Feminists React To “Trans Women Are Women”

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  • Опубліковано 11 лис 2024

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  • @DivineWithin
    @DivineWithin Місяць тому +28

    I respect the honesty of these trans. I remember watching ''The Rocky Horror Picture Show'' as a teenager. We all knew its a fetish, but each to their own. But the stomping over women and children's spaces/safety is a definite unhealthy boundary crossing. This video is very reasonable and spot on.

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  11 днів тому

      @@DivineWithin Thank you so much. I appreciate hearing that specific feedback a lot!🖤

  • @hebdenmags
    @hebdenmags Місяць тому +18

    These people are so grounded and honest. Such a contrast to the likes of Dylan Mulvaney , Lily Tino and Blossom. Thank you!!

  • @Jonnie-Falafel
    @Jonnie-Falafel Місяць тому +31

    Fantastic compilation. I could listen to Kathleen Stock all day!

  • @Gingerblaze
    @Gingerblaze Місяць тому +24

    Great work putting this collage together.

  • @annthomas8280
    @annthomas8280 Місяць тому +16

    A great video. Thank you. The situation we're in right now with regard to the erosion of women’s rights is infuriating and, quite frankly, bonkers.

  • @janmichelle5459
    @janmichelle5459 Місяць тому +20

    Im more comfortable living as a woman. Don’t know why, and wish it were not the case. But, I am not fooled. I was born male and I’m a man

    • @HekateSelini
      @HekateSelini Місяць тому +2

      "living as" ist the key phrase, and makes all the difference in the world to the TRA claim "TW *are* women". With the former, we can accomodate where possible and be clear about where it's not, like in women's sports, without there being a drama about 'phobia' when it's just about reality. I respect you for your clear and honest stance.

  • @Gingerblaze
    @Gingerblaze Місяць тому +35

    The role of rearing children was disparaged as if it were less important than earning money. Very big mistake in devaluing the extremely important work, primarily, performed by women, in the pursuit of advancing women's rights rather than to elevate awareness of the importance of this work, and open it to both sexes.

    • @Jonnie-Falafel
      @Jonnie-Falafel Місяць тому +5

      This came into focus with hindsight I think. 'Reactionary feminists' like Mary Harrington & Louise Perry are addressing this forcefully.

    • @akashajones6079
      @akashajones6079 Місяць тому +17

      It's very easy to criticise in hindsight. But that was already the social norm for generations. Pretty much anything women and girls did was deemed less important.
      I don't see any point in criticising women of the past for how they fought for equality. When the way they lived is so very different to how alot of women in first world countries live now.

    • @somni2246
      @somni2246 Місяць тому +2

      ​​@@akashajones6079nah, I don't believe that women-- of the past or present-- are beyond criticism/critique. We're people, afterall, and therefore we can err just like any other person; and I'll critique the actions of certain women-- actions that I feel are wrong-headed and misguided-- in the same way I'd critique the actions of certain men. This is especially true when it comes to actions/activism and ideological assertions which have had an impact on the rest of women and society.

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze Місяць тому +4

      @@akashajones6079 many women in first world countries still are primarily doing the bulk of this work while also working doing very similar low paid work for other families outside of the home.

    • @whdunstew2169
      @whdunstew2169 Місяць тому +5

      Of course, because women do it. Childcare, that is. If men did it, it would be regarded with value and importance. And probably waged. This has the weight of history, custom and tradition behind it. At least we've come a little way from the chattel wife, I suppose.

  • @valbonney2575
    @valbonney2575 Місяць тому +7

    Thank you for this compilation - I know quite a few of the people you feature, and have already seen some of the interviews used, but there are plenty more here for me to have a listen to! 😎 This debate needs to be opened up as widely as possible - many millions of people across the globe are 'supporting' trans rights without fully understanding what they are saying they believe! (I did the same before I knew better - it's a kind of 'virtue signalling', but coming from a genuine place of wanting to be kind and inclusive.) Helen Joyce and Maya Forstater, in particular, highlight the importance of being specific in terms and language used, otherwise people are just fooled into following the common narrative, because they have kind hearts!

  • @pollyparrot9447
    @pollyparrot9447 Місяць тому +10

    That was a terrific compilation - well done! I grew up in Australia in the 1970s so I found the clips from that era interesting. The working class girl believed that 'the man should wear the pants' but the middle class schoolgirls had been given the chance to consider that there might be more choices than just wife and mother. Only one of my friends was a stay at home mum from the time she had her first child, but she had a wealthy father and private income from various inheritances so she wasn't risking anything by putting herself in what for most women is a vulnerable position.

  • @lolfzbf
    @lolfzbf Місяць тому +8

    I can't believe we need to discuss this in the modern era. Of course Trans Woman aren't actual woman. If they were they were they wouldn't be trans

  • @akashajones6079
    @akashajones6079 Місяць тому +9

    Great video. Thanks for putting it together! 👍

  • @panninggazz5244
    @panninggazz5244 Місяць тому +11

    great collage , thank you all

  • @NoelRoots-t1u
    @NoelRoots-t1u Місяць тому +8

    How can a man know what its like to feel like a woman they have never experienced it so they’re just guessing what it feels like , that suggests to me that they actually have no idea so how/ why do they claim that they are woman

  • @TheNesbittExperience
    @TheNesbittExperience Місяць тому +2

    The thumbnail of all these fabulous women brings a smile to my face! Thank you for your excellent work. Looking forward to the next one!

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  Місяць тому +1

      @@TheNesbittExperience Thank you! I’ll be starting it soon!

  • @joen4642
    @joen4642 Місяць тому +6

    Great video ! Thank you ❤

  • @dewilew2137
    @dewilew2137 Місяць тому +8

    Video: “feminists react…”
    Also video: (shows opinions of men, men who pretend to be women, and women who pretend to be men, all of whom have in some way disparaged or denigrated feminism or feminists as a whole.) 🙄

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  Місяць тому +15

      @@dewilew2137
      Video: "feminists react..."
      Also video: (a video structured entirely around an interview with prominent lesbian, gender critical feminist Kathleen Stock, author of “Material Girls: Why Reality Matters for Feminism.” Wherin all of her answers to questions form the thesis of the entire narrative of this video.
      Visually illustrated and highlighted with supporting clips as evidence that include men and trans identifying people as well as other prominent feminists in the same political area to further support the feminist narrative of the video.)
      This video was also made entirely by me. And I’m a woman.
      **A reaction video has to show what feminists are reacting to.

  • @matt4887
    @matt4887 Місяць тому +10

    So it's reinforcing gender stereotypes instead of breaking them down... got it

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  Місяць тому +10

      Trans ideology reinforces gender stereotypes for sure.

    • @TheNesbittExperience
      @TheNesbittExperience Місяць тому +6

      I’ll go one step further and quote Andrew Doyle, “it’s illiberal, regressive and homophobic.” Pride is now an Anti-Gay movement.

  • @reddragonready
    @reddragonready Місяць тому +10

    Great video and side note..damn Germaine was sexy..Always been so impressed with her mind..kinda forgot that

  • @JoonKang
    @JoonKang Місяць тому +5

    Thank you so much!

  • @stfnknbb
    @stfnknbb 25 днів тому +2

    What the hell does it mean to "go through life as women"? What sort of sexist stereotype based bullshit is this?

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  25 днів тому +2

      Oh at 1:05 - the man who identifies as a woman and dresses-up like one. EXACTLY as you say. It’s very regressive of him to think he can go through life as a real woman because he dresses like one. He is now, and always will be a male that looks at himself and the world through the eyes and experience of a male. He will only ever know what it is like to be a man who dresses and acts like he thinks a woman does.

  • @ApacheMagic
    @ApacheMagic Місяць тому +2

    All those people who have trouble defining what is a woman should pretend the question is ‘what is a cis woman’ and try to answer that.

    • @notreal-duh
      @notreal-duh Місяць тому

      but that would give a different answer. the definition of women modern people use includes trans women

    • @HekateSelini
      @HekateSelini Місяць тому +2

      @@notreal-duh the definition of woman that includes transwomen is used by a particular activist group that is trying very hard to sell it as the new norm. However, this definition is not only contested, it is rejected by most of the population - for good reasons. When you say 'modern people' you insinuate that all who are not in agreement with this belief are somehow backwards - which is also typical for this activist group.
      Who, btw, has never asked women (let alone non-academic, non upper/middle-class, non Western, not anglophone... women) if they're ok with having the word that describes the *female* half of humanity just taken and redefined. In other contexts, we call that cultural appropriation.

    • @notreal-duh
      @notreal-duh Місяць тому

      @@HekateSelini trans people being who they are is normal. and you’re correct, i do think you specifically are outdated and backwards in your beliefs.
      you know other cultures have traditionally recognized more than two genders, right? the whole “sex=gender” and “only two sexes” is not a universal ideology at all. india has at least three that they recognize

    • @HekateSelini
      @HekateSelini Місяць тому

      @@notreal-duh or rather, the belief that a few males should get to define what a woman is, and be entitled to take away rights and spaces female human beings depend on for safety and equality in life, is outdated. It's just the same old story of male entitlement over women.
      I do agree with you that sex is *not* the same as gender. One is the material reality of mammalian reproduction, the other social convention, or individual felt identity. I'm all for freedom of gender expression - as many genders as you like! - and that nobody gets discriminated for it. Just not for confusing the two, especially in law and policy.
      Which, btw, the Hijra-community you refer to doesn't do either - they don't claim they literally are women, or deny the existence of the female sex as distinct from the male sex. Neither did other socially recognized third (or more) genders.
      For some things, sex matters, for others it doesn't. Same goes for gender identity. But where which one matters is not congruent. Working this out would require real and respectful conversations instead of the bulldozing that's going on these days...
      which brings us back to the starting point: what do you think - why is there so little interest in the lived reality of women, so little respect for their needs, their language, their hard won gains in safety and equality, by so many of those who claim to want to be women? Why is there so much appropriation instead of communication? So much just taking over instead of creating new spaces, new words, new ideas? And such disregard for the consequences for women and girls all around the world, especially those who are not in privileged positions? That seems pretty strange for a 'human rights movement'...

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  Місяць тому +1

      Oh! Good one actually!

  • @HonestHans4
    @HonestHans4 Місяць тому

    Great compilation!

  • @aresmars2003
    @aresmars2003 Місяць тому

    So many great quotes and clips.
    The key idea for me is to see sex based rights are not symmetric rather in most cases they are protective of girls and women. So I reject “gender identity” as a category that the law can consider, unless a religious limited right as long as it doesn’t conflict with the rights of others.
    My position is we solve the protection issue by restoring taboo against males in female bathrooms, changing rooms, sports, and prisons, and make male spaces explicitly inclusive and TiM, TiF, NB are all welcome there. This basically says human rights are inclusive and protected spaces are allowed as long as there are equal facilities for unprotected groups.
    I know the Left falls on this says “separate but equal” fails in civil rights, but they can’t imagine protections also exist because a protected group needs just protections!
    If trans want protected spaces from men, they are in trouble since any man can identity as trans and invade their self-ID spaces!
    But female is a legally defendable category, just a tiny number of DSD conditions like CAIS and Swyer syndrome exist where xy “males” can’t or don’t masculinize. And they’ll be seen and socialized as female from birth, and may never know they are anything but infertile women.

  • @nicoleevans4722
    @nicoleevans4722 Місяць тому

    Great compilation, thank you.

  • @petretepner8027
    @petretepner8027 Місяць тому +2

    I was overexposed to (real or artificial, I'm not sure, certainly doctor-prescribed) oestrogen in the womb. As a result, I was born with partially feminized genitalia (corrected by surgery), and later, in puberty, developed certain female-seeming characteristics (yes, we're talking tits here, also wide hips and narrow shoulders). Did I ever imagine what it might be like to actually be a woman? Yes, of course I did, but I would like to think that any human being (whatever their physical configuration) with more than a very rudimentary sense of imagination could envisage being the opposite sex.
    As an adolescent in an all-boys' school, it gave me a comforting sense of superiority (and, counterfactually I suppose, of power) to imagine that I was actually a girl, passing undetected among them. But the words I insist on here are “imagine” and “imagination”.
    Did I ever entertain the idea that I “really was” a woman? Certainly not, I'm just a man with an unusual body. (It bothers me a little that my right breast now hangs much lower than my left, but I suspect that is simply the result of a lifetime's desk job and bad posture.)
    P.S. Just to pre-empt any possible comments, my hormonal peculiarities have nothing whatsoever to do with “intersex”, which refers to a number of quite different conditions.

  • @ajbubbles67
    @ajbubbles67 Місяць тому +2

    Great video.

  • @RebeccaGogovcev
    @RebeccaGogovcev Місяць тому +5

    David Bowie, Prince, Boy George, Elton John. Nobody cared how they dressed. Still men.

    • @onehotgossip
      @onehotgossip Місяць тому +1

      Allegedly their all female to male.(all inverts) male and female skeleton skeleton never lie... its a big club and joe bloggs not included.... nor the throat. We're being gaslight.

  • @LetteringTheLord
    @LetteringTheLord 26 днів тому +1

    Trans is not no no no.. being a woman is not based on feelings .. its playing dress up. Why not just be who God made you to be. But don't change or pretend we can change who we are born as..

  • @RebeccaGogovcev
    @RebeccaGogovcev Місяць тому +2

    Why is there no discussion about what a man is?

    • @miriamlana833
      @miriamlana833 Місяць тому +1

      Because there are no trans exclusionary radical masculists who want to exclude trans men from anything.

  • @catherinecastle8576
    @catherinecastle8576 Місяць тому

    EVE SPEAKS
    I speak not merely as a woman. Nor do I speak as to a mere man.
    I speak as God’s Eve Woman. I speak to God’s Adam Man.
    Man, whence came you? What purpose? What plan?
    What duty was placed in your care, Man?
    What turned you that you bolted and ran?
    From the Garden. From the Promised Land.
    Look around, Man. Look at Eve Woman.
    Where did she come from? Out of Man.
    Man in union with Woman: God’s plan.
    Back to the Garden. Back to the Land.
    Adam and Eve: the work of God’s hand.
    Fruit producing seed: splendid man!
    Seed bearing fruit: glorious woman!
    God would that mortals obey His Plan.
    I speak as God’s Eve Woman.
    I speak to God’s Adam Man.

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  11 днів тому

      I didn’t quite understand your post, so I thought it would be fun to put it into Chat gpt and ask it what it thought you meant by it and I got this interesting reply! Did it get it right?
      “This piece appears to emphasize traditional gender roles and biblical themes. The speaker identifies as "Eve," representing femininity, while addressing "Adam," symbolizing masculinity. The language suggests a divine purpose and a call for men to recognize their responsibilities, perhaps implying a critique of contemporary gender dynamics.
      It reinforces the idea that men and women have distinct roles, rooted in a religious framework, promoting a return to traditional values. The repetition of the names "Eve" and "Adam" signifies a longing for a return to original creation and harmony as defined in the biblical narrative. Overall, it seems to advocate for a more defined understanding of gender based on these theological principles.”

    • @catherinecastle8576
      @catherinecastle8576 11 днів тому +1

      @SexRealityBites Yes, very much so! And, the truths of God (as I understand them) as revealed in this poem are to also reflect the equality of the man and the women who are different, yes, in their specific roles and purposes in life, not the same, yet, both are beloved by God, equally. AND as "one flesh" (biblical marriage) through a lifetime commitment (and the addition of offspring), they are more perfectly able to understand and model the Godhead.
      I truly believe that if you have parents, you are heterosexual, you have a spouse, and children, you can learn about God, life, humankind, and yourself, better than the average single person, as if heterosexual marriage almost bumps a soul up a notch. BUT, it's also true, no married man or woman can as easily or more perfectly "turn on a dime" and serve Jesus as can a single person. There are both blessings and challenges on each path... so it is best to let God guide us in this regard.
      I'm kind of old... what's Chat gpt?

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  11 днів тому

      @ You can access it for free on the website (link below). You can type and question you have into the search bar. You can also have conversations with it and/or ask it to write you stories, spell check your work, or do what I did and copy and paste something someone said in to it, and ask it to say it in a different way. You can even ask it to explain things like it is explaining it to a child! It’s very cool!
      chatgpt.com
      Lots of people don’t know that much about it yet, even younger folks. 🖤

  • @melissabirch459
    @melissabirch459 Місяць тому +1

    I'm 74 and have been a feminist since the early 1970s. These women certainly don't represent me, especially Kathleen Stock

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  Місяць тому +7

      This is just my first video, featuring these five feminists but there are definitely more varied feminist thinkers out there. I hope to make different compilations with different perspectives moving forward. Also depends on who has good interviews on UA-cam already that I can clip.

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze Місяць тому +6

      @melissabirch459 what is it that Kathleen says that does not represent you as a feminist?

    • @melissabirch459
      @melissabirch459 Місяць тому

      @@Gingerblaze spreading hate. I was married to a gay man who tried to rip me off. I condemn him not because he is gay. To lump all groups of people together in a negative way is extremely dangerous and prejudicial. I’ve had trans bi intersex gay and lesbian friends and would never think of negatively stereotyping them. She (Stock) is extremely divisive and certainly doesn’t represent me

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  Місяць тому +18

      @@melissabirch459 hey wait a minute- did you watch this whole thing? Or read her book? I mean that sincerely. I specifically clipped this portion of Kathleen’s interview, because it echoes many of her other ones when she says in a couple different ways that she is very supportive of the gay and lesbian community. She is a lesbian. And that she has no issue WHATSOEVER with the PERSONAL choices of transgender adults. That they exist and she fully supports them and their human rights. She simply believes in the feminist values of protecting women and children from predatory males no matter how they identify from a very small select number of female-only spaces where they are in states of vulnerability or undress and they don’t consent to biological males sharing that space with them. 5:58 I don’t post hateful voices on my account. 8:35 she says there should be laws that PROTECT trans individuals. I haven’t heard a hateful thing from Kathleen Stock yet.

    • @valbonney2575
      @valbonney2575 Місяць тому +9

      @@melissabirch459 You either haven't watched the whole video, or you have watched it with some pre-conceived notions about "these women" preventing you from properly hearing what they are saying. None of the things you have accused them of is actually portrayed in this video at all!

  • @zappafurious
    @zappafurious Місяць тому +1

    What if instead of using identity we use transsexuality status to determine who is trans or not?

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  Місяць тому +1

      This opinion is what trans man Marcus Dib shares with you. He expresses it well in his portion of the video. 10:53

    • @zappafurious
      @zappafurious Місяць тому

      @@SexRealityBites what is y’all’s opinion on him?

    • @SexRealityBites
      @SexRealityBites  Місяць тому +5

      @@zappafurious Marcus has really interesting videos from a really unique and important perspective.

    • @valbonney2575
      @valbonney2575 Місяць тому +4

      @@zappafurious What exactly do you mean by "transsexuality status", though? I think it's really important to be specific, especially in these times, because words - their meaning, intention, interpretation and understanding of them - are powerful and can be used in ways they were not intended. "Transsexuality status", for example, could mean how far a person is into their transition (socially, medicalised, post-op, etc), or it could mean legally (some transsexuals have had their official papers changed to reflect their changed 'identity' - even birth certificates! Seriously!!!).
      And even if there was a way to "determine who is trans or not", that still wouldn't address the issue of whether or not they (trans women - ie. biological males) should be allowed (legally) into female spaces, sports, refuges, etc. (They shouldn't!)

    • @zappafurious
      @zappafurious Місяць тому

      @@valbonney2575 To the point where you couldn't differentiate the transsexual from someone of the cissexual version of their identified sex(if not looking at reproductive system)