How to Bend a Kick in Conduit
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In today’s industry. The installation of EMT conduit is increasingly becoming a lost art. However, it is still an approved method and seen frequently on commercial jobsites. In today’s episode of Electrician U, Dustin continues the series of conduit bending teaching us the subtle art of bending kicks.
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Before we get into offset bending basics, let’s take a moment to talk about aluminum conduit. Today’s sponsor- Penn Aluminum Conduit & EMT- makes some of the best aluminum conduit on the market. But why choose aluminum EMT over steel EMT? Well, it’s considerably lighter therefore it takes less labor to install and reduces wear and tear on your field staff hauling conduit around. Next, it’s much easier to bend than steel, again, making it less strenuous for your staff to install and using less labor. It’s also cheaper than steel currently, so it helps on the bottom line. Penn Aluminum has even engineered a coating for the inside of the conduit that helps with wire pulling and eliminates the snagging most often associated with aluminum conduit. Give it a shot, I think you will like it!
So you have planned your conduit route, bent and installed the conduit in the ceiling, installed a 90 degree bend to turn the corner, only to find out that you now have a 2” obstruction blocking your path. What to do?? Enter the kick! A kick is a bend that is installed BEFORE another bend (usually a 90 degree bend) that changes the elevation of the pipe to dodge an obstruction. In essence, it does the same thing as an offset would, with less bends (we only get 360 degrees before a pull point needs to be installed) and frankly, a lot less hassle for us.
To start, you need to establish the path you are travelling with the conduit, the height of the obstruction, and know whether you want to kick the conduit OVER the obstruction or UNDER the obstruction. Next, lay your conduit with the 90 on the ground so you can bend it. The direction that your kick will move the conduit depends on which way you face the 90. Keeping in mind here that you will be bending the kick UP. Visualize in your head what that UP kick will look like, then face your conduit appropriately to compensate for this. Another thing to keep in mind is that a kick is a single bend and the further from your 90 you go, the less bend is required to gain height. For example, if you are a foot from the 90 and put a 22-1/2 degree bend to gain 2” in height, that same bend made at 36” from the 90 will result in being well over 6” as well as leaving you no where to strap the conduit close to the 90.
Now that you have visualized the bend, come back the distance you desire BEFORE the 90 and hook the bender on. A pair of linesman’s or needle nose pliers should be slid UNDER the conduit to keep it level (these tools are mentioned as they are about the right thickness to accommodate and are tools electricians always have available). Now, measuring the distance from the floor to the bottom of the pipe and at the same time start bending the conduit. When you hit the desired distance, after allowing for spring back and the shoe thickness, you are done! That’s it!
We hope this has helped in understanding another of the bending techniques. Is there a topic you would like to see discussed on Electrician U? Leave us a comment in the comments section and let us know. Please continue to follow Dustin and Electrician U as we are constantly updating our content to assist our followers in becoming the best electricians that they can be.
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thanks for making the conduit bending videos it's really helping me develop in my current employment.
Kicking it old school 😊
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Nice. Thanks for the tip.
Great information
Thanks
The new the new tenants who takes over Dustin's Austin office are going to freak when they see the electrical demonstration area.
Surprised to hear that it's cheaper.
And the first 3 times I read the title, 'kick' was reading as 'kink' in my head. Crazy.
The formula for bending a kink is minimal foot pressure and pull the handle hard and fast….oh, and using the next bender size up helps too!😂
Kick is just a offset but you turn instead of going straight when you change planes.
Because of how small kicks are most of the time you need to do 22 and 10 degree calcs for marks because the 90 gain is in the way. if you ever need to run a rack the same.
Ho-lee-fuk
That lineman trick is genius
I've been struggling with kick 90s forever
Torpedo level works pretty good too
The simple kick, will save you time and time again.
Don’t forget your conduit will shrink about 7/16 or so for every inch of kick
It depends on the angle of bend. The greater the angle the more shrinkage per inch of kick. Same as for an offset
So a 1” kick the conduit will shrink 7/16”. I don’t think so. The shrinkage on a 60 degree offset is 1/2”.
@@adammorgan9304 exactly! Shrinkage per inch is:
15 deg=1/8 per inch of offset
30 deg=1/4
45 deg=3/8
60 deg=1/2
Another good way is to use your measure ment of the kick you need and whatever degree bend you want. Use your multiplier for that bend. Mark it from 90. Bend using the arrow, and it will kick it to your mesurment. It's basically a 1 point offset. It helps doing it that way when you need to minimize bends for code or preference for wire pulling.
You make good points. I had to pull branch wire in a building behind a guy who refused to bend a kick on a 90. It wasn’t that he didn’t know how to. He just insisted a 90 with an offset looked better. I’ll admit his pipework looked nice but he sucked at pulling wire and I’m guessing rarely ever had to pull wire through his own pipe runs. A lot of his pipe runs were well over 360 degrees between pull points. The only thing I would add is that you have to account for the distance between the arrow and where the center of the bend falls for the angle to be correct. It’s important especially when you’re running a whole rack of multiple pipes all turning 90 and kicking at the same time. They need to all be congruent especially when exposed
Was coming her to comment this
I'm not sure i understand.
Is it to know how far from the 90° to do your kick??
@@martf1061 yes, measure from the back of your 90 like you normally would the distance between bends for an offset. So for a 6 inch kick @ 30 degrees you would place your mark 12 inches from the back of the 90 but you would align your mark with the 30 degree notch/indicator on the shoe instead of the arrow
@@Ephesians-ts8ze ok thanks for the explanation.
Ill try it next time.
I usually "play it by ear" 🙂 and works well for me because of the experience.
Always good to learn new tips. 🙋
Next time, you could demonstrate a "goose neck"
They are 4 options for going over that obstacle.
What precautions do you need to take When attaching aluminum conduit to steel boxes are there There fittings that keep the 2 from reacting with each other
In dry conditions that isn't a concern at all, and NEC 358.14 allows for a combination of aluminum and steel where there aren't severe corrosion conditions.
In other words, play it safe and use like materials if you know the environment will be rough.
@@Timocracy wtf is the purpose of aluminum? It seems really expensive
@@fishsmell3939 Two things - aluminum is easier to bend with larger sizes (1" and up), and it's there where it's slightly cheaper than steel.
1/2" and 3/4" market is still dominated by steel, so aluminum in those sizes is still more expensive. For now.
@Tim C how can aluminum be cheaper than steel? Thanks for your info bud.
@@Timocracy cause I was thinking just being lighter would be nice.
Aaah that is what the electrician is doing in garage to put together the Tesla battery….very nice 👍🏽
God I hope my boss buys aluminum conduit again.
When material arrives, I'll be carrying 4 bundles of 3/4" or 3 bundles of 1" from the truck all the way to our storage room or wherever it is I'm running conduit at.
I'm feeling it when I wake up every morning
Sorry but there is no way in hell you are carrying 3 bundles of 1" in one go.
What boots are those
What does electrical code say about straps when using a kick?
Use them 😂 if love to see uncle Dustin's answer on this one
what I learned today 90+60= 180
2:20
😂😂😂😂😂
I have a question. If a gazebo has a copper roof, can I use copper water pipe to match the roof?
Copper plumbing pipe is not "listed for the application" to be used as an electrical raceway. Will it work? Yes. Will it satisfy code requirements? No.
We ran into a scenario where we were using decorative architectural poles in a library to attach lights to. The inspector argued that they were not tested and approved by UL labs therefore would require an actual "listed" electrical raceway. Even though the steel was 1/2" thick we couldn't run thhn in it like we would a light pole.
Maybe use a bigger copper pipe to cover over the approved conduit?
@@chris76-01 that or spray paint the conduit black or bronze.
@@Enlightn76 They really need to come up with a brass or bronze conduit or something other than the silver that conduit comes in. What are you supposed to do in aesthetics or places where the conduit has to be exposed but yet it clashes with the decor?
@chad rowland:
There is a red brass conduit available in 1/2" trade size only. I believe it needs to be cut Md threaded like RMC and have never actually seen or used it in real life.
Best I can tell you is UL and conduit manufacturers aren't all that concerned with asthetics. Most "decorative surface mt raceways" are hideous, ever seen a wiremold catalog?
2:40
The closer, the nicer, but the bigger the angle.
Further is uglier but the angle is very small.
I'm the worst conduit bender.
Practice
Please do not show how to bend a goose neck
Why do you move your hands around so much when you talk. It's like your signing everything. I've gotten so distracted by you hand movements I can't even watch your videos. And they're good. As someone saying. Like. Like like like. And like. And umm and umm
No disrespect, but this is appalling. The decline of the trade is in free fall. The things I see online and in the field these days… disgraceful.
Not everybody bends conduit every day for a living, and not everybody who does started with no bone pile up to their waist.
1:17 there’s too much friction in aluminum pipe, EMT is the best..!!!