I really want to keep the pedal side operating. So it looks like i will have to look at other bike frames instead of Schwinn. Thanks for the explanation of your build.
@@TexasNEV i know, i have the kit. But it looks like the crank sprocket would be in the way of the engine. Unless i make the crank sprocket super tiny..
I have 2 of those OCC bikes and i guess i should publish my videos. Im putting 4 stroke 110cc in mine I had some issues too but I solved them today with some not so safe grinding. Nice work.
Thanks! The big huge giant deal that I'm dealing with now is MASSIVE chain vibrations, even with a tensioner I can't keep the chain on, (and it is aligned perfectly and tight).
@@minecraftblockychris8708 Thx for that.. I've actually been using a sprocket roller tensioner. The real solution ended up me changing the chain. I didn't use the 415H chain that came w/ the conversion kit and just reused the regular single speed 410 chain that was on the bike. The pitch is the same and it fit fine but the chain is so light it was whipping and vibrating all over the place. Once I changed it to the 415H chain, the problem went away. Go figure.
Very cool! I enjoyed seeing how you overcame the various hurdles. My brother had a similar bike back in the day called the "Big Mo", (non motorized). I'm just getting into building motorized bicycles myself and am about to start my first build soon enough so it's great learning about all the different builds on YT and seeing what products and techniques I can incorporate into my own build. I just ordered a Micargi Rover Nx3 in metallic olive green as my base. Super nice bike. Can't wait for it to get here! I'm gonna shoot for a GX120 clone engine and a 30 series CVT with a 32 tooth sprocket. Should be a sweet ride when it's done. Anyway, that was a great video. Thanks!
Nice! Have fun and be careful! That was my only gas project, everything else is all electric stuff that can hit in the low 60's. We're in an HOA so I am mindful of noise, etc, plus, gas isn't my forte, I'm an EE so all things electric / electronic is my gig. :)
Yeah I had seen that elsewhere so when I took off the cranks, I set them back in so they didn't oppose each other tack welded them in place, and viola! Foot pegs!
We had one like that as well, but it was in poor shape. We came across this black one in excellent condition.. So we sold the red one so it all worked out. :)
Good observation. Since it is spinning in the opposite direction, it wants to spin off.. Soo I had to drill through and put a lock nut on the rim to keep it from doing that.
They make a drum brakes for bicycles I just discovered these they actually work quite well better than disc brakes I've never had a problem with them but I can tell you stories on the disc brakes.
There's a guy from like pedalchopper who sells whole kits for these that do work but they are spendy. Good job getting this to work for you, lots of work but nothing worthwhile is ever easy.
I asked that guy two questions about two upgrades I intend to do on my Schwinn Stingray bike and by way of an answer, I got the following: "I can't help you with that." I guess he took me for a spy trying to steal his trade secrets.
Perhaps you can bend some metal brackets, use some self tapping screws into the frame or something.. Not sure.. Probably best to see if you can make the metal parts you need, get them placed where you need them and then just go to a muffler shop and have them weld whatever it is you need.
I have a red one like that on my channel but I'm trying to put a two-stroke not a four stroke on it and I'm telling you if you had problems with four stroke you'll understand the problems I'm having with a two-stroke.
@@LillysSquad I put in the 49cc 4 stroke but if you put in an 80 two stroke it should giddy up and go w/o needing to pedal but that's just my guess. I'm not really a gas-engine guy.. Most of my videos are all electric conversions.
It was just the one off Amazon. It looks great and the size of the motor is to scale on the bike size but it's just not enough power for use from a a dead stop. If that's not an issue then go for it. :) Could be an excellent e-bike conversion (which is what I normally do). There's some 80cc conversions out there and even a few Harbor freight predator 212's that people have done.
@@TexasNEV I will but I have no idea how. I'm in Houston. My channel is saddletramp1200 I have my 79cc 4 stroke bike in one. I am the real deal too. Tell me how. I'm 67 and a pretty sharp old fart.🤣
Once I changed to 415H from 410, the chain problems went away.. Pretty much good to go.. Plus I have a small supply of 20x4 fat bike knobby tread rear tires for sale on e-bay as well. traderrje is my e-bay seller name.. I only have 7 left.
Get the 3 bladed one with the RED compound. The stock one won't last (3 blade w/ black compound) and the 4 bladed w/ red compound is way too much chatter and vibration as that one is for 2 strokes..
@@maxblack8397 Not handy, that was a couple years ago, but they're on ebay, just search for 49cc clutch. This motor used the tapered shaft. I liked the 3 vane/ blade clutch w/ the reddish / brownish compound. not the black / grey.
LA LA LA (plugging ears).. Delete delete delete.. Hope my 12 year old doesn't read this! LOL.. Umm.. no I haven't.. (It's on my list but had to work through the melting clutch issues).. RED COMPOUND CLUTCH rocks.. All others, disposable after a day..
@@TexasNEV lmao fair enough. I was so mad when I first got my motor and realized why I had no power. I've gotten mine with some other mods up to 37 on flat ground.
@@TexasNEV there only 30 to 90 bucks . Seriously I put that engine on your frame using a mini bike transmission. For ur son's safety change out the tranny the original is a single chain and will brake,both mine did the shaft over heats and locks up ,the transmission literally folds in half ripping apart because the engine produces 2footlbs of torque at clutch engagement speed 2600 to 3000 rpm. A 48 tooth sprocket takes load off ur transmission it's top end is 43mph ,it is,lol ur bike now does 38mph out the box ,it really does.ive built 5 of em. There's hundreds of videos project farm testing of ur engine is spot on. Please use a 48 or 50 tooth sprocket on the bike it will almost pull wheelies if u do. And they do get 50 miles per tank full ,1 dollar lol fills it up .38 gallon tank is on that bike. Ps get a tac that engine turns 8500 ,stock 7200 underload with 44 tooth gear . Believe it or not that's a Honda 50 cc clone on ur bike that engine came on the Honda cub that did 45mph. Ur engine produces 4.2 Hp at 8500 rpm it really does. The right gear would bring that engine to life.
U actually made a mini motorcycle. My 49cc four stroke does 48mph 8400 rpm up hills . I have a dual chain 5 to 1 transmission,420 chain 28tooth sprocket on 26 inch rims . Ur transmission is 3 to 1 ,it jerky on take off because of this . If u change to a 48 tooth ur bike will actually have a higher top speed and be quicker on take off, because ur rpm will be higher creating more hp . Ur bike will climb any hill also .plus less wear on ur clutch.
sorry bud... cant hold a candle to mine... custom motor mounts, 24in rear... Ill have a glamor shot vid once I get it just quite right... lmk what you think so far on my channel though
@@deathwaiting9931 Nope. These engines are not designed for dead start applications or heavy loads.. Even with a kid riding, it's best to get moving by your feet first otherwise your clutch will last a day or so. It's only 1.5 horsepower at best but it is fun and the idea of a mini chopper like this is nostalgic.
YW.. These really are pretty cool.. If you can find a nice one in great condition, it's a keeper. :) The big issue is finding a replacement rear tire that doesn't cost a fortune...
@@TexasNEV that's not completely correct. Bigger as in cc maybe, but in physical footprint, no. The predator ghost isn't as tall as the engine you used, may be wider, side to side, but that's easily fixable by welding a wider mounting plate. Front to back it's 7". You'd have plenty of room to mount that. Still a great build tho. Enjoyed the vid 👍👍
@@TheShowgunofHarlem I was just being sarcastic, I getcha.. His grandmother bought the 49cc kit for my son for his birthday the year prior so that's what we had to work with.. It was fun. :)
I really want to keep the pedal side operating. So it looks like i will have to look at other bike frames instead of Schwinn. Thanks for the explanation of your build.
The 49cc conversion kit comes with pedal arm extensions in an attempt to preserve the pedal function. We didn't use them. :)
@@TexasNEV i know, i have the kit. But it looks like the crank sprocket would be in the way of the engine. Unless i make the crank sprocket super tiny..
@@datvik7187 I'd poke around UA-cam a bit more.. I think I've seen people do it and get it all to work. Not sure though! :)
I have 2 of those OCC bikes and i guess i should publish my videos. Im putting 4 stroke 110cc in mine I had some issues too but I solved them today with some not so safe grinding. Nice work.
Thanks! The big huge giant deal that I'm dealing with now is MASSIVE chain vibrations, even with a tensioner I can't keep the chain on, (and it is aligned perfectly and tight).
@@TexasNEV i would try a upper chain tensioner with a gear on it instead of a roller bc most rollers will actually help the chain off
@@minecraftblockychris8708 Thx for that.. I've actually been using a sprocket roller tensioner. The real solution ended up me changing the chain. I didn't use the 415H chain that came w/ the conversion kit and just reused the regular single speed 410 chain that was on the bike. The pitch is the same and it fit fine but the chain is so light it was whipping and vibrating all over the place. Once I changed it to the 415H chain, the problem went away. Go figure.
@@TexasNEV remove the motor and put some padding down then put the motor back down I know on a regular bike build it helps a lot with vibration
@@lifesadventureskeepingitre1180 There is a lot of vibration for sure. That was a customer build, it was sold. They are having a ball w/ it though.
Very cool! I enjoyed seeing how you overcame the various hurdles. My brother had a similar bike back in the day called the "Big Mo", (non motorized). I'm just getting into building motorized bicycles myself and am about to start my first build soon enough so it's great learning about all the different builds on YT and seeing what products and techniques I can incorporate into my own build. I just ordered a Micargi Rover Nx3 in metallic olive green as my base. Super nice bike. Can't wait for it to get here! I'm gonna shoot for a GX120 clone engine and a 30 series CVT with a 32 tooth sprocket. Should be a sweet ride when it's done.
Anyway, that was a great video. Thanks!
Nice! Have fun and be careful! That was my only gas project, everything else is all electric stuff that can hit in the low 60's. We're in an HOA so I am mindful of noise, etc, plus, gas isn't my forte, I'm an EE so all things electric / electronic is my gig. :)
Love the foot pegs!!!
Yeah I had seen that elsewhere so when I took off the cranks, I set them back in so they didn't oppose each other tack welded them in place, and viola! Foot pegs!
I have the Red chopper with the front fender and foot pegs they're super fun
We had one like that as well, but it was in poor shape. We came across this black one in excellent condition.. So we sold the red one so it all worked out. :)
What are the other two hoses for coming off the carb aside from the fuel line?
I think they are just breather elements / vacuum lines.. Not sure.
Gas overfill
Nice build bro I just did a 2 stroke build on that kind of bike not to long ago on my channel you did a great job bro
Thx, it is just too cool, and my son loves it. :)
That’s awesome bro
How does the brake rotor on the rear not come loose?
Good observation. Since it is spinning in the opposite direction, it wants to spin off.. Soo I had to drill through and put a lock nut on the rim to keep it from doing that.
why no links?
why no brand names?
They make a drum brakes for bicycles I just discovered these they actually work quite well better than disc brakes I've never had a problem with them but I can tell you stories on the disc brakes.
How you install them?
@@jesusgutierrezgarcia1449 there's two different types of they're pretty well self explanatory
There's a guy from like pedalchopper who sells whole kits for these that do work but they are spendy. Good job getting this to work for you, lots of work but nothing worthwhile is ever easy.
Thx! It was a fun project for sure. :)
I asked that guy two questions about two upgrades I intend to do on my Schwinn Stingray bike and by way of an answer, I got the following: "I can't help you with that." I guess he took me for a spy trying to steal his trade secrets.
I want to do this but can't weld do I have any options
Perhaps you can bend some metal brackets, use some self tapping screws into the frame or something.. Not sure.. Probably best to see if you can make the metal parts you need, get them placed where you need them and then just go to a muffler shop and have them weld whatever it is you need.
I have a red one a black one and a silver one I have two black ones. They came in a lot of different colors green blue I seen Orange.
I have a red one like that on my channel but I'm trying to put a two-stroke not a four stroke on it and I'm telling you if you had problems with four stroke you'll understand the problems I'm having with a two-stroke.
Yep it's a tight fit for sure! Makes it all worth while once it was all done. :)
How do you wire up the kill switch? I just can’t seem to figure it out.
I had to drill a small hole in the handlebar for the switch to mount, then the wires just plug up to the connector on the motor.
So I am going to have it to Pedal so the clutch doesn't keep going out
With a 49cc probably.. If you're doing an 80 w/ a good gear ratio I'm sure you'd be fine.
@@TexasNEV are you sure it is a 2 stroke tho
@@LillysSquad I put in the 49cc 4 stroke but if you put in an 80 two stroke it should giddy up and go w/o needing to pedal but that's just my guess. I'm not really a gas-engine guy.. Most of my videos are all electric conversions.
Do you remember which motor kit you got? This video is inspiring. I want to do it!
It was just the one off Amazon. It looks great and the size of the motor is to scale on the bike size but it's just not enough power for use from a a dead stop. If that's not an issue then go for it. :) Could be an excellent e-bike conversion (which is what I normally do). There's some 80cc conversions out there and even a few Harbor freight predator 212's that people have done.
@@TexasNEV that’s awesome. I’m finding a lot of 2 strokes but I’d rather have a 4 if I can manage.
@@SirGuidemere91 The 49cc's are all over Amazon for $180.
Chrome, Black, Red. 21" front wheel. Tire is almost impossible to find. I have a 2 stroke with the peddles. I won't bore you with the details.
Sweet! Send me a picture via my website contact form. :)
@@TexasNEV I will but I have no idea how. I'm in Houston. My channel is saddletramp1200 I have my 79cc 4 stroke bike in one. I am the real deal too. Tell me how. I'm 67 and a pretty sharp old fart.🤣
I have to Of the 70s stingray five spades and I have two of the regular stingrays
NICE! Hang on to those for sure!
Is this the 20in adult size?
The rear is a 20x4, front is a 24" but this is not the adult size.
I have to 2 that run grate once you get all problems fixed with them
Once I changed to 415H from 410, the chain problems went away.. Pretty much good to go.. Plus I have a small supply of 20x4 fat bike knobby tread rear tires for sale on e-bay as well. traderrje is my e-bay seller name.. I only have 7 left.
You are forgetting the most part about the old school shopper bicycle from the 70s the little front tire.
Yes I did. Those bikes came in a ton of different color schemes. I'm glad OCC / Schwinn made these though. I think these look a lot cooler.
What type of clutch did you buy? Do you have a link?
Get the 3 bladed one with the RED compound. The stock one won't last (3 blade w/ black compound) and the 4 bladed w/ red compound is way too much chatter and vibration as that one is for 2 strokes..
@@TexasNEV do you have a link?
@@TexasNEV also, what do you mean by blades and compound?
@@TexasNEV there is currently a fly wheel clutch in the bike
@@maxblack8397 Not handy, that was a couple years ago, but they're on ebay, just search for 49cc clutch. This motor used the tapered shaft. I liked the 3 vane/ blade clutch w/ the reddish / brownish compound. not the black / grey.
Did you also remove that throttle stopper? It restricts like 2/3 the available throttle.
LA LA LA (plugging ears).. Delete delete delete.. Hope my 12 year old doesn't read this! LOL.. Umm.. no I haven't.. (It's on my list but had to work through the melting clutch issues).. RED COMPOUND CLUTCH rocks.. All others, disposable after a day..
@@TexasNEV lmao fair enough. I was so mad when I first got my motor and realized why I had no power. I've gotten mine with some other mods up to 37 on flat ground.
The transmission on your bike is for bikes. The mini bike transmission is a short shaft and will fit ur bike
Thx David, all good, just having a little fun w/ this. :)
@@TexasNEV there only 30 to 90 bucks . Seriously I put that engine on your frame using a mini bike transmission. For ur son's safety change out the tranny the original is a single chain and will brake,both mine did the shaft over heats and locks up ,the transmission literally folds in half ripping apart because the engine produces 2footlbs of torque at clutch engagement speed 2600 to 3000 rpm. A 48 tooth sprocket takes load off ur transmission it's top end is 43mph ,it is,lol ur bike now does 38mph out the box ,it really does.ive built 5 of em. There's hundreds of videos project farm testing of ur engine is spot on. Please use a 48 or 50 tooth sprocket on the bike it will almost pull wheelies if u do. And they do get 50 miles per tank full ,1 dollar lol fills it up .38 gallon tank is on that bike. Ps get a tac that engine turns 8500 ,stock 7200 underload with 44 tooth gear . Believe it or not that's a Honda 50 cc clone on ur bike that engine came on the Honda cub that did 45mph. Ur engine produces 4.2 Hp at 8500 rpm it really does. The right gear would bring that engine to life.
@@davidkaul6180 Really great information but we sold that a long time ago.
That kind of sucks I got mine for 400 at a pawnshop drove it home and then the chain broke off
Use 415H chain and you'll be good.. It fits regular single speed bicycle chain sprocket sizes but is heavy duty.
U actually made a mini motorcycle. My 49cc four stroke does 48mph 8400 rpm up hills . I have a dual chain 5 to 1 transmission,420 chain 28tooth sprocket on 26 inch rims . Ur transmission is 3 to 1 ,it jerky on take off because of this . If u change to a 48 tooth ur bike will actually have a higher top speed and be quicker on take off, because ur rpm will be higher creating more hp . Ur bike will climb any hill also .plus less wear on ur clutch.
sorry bud... cant hold a candle to mine... custom motor mounts, 24in rear... Ill have a glamor shot vid once I get it just quite right... lmk what you think so far on my channel though
I'm it sure it does. :) This was just something fun to do. "Nothing fits" indicates as such. :)
great informative video. I would have trimmed the fender rather than welding the sprocket to the wheel. Minimal trimming needed.
I ended up having to trim the fender anyway. :) LOL
how fast does it go?
about 26mph. Good nuff. :)
@@TexasNEV what do you think is the maximum load for that engine? can it carry two old fellas?
@@deathwaiting9931 Nope. These engines are not designed for dead start applications or heavy loads.. Even with a kid riding, it's best to get moving by your feet first otherwise your clutch will last a day or so. It's only 1.5 horsepower at best but it is fun and the idea of a mini chopper like this is nostalgic.
I'm pretty partial to that 7g belt drive on four Cycles.🤔
Absolutely.. Totally love belt drive.. See my other videos where I put belt drive on my EV Hammerhead 150.. Best money spent!
Nice bike, thank you for the video
YW.. These really are pretty cool.. If you can find a nice one in great condition, it's a keeper. :) The big issue is finding a replacement rear tire that doesn't cost a fortune...
Ya TexasNEV I've seen on fb bicycle groups people use 16 inch MC tires and 16" donut (spare)tires. Those tires are stupid expensive.
@@markplaylist5984 Wow I'm amazed that works and fits ok!
Huasheng 42F 49cc Legal.
I got 1 I am doing a 80cc on mine
Wrong you can get widened crank arms like I did
Good to know. :)
Wouldn't it have been easier just to get a new bike itself instead of going through all that you did ?
? This is a bicycle that they don't make anymore, and converting it into a gas powered mini chopper is just too cool to not do. :)
Boy, I think a lot of your issues would have been solved if you just threw on a 212cc Predator Ghost, with a torque converter.
Yes, ain't nothing like putting something bigger in to fix an issue where there is no space. LOL
@@TexasNEV that's not completely correct. Bigger as in cc maybe, but in physical footprint, no. The predator ghost isn't as tall as the engine you used, may be wider, side to side, but that's easily fixable by welding a wider mounting plate. Front to back it's 7". You'd have plenty of room to mount that.
Still a great build tho. Enjoyed the vid 👍👍
@@TheShowgunofHarlem I was just being sarcastic, I getcha.. His grandmother bought the 49cc kit for my son for his birthday the year prior so that's what we had to work with.. It was fun. :)
They where called muscle bikes back in the day.
Now that you mention it.. I do vaguely recall that! :)
I see a motorcycle i would have left this like it was
We had another one that was left original. :) These things are cool though.
your filter is upside down
LOL.. wow ok, didn't know that. It came that way but looking at it again, not sure it would fit the other way but we'll give it a try!
Top demais uau meu sonho ter uma igual essa valeu
Ton bike n est meme plus légale..acose ta enlevé ton pédalié tes obligé de le plaqué comme scooter
oui oui! :)