Japanese :-) Speak 6 languages: DE, IT, CZ, ES, FR, EN
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You're stuck at the level of mind in this video. You're looking at the fingers instead of the moon. You're overlooking the formless and focusing on form. You're looking through the lens of ego. I do it too, I do it every day. This is so subtle.
Its his personal feelings , you cant deny the form which comes out of formless, and this was his form that cane out of this guy formless , let it manifest just as Spira teaching manifest and mooji teaching , let this guy also manifest , he clearly sees what you seeing and still saying it let him say maybe the content helps someone
Agree. Saw the same thing. Life as mirror. He’s mirroring his own ego lens through his comments about Rupert Spira (says my humble form)
I like both for different reasons..... Sometimes I am more attuned with mooji and sometimes I am more attuned with Spira.... Both seem very lovely and they are definitely talking about the same experience.... Tolle I love also
I love them all and I am so grateful to be able to listen to them, they changed my life
Thanks for sharing!!
I have listened to both Rupert Spira and Eckhart Tolle, and find both very informative, I have not yet, but will look at Mooji
@@simonhitchenk9 I would also suggest Francis Lucille (he was the teacher of Rupert Spira)
Rupert and Mooji are like Roses and Tulips. The perfume from each of them is sweet and true. It seems that you are troubled by which of the two is more of a flower than the other.
Thoughts about thoughts about thoughts about thoughts...
I watch both Mooji and Rupert, they are very different from each other. Must admit that I can feel more presence and love from Mooji, but then Rupert is so good with explaining about consciousness. It all depends upon their energies. Love them both though. 🙏🕊🙏
who needs the explanation of consciousness? you are already that
They are both wonderful teachers that have helped many persons tremendously. One isn't "better" or more effective at helping people awaken than the other. It depends on what a person resonates with.
When the student is ready, the master appears and it can be in many forms, also by f.e. a book, a smell, etc.
Mooji presents himself more as a traditional guru and he's revered by most of his followers . Rupert presents himself as a spiritual friend or guide. The way they interact with their students draw different types of people. You won't see Rupert dressed in Indian robes, people aren't going to touch his feet or sing him spiritual songs. He attracts people who aren't drawn to a more traditional India guru. The way they present their teachings has absolutely nothing to do with their level of awakening. Because you were moved by Mooji's teaching doesn't mean that everyone will feel the same connection.
Nisargadatta Mahararji and Mooji had completely different teaching styles, you generally wouldn't see Nisargadatta interacting with his students in a devotional way that Mooji's react to him. In fact N could be quite confrontational.. You'd be making a big mistake if you limited Nisargadatta's understanding based on his teaching style.
Bro, can’t it be both/and? Must it be either/or? Must it be better/worse? Authentic/non-authentic?they are both giving voice to experience. In love, let go of judgement and categorization.
Distinction is in the eye of the beholder.
Mooji had a teacher from a different culture, Rupert and the people around him live in Western society, not in a closed, isolated center like Mooji now, where you can't enter. These are romantic ideas, it would be worth getting to know this world from the inside, but the combination of Rupert's very deep insight with his practical side, set in the Western world and our civilization, seems to bring beautiful results. I know people who have met both of these teachers, they both have a beautiful role in the process and neither face of God is more beautiful than the other.
From Rupert spira website: "Rupert also studied the teachings of Ramana Maharshi and Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj on a continuous basis"... "Dr. Roles was himself a student of Shantananda Saraswati, the Shankaracharya of the North of India. Under his guidance Rupert learnt mantra meditation and was introduced to the classical system of Advaita", just to show that Rupert had learned and practiced Indian traditions mainly Advaita Vedanta before he met Francis Lucile his last teacher.
@@elifineart During his journey, he got to know and explore the topic from many sides, the main point is that I would not dare to compare teachers based on UA-cam clips. I love both of them and I am generally grateful that this message is so widely available, what is important is your living experience, understanding how you feel the teacher's energy, transmitting it to the living presence, fruits, energy of the community.
@@wojciechlukasik5495 I agree, what you do with the knowldge you get is whats important. another great Advita teacher i love very much and i would recomand for any seeker is Swami Sarvapriananda, humble and very clear and wise teacher, check him out, peace.
@@wojciechlukasik5495 I agree, what you do with the knowldge you get is whats important. another great Advita teacher i love very much and i would recomand for any seeker is Swami Sarvapriananda, humble very clear and very wise teacher, check him out, peace.
Both are absolutely fucking gorgeous. True men of wisdom.
"Both" Are One, expressed in and as two/many/multiplicity.
By listening to as many awakened teachers as I have in the past 7 years, they are all uniquely different. Same fundamental realization, but consciousness using a different way of expressing to reach different kinds of people.
this entanglement in nonsense is not only irritating but also unnecessary. just talk about your state of mind. ask yourself why? and you are not the only one who wrote Mooji and Rupert under the clip so that someone would click on you. that's not how you become a nonduality youtuber
No it’s not the same “ material”. It’s the same and only consciousness
Mooji is more from the 6:15 hero worshipping patriarchal power chakra and all the mythological nonsense that accompanies that particular stage of consciousness. Mooji will attract more people with uncooked seeds in power. Rupert is what awakening looks like in the later stages of consciousness.
Rupert message only resonate with whom already stand in it.
For everyone els, it would be a clustafuck.
The awakening wasn’t there because you’re not what you would call “ awake” Like someone else who has commented here you’re in your “ mind”. You’re not your mind or your body. There is only consciousness
Rupert helped me clarify some things in the beginning, that's true, but I agree, I also think it's more of an intellectual understanding than from the heart, that's why I don't listen to him as much anymore. But some of his metaphors are valid at least for early stages, i think.
Ego and mind talks about level etc.. The "enlightmen" let it be, the beautiful and different path a human can choose for some time in life ❤
Yesss, in order to awaken first you should listen to 'the invitation' of dear Mooji, but after you recognize what it is, then listening to Rupert also make you progress in order to marinate in the is-ness as Mooji puts it, or if you only want to use it as a tool when you need it the direct path of Rupert also helps.It's like you exercise.
All spiritual teachers are different.Thats the whole point of diversity.They all point to the same thing just using different words .Also you should not believe what they say,you should listen to them and confirm for yourself through experience.They're just supposed to guide us not make a belief system out of it.
I never heard Rupert say or allude to anything that comes close to say he’s a teacher.
Awareness doesn’t speak. Awareness is only aware
For “you”. Tell us who are you?
I don't mind, either way is good.
I saw one of Mooji's audience members go up to him on stage and practically lose themselves physically and emotionally, basically obsessing with him and not the message. He just sat there and let it happen. It did not sit well with me so I stopped listening.
Ego made you stop listening? Doesn’t want you to awaken? Wants to keep control over you? Hmmm
You don't know what is happening in such a moment of meeting God in the very flesh, if that's what you took from it.
I weeped, I was absolutely ecstatic and there was no "him or me" or "them" left when I talked to him in real time.
The 'energy' of a liberated being will cause the one who is 'ready' in that very Now to absolutely melt.
It looked like idol worship to me.
@@wadestrizic8447It is
They both are great messengers and teachers, different styles but the same message of Awareness! . It is definitely not to everyone's temperament. Whatever appeals to one's own heart is what one needs to flow by between two banks of a river. Underneath the message of this river there is no gap and they are one seamless earth that appears as two banks of a river. Enjoy both the sides!
And when you awaken to the level that there are no ‘teacher’ and no ‘others’? Then where does that leave your theory? Every theory that appears to be right now, will become wrong. Rupert HAS abided for many years and decades as Awareness. He has dedicated his life to it. Even as an artist.
Yes, you are right. Rupert goes in through the intellectual door. That’s just the entrance though. I agree people get stuck there. If people JUST want to be free themselves, then they will get stuck in the intellectual transcendence. If they want to raise humanity, they will be taken the distance. Most people just want to free themselves.
People get stuck at many levels, not just the intellectual one. I am a spiritual teacher and I am listening to you and thinking THE SAME thoughts as you are thinking about Rupert’s students. It’s all relative to where we are in the unveiling consciousness movement. You think you know it all and that’s why you switched the camera on. I know better…and my teachers know better than me. Much Onensss xxx
I listen to you and can "understand" your thinking of your believed mind. Where shines stillness in your talking and thinking? Where are you humble and open for the deep teaching? I see a person in you with a pretty big ego.
You are thinking about all of this too much. In addition, you perhaps don't realize it, but you are being very judgmental. Everyone is consciousness itself floating around. Everyone is God/Source/Consciousness/Love/Joy/Awareness/Bliss.
1.24. You have a person that wants to awaken. Does a person awaken?
3.41. I for one made it very clear to myself. Who’s the i and who’s the myself you talk of ?
5.39. After awakening through mooji!! Who awakened??
Ram dass. All spiritual practices are created by illusionists to escape the illusion.
You are still asleep in the illusion.
Stop everything, you’re practicing, your teachers all of it.
yeah and who is writing the comment.. stop this b s
They are genuine questions.
Apologies if it has touched a nerve.
That's an interesting story.
Hehe. Good response 😉🙌
I like them both and it’s good to have different teachers explain things in different ways. I do slightly agree with you though and feel Rupert gives a great intellectual understanding of the nature of reality. His analogies are brilliant too. I have heard Adyashanti say that we need to be careful with non duality teachings though as they are more palpable and make a kind of sense to the mind. It can then be very easy to think ‘I’ve got it’ just from having the intellectual understanding. This is what I sometimes feel from the people listening to Rupert. 🙏❤
i met people in spain from belgium who follow rupert spira for a long time. and it wasnt real advaita. it was definitely only the intellectual understanding. they invited me for dinner. a friend of theirs came to visit me and i said "are you coming to dinner as well" and she said "i am not invited. its only for spirituals like you" and that said everything. btw, they were HARDCORE spira fans.. listen to him all the time. both
All is love
Rupert does not have a sangha following and recording his every move. There is only one real teacher, its right under your nose, or above it.
mooji did not pick that... it just happened
@@oh_jamesTo the contrary, M cultivates worship & has a large number of former women ‘followers’ speaking of his sexuality w them
We’ll then tell us what you’re doing right now
There both TEACHERS of that which can't be taught.....
It seems… seems… like you are making an intellectual argument over which finger pointing at the moon is better. And honestly, the biggest punchline is that you are comparing two teachers when there are not two teachers or any students for that matter. The whole thing is just a play of mind or so it seems. Who knows? Hahahahaha
Be nothing.the most real state is nothing.nothingness of space.dont listen to anyone
Correct
Mooji cultivates idol worship & has a large number of former women ‘followers’ publicly speaking of his sexuality w them.
Anyone with discernment and a computer / UA-cam can clearly see this. Rupert is a clear channel unfettered by small ego IMHO
I understand what you mean, but underneath that is the mind saying love can only happen in some organic indirect sense
It’s already here, everywhere - all of it. Whether the energy that expresses it is direct or not I think matters little vs what is felt. Two expressions in an infinite experiment.
Peace to you brother ☮️💚
Get out of your head
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You accuse Rupert of many things you have no idea about.
It doesn’t make any difference. Why do you even need to pass judgement? Different strokes for different folks. This makes me question your claims tbh. Total waste of energy to be making comparisons. Just do what feels true to you and have faith that others will do the same!
Sorry to disappoint you but a fully awakened man would never ever make childish comperation video like this one regardless to who is "better" Rupert spira or Mooji, so that's the first sign for you that you still have a way to go and much to learn. Mooji lost me because of two main reasons among others, first he claimed that he was appointed by Papaji to be the next guru in the lineage of Sri Ramana Maharshi since he was a disciple of Papaji, this is absolutely not true and there is an interview with Papaji in his last years (it's on youtube) where he saying that he did not find among his disciples even one to whom he could transmit all his teachings and for that reason he never appointed a successor to him or Ramana Maharshi's teachings. the other main reason was that once i entered Mooji's website and there were pictures of his feet for sale.. i was shocked and disgusted and of course couldn't take him seriously after that, now you may say "he is busy being a holly man he does not run his website and does not control it's content" well i see it as a big problem, i believe an awakened man with many followers should and would know and decide what is being published in his name. now i can add a third main reason and it's ego driven disciples like you that feel it's appropriate to post videos like this compering Gurus, seen that from other disciples of Mooji's too, so as i said there is still much to learn.
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@@oh_james Thats your learned reply? OK, wish you all the best.