sounds like I will need to move a lot of my special points from other areas to endurance. of course the point reduction of many cards is going to help. I have always thought that the max point cost of many cards was too high. this will be a good change.
Same feelings, I have way too many points spent on weight reductions, being the looter that I am. Trying to balance the Endurance tree will be interesting, I've pretty much only had Adamantium there, and now I need the points to keep it effective for the Bird Bones mutation. Good thing the Starched Genes moves there. Then again, mine is a full health build that's already quite tanky, in or out of PA, and all of these make it even more worthwhile. I don't even use cards like Adrenaline, Ricochet or Tenderizer yet, but now there's a chance.
I just started playing and went in blind (i usuaully start off a game without looking up tips, etc. until later) and have totally picked perks for rifles, shotguns, crafting not knowing that I should have specialized. So, now I'm working on building for better weapon use. So for now, I don't want to see anything more powerful than the current overland mobs. lol
I like it. I think it gives us a little room to refine and even somewhat supercharge our builds for the short term while giving them the flexibility (in terms of S.P.E.C.I.A.L. points budget) to introduce some new perk cards going forward.
7:14 I run full health power armor heavy weapons and always run ricochet. Not for the damage it did to targets but just to avoid some damage taken. This change is absolutely mouth watering.
As a stealth build I appreciate the change to Night Eyes It will apply to all low-light scenarios, like caves and building interiors, regardless of the time of day. No need for light source giving away your location.
I had to retype this comment a few time to keep from swearing, so please bear with me. I hate playing games that force specific builds, and that is exactly what this is about to do. For example, my main character (not optimized, obviously) is a full health, heavy type. I have 3 points in endurance and charisma, max points in strength, intelligence, and luck. Now, I need to reshuffle points into categories I know I don't want in order to keep using the perks I do. While I take nothing away for those excited about this, and I wish you all the best in Appalachia, for me, this is nothing but a play breaker. I mean, I am essentially being forced to change a 5 year build for no obvious reason other than devs patting themselves on the back and feeling relevant. I apologize for this rant, to those who support this change. Again, I wish nothing but caps and tons of scrap for all the vault dwellers I have encountered. But for my future travels, I just don't know.
i agree. i have 5 characters each with at least three builds a piece, and some of them are perfect. this change will destroy those builds and may even make those characters unplayable. it's bad enough that they nerfed some of my favorite weapons into the ground (gauss shotgun being one) now they pull this crap? it seems to me that they are intentionally trying to kill the game.
Every time i see the ordnance express, that reminds me of a red China joke, 东风快递(dongfeng express) this is a meme joke in china, which refers as the dong feng missile. The dong Feng actually came from a Chinese idioms, “万事俱备只欠东风” all things is set, all we need is the wind from the east for a fire and siege works to attack 曹操caochao, it is means a key factor of a victory, it's from the book romance of the three kingdoms. You know all the explosive things(ordnance express) truly reminds my of the dong feng express
I wasnt expecting it and i wint a fan of every change but the majority im all for. Im soo looking forward to making my characters build better than what it already is!!! And or overall character functionality and or lore for my character
Another thing, I feel if its a 3 star card and it now becomes a 1 star perk card.. they should redeem us back the 2 points we spent to allocate them in all our now have to be changed builds. Thanks mrwest
Heavy Gun Vats is gonna be SO MUCH FUN. I am sooooo ready for this next update. Been crafting VATS versions of the Gauss Minigun, Gatling Plasma, and the Ultracite Gatling Laser. Vampire's is gonna be big in the Raid, i would think. Just that lvl 2 with the one shot kill Mole Miner seems brutal.
As a newer player, Lone Wanderer now sounds like the first skill card you should go for. Most new players want to just explore the world on their own and experience the game so the *almost* free damage reduction and AP regen is amazing.
This sounds like a nerf to serendipity. The secret service armor everybody likes counts as heavy armor, meaning it adds two seconds to the cooldown for a total of three seconds cooldown. The current version has no cooldown afaik. So if you've got a super mutant hosing you down with a minigun, you'll only get to avoid at most one bullet per three seconds instead of 45% of all bullets with the current perk. Serendipity is the main perk that keeps bloodied builds alive, so this could make things tough. Maybe the new ricochet will help make up the difference?
Is there word on if we’ll get refunded the value of the perks in perk coins when the levels are reduced? Or is it better to scrap the old multi level perks and re buy?
Right?! I don't like to mess with my build and this is gonna mess up my character so bad I already suck at the game lol. Pay back my perks I paid bethesdont.
So i have maxed out the perks: pharmacist,caniabal,caps collector, and hard bargain will i keep the perks and get my perk points back or nothing happens?
Since I heard nothing about it from anyone, I would assume no perk points given to compensate, unless you got them in animated version and you can claim enough cards to replace them later, I would suggest scrapping those before update comes just to be sure
For people that crit every other shot, Four Leaf Clover will be amazing. I might even swap 50% VATS hit chance for 50% crit damage on my Plasma Caster, since I'm gonna hit every other shot anyway, no matter what my hit chance is.
i'm not gonna lie, this is going to be a nightmare for me. i have 5 characters all of which have at least three builds a piece (some even more) and going through all those builds to respec them will be a PITA. we shall see if there really is any benefit in the long run, but given all the recent nerfs i'm not holding my breath...
Fact so many potentially powerful cards are so cheap only makes ghoul single rank cards with cost 5 or 6 only more expensive, unless they adjust their cost too at some point
I wish they would remove the perk coin cost for unequipping legendary perks and make them change automatically like the regular perks do when we switch builds in the punch-card machine. It's a hassle having to manually swap them when I go between my PA and non PA builds.
what about a level 300 " general gutsy " with level 90 assaultrons following them..and a sentry bot ..with some high end loot ..it make a cool idea i think
As a Bloodied Unarmed main in Unyielding armor...I already can't really die and 1 punch kill level 100 Super Mutants! Even with the seeming damage reduction nerf from Lone Wanderer...overall it seems like good changes around and I doubt will cause me any issues.
@TheRealNinjaGnome not to mention if youre a lone wanderer why would you be charismatic? i feel those two things dont go hand in hand. in fact one could argue youd need to be lucky more than anything. i may email bethesda and point this out. chances are nothing happens but closed mouths dont get fed
what I want to know if you already raisd a cad to 3 and its dropped to 1. do you get those perk cards back or do they just vanish. would be nice if they just added into rank up points.
When is this update supposed to release? I can’t wait to update my build with the new perk changes. I recently got back into fallout 76 heavy gunner. I recently changed my main gun from the bloodied mini gun to a bloodied plasma gatling.
It becomes useless after you get to more than 300 damage resistance, so basically if you have secret service Armor it's useless asf but if you are a beginner (assuming you have poor damage resistance) you might find it worth using
Serendipity, Evasive and Ricochet perk cards were nerfed to hell. This is the worst update change ever! They cut all three to HALF their original effects. 45% trigger for Serendipity is now 28%, Evasive went from 45+ per AGL to 28% and now Ricochet drop down to 8% maximum. It is a dark day for defense cards for Bloodied Builds
Can someone explain to me why this is a good thing considering since I've logged on today literally everything can kill me in my bloodied unyielding build. To me, my entire build no longer works.
@@kavalogue I'm the same build. I honestly don't know how that's happening to you because I can stand in the Whitesprings Golf building with the 20+ ferals and Wendigo, leave the room, go make myself a sandwich, come back and my character be chilling.
@hutchhound3788 bro I don't either. Two bullets and I'm dead. Health no longer regens quick enough either for me to survive multiple unarmed enemies. I genuinely don't know what's happening. I no longer understand it
@kavalogue Well if it helps here's my full load out from what I can remember off the top of my head. .Full set of Unyielding SS armor. Relevent Mutations. Bird Bones. Grounded. Healing Factor. Herbivore. Scaly Skin. . Legendary perks (all maxed out) Luck, intelligence, perception, endurance, strength and Funky Duds. Relevent cards for bloodied builds. Strength - Blocker (maxed out) Endurance - Ironclad (maxed out) - Fireproof (maxed out) - Lifegiver (1 or 2 star) Charisma - Strange in numbers (and join a team of course) Intelligence - Nerd Rage Agility - Evasive (maxed out) -Dodgy (maxed out) -Born survivor - (1 or 2 star) Luck - Serendipity (maxed out) - Class freak ( maxed out) - Starched genes (maxed out) This along with plenty of super stimpaks for auto healing. This is what works for me still.
@@hutchhound3788 i appreciate that rundown. Screenshotted and saved. I genuinely genuinely cannot figure out what's gone wrong, but it just looks like Ima have to go back to square one and start a whole new bloodied uny build. Probably base it off of yours. That's so wild man I've seen so many people cheering this update so now I'm sitting here like sob of course it's me it fks it all up for lmao
@@kavalogue I think it all depends on the weapon too. My main has always been a Bloody Explosive Choo Choo with a heavy emphasis on utilizing Crits. Shreds through anything except the bosses.
For me it chance nothing, the only thing i do is free roam events and stay in my camp ( like a real npc) There is nothing els to do in this game. And this is the reason wy i play less and less.
These "balancing" changes are stupid beyond any understanding. Scaling off stats just gives a massive boost to stupid low hp builds as with unyielding they get +15 stats which already gives massive advantage, now it will be even more op. I really can't understand why they hired bunch of hamsters to do "balancing".
Yes, but can they fix the power armor display already. Been at least half a year. Thanks Bethesda.Oh yeah and the crashes we should all know are insane.
last time I checked they had fixt it. but when it was broken I turned off the power armor hud display in settings so I could see the compass markers and now I am so use to playing this way I left the power armor display turned off. as for the crashes I think they are getting worse. I hope they fix the crashes before the game becomes unplayable
@keithday1982 yeah the compass was fixed, but about a third of my hud is cutt off screen so I can't see the AP meter or my power cores. Riparoni. Might just be an Xbox one thing, but if the X is having the same amount of crashes as the Xbox one, I think I should find a new game. And I don't want to.
Holy Fire is the best lazy person weapon. My only problem is keeping up with ammo for it (acid is a pain to farm). So I do a lot of Daily Ops and expeditions to stock up.
I already feel unstoppable in power armor, that change to ricochet alone is gonna make me feel like a literal god walking the wasteland
100%
Real gods don’t need armor lol, just kidding but yes I’m looking forward to this change!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Until you come across someone with a 5 cap bounty, stacked power armor, groll poison autoaxe and a bunch of nuka quantums
Makes Bloodied Power Armour even better as an option.
And I can already hear peoples anger when in 2-6 months they nerf things, whatever it be still better than today, on par or worse
sounds like I will need to move a lot of my special points from other areas to endurance. of course the point reduction of many cards is going to help. I have always thought that the max point cost of many cards was too high. this will be a good change.
Same feelings, I have way too many points spent on weight reductions, being the looter that I am. Trying to balance the Endurance tree will be interesting, I've pretty much only had Adamantium there, and now I need the points to keep it effective for the Bird Bones mutation. Good thing the Starched Genes moves there.
Then again, mine is a full health build that's already quite tanky, in or out of PA, and all of these make it even more worthwhile. I don't even use cards like Adrenaline, Ricochet or Tenderizer yet, but now there's a chance.
I hope we get more legendary cards
more cards to choose from or more card slots?
@@2percentrightI mean there are way too many LC that are useless, it would be great to add more to the mix or rework the useless ones
def gonna have some extra special points with these changes. looking forward to it.
I just started playing and went in blind (i usuaully start off a game without looking up tips, etc. until later) and have totally picked perks for rifles, shotguns, crafting not knowing that I should have specialized. So, now I'm working on building for better weapon use. So for now, I don't want to see anything more powerful than the current overland mobs. lol
I like it. I think it gives us a little room to refine and even somewhat supercharge our builds for the short term while giving them the flexibility (in terms of S.P.E.C.I.A.L. points budget) to introduce some new perk cards going forward.
7:14 I run full health power armor heavy weapons and always run ricochet. Not for the damage it did to targets but just to avoid some damage taken. This change is absolutely mouth watering.
That is so phenomenal! Its also gonna free up a lot of perk points that can be used for other things
200%!! This is insane. I can’t wait to try this out. I’m only level 105, though.
As a stealth build I appreciate the change to Night Eyes It will apply to all low-light scenarios, like caves and building interiors, regardless of the time of day. No need for light source giving away your location.
I had to retype this comment a few time to keep from swearing, so please bear with me. I hate playing games that force specific builds, and that is exactly what this is about to do. For example, my main character (not optimized, obviously) is a full health, heavy type. I have 3 points in endurance and charisma, max points in strength, intelligence, and luck. Now, I need to reshuffle points into categories I know I don't want in order to keep using the perks I do.
While I take nothing away for those excited about this, and I wish you all the best in Appalachia, for me, this is nothing but a play breaker. I mean, I am essentially being forced to change a 5 year build for no obvious reason other than devs patting themselves on the back and feeling relevant. I apologize for this rant, to those who support this change. Again, I wish nothing but caps and tons of scrap for all the vault dwellers I have encountered. But for my future travels, I just don't know.
i agree. i have 5 characters each with at least three builds a piece, and some of them are perfect. this change will destroy those builds and may even make those characters unplayable. it's bad enough that they nerfed some of my favorite weapons into the ground (gauss shotgun being one) now they pull this crap? it seems to me that they are intentionally trying to kill the game.
Same. I will probably be donating all my scrap and loot and everything before I cancel fallout first and stop playing soon.
Every time i see the ordnance express, that reminds me of a red China joke, 东风快递(dongfeng express) this is a meme joke in china, which refers as the dong feng missile. The dong Feng actually came from a Chinese idioms, “万事俱备只欠东风” all things is set, all we need is the wind from the east for a fire and siege works to attack 曹操caochao, it is means a key factor of a victory, it's from the book romance of the three kingdoms. You know all the explosive things(ordnance express) truly reminds my of the dong feng express
I wasnt expecting it and i wint a fan of every change but the majority im all for. Im soo looking forward to making my characters build better than what it already is!!! And or overall character functionality and or lore for my character
Bloodied gets a way better Serendipity AND a waaaay better Richochet. Hell yeah!
I can finally afford to go full Bloody. I have the armor, but I need too many carry weight perks to make it worth it!
Another thing, I feel if its a 3 star card and it now becomes a 1 star perk card.. they should redeem us back the 2 points we spent to allocate them in all our now have to be changed builds.
Thanks mrwest
If it was originally a 3 star perk and is reduced to 1 star you will end up with 3 1 star cards. So there's no loss
Heavy Gun Vats is gonna be SO MUCH FUN. I am sooooo ready for this next update. Been crafting VATS versions of the Gauss Minigun, Gatling Plasma, and the Ultracite Gatling Laser. Vampire's is gonna be big in the Raid, i would think. Just that lvl 2 with the one shot kill Mole Miner seems brutal.
Ricochet + strangler heart could be nice
Good point 👌
I think theres a vid by AngryTurtle testing that combo
As a newer player, Lone Wanderer now sounds like the first skill card you should go for. Most new players want to just explore the world on their own and experience the game so the *almost* free damage reduction and AP regen is amazing.
This sounds like a nerf to serendipity. The secret service armor everybody likes counts as heavy armor, meaning it adds two seconds to the cooldown for a total of three seconds cooldown. The current version has no cooldown afaik. So if you've got a super mutant hosing you down with a minigun, you'll only get to avoid at most one bullet per three seconds instead of 45% of all bullets with the current perk. Serendipity is the main perk that keeps bloodied builds alive, so this could make things tough. Maybe the new ricochet will help make up the difference?
I hear you. But yeah, the new Richochet will balance that out well.
Is there word on if we’ll get refunded the value of the perks in perk coins when the levels are reduced? Or is it better to scrap the old multi level perks and re buy?
Right?! I don't like to mess with my build and this is gonna mess up my character so bad I already suck at the game lol. Pay back my perks I paid bethesdont.
@@nervousbabbs2769 they change everything as soon as i finally perfect my build 👍🏻👍🏻👀👀
I scrapped mine already just in case since I can’t take the chance to miss out on perk points
So i have maxed out the perks: pharmacist,caniabal,caps collector, and hard bargain will i keep the perks and get my perk points back or nothing happens?
Since I heard nothing about it from anyone, I would assume no perk points given to compensate, unless you got them in animated version and you can claim enough cards to replace them later, I would suggest scrapping those before update comes just to be sure
Batteries included is huge for me. I have loads of ultracite fusion and plasma cores I can be a total tank now
These changes are going to make Unyielding builds a lot better with the extra luck 🤞
For people that crit every other shot, Four Leaf Clover will be amazing. I might even swap 50% VATS hit chance for 50% crit damage on my Plasma Caster, since I'm gonna hit every other shot anyway, no matter what my hit chance is.
I don’t use energy, I’m lazy 🤣🤣🤣 thanks West for all you do bud👍🏼💪🏼
Thank you man ❤
I'm also wondering what will happen to maxed perk card points when it goes from a 3 star to a 1???
i'm not gonna lie, this is going to be a nightmare for me. i have 5 characters all of which have at least three builds a piece (some even more) and going through all those builds to respec them will be a PITA. we shall see if there really is any benefit in the long run, but given all the recent nerfs i'm not holding my breath...
Fact so many potentially powerful cards are so cheap only makes ghoul single rank cards with cost 5 or 6 only more expensive, unless they adjust their cost too at some point
Really wish theyd just give us a actuall date on the release, early december could be 3 or 4 weeks from now, depending on your definition of early
I wish they would remove the perk coin cost for unequipping legendary perks and make them change automatically like the regular perks do when we switch builds in the punch-card machine. It's a hassle having to manually swap them when I go between my PA and non PA builds.
Love it, all of it!
Great video, very informative BUT you failed to list all the nerfs and glitches which are sure to be included somewhere...
what about a level 300 " general gutsy " with level 90 assaultrons following them..and a sentry bot ..with some high end loot ..it make a cool idea i think
Oh boy can’t wait to call in at work and stay home just purely building new commando tank and junk rat lol
With these near op buffs, some of the early vats nerfs almost make sense.
As a Bloodied Unarmed main in Unyielding armor...I already can't really die and 1 punch kill level 100 Super Mutants! Even with the seeming damage reduction nerf from Lone Wanderer...overall it seems like good changes around and I doubt will cause me any issues.
oh man, this is exciting stuff 🤙
thanks for the video, i think these are awesome changes
I think so too!
I personally see my overeater's build's changing a little bit.
lone wanderer is useless now, who has tons of points into charisma?
My thoughts exactly. As someone who plays solo 99% of the time, this change kinda sucks. 🫤
@TheRealNinjaGnome not to mention if youre a lone wanderer why would you be charismatic? i feel those two things dont go hand in hand. in fact one could argue youd need to be lucky more than anything. i may email bethesda and point this out. chances are nothing happens but closed mouths dont get fed
Love it!!!!
This change can’t come fast enough. The changes a going to free up so many perk points
what I want to know if you already raisd a cad to 3 and its dropped to 1. do you get those perk cards back or do they just vanish. would be nice if they just added into rank up points.
When is this update supposed to release? I can’t wait to update my build with the new perk changes. I recently got back into fallout 76 heavy gunner. I recently changed my main gun from the bloodied mini gun to a bloodied plasma gatling.
The weapon scaling could be the reason why
Ricochet stacked with reflective PA come at me railway builds
Fallout father!!!!!
On the Lone Wanderer perk it is at rank 4 does that mean it goes from 4 to 2 or is it being dropped to rank 1. I guess we will find out soon.
I already have a busted bloodied vats commando build, and it about to be more broken
Has the pts servers been updated to show the new cards yet?
to be honest, im more curious to see what they will break with the update, because they break something with every single update...
So what happens to say a level 3 perk to a level 2? Will the car automatically update? Will i get perk points ?
Is Secret Service Arnor considered heavy armor?
Only when you’re overencumbered
Yes, SS is heavy
All armor will now say what its classified as
Am I right to assume these changes will come out at the end of the current season?
I'm not sure if i missed it, but when does this change take effect?
my endurance is already in heavy use, rip, lol
Yep Lone Wanderer is 🤌🤌
is the iron Hyde perk good at all?
It becomes useless after you get to more than 300 damage resistance, so basically if you have secret service Armor it's useless asf but if you are a beginner (assuming you have poor damage resistance) you might find it worth using
Do we recoup our perk points with these reductions?
What I’m saying is a lot of my build cards are going from 3 to 1 so do we get those overspent points back?
Serendipity, Evasive and Ricochet perk cards were nerfed to hell. This is the worst update change ever! They cut all three to HALF their original effects. 45% trigger for Serendipity is now 28%, Evasive went from 45+ per AGL to 28% and now Ricochet drop down to 8% maximum.
It is a dark day for defense cards for Bloodied Builds
Unyielding wins big time!
Can someone explain to me why this is a good thing considering since I've logged on today literally everything can kill me in my bloodied unyielding build. To me, my entire build no longer works.
@@kavalogue I'm the same build. I honestly don't know how that's happening to you because I can stand in the Whitesprings Golf building with the 20+ ferals and Wendigo, leave the room, go make myself a sandwich, come back and my character be chilling.
@hutchhound3788 bro I don't either. Two bullets and I'm dead. Health no longer regens quick enough either for me to survive multiple unarmed enemies. I genuinely don't know what's happening. I no longer understand it
@kavalogue Well if it helps here's my full load out from what I can remember off the top of my head.
.Full set of Unyielding SS armor.
Relevent Mutations.
Bird Bones. Grounded. Healing Factor. Herbivore. Scaly Skin.
. Legendary perks (all maxed out)
Luck, intelligence, perception, endurance, strength and Funky Duds.
Relevent cards for bloodied builds.
Strength - Blocker (maxed out)
Endurance - Ironclad (maxed out)
- Fireproof (maxed out)
- Lifegiver (1 or 2 star)
Charisma - Strange in numbers (and join a team of course)
Intelligence - Nerd Rage
Agility - Evasive (maxed out)
-Dodgy (maxed out)
-Born survivor - (1 or 2 star)
Luck - Serendipity (maxed out)
- Class freak ( maxed out)
- Starched genes (maxed out)
This along with plenty of super stimpaks for auto healing. This is what works for me still.
@@hutchhound3788 i appreciate that rundown. Screenshotted and saved. I genuinely genuinely cannot figure out what's gone wrong, but it just looks like Ima have to go back to square one and start a whole new bloodied uny build. Probably base it off of yours. That's so wild man I've seen so many people cheering this update so now I'm sitting here like sob of course it's me it fks it all up for lmao
@@kavalogue I think it all depends on the weapon too. My main has always been a Bloody Explosive Choo Choo with a heavy emphasis on utilizing Crits.
Shreds through anything except the bosses.
Batteries Included is a Intelligence card... Huh.
When os the next update coming out anyone know
For me it chance nothing, the only thing i do is free roam events and stay in my camp ( like a real npc)
There is nothing els to do in this game. And this is the reason wy i play less and less.
Are they going to refund anything for the perk cards that are dropping ranks ?
These "balancing" changes are stupid beyond any understanding.
Scaling off stats just gives a massive boost to stupid low hp builds as with unyielding they get +15 stats which already gives massive advantage, now it will be even more op.
I really can't understand why they hired bunch of hamsters to do "balancing".
Aren’t they nerfing Serendipity?
It better max the effects at 15 and NOT 100!
Would be nice to just fix broken perks first. Even the drops from game
TURTLE DID IT
Yessssssh!!!🙏😑❤️🔥
Yes, but can they fix the power armor display already. Been at least half a year. Thanks Bethesda.Oh yeah and the crashes we should all know are insane.
last time I checked they had fixt it. but when it was broken I turned off the power armor hud display in settings so I could see the compass markers and now I am so use to playing this way I left the power armor display turned off. as for the crashes I think they are getting worse. I hope they fix the crashes before the game becomes unplayable
@keithday1982 yeah the compass was fixed, but about a third of my hud is cutt off screen so I can't see the AP meter or my power cores. Riparoni. Might just be an Xbox one thing, but if the X is having the same amount of crashes as the Xbox one, I think I should find a new game. And I don't want to.
and when exactly? I'm mainly waiting for the bugs to be fixed...
First lol
Confirmed and thanks so much for watching
Holy fire sounds even better now lol
Holy Fire is the best lazy person weapon. My only problem is keeping up with ammo for it (acid is a pain to farm). So I do a lot of Daily Ops and expeditions to stock up.
Okay I’m glad cannibal got a little something as well as bloodsucker to pair with it. Now all we need is dine and dash, and Cannibal recipes 😁🫀