i don't understand what something that happened years ago have to do with the man being murdered. those 3 murderers don't know his past and even if they did it does not justify them hunting down a man and murdering him for what they thought might be trespassing that they did not see that day.
@@freederek1732 keep dreaming. as a combat vet. former L.E.O. and paralegal studies student i pray they get life without parole plus 27 years for this cold blooded hunt and murder.
@@freederek1732 Where's Derek's current place of residence? Lol. You must be getting tired of seeing your murdering buddies getting thrown in the can. No more good ol day's..
We want to hear the calls. If there’s nothing to hide then why argue about hearing the calls. They committed a murder and they should go to prison like everyone else have to do. No excuse!
Oh you want to go back years ago, to bring up past charges against Ahmaud, but keep all the private calls of the accused murderers, out of the case?!?! Double Standards!!
They had months to prepare it seems like the defense is trying to exhaust the court. Appalling really for any attorney would see this what their doing for what reason?
Amazing how the defence is saying that they have a right to private calls trying to enable the covering up of the calls that arrange tamper with evidence on Facebook etc.The attempt to put a twisted spin on rights to cover up relevant evidence.
The entire purpose of these pre trial proceedings is to work out what evidence is admissible. This happens prior to every trial. Each side will argue their position and the judge will make a decision.
Since inmates are aware that all calls are recorded, typically only those related to attorney-client privilege, or those deemed irrelevant are excluded from being able to be used as evidence
I'm having a lot of trouble understanding how these well-seasoned defense attorneys are keeping a straight face during argument on an already heavily litigated issue that inmates have no expectation of privacy, particularly as it pertains to jail calls. Furthermore, it is CODIFIED in the frickin statute!!! They want to make this a novel issue and try to persuade this trial court to overrule existing settled law, but it's not going to happen. I predict the judge will rule against the defense on the jail tapes and once convicted, the defense will raise this as a potential reason for an appeal, regardless of whether the State moves to admit any tapes into evidence. They are litigating an issue that's not even ripe yet in this case... and if I had to guess why, I'd say there is something on those tapes that one (or all) of the defendants, in retrospect, don't want the government to hear.
Don't inmate phones have a sign that explains that calls are not private and are recorded? If not, have these lawyers never watched a criminal procedure TV show? Even I know there's no expectation of privacy in jail. Mail, visitors, phone calls...everything except communications with lawyers is monitored
This entire proceeding was a waste of time and money. Hppefully they try all these clowns together to save us the punishment of hear BS over and over again.
They knew they were being recorded so if they didn’t want anything to be used against them they shouldn’t have been so open and freely speaking bs on the phone the calls should definitely be admitted in I don’t see how this attorney is arguing this when they knew and made the choice to do so they don’t have any rights with the calls unless it the attorney this is a joke.
What a waste of time. The defense has nothing better to do then ask this woman to repeat herself multiple times. Idiots ..!! These attorney's need to be disbarred.
Want to know what was said in one of those jail calls? The defendant said “You’ve heard the phrase, no good deed goes unpunished right?” And then he & the caller laugh.
Yes and they say that the prosecution interprets their good deed as killing Ahmaud but the defendant meant the good deed was protecting his community. BS - it's quite obvious what he was laughing over
I just don’t get it they knew they were being recorded when your read your rights everything after that they say can be used against them why even get on the phone knowing it’s being recorded and brag it’s ridiculous
Wow they sure did not give the murder victim due process of the law. Sad how it works for them but not for killing a man running down the street. Those or the rules in jail if you don't like it don't end up in jail.
I was wondering the same thing! That was to be his vacation home lol and i doubt if there is any buyers after this trial outted his crazy gun touting neighbors.
@@Chauna30 my sister works for a realtor company & she said the entire Satilla Shores community took a hit. No one will be eager to rent or buy any property there.
🤔she is a deputy sheriff. Is she permitted to contact the defense reqarding someone requesting jail phone 📞 call records for McMichaels & Bryant. Did she send a copy and/phone call of the same notice to the prosecutors?😲
It's really unfortunate that the defendants have the worst possible attorneys, the Hoeuge's were just totally incompetent. Sighting the 14 amendment as a due process is just outrageous is another sign of their inability to defend their client. It is clear and written that all phone calls are recorded with the exception of calling an attorney registered number. The McMichaels were idiot's right from the start..knowing your being recorded, still make incriminating comments is just another example of their recklessness and disrespect for the entire process. They think their above the law.
Why is that unfortunate?? The facts speak for itself, even the best lawyers shouldnt be able to get them off if the defendants are as guilty as they are. Be happy to get them into prison instead
He's not the only Attorney I've seen with long hair. What does his hair have to do with his job? I've seen people judge people for so many different reasons; this one shows me your mindset.
I believe it said "current balance" was $1K and offered payment options, which leads me to believe it was a balance owed for calls already made for that particular inmate
The person has a balance to use of $1000.00. Basically they can make a $1000.00 worth of calls. It’s not an owed for calls previously made, nor is it the cost of the call their making.
Defense attorney is an idiot! He’s repeating questions regarding requesting jail call records. Guess what, genius, it’s literally the job of the DA to request the calls. Continued questioning of each of individual request only serves to prove they have no case and no defense. Their clients guilty A F. They even recorded, bragged about it , and shared the recorded murder on social media. Yeah, he’s a real fkn genius
Lawyer wants all of Ahmauds information to be entered as evidence but not the defendants!! Get outta here!!
I really wanted to know some of the three men juvenile backgrounds
Ridiculous and not playing fair. The defense is caught multiple times trying to cheat. LOL.
What an intelligent and beautiful sister. Bless her.
she is
There is no privacy in prison!
We want to hear the jail phone calls recordings in court, play the tapes!
Play the Entire video while your at it......that might be even more interesting and informative....
i don't understand what something that happened years ago have to do with the man being murdered. those 3 murderers don't know his past and even if they did it does not justify them hunting down a man and murdering him for what they thought might be trespassing that they did not see that day.
full acquittal
@@freederek1732 keep dreaming. as a combat vet. former L.E.O. and paralegal studies student i pray they get life without parole plus 27 years for this cold blooded hunt and murder.
@@KevinP32270 you’re not a vet. your a worthless baby killer. he’ll be acquitted.
@@freederek1732 Where's Derek's current place of residence? Lol. You must be getting tired of seeing your murdering buddies getting thrown in the can. No more good ol day's..
@@TonyStone3000 They are political prisoners aka patriots
We want to hear the calls. If there’s nothing to hide then why argue about hearing the calls. They committed a murder and they should go to prison like everyone else have to do. No excuse!
Oh you want to go back years ago, to bring up past charges against Ahmaud, but keep all the private calls of the accused murderers, out of the case?!?! Double Standards!!
The Prosecution is just too good.
Your clients Violated Mr. Arberys rights!!
They had months to prepare it seems like the defense is trying to exhaust the court. Appalling really for any attorney would see this what their doing for what reason?
The defence don’t have a leg to stand on!!
Amazing how the defence is saying that they have a right to private calls trying to enable the covering up of the calls that arrange tamper with evidence on Facebook etc.The attempt to put a twisted spin on rights to cover up relevant evidence.
The entire purpose of these pre trial proceedings is to work out what evidence is admissible. This happens prior to every trial. Each side will argue their position and the judge will make a decision.
@@melanieboyle606 The purpose is justice, not parochial naysayers.
Since inmates are aware that all calls are recorded, typically only those related to attorney-client privilege, or those deemed irrelevant are excluded from being able to be used as evidence
It's crazy how they want to put the victim on trial but everything ain't doing they want to keep a secret
Is this the first time that a Georgia court has put on trial the dead victim rather than the killers?
They tried to pull the same thing with George Floyd. They wanted to put him on trial like he was the murderer instead of the victim.
Lock them up and keep them locked up till Ahmaud comes back to life.
I'm having a lot of trouble understanding how these well-seasoned defense attorneys are keeping a straight face during argument on an already heavily litigated issue that inmates have no expectation of privacy, particularly as it pertains to jail calls. Furthermore, it is CODIFIED in the frickin statute!!! They want to make this a novel issue and try to persuade this trial court to overrule existing settled law, but it's not going to happen. I predict the judge will rule against the defense on the jail tapes and once convicted, the defense will raise this as a potential reason for an appeal, regardless of whether the State moves to admit any tapes into evidence. They are litigating an issue that's not even ripe yet in this case... and if I had to guess why, I'd say there is something on those tapes that one (or all) of the defendants, in retrospect, don't want the government to hear.
Don’t get your hopes up.
YES, 👏👏👏👏I appreciate your snopses. It clears up my understanding as to what the defense is trying to accomplish. 🧐 THANK YOU😲❣️❣️❣️
This Lawyer sure did keep quoting the Amendments . Ask him what part of the Amendments applied to Ahmaud Arbery
Don't inmate phones have a sign that explains that calls are not private and are recorded? If not, have these lawyers never watched a criminal procedure TV show? Even I know there's no expectation of privacy in jail. Mail, visitors, phone calls...everything except communications with lawyers is monitored
There's literally a recording that plays every time they make a call reminding them that their calls are being recorded.
I really like this second prosecutor!
If they'd just left their guns at home, none of this would have happened.
Ya he was just on a jog for some power tools as he was wont to do
@@ghostrobot24 what are you talking about?
@@ghostrobot24 There is no evidence of that, in fact, there is evidence to the contrary
Gun mad U.S. knife mad U.K.
And if hadn't been a blight on society criminal he'd still be alive.
This entire proceeding was a waste of time and money. Hppefully they try all these clowns together to save us the punishment of hear BS over and over again.
They knew they were being recorded so if they didn’t want anything to be used against them they shouldn’t have been so open and freely speaking bs on the phone the calls should definitely be admitted in I don’t see how this attorney is arguing this when they knew and made the choice to do so they don’t have any rights with the calls unless it the attorney this is a joke.
OMG 😱 the defendant’s attorney’s voice will put the courtroom to sleep, it is a slow drawl there is no different pitch at all blah blah blah blah 😑
Reminds me of Nelson.
The court reporter probably loves this.
*And through his voice, you can tell his intelligence level*
@@trap3400 he's brilliant...and he's 80 years old.
Bueller… bueller…BUELLER?!?!?!
We want to hear the jail phone calls in trail, play the tape recording
What a waste of time. The defense has nothing better to do then ask this woman to repeat herself multiple times. Idiots ..!! These attorney's need to be disbarred.
Want to know what was said in one of those jail calls? The defendant said “You’ve heard the phrase, no good deed goes unpunished right?” And then he & the caller laugh.
Yes and they say that the prosecution interprets their good deed as killing Ahmaud but the defendant meant the good deed was protecting his community. BS - it's quite obvious what he was laughing over
I just don’t get it they knew they were being recorded when your read your rights everything after that they say can be used against them why even get on the phone knowing it’s being recorded and brag it’s ridiculous
@@qiaray1123 they are inbred and stupid
@@janethefriend-awakened33 Agreed you said what you said 💯👍🏾👌🏾
@@qiaray1123 A voice actually interupts during jail calls reminding the people they're being recorded.
I think the defense attorney with the long hair is violating his client's right to a speedy trial by speaking.
Lmao😂
Ha ha ha!!!
lol😆@@colleennaidoo658
Aubrey is not on trial these 3 cowards murdered him
Where did they find 🤔 these defense attorneys 😆😆😆😆😆😆
Wow they sure did not give the murder victim due process of the law. Sad how it works for them but not for killing a man running down the street. Those or the rules in jail if you don't like it don't end up in jail.
Jail calls are only private with the lawyer and client and only when the lawyer states.
is there one video that shows the whole day? finding theee see annoying 😤
Privacy in jail...who knew😟
There is no god
the lawyer with the hair ......please
if u dont want calls recorded in jail between u n your wife then don't go to jail for murdering people for no reason... FOH
AGREE 100%
Since when does the defense get to present their case first?
Sling Blade is the defense attorney
I wonder if Mr. English finished his home or did he say screw that house tha people in this community are gun crazy nuts.
💖💖2021💖💖
I was wondering the same thing! That was to be his vacation home lol and i doubt if there is any buyers after this trial outted his crazy gun touting neighbors.
@@Chauna30 my sister works for a realtor company & she said the entire Satilla Shores community took a hit. No one will be eager to rent or buy any property there.
@@cecemoore6121 I bet lol... the funny thing is that those people legitimately believe that their behavior is normal
Larry English sold the house located at 220 Satilla Drive in November 2021 .
🤔the attorney with the ponytail and soft tone makes me uneasy. 😳
The defence lawyers are terrible. Travis and gang were better off pleading guilty!
That's just like bring up his pass
🤔she is a deputy sheriff. Is she permitted to contact the defense reqarding someone requesting jail phone 📞 call records for McMichaels & Bryant. Did she send a copy and/phone call of the same notice to the prosecutors?😲
Ha...he looks like Mitch McConnel in a wig!
Wow, you can tell the prosecution's co-chair is young, eager and excited to be working a case this big. Literally bouncing from the chair, lol.
She knows her job!
That's true
When do the calls start?
@B Trotter...if you care to hear the actual calls, look up the bond hearing.The calls are played there.
A pony tail on a man of advanced years looks inappropriate and ridiculous.
It's really unfortunate that the defendants have the worst possible attorneys, the Hoeuge's were just totally incompetent. Sighting the 14 amendment as a due process is just outrageous is another sign of their inability to defend their client. It is clear and written that all phone calls are recorded with the exception of calling an attorney registered number.
The McMichaels were idiot's right from the start..knowing your being recorded, still make incriminating comments is just another example of their recklessness and disrespect for the entire process. They think their above the law.
Why is that unfortunate??
The facts speak for itself, even the best lawyers shouldnt be able to get them off if the defendants are as guilty as they are. Be happy to get them into prison instead
Bryan needs a better lawyer because all he think about who sitting n the court,
Why he talk so slow did he get on the right bus 🚎
HE COULD HAVE RODE ON THE SHORT, YELLOW BUS, BUT INSTEAD HE CHOSE TO WALK
Very silly hair for a grown up attorney
Hope you are talking about the male attorney
Why is a man with long hair considered "silly"? I know plenty of very successful men with long hair.
He's not the only Attorney I've seen with long hair. What does his hair have to do with his job? I've seen people judge people for so many different reasons; this one shows me your mindset.
For all u know he can be growing it out to give to cancer ppl
🤣😂🤣😂
Whom ever i heard attempting to whisper during this hearing around 5:30 mark i encourage them to do it AWAY from the mic next time be successful.
Never understood the gray, frizzy ponytail look. Especially in a suit...
Dude would look better with his head shaved.
21:19 Did that recorded computer voice message say the phone call cost $1,000.00?😳 or did I hear that incorrectly?
I believe it said "current balance" was $1K and offered payment options, which leads me to believe it was a balance owed for calls already made for that particular inmate
The person has a balance to use of $1000.00. Basically they can make a $1000.00 worth of calls. It’s not an owed for calls previously made, nor is it the cost of the call their making.
oh okay, thanks
@@tashiaredd3421 thank you
That’s money on his books to use the phone and buy snacks and things while in jail.
I don't know what case patty was watching, this defense lawyer is boring.
Women on one side, men on the other. Let's go!
The pony tail attorney is trying to keep important evidences from being used against his client.🧐. It must be very incriminating!!
I'm trying to figure out the point of a trial when everything is being put out now
Due process
@@AnnaKuznetzova88 well I personally have never heard one go on that long. Good luck finding an impartial jury
@Portia Mccoy I know . But what's the point ? Everything has already been put on record
The defence lawyer is very intelligent and a very good lawyer
Which one? The prosecution is leaving them all for dead
Defense attorney is an idiot! He’s repeating questions regarding requesting jail call records. Guess what, genius, it’s literally the job of the DA to request the calls. Continued questioning of each of individual request only serves to prove they have no case and no defense. Their clients guilty A F. They even recorded, bragged about it , and shared the recorded murder on social media. Yeah, he’s a real fkn genius
@@PowerToolsnPearls Thank you because I think she’s confused 🤦🏾♀️
@@qiaray1123 she has too be lol BC they both are dumb as a box of rocks🤦🏾
@@demetrawest9914 Your got it💯
these men are going to walk free don't be surprised riged trial
W walking in Jackson State
free these men
I wonder would you be saying that if they killed a family member of yours
Free them so the streets can serve justice. Disemboweled can be an option for them
Those monsters will be in jail forever they deserve it Live with this fact 😏