Thank you for this video - especially for mentioning 8 1/2, because I’d completely forgotten this fragment and now marvelled at how Fellini juxtaposed Wagner’s aggressive music and very peaceful and hilarious scenes with people drinking, enjoying life and putting themselves into embarrassing situations. Btw, this is not the only Wagner music used in cinema and TV. Chris Carter’s show, Millennium, uses Wagner’s Parsifal (Vorspiel) in its episode Owls (season 2): one of the characters, Old Man (who is the show’s Master Good Guy, listens to the opera (and even complains it’s too long), and later his funeral is accompanied by the same Vorspiel from Parsifal.
Thank you for your comment and apologies for my late reply! Yeah, Wagner, Verdi, Puccini - they would make great money from royalties for their music used in movies, tv shows and especially in ads... 🤷♂️
By the way - I love brooklyn 99 too - what was the question? Happy Easter Peter and thanks so much for your great videos! I've missed it the last few weeks
I love the Ride of the Valkyries. Another parallell between the helicopters and the valkyries: they gallop through the air. I also would say that at least in „Apocalypse Now“ there is a satirical (the cynical, not the funny kind) element to the use of the soundtrack: even though the music sounds heroic and noble, there is nothing heroic about the action shown on screen. I don‘t think anyonein their right mind would deem the bombing of civilians a heroic act. About the scenes where the movie uses diegetic music for Walkürenritt it‘s supposed to highlight the contrast between the characters perception of their actions and the reality of them. Ironically Rango plays it more straight than the movies who take themselves much more seriously. The other moment where the music is actually supposed to enhance and complement the action is birth of nation. The quote is from A few good men of course screamed by Col. Nathan Jessup. Have a great week and I am so incredibly glad you are back. Congratulations on your successful production.
I am the one glad to be back because now I am getting your amazing comments again. Love how you pointed out the discrepancy in Apocalypse Now between the "noble" music and the vile acts committed to its soundtrack 🙏 And: belated happy Easter!
I first heard this music in a children's TV show called "The Magic Boomerang" during the 1960s. Fellini's use actually works, which took me by surprise. And I think you're asking about "A Few Good Men"?
"The Magic Boomerang" must have been a pretty impressive show for that you are remembering it even 50 something years later! Or you simply have an amazing brain? 🤔 Anyway: Yes, it was "A Few Brave Men" 😄👏
@@peterpawlik2495 It was an Australian show. It was alright, I didn't see it that often but the music impressed me. The boomerang stopped time while it was in flight, I think.
Interestingly, several macho soldiers play the music of divine women who seek out dead soldiers who will become Odin's warriors and, often, their lovers. Well, in fact, this music is simply fantastic. I would use it for my wedding. ceremony.
Thank you for your comments. And kudos to your brave choice of music for your wedding ceremony. It's a great piece of music but I still would recommend checking with your fiancee if she or he shares your passion for this specific piece for a wedding 😄
There’s a quite funny use of it “Hey, Arnold!” TV animated series: ua-cam.com/video/Gd9q7DYI6Ik/v-deo.htmlsi=p9EXg4Cits9q-v6d And I can also remember that Hank is humming the tune the very first episode of the “Breaking Bad” TV series (1:15): ua-cam.com/video/ptx8eRrxjfA/v-deo.htmlsi=nDI-s1RfExCo-UhU
Oh heck! I found this topic rather difficult. I hate war and all it stands for and I avoid war films like the plague and I simply haven't heard of the rest of the films you featured. I am not sure what Wagner would have made of his Ride of the Valkyries being used as an accompaniment to rather threatening killing machines, flying helicopters or great swarms of birds but I suspect he might have liked the feeling of such power and control. I do not know very much about Wagner but think he was a very strange man - everyone knows about his distasteful antisemitic views. I just wonder what else was lurking in his mind if he was so intolerant, perhaps a delusion of superiority? I think he got into severe financial difficulties didn’t he? It is my understanding that he ended up with a rather sad existence due to his forceful opinions. However, I think his music is wonderful. How could such a disturbed man end up by writing the glorious Parsifal? Do you think he had a troubled mind and some sort of spiritual awakening? The Valkyries were flying creatures used to visiting battle fields or conflict in order to assist or rescue the mythological heroes of Wagner's creation weren't they? So it's not so strange, and rather brilliant, for a director to use their iconic theme in a modern take of perceived heroes flying into battle, only perversely these "heroes" perpetrated great evil. In the cult and comedy films you shared the music was used as a great mickey-take, which I am all in favour of! I found this topic a little bit macho! Therefore I better leave it to you few good men to hammer out between you! 😂
I share your aversion to war movies. And to showing brutality in general. When I was much younger I didn't care, I was all like "it's just a movie". But the older I get the more disturbed I become. And since I for example refused to participate in the mandatory military service in Germany at that time I am for sure not the macho you mentioned at the end of your comment 😄 About Wagner and his character/music: I am sure that many of those artists whose work we adore are not the nice and decent human beings we are hoping for them to be. It might even be (with exceptions, of course) a kind of prerequisite to be "different" in order to be able to create art out of thin air. At least that's what I as an average person am assuming... 🤷♂️
Griffith...I haven't listened to operas yet, Fellini...I haven't listened to operas yet, Coppola...unforgettable even though I haven't yet listened to operas, all the other movies...I don't watch movies anymore, now I listen to operas (and I'm not sorry🙂). Coppola undoubtedly popularized Wagner and "Ride of the Valkyries" among the widest audience (although not the entire opera, let alone the cycle 🙁). When I watch a staged opera, I'm always a bit disappointed by this scene even when there are live horses on stage (unless it's the Met Machine). I think this is the consequence of Coppola's version🤔. What would Wagner have done if there had been a film in his time? He would probably end up in Hollywood composing film scores, maybe writing screenplays, and maybe even directing😂. And he would not have had time to write his monumental operas😭.
P.S. Congratulations on a successful teaching in the real world, but we also learn something from you in the virtual world.
Thank you for your nice comment! I think your are on to something: Wagner totally would have written film music 😄 And he would have been great at it, too 💯
Welp, this marks the very first UA-cam series which I’ve made a habit of watching with my wife. Come to think of it, it marks a full circle of our 40+ years together since when we met, opera was one of the few interests we shared. (Aside from children and grandchildren, I’m pleased to say we’ve developed a few other common interests over the years.) Jay
@@diecheneydie Thank you for this nice comment - I am delighted to hear that you and your wife (and congratulations on a 40+ years happy marriage 🥳) are enjoying the content 😊
Thank you for this video - especially for mentioning 8 1/2, because I’d completely forgotten this fragment and now marvelled at how Fellini juxtaposed Wagner’s aggressive music and very peaceful and hilarious scenes with people drinking, enjoying life and putting themselves into embarrassing situations.
Btw, this is not the only Wagner music used in cinema and TV. Chris Carter’s show, Millennium, uses Wagner’s Parsifal (Vorspiel) in its episode Owls (season 2): one of the characters, Old Man (who is the show’s Master Good Guy, listens to the opera (and even complains it’s too long), and later his funeral is accompanied by the same Vorspiel from Parsifal.
Thank you for your comment and apologies for my late reply! Yeah, Wagner, Verdi, Puccini - they would make great money from royalties for their music used in movies, tv shows and especially in ads... 🤷♂️
Great video. Coppola created a prefect, iconic fusion of sound and image.
Thank you 😊
By the way - I love brooklyn 99 too - what was the question? Happy Easter Peter and thanks so much for your great videos! I've missed it the last few weeks
Brooklyn 99 all the way - thank you and happy Easter to you too 🐇
I love the Ride of the Valkyries. Another parallell between the helicopters and the valkyries: they gallop through the air. I also would say that at least in „Apocalypse Now“ there is a satirical (the cynical, not the funny kind) element to the use of the soundtrack: even though the music sounds heroic and noble, there is nothing heroic about the action shown on screen. I don‘t think anyonein their right mind would deem the bombing of civilians a heroic act. About the scenes where the movie uses diegetic music for Walkürenritt it‘s supposed to highlight the contrast between the characters perception of their actions and the reality of them. Ironically Rango plays it more straight than the movies who take themselves much more seriously.
The other moment where the music is actually supposed to enhance and complement the action is birth of nation.
The quote is from A few good men of course screamed by Col. Nathan Jessup.
Have a great week and I am so incredibly glad you are back. Congratulations on your successful production.
I am the one glad to be back because now I am getting your amazing comments again. Love how you pointed out the discrepancy in Apocalypse Now between the "noble" music and the vile acts committed to its soundtrack 🙏 And: belated happy Easter!
The quote is from a 'A Few Good Men', of course. :-)
Obviuosly you know your movies 👍👍👍 How about: "Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn."? Which movie? 😄
I first heard this music in a children's TV show called "The Magic Boomerang" during the 1960s. Fellini's use actually works, which took me by surprise. And I think you're asking about "A Few Good Men"?
"The Magic Boomerang" must have been a pretty impressive show for that you are remembering it even 50 something years later! Or you simply have an amazing brain? 🤔 Anyway: Yes, it was "A Few Brave Men" 😄👏
@@peterpawlik2495 It was an Australian show. It was alright, I didn't see it that often but the music impressed me. The boomerang stopped time while it was in flight, I think.
Interestingly, several macho soldiers play the music of divine women who seek out dead soldiers who will become Odin's warriors and, often, their lovers. Well, in fact, this music is simply fantastic. I would use it for my wedding. ceremony.
Thank you for your comments. And kudos to your brave choice of music for your wedding ceremony. It's a great piece of music but I still would recommend checking with your fiancee if she or he shares your passion for this specific piece for a wedding 😄
@@peterpawlik2495 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There’s a quite funny use of it “Hey, Arnold!” TV animated series: ua-cam.com/video/Gd9q7DYI6Ik/v-deo.htmlsi=p9EXg4Cits9q-v6d
And I can also remember that Hank is humming the tune the very first episode of the “Breaking Bad” TV series (1:15): ua-cam.com/video/ptx8eRrxjfA/v-deo.htmlsi=nDI-s1RfExCo-UhU
Thank you for your comment. And especially thanks for your tipp about Breaking Bad: love the show and will definitely check it out 😄
Oh heck! I found this topic rather difficult. I hate war and all it stands for and I avoid war films like the plague and I simply haven't heard of the rest of the films you featured.
I am not sure what Wagner would have made of his Ride of the Valkyries being used as an accompaniment to rather threatening killing machines, flying helicopters or great swarms of birds but I suspect he might have liked the feeling of such power and control.
I do not know very much about Wagner but think he was a very strange man - everyone knows about his distasteful antisemitic views. I just wonder what else was lurking in his mind if he was so intolerant, perhaps a delusion of superiority? I think he got into severe financial difficulties didn’t he? It is my understanding that he ended up with a rather sad existence due to his forceful opinions. However, I think his music is wonderful. How could such a disturbed man end up by writing the glorious Parsifal? Do you think he had a troubled mind and some sort of spiritual awakening?
The Valkyries were flying creatures used to visiting battle fields or conflict in order to assist or rescue the mythological heroes of Wagner's creation weren't they? So it's not so strange, and rather brilliant, for a director to use their iconic theme in a modern take of perceived heroes flying into battle, only perversely these "heroes" perpetrated great evil.
In the cult and comedy films you shared the music was used as a great mickey-take, which I am all in favour of!
I found this topic a little bit macho! Therefore I better leave it to you few good men to hammer out between you! 😂
I share your aversion to war movies. And to showing brutality in general. When I was much younger I didn't care, I was all like "it's just a movie". But the older I get the more disturbed I become. And since I for example refused to participate in the mandatory military service in Germany at that time I am for sure not the macho you mentioned at the end of your comment 😄
About Wagner and his character/music: I am sure that many of those artists whose work we adore are not the nice and decent human beings we are hoping for them to be. It might even be (with exceptions, of course) a kind of prerequisite to be "different" in order to be able to create art out of thin air. At least that's what I as an average person am assuming... 🤷♂️
Griffith...I haven't listened to operas yet, Fellini...I haven't listened to operas yet, Coppola...unforgettable even though I haven't yet listened to operas, all the other movies...I don't watch movies anymore, now I listen to operas (and I'm not sorry🙂). Coppola undoubtedly popularized Wagner and "Ride of the Valkyries" among the widest audience (although not the entire opera, let alone the cycle 🙁).
When I watch a staged opera, I'm always a bit disappointed by this scene even when there are live horses on stage (unless it's the Met Machine). I think this is the consequence of Coppola's version🤔.
What would Wagner have done if there had been a film in his time? He would probably end up in Hollywood composing film scores, maybe writing screenplays, and maybe even directing😂. And he would not have had time to write his monumental operas😭.
P.S. Congratulations on a successful teaching in the real world, but we also learn something from you in the virtual world.
Thank you for your nice comment! I think your are on to something: Wagner totally would have written film music 😄 And he would have been great at it, too 💯
Welp, this marks the very first UA-cam series which I’ve made a habit of watching with my wife.
Come to think of it, it marks a full circle of our 40+ years together since when we met, opera was one of the few interests we shared. (Aside from children and grandchildren, I’m pleased to say we’ve developed a few other common interests over the years.)
Jay
@@diecheneydie Thank you for this nice comment - I am delighted to hear that you and your wife (and congratulations on a 40+ years happy marriage 🥳) are enjoying the content 😊