EMERGENCY EVACUATION | Aborted Takeoff at Philadelphia
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At this time the cause of the rejected takeoff and evacuation is still unknown to me. I haven't found any related information to this incident beyond "mechanical issues". If you have more info, please post it here. Thanks.
**UPDATED WITH YOUR COMMENTS: The cabin rapidly filled with smoke and the aircraft needed to evacuate immediately.
I may be going off rumors and unsubstantiated claims, but it sounds like there was smoke in the cockpit and/or cabin, requiring an immediate evacuation on the runway. It would make sense if the pilots needed to turn off radios in the event of an electrical fire (or the avionics even stopped working after the aircraft came to a stop) explaining the lack of radio calls.
When was the exact date and time of the incident?
It was reported on another site that the cabin was filling with smoke rapidly. Source of smoke unknown at this time. I guess that's why the crew didn't have time to communicate that info to the tower as they were surely busy powering everything down.
@@mfs10131 Oct 15th, around 01:00Z
makes perfect sense to me, thanks. @@aviation_nut
2:43 The happiest “Hello” in the entire aviation history
the "hello" to the qatari was so pleasant lol
From AV herald "They couldn't taxi back to the terminal because the cabin quickly filled with smoke and had to immediately exit. They also emergency exited onto the wings."
Well at least there weren't any slides to replace
@@jonathanbott87 no, the slides would have been auto deployed as they are armed
@@ghostrider-be9ekCRJ’s don’t have slides
@@nickathans4949 oh, they expect 70 year olds to jump off the wings? LOL
Hey! I'm 76 and I can damn well jump off of a wing if I have to. We're not all old geezers! @@ghostrider-be9ek
not sure why, but you can hear the panic creeping into the pilots voice. something happened about 1:30
Got to be bad when you don't have time to tell the tower you are evacuting. Scary
Absolutely
Yups😮
It should be in the checklist.
@@EdOeuna The safety of your passengers and yourself are paramount. Sounds like this was a case of smoke filling the cabin, waiting an additional 30 seconds to make a call COULD means one's life. At that point 'doing a checklist' if FAR down the priority list.
And it's not like the controller didn't know SOMETHING was going on? He knew a plane was stopped on the runway, that's enough to shut down the runway, and no response from the plane means you roll trucks. The pilot making a call wouldn't really have changed anything in regards to the actions of the controller.
@@repatch43 - is that what they teach you at your airline? At mine you’d be in serious trouble if you don’t follow SOP and checklists, regardless of smoke.
probably a spider in the cockpit
That would definitely be a really good reason for some pilots I know :D
😆😆😆😆
Hahaha 😂😂😂
well, considering that that's one of the signs of an imminent fire in the cockpit, i'd say the pilots made the right call!
Or maybe a Karen in the galley...
A commenter on avherald claims that they were on that aircraft, and the cabin filled with smoke. Not mentioned in this audio clip is that passengers evacuated onto the wings, as well as by the stairs
Thanks for the information
That explain the evac. ty
I wonder if they were disappointed they didn't get to use any slides 😂
@@jonathanbott87 I don't think the CRJ has slides... the wings are low enough to the ground to jump off, and the front has built in stairs. There are only four doors total iirc (2 front and two wing)
Damn Phillies fans burning everything
I'm surprised they didn't immediately stop all ground movement with passengers reported on tarmac. Regardless, even without a pilot radio call reporting the deplaning, seems like a good job all around! Better to get everyone out ASAP then waste time.
You don't necessarily need to close the entire airfield due to an emergency deplaning, just the general vicinity of the emergency aircraft. That is why 9L was closed, but not the taxiways or the other runways.
Flight attendants and passengers frequently start evacuating without being instructed to.
Cute “Hello” from ATC and Qatar
Well done Captain. He saw something that had high risk to passengers and he said we're evacuating now period
Easier decision when stairs can be used vs slides.
@@North_West1 and when the cabin is filling up with smoke, you can't wait for stairs or a tow. When deplaning on a runway they try to avoid using the slides due to the inherent dangers of using them. Only when speed is important are slides used, or in an actual crash landing of course.
Or a passenger panicked and popped an exit. It would be unusual for the pilot not reporting they are deplaning. My hunch is they were running their checklist when they got the EICAS message a door was open. At that point they needed to shut down both engines ASAP. When they did that they lost the ability to talk on the radio.
Oh my word, I can't imagine how scary that would've been for pax and crew. Glad they made it off! Excellent work from the controller with such limited information, good on the crew for tackling the situation.
Something was going on in there. The Captain's voice was getting panicked and maybe short of breath. Maybe a noxious odor or something filled the cabin and cockpit.
Smoke, according to other commenters! Spot on observation.
Sorry, that was me. I had the steak AND the fish.
Would be curious if you can cover the airplane declared an emergency for Pottstown, PA airport, contacted FAA, and fire requested a divert to Reading, PA. Love the content!
That ATC guy can sure talk fast!
Yet was very clear
Yeah. In another year or two he'll be ready for ORD.
Honestly too fast, especially for people who’s first language isn’t english
I checked my youtube settings to see if I left it on 2x, realized it was just that the ATC guy talks crazy fast
Yep, fast to talk, slow to comprehend and respond to the emergency
no injuries to the five crew members or to the 76 passengers who were taken off the plane using stairs and then were taken back to the terminal by shuttle. The plane was towed from the runway back to the terminal
I love F21's heavy, heavy Philly accent. Best part of the video.
2:05 - Sounds like "Yeah, what's going on with the aircraft here at..."
Tower controller VERY calm and handled a crazy situation extremely well, I think. Would’ve been nice if incident a/c had provided some more info. It was nice that he informed tower that he had rejected t/o just in case nobody had noticed! Sheesh!
Funny that they didn’t advise the tower of their intentions, just…we’re gone.
Do you have any atc from the TUI Boeing that overran the runway in Leeds the other day?
Love the accent on F21.
Was probably smoke. If there wasn't smoke before the aborted take off the wheels would have become so hot from braking that they would at minimum be smoking. There have been cases of otherwise fully intact planes being engulfed in flames from a fire started by the friction from the wheels during an aborted take off- pilots are advised not to hesitate on evac for smoke now
When you realize you left the burner on at home before leaving 🏃♂🏃♂🏃♂🏃♂🏃♂
Maybe I'm the only person in the entire world but I was curious what the aircraft type for QTR7P was and it's apparently a 777-300ER.
I admit I was more curious about an airline using Brickyard as a callsign, apparently its Republic Airways who operates some shuttle services for other airlines and are based in Indianapolis. So the callsign makes perfect sense.
Today (Oct. 20) is National Air Traffic Control Day!
Grateful to all ATC helping pilots navigate safely.
Why K5 and not T? \m/
It's a shame that it's illegal to listen in and record airport frequencies here in the UK; we had an aeroplane slide off the runway today at Leeds-Bradford Airport, probably due to the weather; would have been interesting to hear the chatter for that one.
You can listen, but not record or broadcast. Airband receivers are freely available, and you will see many plane spotters using them.
@@phillee2814No, the relevant law (s.48 WTA 2006) makes it a crime to use a receiver to listen to a message for which you are not the intended recipient. ATC chatter is intended for all traffic on the frequency, but not for general consumption. The fact that prosecutions are rare to none existent is irrelevant to the textbook question of whether it is or isn’t legal.
We (the US) fought a whole war for it. 😊 That and you taxed our tea. Shame.
@@positivelyacademical1519 What a nightmare dystopia of a country.
@@positivelyacademical1519 Well, it doesn't bother me all that much, as I hold a licence, and for all I or you know, those other users may as well.
Can someone tell me- what brickyard is… is it a flight or? I hear it a lot. Ty
Republic Airlines, Indianapolis
To add to what the other comment said, the airline uses the call sign Brickyard because it's based in Indianapolis and the famous racetrack there has the nickname of the brickyard, as it was once paved with bricks.
Hmmm.. sounds like cabin hazzard evac
The CRJ900 is not made by Mitsubishi. It’s made by Bombardier
The whole line was sold to Mitsubishi, it is now the Mitsubishi CRJ900
Using air stairs for evacuation/urgent deplaning is likely easier decision. Slides led to injuries.
uhhh no.
plane comes with stairs in this case.
Can't park there mate
The tower controller was so far behind. Missed their initial RTO call. Didn't see them evacuating on runway. Slow to call ARFF.
This is what I'm taking away from that. I feel like if the controller was more responsive, the pilots could have conveyed more information.
You do know the controller is also busy coordinating off mic emergency procedures. Right?
I don't understand why aircraft stay on the runway in these situations if they can exit onto a taxiway. Can someone (like a pilot or ATC) who actually knows please explain. Thanks.
If there is smoke in the cabin then they want to get people off the plane as quick as possible. No time to wait for a turn onto a taxiway. The airport would probably close the runway anyway to investigate.
My company wants us to stop on the runway. Assess. Run checklists, then decide if we will stay on the runway or not. Focus on the abort and why rather than hurrying to vacate the runway. If I abort, the runway is mine.
Peoples lives are far more important than a runway being closed.There was one case where a plane caught fire on the runway and pulled off the runway where the wind flamed the fire and it spread all over the plane.
@@paulh6395so if he stayed on the runway fire still spreads on plane wind still hits
Several things:
Generally runways are wider than taxiways, so being on a runway gives emergency vehicles better paved access all around the airplane.
Others already mentioned the greater concern of getting stopped to address the problem rather than worrying about clearing a runway for the benefit of continuing airport operations.
Another consideration is that you don't want to bring a fire or potential fire to the terminal and extend the fire hazard to the building.
The only emergency that I'd express off the runway to the gate is a medical emergency because the jet bridge is likely needed to give medical responders access to the cabin.
Everyone give those poor souls a moment of silence for having to be stuck in filthy Philly a little longer then planned. 🤢🤢🤢
Weird one, this. If there was smoke, or even fire, wouldn't the crew want to communicate this to ATC? Rejected takeoff due to forgotten passports are much less priority than fire so in that case I'd understand not communicating. Weird.
And besides, evacuating lots of clueless holiday goers onto a runway seems like a really bad idea if noone knows they are coming. Yes, it's important to get people off the plane but I'd recon it would be equally important they don't get run over by a airport vehicles or blown away by takeoff blasts from the other runway.
When then cabin is filling with smoke, you don't have time to play guess on its toxicity level or on a possible fire to see whether you can notify ATC or not. No, you just assume the worst and evacuate. Saving lives is the top priority, and sometimes not following all procedures perfectly is what makes the difference between everyone making it out safely or dying in horrible circumstances.
@@stryker1797 Of course you evacuate. I don't know why you are debating this. All I think is weird is the choice not to tell anyone about it. Just letting people stroll around on an airport will cause deaths in itself.
@@avgeek-and-fashion- of course you tell others of the problem. There should actually be a checklist for evacuating the aircraft which should include communicating with the tower. You also should advise the tower of such an emergency because they need to roll the fire trucks and shut down operations in the vicinity of the distressed aircraft.
Seems weird to me to have an emergency so severe it warrants evacuation on the runway, but no one knows what the problem was. usually such problems are plain for any idiot to see. Maybe it was not an intended evacuation? Panic evacuation by passengers unnerved by the aborted takeoff?
I think a simple communication when they were communicating the abort would have been sufficient. "Aborting takeoff due to (reason)". Interested what happened here.
Reporting to ATC/other aircraft is a lower priority than making the aircraft safe to depart and making sure your passengers evacuate safely. We don't have the full information here but the crew decided that getting the passengers off now was more critical. And ATC was able to witness and react to the circumstances.
Reason takes time. A "callsign, evacuating" or if they knew "callsign, evacuating due to smoke" would have been good. Fire services would have been alarmed sooner if they mentioned evacuating on frequency.
Basic airmanship suggests that you get others involved by making one, if not two, radio calls.
Good job Qatari …you guys ….you guys are great . I’ll
Leave it there
I dont get what was the problem if there was no fire.
Someone said smoke in the cabin...anyway, the pilot did not informed tower about it.
Smoke is a serious concern, especially if you don't know where it's coming from
Yep. If I was on an airplane that started smoking, I would be seriously motivated to exit. Tough way to die, barbecued in a fuselage. @@OntarioTrafficMan
In most cases, it’s not the FIRE that kills…..it’s the SMOKE! If your lungs are filled with smoke (or a toxic gas), there is no oxygen exchange taking place. Without oxygen, your brain can’t function.
This seems like a repeat of the one the other day, a CRJ rejected takeoff on Phl 9L stopped and evacuated with no communication with ATC, about the same location on the runway! What's going on? ???
Same one, different channel
@@rona4960 glitch in the matrix
TWR “Controller” Is More Than Fast To Talk,
However More Than Slow To Listen The “ABORT TAKEOFF” Call For The FIRST TIME (There Were TWO !),
Not To Mention He DID NOT SEE The Aircraft ABORTING TAKEOFF !
These Specific Control Crew (Of All Involved - GND, TWR, APP) Should Be Put, AT LEAST,
To Do A Refreshment Through
CPaT Global LLC
Computer Presentations and Training
For Them To Have an Opportunity To Reassess Their Actions !
As so often, sub-par communications from the pilots who don’t seem to follow procedures.
ATC is talking far too fast i can barely understand anything he saying
Wtf is a Mitsubishi CRJ? Might want to check that.
No, I don't need to check it. It's OK.
Mitsubishi bought the CRJ rights from Bombardier. @BirdDog you might want to check that.
they should call the CRJ the Zero.
You might want to check that!
This post aged well. 🙄😂😂
There are a lot of failures in this incident... Would not be surprised to see somebody's ticket get yanked.
I'll feed the troll....please list the multiple failures...I should think that when Aviate, Navigate, Communicate becomes Aviate, Evacuate because people might die then everyone did everything correctly.
@@Tmsimonds ty
I’m not sure about getting a ticket pulled but there is definitely a breakdown in communication. There’s like to be an evacuation checklist which should include telling the tower of their intentions to evacuate.
As for “aviate, navigate, communicate”. They’re stationary on a runway, so the first two are taken care of. Then comes communicate…
This was ridiculous. How does a pilot abort takeoff without stating why and evacuate passengers onto an active airfield without notifying the tower. Unless all commo was out this was a horrible job by the crew.
When aircraft is filled with smoke
I mean, it's hard to say without more information if that decision was adequate or not.
Are you a pilot to judge their actions? Were you in the plane or near the plane to know what exactly was going in there so that they decided to immediately turn everything off and get out? You know nothing and are blaming the pilots for something you don't even understand.
When something goes down in a plane, the people on the plane face the consequences. The people sitting in the tower are safe. Communication is your last priority in an emergency
Unless this happened at night, tower have eyes they can see what's going on.
Easy, but tough decision to make. Do you get the passengers off and then find out it isn't that serious and then have to explain to the FAA, NTSB, your employer and your *future employer* why you evacuated on the runway, or do you just roll the dice and let everyone die?
@@Tmsimonds In case you just got to Earth II, that was rhetorical