CYBERPOWER 650VA UPS Truth and Lies
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- Опубліковано 1 гру 2024
- My old Cyberpower failed during an outage, so we got the 650VA rated at 360 watts with 315 minutes of runtime*. Let's learn what the asterisk really means and what we decided to do with our old UPS.
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In May 2020 I upgraded to the Cyberpower CST 1500S with real sine wave output. Learn why a real sine wave is essential for today's electronics. Check it out at ua-cam.com/video/XveVObW70K4/v-deo.html
just bought one and this explains a lot more than the small piece of paper it comes with
Glad to hear you find this video and it helped. Thanks for watching and writing.
UPS is for dirty power protection, overcome short power outages where the hydro company is able to overcome by doing some rerouting on the grid, and to shut down gracefully if the power stays out for say 1 minute.
Actually it is amazing how stable it is considering any person can plug anything into it at any time.
Will it clean generator power
@@RonAskey I have not seen any PC fail during short outages, so the power supplies can make due with it just fine.
The only time it fails is when the battery went bad.
New units have circuit boards and components that emit a slight burnt smell before you ever plug this in. As a technician I have run across many devices that may smell this way even when brand new and never powered up but be safe and normal for years. I find mine is very efficient, the booklet describes the high efficiency battery charger circuit that wastes very little power on standby. When I plugged in mine for the initial charge the case only had one barely warm spot after several hours, no warmer than human skin.
Thank you for sharing your expertise. I agree these units run cool, although the battery run times on the packaging can be very misleading. Still I would recommend this type of device for protecting home electronics.
You can pimp these small UPS's by just getting a larger battery that won't fit in the case. Same cost for one with 3 times the capacity and an extension on the battery cables. Don't try this to enable use of larger appliances, but to extend service during outages with the recommended small loads. The software will not calibrate to the larger battery but you don't even need that geek stuff. Mine backs up my deluxe chair with 5 motors so I won't get stuck fully reclined, one LED table lamp and one laptop.
Probably a lot cheaper solution then buying a higher capacity unit. I can see where in some situations your solution is worth trying. Thanks for sharing how you use it.
Very cool do you know of any how-to videos for upgrading the 650 ? If it's just a simple upgrade the battery deal can you tell me which battery I should go with ?
@@markglenn24 Any larger battery of the exact same chemistry type, typically sealed AGM lead acid gel cells, will have the exact same fully charged float voltage for standby and your UPS won't know the difference. It has one charge rate only so the big boy will charge slower but retain that longer reserve service if an extended outage happens. The added price for 3 or 4 times as much amp hours capacity is barely double the cost of the original battery and the bigger ones usually have a longer service life.
@@popeyegordon I'm not really knowledgeable about charging float voltages and wouldn't want to buy the wrong battery could you please point me in the right direction maybe something you already know is working with the SX650U ?
@@markglenn24 1) remove the battery 2) figure out exactly what it is by reading the markings 3) buy a larger capacity version 4) extend the wires longer so they reach the bigger battery outside of the UPS case, assuming you can't make the existing wires reach. Wires have to be soldered or joined by crimp connectors, don't even think about just twisting them together.
Mine is constantly making this high pitched sound that I can hear from across my room
Only time there is a sound is during charging and discharging otherwise it should be silent. If still in warranty I'd called tech support.
You can easily mute it in pretty sure. Yes, the alarm can be really annoying at night.
The surge protector for my gaming PC is the main reason for mine.
And enough power to save your game before lights out.
yo man thank you, !! haha . I was like "what the heck is going on here when I opened this and turned it on. You're the man! Really appreciate this vid
Thank you for the kind words, happy to hear the video was useful.
I always have one on my cable, internet, wifi box. I hate when the power blinks and it take 2 to 5 mints to reset everything. All you need iS a basic 1 mint battery backup for a power blink. Nooo need for 15 to 20 mints. Usually if the power goes out its for 30mints to a few hours. Its sooo nice to avoid A LONG cable box reset.
Gregory you are quite right, although you should make sure that the unit outputs a full sine wave to prevent damaging today's sensitive electronics. And in the case of the Samsung TV, a UPS will keep it from switching on during a brief outages. Thank you for sharing!
@@cfldriven I do have a new samsung 65 TV I bought last month. I hope it will be ok
@@gregorymcgraw5940 I now use CST1500 which provides full sine wave. It a bit more but worth it to me. Here is my unbox and run time test. ua-cam.com/video/XveVObW70K4/v-deo.html
@Gooby123 I would say 30 mints! If your lucky
Mine keeps switching from eco to battery mode for no reason. I have a smart TV plugged in, a pc, a modem and two phone chargers. Worked fine for about three months, now it's doing this madness
In the Powerpanel do you see any items listed under Event Logs or Summary? BTW the Event Logs default to the current day so you have to give it a FROM date that earlier than today. If nothing listed then it could be a problem with unit, and I would reach out to their tech support.
Dirty power. These things have a auto transformer in them and they are programmed to switch to battery power during brownouts loss of power and over voltage/surge. usually they will switch to battery power if the voltage drops below 115 volts or goes over 127 volts.
thanks a lot bro, I was going to buy it to power my laptop for hours as a battery storage, now i'll reconsider
To power your pc for hours you'll need a very large unit (or a very tiny pc). Wish the packaging just simply stated they will only work for minutes.
Does the green light mean it's fully charged?
The light next to the power button just lets you know that it is on with shore power or running off battery. To see battery status use the Powerpanel software.
Do you recommend buying for a ps5 and a 65-inch screen?
I actually will be moving my CYBERPOWER CST1500S UPS ua-cam.com/video/XveVObW70K4/v-deo.html which is currently on my workstation to my entertainment center. It will replace the Cyberpower 650VA. While a surge protector strip should be good enough for your PS5 and tv screen, I like being able to run the router/wifi when we lose power and properly shut down what is is on. So if you want to be able to save your game when the lights go out, than something like the 650 should give you enough time to save and exit. Make sure it has full sine wave output and not simulated sine wave. Full is best for your electronic devices. If you are looking to complete the game the you may want to setup to something like 1500, which is full sine wave output.
Can this be used for camping?
Good question, this is not really it's intended purpose. And while you could plug in your phone and other devices into it, you'll probably be disappointed with the runtime performance. Might be better off getting power pack designed for that purpose.
Just got the same unit...it's noy turning ON...after pressing the power button it beeps and lights up but just turns off the light immediately after....help!!!
A silly question, was the unit plugged in? It needs to charge up the batteries before the inverter can supply power. Once it is charge try turning it on, if it fails then the unit is defective.
@@cfldriven oh im sorry...yes...and yes i charged it for 8 hours...then it's not turning on..so i guess this is defective 😔
@@kaikaisvlog2755 That's a bummer, I have never had a bad unit from the get go, although I did have one fail prematurely but it was replaced under warranty. Good luck.
@@cfldriven oh ic..thank you!!!
Does it work for the ps5 and tv?
For electronics like TV and PS5 I would get a UPS with full sine wave output. Perhaps something like the CyberPower CST1500S UPS Sine Wave Battery Backup ua-cam.com/video/M_w1HyVloM4/v-deo.html
Great and easy overview!
Thanks for watching and taking the time to provide feedback.
Thanks for this video. One question: is it best to turn off the UPS when you are not using the devices connected to it?
While it is designed be on, you can certainly turn it off if you wish. Ours are always on, even if the devices are off.
Thank you for this video.
Great video! That 315 minutes runtime is a bait and switch. I bought this for the frequent power outages we have in Puerto Rico. Charged it for 3 months, now the power is out, I plugged my laptop in, it lasted maybe 2 minutes. I can't have a generator in my condo, I was really looking for something to give me a couple hours on my laptop and phone. This is the 2nd time I wasted over $50 on a battery system thinking I understood from the box but I keep being fooled. Most external type batteries (power supplies for phones etc) won't ship to Puerto Rico. Any suggestions for a unit that will run a few items for a couple hours for me?
None of these ups will really work for you for hours of runtime, they are meant to safely power down and to protect from surges. I have a Vector ua-cam.com/video/V-bi-2hm-a0/v-deo.html which can run my 22 cu ft refrig for over 6 hours. Plus it will charge your devices. It is not cheap but I have found it to be reliable and it holds a charge for many months. The only downside is this device is used after the power goes out as you can't leave it plugged like a ups and expect it to take over during the outage. The restriction on the shipping of goods to PR is a pure crime the US gov has failed to correct.
If it has a 12 volt battery you could connect a car battery to it and get as long as you want..
@@red_diaper_doper_baby Just remember leaving the interior light would drain the car 12v, so don't expect to get much when connected to something that draws more power.
Does the UPS load mean how many watts of power are plugged into the unit?
Yes it is the total number of watts drawn by all attached devices. Ideally your UPS load capacity exceeds your system load by a fair amount. The greater capacity the longer the battery run time when AC power goes out.
Thank you
Hello I bought an SX550G - the box says 315 minutes 550VA 330 watts. I'm using it to keep my Modem WiFi Router and a single indoor Ring camera. Used it while i was gone for 2 weeks, no problems.
So recently I've noticed it randomly gives out a single high pitched Beep, like a "peep" sound every hour or so. Tried reaching to Cyberpower, the guy I had said never heard of that, then he tells me how to burn my house down, oh sorry he tells me how to disable the alarm, (Same difference to me). I tell him its a commonly Googled question.
Anyway any thoughts?
Are there any events listed in the PowerPanel software?
So do I leave the power OFF when charging the battery or does it charge when the power is ON?
The unit starts to recharge the battery pack upon being plugged in and if in the ON position is able to apply voltage correction and power to your device(s).
@@cfldriven Awesome. Thank you.
Just wondering why it does not show any light while charging!? Don't know if it's working? I just buight it , any Idea ? maybe it's only my UPS ?
The only comes on when you turn on the unit.
@@cfldriven oh ok but how do I know it's charging ? Light is solid yellow not changing at all , not even blinking while charging !
@@emmontana2422 There is no charging indicator light. If the light is always on even with the unit is powered off but still plugged in than that might be an indication of a bad ground, missing ground, or reversed wiring. If you install the software it will tell you the status of the unit and if it has charged. You could also just unplug and see it the ups powers a lamp.
Mine has a constant beep light flashes red and green
A constant beep could be indication of overload. Best to check manual or contact Cyberpower at (877) 297-6937; or submit a web ticket online at cyberpowersystems.com/support.
so after this how to install a software tutorial.... what is true?
You'll never get 315 minutes of runtime unless you are running a small led flashlight, depending on load 5 to 15 minutes is realistic.
After setting up the UPS in software (i.e. disabling the beeping noises and setting cutoff voltages), will the UPS memorize those settings so I can disconnect it from my computer?
No. It is all in the software. At least on the older models. On the new ones I am not quite sure.
Very helpful, thank you!
And thank you for watching!
Thank you for this information I did not know it could do all that😁👍
Happy to share. Thanks for watching.
I just bought it and will return it.after two days, on the Cyber Panel says 126 min run time when nothing is plugged. Once I plug the router, it goes back down to more or less 50 min. It’s or the battery that been too long on the shelf and got calcified or it’s the software the problem or maybe the 315 min is BS
Yeah the 315 minutes not based on any reality I know. Everyone's number will be lower as you plug in devices, which if you look at the small battery in the unit makes sense, just wish they wouldn't make such high number claims. I now have a CP1500 rated for 900 watts and PowerPanel claims 68 minutes but in this video ua-cam.com/video/XveVObW70K4/v-deo.html you see it doesn't get that far. According to latest spec from Cyberpower Runtime at Full Load is 2.5 min, while Runtime at Half Load is 10 min.
@@cfldriven last night I decide to check if it was the software that gave a wrong reading. I unplugged the USP and time it with just my router. It started to double beep at around 40 minutes. Ten minutes later, that was it. No more juice. I put it back in the box and will return it. Man, it had a 24 hours charge. I will not make and exchange that is for sure. I know that companies exaggerate but come on. From a supposed 315 min for a router to a 60 min? It’s 5.25 less time.
@@chauffeurmarco Whith any real load on them, these consumer units don't run for long. And commercial units are super expensive. I use mine to give me enough run time to safely shut down and maybe have enough power to recharge my phone later.
@@cfldriven in this case, it’s fine. Me, I wanted something that get me to play or watch on my mobile while I’m in the dark. Need only the router to be plugged in. But this one can give me more than an hour.
@@chauffeurmarco Just know that even if nothing is plugged in it will continue to discharge during a power outage. So if you don't need to run the router 'til later, shut down the UPS until needed.
Bought to use with my cpap. I tested it today and this 650va model gave me an hour and 5 minutes after disconnecting it from the wall. I was also charging my phone with it at the time. I guess maybe an hour and a half if not charging the phone. The problem is it beeps the entire damn time. If I connect a laptop or something to it and turn off the sound, will it stay off even after I disconnect the laptop? I don't have a laptop and would need to borrow one.
I found this, " If you would like audible alarms to be disabled permanently, press and hold the Alarm Silence button for 15 seconds. The unit will beep, once confirming that the audible alarms have been disabled." Let us know if this solution works for your UPS.
@@cfldriven no but thanks. It doesn't have an alarm silence button
@@ItIsNot1984 I don't think there is a permanent off for the alarm using the laptop, this is what I found in the manual.
"Alarm setting: The audible alarm can be turned OFF or ON by quickly pressing the POWER button twice. The default setting is for the Alarm On. To turn the Alarm Off, quickly press the power button twice. You will hear two short beeps when the Alarm is turned off. To turn the Alarm back ON, quickly press the power button twice. You will hear a single short beep when the Alarm is turned on. *When the Alarm is turned off, there will be no audible notification when the UPS reaches a low battery state."
@@cfldriven thinking about it maybe it's best the alarm goes off and wakes me. At that point I can turn off the humidity on my CPAP and probably get a full night on it since it won't be heating water.
@@ItIsNot1984 I agree with you, I would want to hear that alarm, at which point pressing the power button twice will silent it. Just fyi this unit not recommended for medical devices.
Mine does this one long beep whenever I use it to run more CPU and GPU intensive sofware. I have a 650va one plugged into a high power gaming pc, could it be I need a 1000va or 1500va one to fix my problem?
I am using a 1500va/900 Watt on my editing workstation. Your 650va will handle 375 Watts. When choosing a UPS, it is generally recommended you chose one with an output watt capacity 20-25% higher than the total wattage of the devices you want to connect.
Hope this helps.
How is this u all my apc went out so I need something asap
If you haven't bought it yet, depending on your needs you may also want to consider ua-cam.com/video/XveVObW70K4/v-deo.html
I bought 2 of these and they smell like its burning plasic and i barely plugged it in also does is it normal for the battery to shake on the 650 va one?
Is positive connected to positive and neg to neg? There should not be any smell of burning plastic. Could be electrics in power supply.
Yes the battery fits loosely in the case, so it may rattle when moving the power supply.
@@cfldriven Maybe it got damage cause the 2 smells like burning plasic and the smell is high
Hey man, I am looking for a way to keep my modem running as all my Ring security cameras are wireless and on solar panels. How much runtime do you reckon I would get just having the modem running on it after a power outage? and will this device do the job?
Because your modem only uses on average a dozen or less watts of power it will run longer then your computer, but don't expect it to run all day. A unit like in the video maybe 60 to 90 minutes of run-time.
You may want to check out this link for a run calculator. www.cyberpowersystems.com/tools/runtimes/
@@cfldriven thanks man
@@cfldriven my 850 va lcd will do 244 mins/5 hours for my router alone.
thats why i bought it. i lost power for hours the other week and id like to use my laptop when it goes out.
@@Taybrenn Just got the CyberPower CST1500S and with only a single workstation on it, I can do a fair amount of work before having to power down. The idea of using a UPS with a small load can as you demonstrated get you lots of on time. Also great for charging mobile devices. Thanks for sharing.
For outage longer than a few hours you will need a backup generator. A UPS will protect equipments as output from portable generator might not be as "clean" as utility.
out of every unit i have seen the non backed up outlets do not have any surge protection what so ever on them. Also the rated max runtime is always a lie. you will never get anywhere close to that.
This small unit you have here is actually really meant for simple things like running a router/modem. Id recommend using a power strip with surge protection before the UPS regardless what anyone tells you. just don't plug anything else into the strips.
You may want to consider the CYBERPOWER CST1500S UPS ua-cam.com/video/XveVObW70K4/v-deo.html it offers surge protection on both the backed and non backed receptacles. In addition it provides full sine-wave output which is better for the plugged in electronics. I agree the rated times are just in their dreams, but in our case during an outage it will automatically shut down the workstation or give me enough time to complete a task before shutting down. The 650VA now protects the router. Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@cfldriven i need to look into that. would be good for a project I have in mind.
Trueth or Truth? Great video. Thanks.
Just fixed it. Thank you and thank you for the feedback.
I don't think your supposed to use an extension with this product.
They certainly warn against using surge protect power strips as it voids their surge protection policy.
Yeah I have the old model 650VA and it's failed me 2x in the last 6 months. Had 2 separate `blips' in the house lights and both times the unit stopped feeding power to the devices. Is that dead battery behavior? If so this POS only gave me 18 months of service!
Well it can that the battery has died, rip, in which case check the warranty you maybe able to get free replacement. Or you are drawing too much power and it runs out of juice. Try something simple like one device and see if it keeps it running and for how long. As I say in the video you will not get a long run time unless you are just recharging your phone, these devices are meant to give you enuff power to safely shutdown in extended outage, but should ride out during a blip, unless it is overloaded.
@@cfldriven Thanks for this. Sadly the warranty expired but I can't verify on the website exactly how long that is. With my existing devices I was getting about 10 minutes, then suddenly the unit dies at the slightest blip. Time for a new/better unit! Cheers!
@@danh543 You have a choice of replacing the batteries and saving some money over a new unit or you can upgrade to something like the CyberPower CST1500S. Here is a video on it ua-cam.com/video/XveVObW70K4/v-deo.html . What I did was drop new batteries in my old unit and moved it to backing up the router and some small devices, and put the new unit with the workstation. Best of luck.
@@cfldriven Interesting that the website says the model SX650G does not have a replacement battery except with serial numbers starting with `RAF' I think I'll just recycle the thing and upgrade to a better solution. Thanks for your excellent information and responses!
@@danh543 As I recall, I purchased mine from another vendor. They are very common, but gotta make sure the connections will align with your unit. I generally replace the batteries once and then replace the unit after that. The current ups CST 1500S provides status readout panel and will run the workstation for almost half an hour. That gives me plenty of time to finish a render or casually close out applications. Good luck on your next UPS.
I used mine for camping
Now going to use it for a hurricane for devices and possibly internet connection.
@@bokneeza I had one for the ATT router, but when I switched to cable internet, which will go out with power outage, there no sense providing back up to it. Instead I back up TV for OTA weather updates. Thanks for sharing.
A bit heavy but cheaper then Lith-ion battery pack.
Mine will occasionally start beeping 2 times out of nowhere and it lasts for a while idk why it does this? Can you please help me
I have the second one you showed in the video the 625VA the old one
A drop in line voltage might cause it to start beeping. In my house running the microwave will cause my new one to start beeping.
cfldriven ok so the beeping has stopped but after using it for a few hours it just turns off and everything it’s connected to turns off, this has happened two times so far and my pc turned off and I have to go and press the power button on it for it to turn on. Do you have any idea why it’s doing this? I have the older version that you showed in the video. Plssss respond
@@brviins2577 This sounds more like the internal battery needs to be replaced. Being that it is the older model it may be better to buy a new unit with today's technology then to locate and buy a battery to get this oldie working again. I only consider replacing the battery once and then the next time send it off to the recycling center. I have also had older ups go bad and wasted money on getting replacement battery. Sorry I can't offer more. Good luck.
4:35 - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You don't daisy chain like that! No wonder you had an issue with your unit! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Notice I only used the power strip to extend the reach to the computer and monitor and not to have additional outlets. Thank you for watching our video.
My Cyber power just lasted for an hour
I hope that was enough time, I never pay attention to their stated minutes of runtime it is alway a lot shorter with just a few items plugged in.
nice video but you get 1100 watts inverter 12 volt battery 100 amp deep cycle batter do much better run time long hours
Jack, these UPS are for very short duration use and while your seem may run longer will it automatically switch over and is it capable of safely shutting done a computer? I have a Vector power station that can run a frig for over 6 hours, but provides no UPS or surge protection. ua-cam.com/video/V-bi-2hm-a0/v-deo.html
a new 12v 5ah cost $16 on amazon.
Thanks for sharing that info. I tend to replace the batteries twice before replacing the old unit. By that time the tech has improved and the ups has improved features.
To me,it's not useful.Folks manufacture too much things that they never need them at all.
While not for everyone, these come in handy if you live in an area that experiences power outages or fluctuations. They also protect computers against electrical surges which can damage electronics and data. Thank you for sharing and watching.
Hard wire a lithium battery replacement
John, good idea except these were designed for charging lead acid batteries. The prob with lithium it is expensive compared to lead acid. I have a Vector Power Station powered by lithium and it is north of $600 and it is not a UPS. ua-cam.com/video/V-bi-2hm-a0/v-deo.html
Lithium needs a different charge circuit. Stay with the same battery chemistry but you can add an external much larger battery for longer outages. Lithium is kind of a waste of money for this application.
I Gave you a thumbs down because there is none that tells you how to or what to do incase . so mine was brand new and i charged it 9hrs and it would turn off i needed it for my boat to charge my phone or hear a bit of music on my radio and it would work for 2 min and it would start beeping and then it would turn off.
Elizabeth sorry the video didn't help you out, but it sounds like maybe you are using it for the wrong application. If you are looking for a power source to run your radio, phone while boating then you should look into portable power station. The UPS is meant to come on during a power disruption and depending on the load may only last a few minutes. I just did a video on the Cyberpower CST1500S, which has more power then the 650VA but it only ran my computer for twenty minutes.
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