@@jurgisvalancauskas4006 Gene & Paul took it so seriously it drove 2 founding members out of the band. Not very clever business if you ask me. They lost a lot of "bread" once Peter & Ace left.
Gene and Paul created that band. It's their baby. The Shiite they went through to get a record deal is all them. No Gene/Paul, no concept of KISS. And personally, their music was at such at a High-school level they could have picked any guitarist to fill Ace's shoes. But once you have a fan base you are stuck with who you have.
@johnbeckwith1361 yet ace put out his album and it kept the kiss sound. Such a good one. Gene Paul struggled to keep that sound, and it hurt them. Ace was having fun. 😂
Especially at this particular time (early 80’s). The schtick had worn so thin. The public saw them as a relic of a bygone decade, and The Elder was their most recent album, and it was absolutely terrible. Ace was only fulfilling a contractual obligation here. He was so over it.
@@Shikta-poobah67 I've heard people online try to talk up The Elder saying it was unfairly hated so I gave it a listen and it sucks. WTF were they thinking?
@@MB-oc1nw Yeah, strangely enough there’s an actual fanbase for that steaming turd of an album. I don’t get it. I mean to each their own and all that… but as a 58 year old (today) who started getting into KISS right around the time of “Alive!” (the first one, ‘75), by the time they put out The Elder I was so done. I still love the early (pre-Destroyer) albums, and still at least like everything else up to “Alive!2”… but it got really hard to hang on after 1977. Especially after so many great new bands started popping up around that time that made KISS seem irrelevant and obsolete while they were releasing disco songs.
When this took place, Ace had already quit the band. Paul and Gene knew already. They asked Ace to be part of the promotion for the creatures album until they got a replacement. Plus, Kiss' contract with Polygram records was only with Paul, Gene and Ace. If any one of them quit or was fired, they were in breach of their recording deal. They didnt want the label to know for as long as possible that Ace quit. So as you can imagine, Ace didnt really care about giving a meaningful interview at this point. Paul and Gene had to deal with it and be nice or Ace would just get up and walk away. So now you have the added context behind this time of their career.
@@gmail4218 Like many have said about Paul and Gene, their egos and lack of respect for the people that made them who they became was a nightmare to deal with. Ace may have been drinking but it was probably the only way he could tolerate the two 24/7 10 months a year. Try living with two control freaks for 10 years and see how you do better. Also, Paul and Gene have talked crap about Eric and Bill Accoin and the owner of Casablanca records and on and on. I honeslty think those two dont know how to apprececiate what others have done for them. And lastly, Ace gave them their logo, the foundation for the make idea they all copied. The idea of silver and black costums. The smoking guitar (which is iconic) and Ace recorded the best Kiss solo album. Not bad for a 'knuckle head' as Gene calls him. Paul couldnt even think up a make design, Ace did it for him. So lets give credit where its due. Ace almost single handedly created the Kiss image.
Well, if you listen to the interviews and have kept up with the band, it is very obvious that Gene and Paul are definitely narcissists. If you want to believe they are not, that is cool.
Kiss fucking sucks. Sucked. Always did. They basically took advantage of the repression of the past and took on an "edgy" image during a time when people had more options (and post-war freedom) on the table than they had for a long time. Kiss was all about calculated timing. History has proven that they sucked. And the only people who disagree are the people who live for nostalgia, the people whose best years are behind them. How fucking tragic is that?
@@steves4533Anyone with even the slightest bit of taste, at least. However I’ve seen an alarming number of people licking Paul and Gene’s taints in these comments, so there’s definitely some haters out there.
Paul and Gene were a bunch of tight asses. Ace probably felt like he was in a band with his Mom and Dad. Alcohol and drugs were probably the only thing that kept him in the band as long as it did.
@@jean-pierrestraub7530 Did I mention his live performances? I honestly can't see where I did. I'm only able to see that I commented on his new album. Maybe my glasses are dirty? Or maybe your brain doesn't work very well?😆
@@michaeldique my brain works very well and so do my eyes. You said that Ace still made kick ass music today. So my question was right on point about Ace's music in 2024
Ace did this for them. He wasn't in the band anymore at this point. But showed up to keep the band safe from losing their recording deal. So at this point he didn't care what Paul and Gene thought.
I think he quit caring about what Paul and Gene thought some time between Rock & Roll Over and Love Gun. By this point he had to stay loaded 24-7 just to cope with the absurdity of it all. In the 70’s their schtick worked and they were making bank. However by this time, in the early 80’s, they were washed up and seen by most as a joke. The “we’re just four clowns in makeup” line is indicative of how Ace felt about things.
That's right. He was doing them a huge favor even though he was helping to buy them some time. Gene and Paul had nobody to blame but themselves once it became apparent to Polygram that Ace was gone. They were lucky that they didn't get dropped from the label altogether, it just cost them a hell of a lot of money. It's highly doubtful that any other label would've signed them.
The fact that they were taking any of this seriously at all, especially at this particular point in their career (early 80’s) is ridiculous enough. Obviously Ace was done taking it seriously. Honestly I don’t think he ever really took any of it seriously, but when the $$$ was rolling in I don’t think it mattered much. By this time though, the ship was sinking, and Ace just wanted off.
@@dhenderson1810 -- Any profession where you are earning serious money IS a serious job, dude. Entertainers are always looked down upon for their choice of profession, as if it's not "real.", and people think entertainers do their gigs "for fun" but if it's paying your rent and buying your food, then it's your JOB, and you need to take it .... SERIOUSLY.
@@DunmoresMovieMania I'd rather hang out with Ace then the two clowns that are all about the money and not so much the fans anymore. I loved Kiss growing up-my bedroom walls were PLASTERED with their posters. It was over for me when Peter and Ace were gone.
@DunmoresMovieMania If Kiss was first starting out, I’d probably agree with you. But by this point Kiss had sold millions or records, had toys, merchandising, and a damn Hannah Barbera movie. Ace for the longest time had zero convo in these interviews up until 1979 in the Tom Snyder interview, which is now considered to be one of the funniest Rock n Roll interviews. I understand that Ace’s drug and alcohol habits negatively effected his work ethic, but at the same time, Gene and Paul need to stop pretending every interview is a corporate meeting, that’s why people like entertainers, because they’re fun.
Ace is literally the only one who was on the level in that whole room. Paul and Gene shoveling all their “all about the fans” platitude bullsh*t..and then Ace dares have a sense of humor and shoot straight. If you can’t appreciate that, I can’t help you 😂
Ace was forced to do these promo interviews, so he did not care what he did or said because he did not want to be there. The interviewer kept asking Ace questions because he was funny and would said whatever he was thinking unlike Paul and Gene who gave the same response to a question everytime they were ever asked that question.
@@Rock4UNow I didn't say it did! I read in the autobiographies that it was around this moment Ace had checked out entirely. He said to Paul that if he hadn't left, he'd would have eventually killed himself.
@@mr.brenman2132 He's fulfilling the rest of his contract here for the 1982 Creatures of The Night promo shows in Europe. This is one of the last Ace appearances with KISS until 96. He definitely knew this was the end. He mentions playing on an upcoming US tour to the media, but it never would happen. He didn't even play on the album, Vinnie Vincent did as an "employee", not an official member. The whole interview is quite sad.
Paul and Gene wanted to be seen as serious musicians, while Ace, being the most talented, saw the hypocrisy in it all...And he was pretty f-in wasted in most interviews.
Yeah, the difference is that Ace is so talented and skilled that it was easy for him so he didn’t take it too seriously. Gene and Paul were barely qualified so they had to be very focused to have half a chance. The tragedy is that Gene and Paul let themselves be bothered by Ace and they were judgmental of him. You never hear the guys in Led Zeppelin complain about Bonham’s drinking, even though it killed him. Gene and Paul never learned live and let live.
Paul and Gene are immensely talented as well. Paul is one of the best frontmen ever and Gene just put it over the top as the Demon. His look, movements, stage presence are monstrous.
Heavy metal and hard rock were synonymous in the 70s. It's not until the 80s that the two terms came to refer to different genres. In the 70s AC/DC, Aerosmith, Kiss, Thin Lizzy, Nazareth, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Uriah Heep, Rush, Queen and other similar bands were often referred to as "heavy metal" just as much or as often as "hard rock".
@@Mark3-16 band was never the same or never as good without Peter & Ace... That is why they keep playing set lists with virtually ALL the songs from the original 4 including putting 2 goons in Peter & Ace's makeup...FACT!!!!
@@jmilne5751not true at all. They got fairly big again in the late eighties without ace. And thru the years played a lot of their new material mixed with their old.
Would've been hell for me..Ace didn't seem to know when to stop..shrill laugh like a girl,bad jokes..everything he said was supposed to be funny and end in a laugh...annoying..people that defend that obviously didn't have to sit for prolonged periods of time with someone like that
@@cornstar1253 Dude, this was their livelihood. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with taking that a little bit serious. I mean, if you would’ve been in kiss back then would you have made it out to be a big fucking joke? They wore theatrical make up, not clown make up. All that Paul and Gene were asking for from Ace was just a little bit of professionalism during interviews.
Ace was really annoying..embarrassingly bad quips/jokes that he thought were really rockstar cool..followed by his own shrill laughs..he was like a nerd trying to be cool among the cool guys lol
@@deanborges4622 He's the ultimate rockstar. Loved by guys like Slash and Dimebag. The rest of the rock community thinks Paul and Gene are d#ckheads. It's a fact. Gene sat in his room and read comic books while Ace gambled, crashed sports cars, drank and drugged, played smoking rocket guitars, hung out with John Belushi, etc. etc. What a nerd. 😆🤣
Ace is so funny and genuine. Gene doesn't drink and Paul is a drama queen. Together they make those four funny clowns in makeup a great dynamic. It's OK to not be perfect and goofy.
@@poliziagrammaticale9430 He knows what is, Paul was chasing trends. Heavy Metal was popular at the time with the youth so Kiss had to label themselves Heavy Metal (even going as far as ditching the make up and acting like a Hair Metal band). Same reason why they tried a Disco album and later in the 90's they tried briefly to be Grunge with Carnival of Souls. That was Paul's main issue as a musician, he didn't want to incorporatre new trends into the band, he wanted to be the new trend.
It was 1982/83....Van Halen, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, The Scorpions, Motley Crue, RATT and others were all beginning to dominate the US Charts. Kiss was running from a few past career moves: the solo albums, the tv movie, and the disco hit I Was Made For Lovin' You. Creatures Of The Night is still a good hard rock album, but it was largely ignored by record buyers at the time
Yeah, Creatures of the Night gave them a little booster shot that kept them on the hard rock radar for a few more months, but it was life support. I mean, obviously the band continued a long time afterward, but they were never the same band, or even the same KIND of band. They started to become a novelty/nostalgia act rather than a vital, important band pretty early. Oh, and when it comes to bad career moves, don't forget The Elder. As a kid I thought I would NEVER hate KISS. But, wow, I sure did after that album. Creatures of the Night gave me a little hope for a comeback, but then with Lick It Up they were back to crap. I can't remember if I even bought Animalize, but I for sure never bought a KISS album after that.
at this time KISS was its lowest point since their bar days on long island. which was quite a fall from grace. Ace was only contractually obligated (they literally begged him to do so and he agreed) to do the Creatures promo tour stuff. But ACE at this point did not GAF about KISS nor did they about him (other than keeping up the image that it was still 3 original members for sales purposes) Gene and Paul actively sabotaged KISS since 1978. Dynasty, Unmasked and The Elder for better or worse show how bad KISS is with Gene and Paul completely in charge. Ace wanted and was pushing for a heavier record after dynasty, and instead they put out Unmasked. still Ace wanted a return to roots album , and they put out The Elder. Gene and Paul are as much to blame for the demise of KISS as Ace and Peter's drug habits.
i agree, i love the elder. but it came after two very bad albums (when compared to their earlier success and quality) the elder would've been good if the Dynasty/Unmasked sound really got them multiplatinum sales. they were trying to imitate Styx and Foreigner at that point from 79-82 the "danger" of songs like deuce, god of thunder, love gun was totally gone by this point. @@eslwgpg1226
Stanley Bert Eisen (Queens, Nueva York, 20 de enero de 1952), más conocido como Paul Stanley, es un músico, cantante y pintor estadounidense, reconocido por ser la voz principal, guitarra rítmica y fundador junto a Gene Simmons de la banda de rock Kiss. Ha participado en la composición de la mayoría de los éxitos de la banda y, junto a Simmons, ha liderado a la agrupación durante sus cincuenta años de trayectoria. Su personaje representado en Kiss es The Starchild o El Chico Estrella. 72 AÑOS 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
That's just ace.hardly ever serious and then paul and gene polar opposite.its a wonder it lasted as long as it did.but the chemistry the original 4 had playing together was freaking awesome.
Agree but as I said up to alive 2 then the dopes came along for the party after the original started the legacy ..... All other kiss band members after ace and Peter left jumped on bandwagon and gene and Paul told them this is what we do and this is how we do it .....ace and Peter just said fuk it !!
@@Sinner666hell I'm a fan. Seen them live on many occasions and love their music. Happy to stand by my comment and equally happy to have had the life I've had thanks 😊
@@ltjoseph9042 unpretentious, guitar driven, hard rock (with little or no blues influence) that places artistry and authenticity above radio friendly, overproduced, cookie cutter, mainstream fluff. Kiss is Glam Rock with makeup.
@@joelperry8187 I'm a metal guitarplayer and here's the thing: Poison, Motley Crue, Judas Priest, Aerosmith, they are considered to be commercial heavymetal. They are smart enough to be radio friendly but are also heavymetal bands.
@@ltjoseph9042 Priest is Metal. Poison is “Hair Metal” a sub genre of HM. Aerosmith is hard rock. Look, I’m not gonna debate you on this but I would not classify Kiss as a Heavy Metal band anymore than I would classify Zeppelin as a HM band.
I outgrew Kiss when I was 15. Their music absolutely sucked compared to other WAY better bands at the time like Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Rush, Led Zeppelin, Judas Priest, AC/DC, Deep Purple, etc.
Ace was already out of the band at this point and its clearly obvious. The promotion tour he did with the band in 1982 was a contractual obligation and just for show. In 1980 this kind of interview was all fun and games (the Countdown tv show) but by 1982 Ace had deteriorated even further and no one thought this was fun anymore.
Making them feel uncomfortable was the only way Ace could get back at Paul and Gene for fleecing him all those years Paul and Gene were also jealous of Ace’s popularity…
Paul Daniel Frehley, más conocido como Ace Frehley (n. Nueva York, Estados Unidos, 27 de abril de 1951), es un músico estadounidense célebre por haber sido el guitarrista y uno de los fundadores del grupo Kiss. Junto a Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley y Peter Criss, Frehley formó la mencionada banda en 1973 y asumió en ella la personalidad de «Space Ace» o «Spaceman», debido a su afición por la astronomía y los ovnis. Con el álbum Love Gun de 1977, el músico se estrenó como vocalista y al año siguiente publicó su debut homónimo en solitario, puesto a la venta el mismo día que el de sus compañeros de banda. Tras grabar nueve álbumes de estudio con Kiss, el guitarrista abandonó la formación en 1982 para embarcarse en su carrera en solitario y trabajar en el proyecto Frehley's Comet. 72 AÑOS. (73) 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
I didn’t expect to hear them talk about Pearl Harbor and The Explosions. I want to see more of this interview now. What an obscure band to hear in a Kiss interview.
"without our fans we're four clowns with makeup. " classic Ace
that was f'ing great, brutal honesty and hilarious at the same time.
💯 true. Sometimes honesty is brutal.
Well, he's right.
Love the interview where Paul says fans with tears and Ace says their crying because the blew $50 on a ticket. Paul and Gene pissed. Legend Ace.😂
Ich bin so traurig dass ihr aufhört
Ace is correct, 4 Clowns in makeup. Yet Paul & Gene took it totally seriously
It's their business and "bread". Sure they took it seriously.
@@jurgisvalancauskas4006 Gene & Paul took it so seriously it drove 2 founding members out of the band. Not very clever business if you ask me. They lost a lot of "bread" once Peter & Ace left.
Gene and Paul created that band. It's their baby. The Shiite they went through to get a record deal is all them. No Gene/Paul, no concept of KISS. And personally, their music was at such at a High-school level they could have picked any guitarist to fill Ace's shoes. But once you have a fan base you are stuck with who you have.
They kept it going for fifty years and ended up as multi millionaires.
Ace and Peter? Well ............
@johnbeckwith1361 yet ace put out his album and it kept the kiss sound. Such a good one. Gene Paul struggled to keep that sound, and it hurt them. Ace was having fun. 😂
nobody:
ace: HERE'S MY POPEYE IMITATION
It was pretty good though lol
I like how Ace knew he was a character and Paul is just himself and Gene talks like a politician in Demon makeup and costume.
I’d be drunk or high all the time too if I had to be around Gene and Paul that much.
Ya of course you would, thats why you’re still stuck in your mommy’s basement commenting on here.
Especially at this particular time (early 80’s). The schtick had worn so thin. The public saw them as a relic of a bygone decade, and The Elder was their most recent album, and it was absolutely terrible. Ace was only fulfilling a contractual obligation here. He was so over it.
@@Shikta-poobah67 I've heard people online try to talk up The Elder saying it was unfairly hated so I gave it a listen and it sucks. WTF were they thinking?
@@MB-oc1nw Yeah, strangely enough there’s an actual fanbase for that steaming turd of an album. I don’t get it. I mean to each their own and all that… but as a 58 year old (today) who started getting into KISS right around the time of “Alive!” (the first one, ‘75), by the time they put out The Elder I was so done. I still love the early (pre-Destroyer) albums, and still at least like everything else up to “Alive!2”… but it got really hard to hang on after 1977. Especially after so many great new bands started popping up around that time that made KISS seem irrelevant and obsolete while they were releasing disco songs.
Gene's actually a pretty nice guy. Never interacted with anyone else in the band so i couldn't say about the rest of them
When this took place, Ace had already quit the band. Paul and Gene knew already. They asked Ace to be part of the promotion for the creatures album until they got a replacement. Plus, Kiss' contract with Polygram records was only with Paul, Gene and Ace. If any one of them quit or was fired, they were in breach of their recording deal. They didnt want the label to know for as long as possible that Ace quit. So as you can imagine, Ace didnt really care about giving a meaningful interview at this point. Paul and Gene had to deal with it and be nice or Ace would just get up and walk away.
So now you have the added context behind this time of their career.
Paul later said that he was upset about Ace being drunk during interviews. Very unprofessional.
@@gmail4218 Like many have said about Paul and Gene, their egos and lack of respect for the people that made them who they became was a nightmare to deal with. Ace may have been drinking but it was probably the only way he could tolerate the two 24/7 10 months a year. Try living with two control freaks for 10 years and see how you do better. Also, Paul and Gene have talked crap about Eric and Bill Accoin and the owner of Casablanca records and on and on. I honeslty think those two dont know how to apprececiate what others have done for them.
And lastly, Ace gave them their logo, the foundation for the make idea they all copied. The idea of silver and black costums. The smoking guitar (which is iconic) and Ace recorded the best Kiss solo album. Not bad for a 'knuckle head' as Gene calls him. Paul couldnt even think up a make design, Ace did it for him. So lets give credit where its due. Ace almost single handedly created the Kiss image.
@@gmail4218Well, Paul is a bisexual weirdo. Ace Frehley carried KISS.
Bla bla bla facts.
Yeah Ace is absolutely hammered. Dude just wasn't reliable as a professional musician.
Paul looks like Bea Arther
Hahaha 🤣... that was good!
🎶Lady Godiva was a freedom fighter🎶
Bea is more masculine.
@@Shikta-poobah67🎶And then there’s Paul🎶
Paul is the Queen of the Nightime World……
Narcissists don't like any jokes, unless it is their own.
Well, if you listen to the interviews and have kept up with the band, it is very obvious that Gene and Paul are definitely narcissists. If you want to believe they are not, that is cool.
I couldn't have said it better
@ShenandoahTillett-ql3dflol they are jokes
@ShenandoahTillett-ql3dfPaul is a classic example, cmon now
Kiss fucking sucks. Sucked. Always did. They basically took advantage of the repression of the past and took on an "edgy" image during a time when people had more options (and post-war freedom) on the table than they had for a long time. Kiss was all about calculated timing. History has proven that they sucked.
And the only people who disagree are the people who live for nostalgia, the people whose best years are behind them. How fucking tragic is that?
Ace has always been my favorite
Ace is everybody's favorite.
@@steves4533For good reason
@@steves4533Anyone with even the slightest bit of taste, at least. However I’ve seen an alarming number of people licking Paul and Gene’s taints in these comments, so there’s definitely some haters out there.
I wanted to be Starchild so bad growing up. Luckily when I grew up, I made the right choice.
You, me and millions of others.
Paul and Gene were a bunch of tight asses. Ace probably felt like he was in a band with his Mom and Dad. Alcohol and drugs were probably the only thing that kept him in the band as long as it did.
accurate
Perfect.🙌🏼
Nailed it!
Being intoxicated is probably the best way to tolerate their bullshit... lmao
And those same alcohol and drugs is why he's not in it anymore.
Love it when Ace makes them feel uncomfortable in interviews 😂
Congrats to Space Ace for his hot new single 10,000 Volts and his upcoming album. At least one KISS member still makes kick ass music! 👍
It sucks , just like you.
Funny how Ace is out lasting the rest….the real thing!
Have you heard him live lately?
@@jean-pierrestraub7530 Did I mention his live performances? I honestly can't see where I did. I'm only able to see that I commented on his new album. Maybe my glasses are dirty? Or maybe your brain doesn't work very well?😆
@@michaeldique my brain works very well and so do my eyes. You said that Ace still made kick ass music today. So my question was right on point about Ace's music in 2024
We love you Ace. You are grateful, and present the truth, and you are a superb guitarist
Thanks ACE
Ace did this for them. He wasn't in the band anymore at this point. But showed up to keep the band safe from losing their recording deal. So at this point he didn't care what Paul and Gene thought.
I think he quit caring about what Paul and Gene thought some time between Rock & Roll Over and Love Gun. By this point he had to stay loaded 24-7 just to cope with the absurdity of it all.
In the 70’s their schtick worked and they were making bank. However by this time, in the early 80’s, they were washed up and seen by most as a joke. The “we’re just four clowns in makeup” line is indicative of how Ace felt about things.
That's right. He was doing them a huge favor even though he was helping to buy them some time.
Gene and Paul had nobody to blame but themselves once it became apparent to Polygram that Ace was gone. They were lucky that they didn't get dropped from the label altogether, it just cost them a hell of a lot of money. It's highly doubtful that any other label would've signed them.
Can you tell me the title of the video?
No. He did it because of contracts.
Paul looks a bit like Bea Arthur reacting to Rose in a Golden Girls episode at 1:39
This is spot on and should be top comment.
Bea Arthur sounds like a bitch.
Well if Rose wasn’t so zany all the time, Dorothy wouldn’t have to make that face.
HAHAHA
"....just four clowns in makeup."
He could’t have been more correct😅
Talentless hacks that needed flash, bang, fire, lights, rising stages, makeup anything to distract everyone from the crap coming out of the speakers.
Ace was just in it for the fun. Gene and Paul were so serious trying to build a business and a brand. Ace just wanted to play guitar and party.
Love these classics. RIP Eric Carr. Passed away the same day as Freddie Mercury 🙏❤️
That's a huge coincidence
They took themselves way too seriously back then
.Ace was a breath of fresh air when he was in the band ..
The fact that they were taking any of this seriously at all, especially at this particular point in their career (early 80’s) is ridiculous enough. Obviously Ace was done taking it seriously. Honestly I don’t think he ever really took any of it seriously, but when the $$$ was rolling in I don’t think it mattered much. By this time though, the ship was sinking, and Ace just wanted off.
Sex, drugs and rock n roll ace, party on. Gene and Paul are babies.
Babies that have done more than you ever will in your entire pathetic life.
@@Sinner666hell😭
1:15 best ace laugh ever
Ace is the best! Love the laugh and how light hearted he is.
Okay, YOU hang out with him for ten years and try to do the serious job of earning money in an international rock band.
@@DunmoresMovieMania Being a rocker isn't exactly a serious job though.
It is like saying being an influencer is a serious job.
@@dhenderson1810 -- Any profession where you are earning serious money IS a serious job, dude. Entertainers are always looked down upon for their choice of profession, as if it's not "real.", and people think entertainers do their gigs "for fun" but if it's paying your rent and buying your food, then it's your JOB, and you need to take it .... SERIOUSLY.
@@DunmoresMovieMania I'd rather hang out with Ace then the two clowns that are all about the money and not so much the fans anymore. I loved Kiss growing up-my bedroom walls were PLASTERED with their posters. It was over for me when Peter and Ace were gone.
@DunmoresMovieMania If Kiss was first starting out, I’d probably agree with you. But by this point Kiss had sold millions or records, had toys, merchandising, and a damn Hannah Barbera movie. Ace for the longest time had zero convo in these interviews up until 1979 in the Tom Snyder interview, which is now considered to be one of the funniest Rock n Roll interviews. I understand that Ace’s drug and alcohol habits negatively effected his work ethic, but at the same time, Gene and Paul need to stop pretending every interview is a corporate meeting, that’s why people like entertainers, because they’re fun.
Ace was a space comedian
'We're a heavy metal band'!
🤣🤣🤣
😂 lol 😂
He stated the truth, finally, "four clowns in make-up." Thank you.
Ace would’ve made a perfect Joker..
Every time Ace talks Paul dies inside…reminds me of me and my mom. 💀
Ace is literally the only one who was on the level in that whole room. Paul and Gene shoveling all their “all about the fans” platitude bullsh*t..and then Ace dares have a sense of humor and shoot straight. If you can’t appreciate that, I can’t help you 😂
The biggest downfall for KISS was Gene and Paul's malignant narcissism
Fact is they couldn't handle ace s alcohol abuse
@@jerrywoods4066 No more abusive than 90% of rockers in the 70s. They’re are and were just fragile.
@@ufmwc ace was completely out of control. That's why he got booted.
@@jerrywoods4066 He quit. It is documented. P&Gs egotism could drive any man to drink.
The biggest joke is when Paul said they were a Heavy Metal band 😂
Right. There's no shame in being glam rock.
Disco metal is more like it.
@@dlwhite6537They weren’t anything near disco till Dynasty
sure are: a heavy metal band (that doesn't mind venturing into the world of disco)
More like fake rock band who cant perform without backing tracks..
Irony: Ace is still going and those two clown boys are done. Who was the alcoholic? Who was the drug user? And he's still going?
Going where?
They all look like they just lost the World Cup final lol
Paul, "But this is all about me. I'm the popular one. Me me me!"
Three clowns and one cool comedian. CHEERS ACE
1:29 "I look in the mirror" LMAO! Love Eric, he's always been my favorite goofball🥰
I'm back back in the New York groove
Ace was forced to do these promo interviews, so he did not care what he did or said because he did not want to be there. The interviewer kept asking Ace questions because he was funny and would said whatever he was thinking unlike Paul and Gene who gave the same response to a question everytime they were ever asked that question.
He wasn't even in the band anymore at this point. Ace was about to have a nervous breakdown.
@@ReeseChown That stuff has nothing to do with the interview.
@@Rock4UNow I didn't say it did! I read in the autobiographies that it was around this moment Ace had checked out entirely. He said to Paul that if he hadn't left, he'd would have eventually killed himself.
@@ReeseChownIf he wasn't in the band he wouldn't have been in makeup.
@@mr.brenman2132 He's fulfilling the rest of his contract here for the 1982 Creatures of The Night promo shows in Europe. This is one of the last Ace appearances with KISS until 96.
He definitely knew this was the end. He mentions playing on an upcoming US tour to the media, but it never would happen. He didn't even play on the album, Vinnie Vincent did as an "employee", not an official member. The whole interview is quite sad.
0:12 In all seriousness, this is the first time I've ever heard Paul confirm that Kiss was a metal band.
Paul and Gene wanted to be seen as serious musicians, while Ace, being the most talented, saw the hypocrisy in it all...And he was pretty f-in wasted in most interviews.
BINGO🙏🏻
Gene is so pissed off yu can see the steam come out of his mouth like the fire breathing Demon. Paul goes alone, But is very annoyed
Yeah, the difference is that Ace is so talented and skilled that it was easy for him so he didn’t take it too seriously. Gene and Paul were barely qualified so they had to be very focused to have half a chance. The tragedy is that Gene and Paul let themselves be bothered by Ace and they were judgmental of him. You never hear the guys in Led Zeppelin complain about Bonham’s drinking, even though it killed him. Gene and Paul never learned live and let live.
Paul and Gene are immensely talented as well. Paul is one of the best frontmen ever and Gene just put it over the top as the Demon. His look, movements, stage presence are monstrous.
Serious wearing makeup. You must be a dork!
Heavy metal no, hard rock yes
Yeah, I caught that too. KISS isn’t metal. Motörhead, AC/DC, and Black Sabbath were heavy metal at this time. KISS was more glam rock.
Heavy metal and hard rock were synonymous in the 70s. It's not until the 80s that the two terms came to refer to different genres.
In the 70s AC/DC, Aerosmith, Kiss, Thin Lizzy, Nazareth, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Uriah Heep, Rush, Queen and other similar bands were often referred to as "heavy metal" just as much or as often as "hard rock".
CREATURES OF THE NIGHT IS metal, also animalize, etc
You don't know what heavy metal is.@@Emi4Rock
Who cares bro
He knew he was leaving the band at this point
@@Mark3-16 band was never the same or never as good without Peter & Ace... That is why they keep playing set lists with virtually ALL the songs from the original 4 including putting 2 goons in Peter & Ace's makeup...FACT!!!!
@@Mark3-16Why did they have a guy dressed as him playing his dogs for the last 20 years. More like the control freaks needed full control.
@@jmilne5751 The biggest downfall for KISS was Gene and Paul's malignant narcissism
@@jmilne5751not true at all. They got fairly big again in the late eighties without ace. And thru the years played a lot of their new material mixed with their old.
He didn’t know what day it was at this point.
Can you imagine being stuck in the car for miles on end with Ace when they first started touring.
*Yikes!*
They probably didn't mind it as much, but Ace was supposed to be in promo mode during these interviews, not "goofing around with your buddies" mode
Aye but gene and Paul tried to be the sophisticated ones boring farts bet ace and Peter were great to have a beer with
I'd rather be with him than with Paul and Gene
Would've been hell for me..Ace didn't seem to know when to stop..shrill laugh like a girl,bad jokes..everything he said was supposed to be funny and end in a laugh...annoying..people that defend that obviously didn't have to sit for prolonged periods of time with someone like that
I can see why a decade of this would get on Paul's nerves...LOL
I can see how a decade of listening to Paul and Gene's black tar bullsh#t would get on your nerves.
A guy in clown makeup, and high heels being so serious is cringe.
@@cornstar1253 Dude, this was their livelihood. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with taking that a little bit serious. I mean, if you would’ve been in kiss back then would you have made it out to be a big fucking joke? They wore theatrical make up, not clown make up. All that Paul and Gene were asking for from Ace was just a little bit of professionalism during interviews.
Ace was really annoying..embarrassingly bad quips/jokes that he thought were really rockstar cool..followed by his own shrill laughs..he was like a nerd trying to be cool among the cool guys lol
@@deanborges4622 He's the ultimate rockstar. Loved by guys like Slash and Dimebag. The rest of the rock community thinks Paul and Gene are d#ckheads. It's a fact. Gene sat in his room and read comic books while Ace gambled, crashed sports cars, drank and drugged, played smoking rocket guitars, hung out with John Belushi, etc. etc. What a nerd. 😆🤣
Ace is so funny and genuine. Gene doesn't drink and Paul is a drama queen. Together they make those four funny clowns in makeup a great dynamic. It's OK to not be perfect and goofy.
The four clowns in makeup crack was funny.
It must Piss Paul and Gene off At how well Ace's solo Album did. 3 complete duds and than Ace had a solo Album that blew Em out of the water.
Working Paul must’ve been a complete pain in the ass
@user-pv8jy1nt8f still a pain in the arse
i wake up in the morning, i brush my teeth 🤣🤣🤣🤣
....Did Paul Stanley just refer to KISS as a "heavy metal band"..?
😂 Yes 😂😂😂
He has no idea what heavy metal is.
@@poliziagrammaticale9430 He knows what is, Paul was chasing trends. Heavy Metal was popular at the time with the youth so Kiss had to label themselves Heavy Metal (even going as far as ditching the make up and acting like a Hair Metal band). Same reason why they tried a Disco album and later in the 90's they tried briefly to be Grunge with Carnival of Souls. That was Paul's main issue as a musician, he didn't want to incorporatre new trends into the band, he wanted to be the new trend.
Man...This lineup should have stayed FOREVER!!!
KILLER!!
It was 1982/83....Van Halen, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, AC/DC, The Scorpions, Motley Crue, RATT and others were all beginning to dominate the US Charts.
Kiss was running from a few past career moves: the solo albums, the tv movie, and the disco hit I Was Made For Lovin' You.
Creatures Of The Night is still a good hard rock album, but it was largely ignored by record buyers at the time
Yeah, Creatures of the Night gave them a little booster shot that kept them on the hard rock radar for a few more months, but it was life support. I mean, obviously the band continued a long time afterward, but they were never the same band, or even the same KIND of band. They started to become a novelty/nostalgia act rather than a vital, important band pretty early.
Oh, and when it comes to bad career moves, don't forget The Elder. As a kid I thought I would NEVER hate KISS. But, wow, I sure did after that album. Creatures of the Night gave me a little hope for a comeback, but then with Lick It Up they were back to crap. I can't remember if I even bought Animalize, but I for sure never bought a KISS album after that.
@@nunyabidness4220 IMO "Unmasked" was their best album.
@@dhenderson1810 I disagree, but, I'm glad you like it. Tastes can differ! :)
at this time KISS was its lowest point since their bar days on long island. which was quite a fall from grace.
Ace was only contractually obligated (they literally begged him to do so and he agreed) to do the Creatures promo tour stuff.
But ACE at this point did not GAF about KISS nor did they about him (other than keeping up the image that it was still 3 original members for sales purposes)
Gene and Paul actively sabotaged KISS since 1978. Dynasty, Unmasked and The Elder for better or worse show how bad KISS is with Gene and Paul completely in charge. Ace wanted and was pushing for a heavier record after dynasty, and instead they put out Unmasked. still Ace wanted a return to roots album , and they put out The Elder.
Gene and Paul are as much to blame for the demise of KISS as Ace and Peter's drug habits.
The Elder was actually a very good album though
i agree, i love the elder. but it came after two very bad albums (when compared to their earlier success and quality) the elder would've been good if the Dynasty/Unmasked sound really got them multiplatinum sales. they were trying to imitate Styx and Foreigner at that point from 79-82 the "danger" of songs like deuce, god of thunder, love gun was totally gone by this point.
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@@eslwgpg1226KISS themselves now say that they hate it.
@@dhenderson1810 that means absolutely nothing to me
I never quite understood Geddy Lee's impersonation of Ace until I watched this video. Now I see how accurate it was.
Stanley Bert Eisen (Queens, Nueva York, 20 de enero de 1952), más conocido como Paul Stanley, es un músico, cantante y pintor estadounidense, reconocido por ser la voz principal, guitarra rítmica y fundador junto a Gene Simmons de la banda de rock Kiss. Ha participado en la composición de la mayoría de los éxitos de la banda y, junto a Simmons, ha liderado a la agrupación durante sus cincuenta años de trayectoria. Su personaje representado en Kiss es The Starchild o El Chico Estrella.
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That is why Ace is the man!
And you’re not.
Ace was my fav. When he left, kiss was over in my eyes
Paul's always been a stick in the mud. No sense of humor whatsoever.
The second Paul tried to make Ace look dumb by correcting his use of "emulate", Ace was like fuck this guy I'm going all in. Hilarious.
theres no way ace knew where or who he was during this
He's not that out of it buddy.
Lmao
Look its rock n roll. Who cares that's rock
STONED! This is the exact reason why I fucking hate drugs - especially marijuana! It makes you stupid and smells like shit.
Your stupid. He is just having fun and not a stick up his ass like Paul and Gene.
"Heavy metal band"
That's just ace.hardly ever serious and then paul and gene polar opposite.its a wonder it lasted as long as it did.but the chemistry the original 4 had playing together was freaking awesome.
Agree but as I said up to alive 2 then the dopes came along for the party after the original started the legacy ..... All other kiss band members after ace and Peter left jumped on bandwagon and gene and Paul told them this is what we do and this is how we do it .....ace and Peter just said fuk it !!
I would love to have heard Ace on Creatures.
imagine having a time machine and send slip knot back to greet kiss....their jaws would hit the floor
That’s weird. Did your pill roll under the fridge this morning or something?
I like how Carr is constantly fiddling with his ridiculous jacket (?)/shirt (?).
Ace is the only one with a brain. Ace Frehley, lead guitar!
If only he would have used his brain
"Where would we be without our fans? Just four clowns in makeup." 😂
Nahhh actually there was only one clown
Gracious Eric sits there not speaking unless spoken to
He was hired to do the drumming, not talk.
Because that's why Peter and ace left ...it's like oi sit there shut the fuk up gene and Paul are the boss's you sit there !!
Most likely it's because he couldn't string a sentence together.
He wasn’t in the band for long at this point and he was probably thinking “what the hell did I get myself into?”
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 That plays to how Paul and Gene saw themselves as the bosses and the other band members as "indentured servants".
Yeah Paul looked so pissed off with Ace's remarks.
Serious Faces of Paul & Gene... Ace having fun & that is why he was getting asked the questions... Paul all corporate as usual..
Imagine sitting there looking like that and actually expecting to be taken seriously 😂 that room can barely contain Paul and Gene's egos
They were taken very seriously. They were huge and made millions. Unlike you.
@@Sinner666hell I'm a fan. Seen them live on many occasions and love their music. Happy to stand by my comment and equally happy to have had the life I've had thanks 😊
Define Heavy Metal , Paul
Why don't you define
heavymetal, Joel?
@@ltjoseph9042 unpretentious, guitar driven, hard rock (with little or no blues influence) that places artistry and authenticity above radio friendly, overproduced, cookie cutter, mainstream fluff. Kiss is Glam Rock with makeup.
@@joelperry8187
I'm a metal guitarplayer and
here's the thing: Poison,
Motley Crue, Judas Priest,
Aerosmith, they are considered
to be commercial heavymetal.
They are smart enough to be
radio friendly but are also
heavymetal bands.
@@ltjoseph9042 Priest is Metal. Poison is “Hair Metal” a sub genre of HM. Aerosmith is hard rock. Look, I’m not gonna debate you on this but I would not classify Kiss as a Heavy Metal band anymore than I would classify Zeppelin as a HM band.
@@ltjoseph9042no they're not hard rock at best hair metal glam band
No Ace, no Kiss.
Ace is the only one who doesn't look bored.
Ace just was too much...funny guy effin with those two lol
Ace came over to my dad's house once for us to jump his space ship,his battery was dead
They knew he was drunken wild card…uncomfortable
I outgrew Kiss when I was 15. Their music absolutely sucked compared to other WAY better bands at the time like Black Sabbath, Pink Floyd, Rush, Led Zeppelin, Judas Priest, AC/DC, Deep Purple, etc.
Exactly
Ace was definitely the life of the party. Then again, not everyone is a happy drunk... Ace was and I liked it.
It is funny and awkward at the same time. I love Ace but you can clearly see his disfunction
What is his major disfunction?
@@v4v819He was deep in the thoroughs of drug addiction at the time.
You just described every great rock and roller . They're a little funny in an awkwardly disfunctional way .
He didnt wanted to be in KISS anymore... Who would? Creatures of the Night, the song was the last thing they did good until 1985.
No no, Ace could clearly see KISS’s disfunction
At the end where the interviewer said “pearl harbor and the explosions” Ace was probably thinking “what a shitty band name” 🤣🤣🤣
*Popeye imitation
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any time the attention was on someone else Paul and Gene cried about it
Pearl Harbor and the Explosions is an absurd name conjuring up images of angry Japanese players, no wonder Ace creased up.
Ace was already out of the band at this point and its clearly obvious.
The promotion tour he did with the band in 1982 was a contractual obligation and just for show.
In 1980 this kind of interview was all fun and games (the Countdown tv show) but by 1982 Ace had deteriorated even further and no one thought this was fun anymore.
Ace Frehley keeping it real!
Dom andra är k**k sugare...
"I'll give ya a P&L Statement" 😂👏👏👏
Making them feel uncomfortable was the only way Ace could get back at Paul and Gene for fleecing him all those years
Paul and Gene were also jealous of Ace’s popularity…
Are you fucking kidding , without Gene and Paul he’d be nothing. He was fucking drunk all the time acting like an idiot.
Ace was a doll! Even when his hair was shorter, he was still a doll
Probably the most sober Ace has ever been😅
I love how Ace is just Christopher Walken with make up!
Ace has more musical talent in his pinky finger than Paul and Gene combined. Kiss was never good after Ace Frehley!
That speaks volumes.
Paul Daniel Frehley, más conocido como Ace Frehley (n. Nueva York, Estados Unidos, 27 de abril de 1951), es un músico estadounidense célebre por haber sido el guitarrista y uno de los fundadores del grupo Kiss. Junto a Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley y Peter Criss, Frehley formó la mencionada banda en 1973 y asumió en ella la personalidad de «Space Ace» o «Spaceman», debido a su afición por la astronomía y los ovnis. Con el álbum Love Gun de 1977, el músico se estrenó como vocalista y al año siguiente publicó su debut homónimo en solitario, puesto a la venta el mismo día que el de sus compañeros de banda. Tras grabar nueve álbumes de estudio con Kiss, el guitarrista abandonó la formación en 1982 para embarcarse en su carrera en solitario y trabajar en el proyecto Frehley's Comet.
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Ace was the greatest part of Kiss...🤘🤘🤘
He was also a drunken, lazy piece of shit and they'd have been ruined if they kept him around.
I didn’t expect to hear them talk about Pearl Harbor and The Explosions. I want to see more of this interview now. What an obscure band to hear in a Kiss interview.
How could they even begin to take themselves seriously wearing that? What a joke Ace was right
I thought Gene was sitting on a toilet.
Ace is just being legit rock n roll.
I love Ace! He & Peter were my favorites!
Ace was tired of being in KISS. He did his way, its a better choice than being where you're no longer feeling good.
Ace rules. Everyone loves Aces. Except Paul and Gene.
He always had the best makeup.