Thanks! Hi - I wanted to thank you for all your help. Thanks for being a team builder! I have learned a lot and it has saved me a lot of grief and dollars!
Very great build Quick background, im a marine electrician, and design and install systems on boats like these One thing i would recommend is using a class t fuse for the inverter We’ve seen anls break and then re-weld themselves back together and cause a fire But beautiful system!!
I'm just getting started in my solar journey and I am looking for informative videos. I like your presentation style. It moves fast, covers the subject well. I appreciate the matter of fact approach. You speak clearly without stammering or pauses. I subscribed and liked. Well done.
Very good video. I built a 12 volt system like this about 2 years ago using a cart from Harbor Freight. Makes it nice to be able to just roll around the diy solar power station.
I built a system very similar to yours but I used a cart made of composite material that is non-conductive. I enclosed the battery storage shelves with chalkboard material bought at Home Depot for under $10 each. I cut them to cover the sides and back of the open areas pf the cart. I secured them to the cart with strong Velcro. This will prevent items getting into the battery area. I do not have insulated tools, but I do cover the tools I am working with in heat shrink tubing.
Very informative. The fan noise would quite down if you hung the unit on the end opposite the handle thus having top to bottom airflow. That would also free up the top shelf.
love the cart setup. an alternative to the resistor is to put a filament light bulb in series on the positive lead when connecting the battery. also there are a lot of 240vac output ups solar inverter chargers. to use one of those you'll have to add a split phase or center tap transformer, but you can get from the ac output lower amperage while delivering the same amount of power.
NICE! Rule #1 Nothing is EASY! Some suggestions for safety IMHO to prevent a fire (these things HAVE caught Fire). HEY! it's YOUR home. Think AC panels here. A Main disconnect switch of the proper size at the source (that big battery is the source here). THEN a fuse or breaker of the proper size to carry your load and protect the WIRING within 7 inches of the battery POS post (REQUIRED on a commercial unit I believe). Do maintenance checks often and keep connections clean and TIGHT. Could it pass an inspection? HEY! WHAT CAN GO WRONG? Insurance have disallowed claims because of these things. Do it RIGHT don't just make it work!
This is one of my favorite diy build videos. Well done, thank you. I'm jealous of all your backups btw. Subscribed, bell rung, commented, upvoted, liked, shared ... may the algorithm gods smile favorably upon your channel friend.
Thanks for your video, great as always. Wondering if you could do one explaining the pros and cons of 12V vs 24V vs 48 and break down where it would be most beneficial.
48 volt is more efficient than 12 or 24. The more voltage step-up the more power is used just for the step-up process. When using a 220 split phase inverter to power central AC unit or other 220 appliances a 48 volt system is pretty much a must.
@@equanimousawareness If all your doing is keeping the fridge running, 12 or 24 volt is better since the inverter doesn't eat as much power sitting around waiting till it needs some energy output. The 48V split phase eats more power if the AC doesn't turn on.
Great build on the modular setup. Power stations are great but these can be fixed or parts swapped and more. Great for the person who likes to build there own..👍🏼 The sparks 🧨 were great to 😅😉
Nice project and well done video. I really like the concept. Since I already had a 24 V home backup system using rack mounted batteries and Victron Multipluses in split phase mode, I didn't need the inverter. So I just built a 24V battery bank on a three tier cart using 2S3P x 12V 230AH TimeUSB batteries which provide an additional 17.6 kWh of battery capacity for about $3,000 including the cart, bus bars, breakers and cabling. I plug it into my system using 2x175A anderson connectors and 2 x #2AWG cabling.. It works great and has become a permanent part of my home backup system. One additional item to consider when putting 12V batteries in series is to make sure the batteries are all top balanced before hooking them up and add a battery equalizer to keep the 12V batteries balanced over time.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! You brought up some great points. If you’re interested in this topic, we encourage you to check out our award-winning documentary called 𝙂𝙧𝙞𝙙 𝘿𝙤𝙬𝙣 𝙋𝙤𝙬𝙚𝙧 𝙐𝙥 - Documentary, narrated by Dennis Quaid. It’s free on UA-cam, and it goes into a lot of detail on these issues.
What a great tutorial and super neat build. Really interested in that transfer switch and glad to see you also have a video on that. Will be watching that next. :) Cheers from Chiang Mai, Thailand.
I own two Bluetti AC200P's, Echoflow Pro, and an off-brand 2000 watt solar generator plus I have 2820 watts of solar input. My solar generators are usually fully charge by around 12:30 pm. I live in Golden Valley, AZ with around 300 full solar days per year. I have excess solar charging capacity on most days. I like to tinker around with stuff. So, this gives me some ideas for my next project. Thanks for the video!
Cool idea, however your fuse amp rating needs to be smaller then the amp rating of the cable. Also solder on cable going under a screw isn't good practice. But well done and good work.
Stand your inverter up cause heat rises and it rising up into the electronics whilst laying on it back. Great idea and I love that you didn't hide the prices like most people do. I'm looking to do this with a 5kw 240v hybrid growatt to power my house as I'm exporting 20kw a day back to the grid yet still have to but power everyday .
The Danfoss BD50f compressor, for refridgeration, can operate in any power source, it requires 109 watts to operate. You need to purchase the Power Module for your voltage needs, 12/24v, 115v, or 220v. The Power Modules contain an inverter, transforming the input voltage to the requirements of the BD50f. If you have a 115v refridgerator with a BD50f compressor, you can swap Power Modules to the 12v version and run the refridgerator directly from batteries without an inverter. Therefore, more efficient battery usage.
does this inverter have battery overcharge protection? I'm looking for battery back up for my network server. I want it plugged in to AC outlet all the time.
Always check your regulations. Where I live they won't even allow a 1000w system in your home. That's just a single 12v 100ah battery! I can however stick it in the detached cold garage....
I really need to upgrade my system to LiFePO4 batteries. I've got a similar setup attached to 2 160W solar panels. Two 115A/h AGMs, a controller/regulator, and a 3000W Pure Sine wave inverter. I feel like it needs more battery capacity because I can lose 10% of my charge in an hour or two in full sun on the two parallel-connected batteries when running a computer, TV, stereo system, a 75 litre dual zone twin-lid camp fridge, a phone charger, and some LED strip lights. I'm wondering if I've set up an inefficient system. Both panels are connected in parallel as well. Maybe I'm expecting too much from the setup, I dunno. I can run the fridge by itself overnight after an hour or two of using the computer system setup, and it only drops to 48/50% . I need to rethink my computer setup though. It's a desktop using a 100cm Tv as a monitor, and a Sony stereo system for speakers. A lot of power just to watch UA-cam and catch up with news and social media. Good thing I have a ULP genset as a backup I guess.
@@Jasonoid you should, the same kind of people interested in Battery backup will probably have a backup of food stashed away. If I had the means to make a Solar Powered Emergency Bunker I would, lol
@@Jasonoid I have a room in my house I don't use, every time I take a trip to the store I get a couple extra things, little by little without making it look like I'm hoarding
First of all excellent video. I’ve been back and forth on this whole build, or buy a plug and play system. I’m leaning to build. I’ve watched dang near every video I can on this, definitely good info. Might do a combination of the two. Buy a complete system that’s made to match properly, and build it into a portable system. And I do want the ability to plug it in with past through charging capabilities where I can plug into the house or a generator if needs be. I will probably use one of those ABS carts though. I see you guys all using these metal ones and it make me cringe 😬 because I will will shock the hell outta myself doing this otherwise 😂🤣😅
@@Jasonoid Thank you. I was impressed with your setup. Mine is far simpler for now: A Goal Zero Yeti 1000 Core that I’d like to “expand” to power one refrigerator and a TV/Starlink setup in power failures, and to use in our camper to extend boondocking time. A 100A/H 24v battery would preclude the use of a DD to DC converter - my model requires at least 14v at the HPP port to take a charge. And a single 24v 45 lb battery would be handier than 2 25 lb 12v batteries wired in series. But you’ve given me ideas for future projects!
This video was great. Cool project, but I would argue the summer vs winter fridge thing depends…. We keep the house colder in the summer than we do in the winter. The fridge operates on ambient temp, it exists inside the conditioned space of the home, so my assumption is that my fridge uses more power in the winter in my home.
Oh, one more thing...I create insulated sleeves with heat shrink tubing. I tape off one end with electrical tape and then I slip one each over the pos and the neg lug. I use a tubing diameter that is snug enough that it will not fall off.
I like the thinking outside the box. We have come to be reliant on plug and play, if a single device i.e. solar generator fails, or your generator fails, you are SOL, this has its place. Single items can be replaced to restore the system. Having said that, I am a huge bluetti fan, I have AC200max with 2 b230 batteries. I have 2 EB70 and 1 EB55 in 220v versions. I have spare cables and spare power supplies. But always looking for other ideas. Great video thank you.
Can you connect the ac output to the wall plug to run all the house power And also connect the ac input to wall outlet to charge the battery when the power come at the same time ?
I've always liked the component systems. I guess this is a hybrid component system. I am impressed. Are you going to put the add-on WiFi connection on it? Great concept of the HF cart. Thank you for a very good video Jason.
Thanks Kevin! I like how it has the option for the WiFi module and I have thought about adding that for convenience. I'm just hoping this project is an idea bed for others looking to do the same thing.
I happened to be watching while on Bluetooth to my home theater receiver with Klipsch dual 12 sub. When you connected the battery to the inverter, the floor shook🎉 😂
I'm going to have to try that out, watching on my phone, but have the same Klipsch sub! It's a beast. Always surprises thinking something is going on outside in real life 😂
This is great. I was just talking to Ask Ive Solar about a very similar setup as an alternative to a powerstation. Though it was using an EG4 version of this and server rack batteries. Did you consider the structural foam carts? They are the same though they might not have the middle shelf. I like that a system based on an all in one tends to have a lot more charging amps, wider voltage range, and programmability. I am trying to figure out home assistant right now so I can make my EG4s turn on AC charging when the forecast and my weather station confirm poor sunlight.
I think for someone looking to build a 'future proof' DIY setup, 48v is the only way to go. I LOVE those 48v LFP server rack batteries! Eventually I want to have a system like that in my home, it's just a fairly large investment. Adding a smart capability would be really cool! Just make sure you purchase UL listed components since those items have been vetted for safety in your home.
Question so the power coming out of your inverter is only supplying 120 volts to you transfer switch am I right. If not how did you wire the the connection in the transfer switch box. Why didn't you ground the output from the inverter. Thanks
Older video I know, but... Could I tie two of these inverters together for split phase 240? I understand this can get complicated... Just wondering if this inverter can do that or if you have a suggestion on a different one to accomplish the goal of a similar cart build but that can provide 240 (split phase). Thanks for the video and simple break down.
One thing I would be a little weary of though is tinning wires before putting them in a compression style connection like that. Probably will be fine though. Nice video!!
Is it possible to build this inside a big tool box? I just sold my small power station because i want something bigger for emergency or my job ( drywall construction) and building this on a tool box would be easier for me to carry
@Jasonoid thanks for taking the time to answer!! I also saw a new power station dabbsson for a great price. I'm looking for a good 2000wh power station but I'm not sure if I should build my own because of all those bad reviews about costumer service also saw oukitel p2001 for $950
@@pilinke11 I'm doing a really simple backup system video using a 12v 200ah battery and a 2000w inverter this week (should be out Friday). It's been running my fridge for 30 hours so far. DIY is nice since you can swap a part thag fails vs having an entire system go down. I have more confidence in the higher quality power stations but you have to pay a premium for them so DIY is a bit cheaper.
Seeing that you are going to a transfer switch, do you have the neutrals from invertor , line and load tied together. Bonding of neutral and ground at main line panel only. So your inverter should be a floating neutral , not bonded. The rule being bonding can only at one place only .
Great video and I've done a similar setup with a cart in my garage so I can bring power where I need it in my driveway. If I would do it over again, 48v all the way.
@@Jasonoid like you, I wanted to use what I already had on hand and it worked out. 48v would be ideal just from a wiring perspective, especially with the array you have in the driveway.
Any chance you could do a current remake since prices are cheaper. I'm looking at doing this for an emergency system (with Victron items) Love the videos as always
Enjoyed your presentation and certainly a modular, DIY approach to home backup power is in many ways superior to off the shelf products. I forget, was there a monitor for battery SOC in your set up? For camping (and home backup), I built a 12 V 100 ah battery with MPPT charging, various connectors, a charger and a small inverter and find that an EcoFlow Delta 2 does the job better in a smaller package. However, if anything goes bad on the Delta I can’t really know what has gone wrong and will have to wait weeks sending it in for repairs, etc . With a DIY unit, you have more options. Did I mention I really enjoy your videos?
Thanks Jack! The SOC is kinda tracked in the inverter on the screen... It's not amazing though. I think the portable units have their place, the Delta 2 is so lightweight and compact. It certainly is one of the best current options for a 1000wh device. I personally enjoy DIY and off the shelf options because both have advantages.
I just installed a whole house 26kw NG generator with ATS and am interested in adding a whole house battery pack to sustain for 3-5 days. When batteries are exhausted generator starts, recharges and then shuts off. How do I determine my battery needs for whole house application?
Great video, I just made a video with my slightly upgraded setup, still 12V... i want to go 48V soon. your video helped explain some of the aspects of it. thanks!
There was no comment about the transfer switch wiring, normally they are wired for 240 split phase, but your invertor was 125V...I know the teansfer switch can be wirred as you want, but I did not hear that mentioned.
You can have both 120v and 240v transfer switches. You can connect to either leg. I have circuits from both sides. Reliance Controls has some really great videos on them on UA-cam.
Wow, this is almost what I'm working on in my basement! I saw Survival Lily use a cart in a video a while ago, which I thought was a wonderful idea, and now you. 😁For what its worth, on mine I am using 4x 100Ah batteries that just fit on the bottom shelf. (I used a piece of 1in thick insulation board under the batteries to cover the screw heads for the casters and the ends of the screws holding the uprights.)
I bought the 24v kit. The issue I have run into is delayed shipping. They didn't inform me most of the kit is in background. The other issue I ran into is I did manage to get it put together and the batteries won't charge. Tech support is really slow to respond.
What is the durability of this set up? How often would you need to replace things like the batterys and inverter? I mostly want something like this that i can use as a power source during emergencies so i don't have to run my generator all day and night.
Question Jason, should we remove the plastic covers in the all in one unit? I removed the plastic and now I don't hear the fans running, I hope that is ok.
Usually grid tie systems do not support battery connections or if they do they have to be a proprietary setup. That's the one downside of those systems. I use this setup with a transfer switch which is completely separate from the grid when in use.
hi i want to use this diy technique to power my rv using the 50amp plug that I usually plug into the camp site power pole.. is this possible? similar to the new power banks that can do that example: oupes mega 2 , 3 and 5 .. thanks
How would this set up compare to a Eco Flow Delta 2 Max? I think it has more storage capacity? Trying to figure out which way to go for a home backup system I would appreciate any help
If I built something like this again, I'd go with a 48v server rack battery. They are just so easy to use. Then I'd chose a 48v all in one charger, inverter. For around $2000 you can get 5120kw of battery and a decent inverter with TONS of solar. The main benefit of the Delta 2 Max is portability and convenience.
Thanks for sharing the cart build, i think you have enough room on that shelf for 4 of those 200ah batteries so a 48v system coulda been done i think. i was a bit concerned seeing that battery not in a case, but then ya told us its because it wouldn't fit on the cart, still looks a bit weird but, it works.
Even though the battery was removed from it's case the terminals were protected. One could fit 4 200ah batteries on the cart if two of them were removed from their cases, sad to see so much wasted space on these larger batteries! That's why I recommended the four (100ah) batteries in a series / parallel config so the battery warranties would be intact still. What I need to figure out is if a 48v server rack battery would fit on the shelf of this cart...haha
i am sure you have watched some of will prowse's videos and that will give you an idea of how large those server rack batteries are. i would think that not gonna happen. a cart video of another creator i watch ua-cam.com/video/J9WZcMDQaDg/v-deo.html
I have a 2000 watt backup power battery sold by FF Power. It has several 110 v outlets. I'm wondering if I could plug from the 110 to my transfer box, cutting most of the breakers, and run "essential" appliances overnight (sm. space heater + refrigerator)? All I'm tryijg to accomplish is avoiding running the generator (10kw) 24/7 when the power goes out.
@@Jasonoid thanks. So if you need more power during an outage even without sun or solar, you could use your Car as a Generator to refill at say 800-1000 watts with our product CarGenerator. Its a turn-key user friendly inverter in a fully weatherproof housing, you can just run an extension cord in from your car and let it charge for a few hours to refill. Let us know if you would like to have a demo unit to review etc. Here is a rainy example... ua-cam.com/video/zd1h1CdOycA/v-deo.html
My setup I made in 2016 uses 4 6v 260Ah AGM batteries (Renogy) due to costs of lithium in 2018. A Renogy 2000w pure sine wave inverter/charger, cables, breakers, and fused properly. An Epever 40amp solar controller, MT50 monitor on an 800lb Gorilla cart. I can grid power, generator, or use the 800watts of solar panels. Tested and routinely used as UPS.
I was wondering how you wired your transfer switch. The inverter output is 120V AC. So you can't wire with 120/240 split phase. Did you just use a jumper off the hot to power both bus bars with 120V? Seems like that is the only way be able to use all six breakers. Thanks.
It's a 120v transfer switch. All circuits are powered by one 120v leg. If it was a 240v it would require two hot legs. They offer many different models.
The inverter docs state that the inverter swill switch to battery within 10ms and not shutoff electronics. So am I correct that this inverter w/batteries could be used in place of a traditional computer UPS system?
This does have a UPS feature but I didn't test the actual cut-over time. If it's actually a 10ms cut-over it will work well for that. I recently sold this so I can't test that out.
@@Jasonoid OK Thanks. I was debating getting a used TrippLite 3000W UPS and then expand the batteries. But this inverter might be even better since it can be fed different incoming power sources.
Im doing the same setup but my transfer switch has a L14-30P plug. How do i wire this? Do i put thr two Hots together or only use one? Luckily im not running anything that requires 240 on my transfer circuits. So the 110 is fine.
If you are running only 120v circuits, you can purchase an adapter that's 'bridged' between both 120v legs so it will power both sides of your transfer switch. Most dog bone adapters are bridged
@Jasonoid Thanks, I already had a spare L14-30P cord. So, I spliced the X-Y together with a connector and Ran a single wire into the L slot and the Neutral in the N slot. I also went ahead and ran the Ground to a nut on the back of the unit. Does this sound all good?
I've got the same system, except for the batteries. I have two 300 ah 12v power queen batteries. The same sungold 24 volt system. Will see how it works.
Great video and I love the cart idea! What would you say are the main advantages over this system vs a Delta Pro? I know what the retail price of the DP is but they routinely go on sale for close to this systems price.
Great video! Was looking to something similar l but with the MPP 2724, but I can see the versatility of using a system that plugs directly into a transfer switch.
I live in SW Florida and the last hurricane I was in power was out for 11 days. With a few solar panels would this system power a small in window roll around AC unit and the fridge and freezer? and how many solar panels would I need to get to recharge in timely manner?
This setup would power your fridge and freezer just fine. I'd recommend around 400 to 500 watts of solar for the setup in the video. If you wanted to power a window AC unit you'd want a larger battery and double the solar.
@@Jasonoid thanks Jason, would love a video simulated 4-5 days of power outage and what essentials you could power. There are like none of them on youtube that I could find. Most of it is peace of mind, food storage and the ability to sleep comfortably at night.
@@mobius6772 I have a wife and kids so a long term simulated power outage is pretty hard to do with all the requirements of normal life. If it was just me at home, totally! I am currently running my Ecoflow Delta Ultra with a reliance controls 10 circuit transfer switch and it's powering critical loads non stop. That test has been going for about 1.5 months now running 10 circuits. This setup does require a bit of solar and batteries but it's possible. I have about 20kwh of batteries and 2400 watts of solar. I see a constant load of about 500 watts. During the day it's no problem when the sun is shining. It's getting through the night and cloudy days that's difficult.
@@Jasonoid Sorry Jason I was a little vague, I was just interested in a setup that could run a inside (Fridge Freezer Combo) a (garage stand up freezer), and (a roll around AC unit) to sleep at night. All of this that could be recharged the next day from portable solar panels if it was a sunny day. I am new to solar and battery system so forgive my ignorance. These are all for emergencies to go 5-10 days without power.
@@mobius6772 I got lots of videos showing options that will work for you. An air conditioner is a large power consuming device so just be aware of that. One thing you could do is purchase a watt meter and track how many kilowatt hours each device pulls for 24 hours.
That resistor explosion was a nice touch and a good laugh.
Thanks! Hi - I wanted to thank you for all your help. Thanks for being a team builder! I have learned a lot and it has saved me a lot of grief and dollars!
Thank you so much, Katy!
Very great build
Quick background, im a marine electrician, and design and install systems on boats like these
One thing i would recommend is using a class t fuse for the inverter
We’ve seen anls break and then re-weld themselves back together and cause a fire
But beautiful system!!
Thanks for sharing your experience, that's helpful!
You're always so good at thoroughly explaining everything! And making it look so simple. Thank you, Jason.
I'm just getting started in my solar journey and I am looking for informative videos. I like your presentation style. It moves fast, covers the subject well. I appreciate the matter of fact approach. You speak clearly without stammering or pauses. I subscribed and liked. Well done.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Jason, I really love your canned food setup in the back. Looks like it's setup so you can see the dates on all the cans.
I made a video about it AWHILE back, you can see it here: ua-cam.com/video/hSZ0Hh3urvM/v-deo.html
Very good video. I built a 12 volt system like this about 2 years ago using a cart from Harbor Freight. Makes it nice to be able to just roll around the diy solar power station.
I built a system very similar to yours but I used a cart made of composite material that is non-conductive. I enclosed the battery storage shelves with chalkboard material bought at Home Depot for under $10 each. I cut them to cover the sides and back of the open areas pf the cart. I secured them to the cart with strong Velcro. This will prevent items getting into the battery area.
I do not have insulated tools, but I do cover the tools I am working with in heat shrink tubing.
The only thing I would change with this system is placing the battery fuse closer to the battery and adding a battery disconnect for safety
Very informative. The fan noise would quite down if you hung the unit on the end opposite the handle thus having top to bottom airflow. That would also free up the top shelf.
love the cart setup. an alternative to the resistor is to put a filament light bulb in series on the positive lead when connecting the battery. also there are a lot of 240vac output ups solar inverter chargers. to use one of those you'll have to add a split phase or center tap transformer, but you can get from the ac output lower amperage while delivering the same amount of power.
NICE! Rule #1 Nothing is EASY! Some suggestions for safety IMHO to prevent a fire (these things HAVE caught Fire). HEY! it's YOUR home. Think AC panels here. A Main disconnect switch of the proper size at the source (that big battery is the source here). THEN a fuse or breaker of the proper size to carry your load and protect the WIRING within 7 inches of the battery POS post (REQUIRED on a commercial unit I believe). Do maintenance checks often and keep connections clean and TIGHT. Could it pass an inspection? HEY! WHAT CAN GO WRONG? Insurance have disallowed claims because of these things. Do it RIGHT don't just make it work!
Do you have any videos on that can storage rack?
Thanks!
Thank you so much Erik!
Awesome video
Thanks for checking it out!
Agreed 😊
Agreed!
That is a Very Neat Looking Setup, all your contacts and runs are done very professionally
This is one of my favorite diy build videos. Well done, thank you. I'm jealous of all your backups btw. Subscribed, bell rung, commented, upvoted, liked, shared ... may the algorithm gods smile favorably upon your channel friend.
Thanks! :)
Thanks for your video, great as always. Wondering if you could do one explaining the pros and cons of 12V vs 24V vs 48 and break down where it would be most beneficial.
Great suggestion!
48 volt is more efficient than 12 or 24. The more voltage step-up the more power is used just for the step-up process. When using a 220 split phase inverter to power central AC unit or other 220 appliances a 48 volt system is pretty much a must.
@@equanimousawareness If all your doing is keeping the fridge running, 12 or 24 volt is better since the inverter doesn't eat as much power sitting around waiting till it needs some energy output. The 48V split phase eats more power if the AC doesn't turn on.
wow.. thanks for the tip about the resistor.. really appreciate it.
Great build on the modular setup. Power stations are great but these can be fixed or parts swapped and more. Great for the person who likes to build there own..👍🏼
The sparks 🧨 were great to 😅😉
Totally agree! Upgrading or adding batteries is EASY with a setup like this.
Nice project and well done video. I really like the concept. Since I already had a 24 V home backup system using rack mounted batteries and Victron Multipluses in split phase mode, I didn't need the inverter. So I just built a 24V battery bank on a three tier cart using 2S3P x 12V 230AH TimeUSB batteries which provide an additional 17.6 kWh of battery capacity for about $3,000 including the cart, bus bars, breakers and cabling. I plug it into my system using 2x175A anderson connectors and 2 x #2AWG cabling.. It works great and has become a permanent part of my home backup system. One additional item to consider when putting 12V batteries in series is to make sure the batteries are all top balanced before hooking them up and add a battery equalizer to keep the 12V batteries balanced over time.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! You brought up some great points. If you’re interested in this topic, we encourage you to check out our award-winning documentary called 𝙂𝙧𝙞𝙙 𝘿𝙤𝙬𝙣 𝙋𝙤𝙬𝙚𝙧 𝙐𝙥 - Documentary, narrated by Dennis Quaid. It’s free on UA-cam, and it goes into a lot of detail on these issues.
What a great tutorial and super neat build. Really interested in that transfer switch and glad to see you also have a video on that. Will be watching that next. :)
Cheers from Chiang Mai, Thailand.
I own two Bluetti AC200P's, Echoflow Pro, and an off-brand 2000 watt solar generator plus I have 2820 watts of solar input. My solar generators are usually fully charge by around 12:30 pm. I live in Golden Valley, AZ with around 300 full solar days per year. I have excess solar charging capacity on most days. I like to tinker around with stuff. So, this gives me some ideas for my next project. Thanks for the video!
Cool idea, however your fuse amp rating needs to be smaller then the amp rating of the cable. Also solder on cable going under a screw isn't good practice. But well done and good work.
Hi, great system. I am wondering if the charging is completed and you are running on AC Bypass will the fan still be running?
Stand your inverter up cause heat rises and it rising up into the electronics whilst laying on it back. Great idea and I love that you didn't hide the prices like most people do. I'm looking to do this with a 5kw 240v hybrid growatt to power my house as I'm exporting 20kw a day back to the grid yet still have to but power everyday .
The Danfoss BD50f compressor, for refridgeration, can operate in any power source, it requires 109 watts to operate. You need to purchase the Power Module for your voltage needs, 12/24v, 115v, or 220v.
The Power Modules contain an inverter, transforming the input voltage to the requirements of the BD50f.
If you have a 115v refridgerator with a BD50f compressor, you can swap Power Modules to the 12v version and run the refridgerator directly from batteries without an inverter. Therefore, more efficient battery usage.
That is good to know!
Thank you! 5ohm 10 watt resitor those huge sparks are always adrenaline dumps😊
Love the setup, definitely a life saver for any emergency...well explained great channel....!!!
What up Doe!?
I really like that all in one setup with adding 4 batteries Dr J'
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does this inverter have battery overcharge protection? I'm looking for battery back up for my network server. I want it plugged in to AC outlet all the time.
Always check your regulations. Where I live they won't even allow a 1000w system in your home. That's just a single 12v 100ah battery! I can however stick it in the detached cold garage....
i wonder if you can put in some noctua fans to quiet the inverter?
I really need to upgrade my system to LiFePO4 batteries.
I've got a similar setup attached to 2 160W solar panels. Two 115A/h AGMs, a controller/regulator, and a 3000W Pure Sine wave inverter. I feel like it needs more battery capacity because I can lose 10% of my charge in an hour or two in full sun on the two parallel-connected batteries when running a computer, TV, stereo system, a 75 litre dual zone twin-lid camp fridge, a phone charger, and some LED strip lights. I'm wondering if I've set up an inefficient system. Both panels are connected in parallel as well. Maybe I'm expecting too much from the setup, I dunno. I can run the fridge by itself overnight after an hour or two of using the computer system setup, and it only drops to 48/50% . I need to rethink my computer setup though. It's a desktop using a 100cm Tv as a monitor, and a Sony stereo system for speakers. A lot of power just to watch UA-cam and catch up with news and social media.
Good thing I have a ULP genset as a backup I guess.
do the AC in and out need to have breakers?
I love the Rack to the Right with the Preps. I see your Prepared. I have a similar setup myself
I was thinking of doing a simple preparedness video. It's good to have food, water, supplies, and energy stored up :)
@@Jasonoid you should, the same kind of people interested in Battery backup will probably have a backup of food stashed away. If I had the means to make a Solar Powered Emergency Bunker I would, lol
@@Jasonoid I have a room in my house I don't use, every time I take a trip to the store I get a couple extra things, little by little without making it look like I'm hoarding
@@Moes_Prep_and_Tech that's the way to do it!
First of all excellent video. I’ve been back and forth on this whole build, or buy a plug and play system. I’m leaning to build. I’ve watched dang near every video I can on this, definitely good info. Might do a combination of the two. Buy a complete system that’s made to match properly, and build it into a portable system. And I do want the ability to plug it in with past through charging capabilities where I can plug into the house or a generator if needs be. I will probably use one of those ABS carts though. I see you guys all using these metal ones and it make me cringe 😬 because I will will shock the hell outta myself doing this otherwise 😂🤣😅
When are you going to put out the review on that 2400 Fossibot?
It's scheduled for next month.
Nicely done! Is there any reason not to use a 24v lithium iron battery of appropriate amp/hours? Seems like it would reduce a bit of wiring.
Yep, that would work fine as well. Jus make sure the BMS can handle the max load of the inverter.
@@Jasonoid Thank you. I was impressed with your setup. Mine is far simpler for now: A Goal Zero Yeti 1000 Core that I’d like to “expand” to power one refrigerator and a TV/Starlink setup in power failures, and to use in our camper to extend boondocking time. A 100A/H 24v battery would preclude the use of a DD to DC converter - my model requires at least 14v at the HPP port to take a charge. And a single 24v 45 lb battery would be handier than 2 25 lb 12v batteries wired in series. But you’ve given me ideas for future projects!
This video was great. Cool project, but I would argue the summer vs winter fridge thing depends…. We keep the house colder in the summer than we do in the winter. The fridge operates on ambient temp, it exists inside the conditioned space of the home, so my assumption is that my fridge uses more power in the winter in my home.
Awesome video. I wish I seen it sooner. I’m now to far into my 12v system to make the switch. No pun intended.
Oh, one more thing...I create insulated sleeves with heat shrink tubing. I tape off one end with electrical tape and then I slip one each over the pos and the neg lug. I use a tubing diameter that is snug enough that it will not fall off.
You are a great teacher....
Thank you! 😃
This is a fantastic video. The info you presented was just outstanding. Very good learning
Thank you very much!
I used that same cart for a build I did about 4 years ago using Tesla modules. 👍
I like the thinking outside the box. We have come to be reliant on plug and play, if a single device i.e. solar generator fails, or your generator fails, you are SOL, this has its place. Single items can be replaced to restore the system. Having said that, I am a huge bluetti fan, I have AC200max with 2 b230 batteries. I have 2 EB70 and 1 EB55 in 220v versions. I have spare cables and spare power supplies. But always looking for other ideas. Great video thank you.
Can you connect the ac output to the wall plug to run all the house power
And also connect the ac input to wall outlet to charge the battery when the power come at the same time ?
I've always liked the component systems. I guess this is a hybrid component system. I am impressed. Are you going to put the add-on WiFi connection on it? Great concept of the HF cart. Thank you for a very good video Jason.
Thanks Kevin! I like how it has the option for the WiFi module and I have thought about adding that for convenience. I'm just hoping this project is an idea bed for others looking to do the same thing.
I happened to be watching while on Bluetooth to my home theater receiver with Klipsch dual 12 sub.
When you connected the battery to the inverter, the floor shook🎉 😂
Heck yeah! LOL
I'm going to have to try that out, watching on my phone, but have the same Klipsch sub! It's a beast.
Always surprises thinking something is going on outside in real life 😂
i want to connect two 12v 200ah powerqueens in serie for a 24v system.do i need a victron battery balancer?
It’s a floating neutral device, which is good because it will ground to your house via transfer switch. You don’t want 2 ground points at once
This is great. I was just talking to Ask Ive Solar about a very similar setup as an alternative to a powerstation. Though it was using an EG4 version of this and server rack batteries. Did you consider the structural foam carts? They are the same though they might not have the middle shelf.
I like that a system based on an all in one tends to have a lot more charging amps, wider voltage range, and programmability. I am trying to figure out home assistant right now so I can make my EG4s turn on AC charging when the forecast and my weather station confirm poor sunlight.
I think for someone looking to build a 'future proof' DIY setup, 48v is the only way to go. I LOVE those 48v LFP server rack batteries! Eventually I want to have a system like that in my home, it's just a fairly large investment. Adding a smart capability would be really cool!
Just make sure you purchase UL listed components since those items have been vetted for safety in your home.
do you know of any software for the communication that will work for this inverter. i built the same sort of setup
Love this setup. Would you consider doing remote consulting for a fee to help me on a similar setup?
Question so the power coming out of your inverter is only supplying 120 volts to you transfer switch am I right. If not how did you wire the the connection in the transfer switch box. Why didn't you ground the output from the inverter. Thanks
Older video I know, but... Could I tie two of these inverters together for split phase 240?
I understand this can get complicated... Just wondering if this inverter can do that or if you have a suggestion on a different one to accomplish the goal of a similar cart build but that can provide 240 (split phase). Thanks for the video and simple break down.
One thing I would be a little weary of though is tinning wires before putting them in a compression style connection like that. Probably will be fine though. Nice video!!
Thank you, I learned that after posting this video.
Is it possible to build this inside a big tool box? I just sold my small power station because i want something bigger for emergency or my job ( drywall construction) and building this on a tool box would be easier for me to carry
Sure, you'd just want to make sure it has adequate ventilation since it has fans to keep cool.
@Jasonoid thanks for taking the time to answer!!
I also saw a new power station dabbsson for a great price. I'm looking for a good 2000wh power station but I'm not sure if I should build my own because of all those bad reviews about costumer service also saw oukitel p2001 for $950
@@pilinke11 I'm doing a really simple backup system video using a 12v 200ah battery and a 2000w inverter this week (should be out Friday). It's been running my fridge for 30 hours so far. DIY is nice since you can swap a part thag fails vs having an entire system go down. I have more confidence in the higher quality power stations but you have to pay a premium for them so DIY is a bit cheaper.
@Jasonoid I will wait for your video on Friday I need a backup but portability and the diy way is great in case something happens 😀
Seeing that you are going to a transfer switch, do you have the neutrals from invertor , line and load tied together. Bonding of neutral and ground at main line panel only. So your inverter should be a floating neutral , not bonded.
The rule being bonding can only at one place only .
Great video and I've done a similar setup with a cart in my garage so I can bring power where I need it in my driveway. If I would do it over again, 48v all the way.
Yeah, 48v system with server rack batteries!
@@Jasonoid like you, I wanted to use what I already had on hand and it worked out. 48v would be ideal just from a wiring perspective, especially with the array you have in the driveway.
Any chance you could do a current remake since prices are cheaper. I'm looking at doing this for an emergency system (with Victron items) Love the videos as always
Thank you for sharing. I am looking forward in creating my own system.
How would this be using in a van?
Enjoyed your presentation and certainly a modular, DIY approach to home backup power is in many ways superior to off the shelf products. I forget, was there a monitor for battery SOC in your set up? For camping (and home backup), I built a 12 V 100 ah battery with MPPT charging, various connectors, a charger and a small inverter and find that an EcoFlow Delta 2 does the job better in a smaller package. However, if anything goes bad on the Delta I can’t really know what has gone wrong and will have to wait weeks sending it in for repairs, etc . With a DIY unit, you have more options. Did I mention I really enjoy your videos?
Thanks Jack! The SOC is kinda tracked in the inverter on the screen... It's not amazing though.
I think the portable units have their place, the Delta 2 is so lightweight and compact. It certainly is one of the best current options for a 1000wh device. I personally enjoy DIY and off the shelf options because both have advantages.
I just installed a whole house 26kw NG generator with ATS and am interested in adding a whole house battery pack to sustain for 3-5 days. When batteries are exhausted generator starts, recharges and then shuts off. How do I determine my battery needs for whole house application?
Great video, I just made a video with my slightly upgraded setup, still 12V... i want to go 48V soon. your video helped explain some of the aspects of it. thanks!
There was no comment about the transfer switch wiring, normally they are wired for 240 split phase, but your invertor was 125V...I know the teansfer switch can be wirred as you want, but I did not hear that mentioned.
Can you use circuits from both 120 volt legs of your house 240v system or is a Transfer Switch limited to just one leg?
You can have both 120v and 240v transfer switches. You can connect to either leg. I have circuits from both sides. Reliance Controls has some really great videos on them on UA-cam.
Wow, this is almost what I'm working on in my basement! I saw Survival Lily use a cart in a video a while ago, which I thought was a wonderful idea, and now you. 😁For what its worth, on mine I am using 4x 100Ah batteries that just fit on the bottom shelf. (I used a piece of 1in thick insulation board under the batteries to cover the screw heads for the casters and the ends of the screws holding the uprights.)
Four 100ah batteries is probably the best way to go, then you can pull the full 3000 watts.
Do you have a link to the Oscilloscope?
Great video
Thanks
Here's a link to the same oscilloscope: amzn.to/4bCqqRp
Can you add a wind generator with that system
Do you think the DIY vs. the dabbsson 3030wh (DBS1300+DBS1700) that is just $850?
Excellent video. I have a Delta mini but I think I will build one of these also because I can always add additional batteries later on.
Glad it was helpful!
I bought the 24v kit. The issue I have run into is delayed shipping. They didn't inform me most of the kit is in background. The other issue I ran into is I did manage to get it put together and the batteries won't charge. Tech support is really slow to respond.
all in ones are for sure the way to go when it comes to solar input and battery storage cost
if you dont need to be mobile.
I agree, it's super simple to put together! This one is KINDA mobile with the wheels, but nothing like a portable power station haha.
What is the durability of this set up? How often would you need to replace things like the batterys and inverter? I mostly want something like this that i can use as a power source during emergencies so i don't have to run my generator all day and night.
Question Jason, should we remove the plastic covers in the all in one unit? I removed the plastic and now I don't hear the fans running, I hope that is ok.
The fans run based on temperature, so maybe it'd cooler without the cover installed and the fans don't need to run as much?
Looks like the one silver Stacks Prepper made. Nice 🙂
I haven't seen his channel before, I'll check it out!
@Jasonoid how would you set this up if the house already has Solar but no batterey system for the house?
Usually grid tie systems do not support battery connections or if they do they have to be a proprietary setup. That's the one downside of those systems.
I use this setup with a transfer switch which is completely separate from the grid when in use.
hi i want to use this diy technique to power my rv using the 50amp plug that I usually plug into the camp site power pole.. is this possible? similar to the new power banks that can do that example: oupes mega 2 , 3 and 5 .. thanks
You'd just need to connect an adapter thats compatible with your connection. I don't see why it wouldn't work.
Nice one bro
How would this set up compare to a Eco Flow Delta 2 Max? I think it has more storage capacity? Trying to figure out which way to go for a home backup system I would appreciate any help
If I built something like this again, I'd go with a 48v server rack battery. They are just so easy to use. Then I'd chose a 48v all in one charger, inverter. For around $2000 you can get 5120kw of battery and a decent inverter with TONS of solar.
The main benefit of the Delta 2 Max is portability and convenience.
Thanks for sharing the cart build, i think you have enough room on that shelf for 4 of those 200ah batteries so a 48v system coulda been done i think.
i was a bit concerned seeing that battery not in a case, but then ya told us its because it wouldn't fit on the cart, still looks a bit weird but, it works.
Even though the battery was removed from it's case the terminals were protected. One could fit 4 200ah batteries on the cart if two of them were removed from their cases, sad to see so much wasted space on these larger batteries! That's why I recommended the four (100ah) batteries in a series / parallel config so the battery warranties would be intact still.
What I need to figure out is if a 48v server rack battery would fit on the shelf of this cart...haha
i am sure you have watched some of will prowse's videos and that will give you an idea of how large those server rack batteries are. i would think that not gonna happen.
a cart video of another creator i watch ua-cam.com/video/J9WZcMDQaDg/v-deo.html
@@user--PM I watch both lithium solar and will prowse videos 👍 I love that cart video! Excellent design!
I have a 2000 watt backup power battery sold by FF Power. It has several 110 v outlets. I'm wondering if I could plug from the 110 to my transfer box, cutting most of the breakers, and run "essential" appliances overnight (sm. space heater + refrigerator)? All I'm tryijg to accomplish is avoiding running the generator (10kw) 24/7 when the power goes out.
Yes, you can run your transfer switch off your 2000w power station. You just can't pull over 2000 watts total.
great video thanks. Is the AC charging input variable ? Can you adjust it to charge from a 1000w external generator?
Yes, you can change the charge rate in the setting of the All In One unit to what you want.
@@Jasonoid thanks. So if you need more power during an outage even without sun or solar, you could use your Car as a Generator to refill at say 800-1000 watts with our product CarGenerator. Its a turn-key user friendly inverter in a fully weatherproof housing, you can just run an extension cord in from your car and let it charge for a few hours to refill. Let us know if you would like to have a demo unit to review etc. Here is a rainy example... ua-cam.com/video/zd1h1CdOycA/v-deo.html
how much the price that generator power solar complate set
Tear downs are good. You really do need to see the quality of the build.
My setup I made in 2016 uses 4 6v 260Ah AGM batteries (Renogy) due to costs of lithium in 2018. A Renogy 2000w pure sine wave inverter/charger, cables, breakers, and fused properly. An Epever 40amp solar controller, MT50 monitor on an 800lb Gorilla cart. I can grid power, generator, or use the 800watts of solar panels. Tested and routinely used as UPS.
Great setup! That's a lot of power right there!
I was wondering how you wired your transfer switch. The inverter output is 120V AC. So you can't wire with 120/240 split phase. Did you just use a jumper off the hot to power both bus bars with 120V? Seems like that is the only way be able to use all six breakers. Thanks.
It's a 120v transfer switch. All circuits are powered by one 120v leg. If it was a 240v it would require two hot legs. They offer many different models.
The inverter docs state that the inverter swill switch to battery within 10ms and not shutoff electronics. So am I correct that this inverter w/batteries could be used in place of a traditional computer UPS system?
This does have a UPS feature but I didn't test the actual cut-over time. If it's actually a 10ms cut-over it will work well for that. I recently sold this so I can't test that out.
@@Jasonoid OK Thanks. I was debating getting a used TrippLite 3000W UPS and then expand the batteries. But this inverter might be even better since it can be fed different incoming power sources.
Another great job and video. Thank you for taking the time and sharing the info. God Bless.
Im doing the same setup but my transfer switch has a L14-30P plug. How do i wire this? Do i put thr two Hots together or only use one? Luckily im not running anything that requires 240 on my transfer circuits. So the 110 is fine.
If you are running only 120v circuits, you can purchase an adapter that's 'bridged' between both 120v legs so it will power both sides of your transfer switch. Most dog bone adapters are bridged
@Jasonoid Thanks, I already had a spare L14-30P cord. So, I spliced the X-Y together with a connector and Ran a single wire into the L slot and the Neutral in the N slot. I also went ahead and ran the Ground to a nut on the back of the unit. Does this sound all good?
@joevaldez2571 it's hard for me to tell from just the text here. You'll just have to test it out and see how it works.
I've got the same system, except for the batteries. I have two 300 ah 12v power queen batteries. The same sungold 24 volt system. Will see how it works.
Great video and I love the cart idea! What would you say are the main advantages over this system vs a Delta Pro? I know what the retail price of the DP is but they routinely go on sale for close to this systems price.
Will made a similar video and compared it to the DP Pro, I watched it this morning.
ua-cam.com/video/fdeZz4QvxG0/v-deo.html
thanks great job Sr
Great video! Was looking to something similar l but with the MPP 2724, but I can see the versatility of using a system that plugs directly into a transfer switch.
With a system like this you can take it with you to the next house :)
did you used converter from 24v to 12v for some appliances or devices 12v?
You can definitely do that if you are wanting to run 12v devices off the 24v battery. There are many options available online.
@@Jasonoid are there any harm when you use the 12v device or appliance on 24v system with no converter?
Yes, the 12v device will be harmed or damaged with the higher voltage. Don't hook 12v devices up to 24v batteries.
Great video!! Awesome idea! I am going to copy your system. Thanks for sharing your build!!
Excellent thanks Jason 💐
I live in SW Florida and the last hurricane I was in power was out for 11 days. With a few solar panels would this system power a small in window roll around AC unit and the fridge and freezer? and how many solar panels would I need to get to recharge in timely manner?
This setup would power your fridge and freezer just fine. I'd recommend around 400 to 500 watts of solar for the setup in the video. If you wanted to power a window AC unit you'd want a larger battery and double the solar.
@@Jasonoid thanks Jason, would love a video simulated 4-5 days of power outage and what essentials you could power. There are like none of them on youtube that I could find. Most of it is peace of mind, food storage and the ability to sleep comfortably at night.
@@mobius6772 I have a wife and kids so a long term simulated power outage is pretty hard to do with all the requirements of normal life. If it was just me at home, totally!
I am currently running my Ecoflow Delta Ultra with a reliance controls 10 circuit transfer switch and it's powering critical loads non stop. That test has been going for about 1.5 months now running 10 circuits. This setup does require a bit of solar and batteries but it's possible. I have about 20kwh of batteries and 2400 watts of solar. I see a constant load of about 500 watts. During the day it's no problem when the sun is shining. It's getting through the night and cloudy days that's difficult.
@@Jasonoid Sorry Jason I was a little vague, I was just interested in a setup that could run a inside (Fridge Freezer Combo) a (garage stand up freezer), and (a roll around AC unit) to sleep at night. All of this that could be recharged the next day from portable solar panels if it was a sunny day. I am new to solar and battery system so forgive my ignorance. These are all for emergencies to go 5-10 days without power.
@@mobius6772 I got lots of videos showing options that will work for you. An air conditioner is a large power consuming device so just be aware of that. One thing you could do is purchase a watt meter and track how many kilowatt hours each device pulls for 24 hours.