WHAT IF Eren's Mom SURVIVED? | Attack on Titan
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- This video explains how Attack on Titan would've changed if Eren's mom survived. In this alternate timeline, Carla Yeager's survival leads to THREE different possibilities!
00:00 The Pacifist Timeline
03:44 The Civil War Timeline
07:57 The "Mist Ending" Timeline
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In this video I explain what might've happened to attack on titan if Eren's mother survived the first episode. Unlike my usual videos, this one was unscripted, so forgive me if it sounds like I'm rambling! Overall I had 3 main ideas for how the story would go if Carla survived. The first option is the "pacifist timeline" where Grisha chooses not to pass his titan down to anyone, due to the stress it would put on Carla and the rest of the family. The 2nd option is the "civil war" timeline, where Grisha does pass his titan to Eren and it leads to drastic consequences (with Carla preventing Eren from becoming a Scout). The final option is the "Mist Ending" timeline, which is just as depressing as the civil war timeline.
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Let me know which of these three timelines is your favourite!
Also check out some other AOT Theory vids :):
*What If Erwin Had the Colossal Titan* - ua-cam.com/video/8jDqw3OZldE/v-deo.html
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*AOE Explained* - ua-cam.com/video/3b8SFL3-xSM/v-deo.html
*The SEA Titan Explained* - ua-cam.com/video/JlOAr1wcHrI/v-deo.html
*What If Armin had the Armored Titan* - ua-cam.com/video/QecD7QK0AYo/v-deo.html
*The CRYSTAL Armored Titan Explained* - ua-cam.com/video/dDFkw7m863E/v-deo.html
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The mist is probably the one I like most, but you should do a video about what if Historia’s freckled Ymir never left with Bertholdt & Reiner!!
Mist for sure. The plot wouldn't advance if things were left to chance and the story wouldn't be as loved as it is if there was no one to really root for or get attached to.
But what if the Colossal Titan’s boulder hit another house instead of Eren’s house. Dina would still be alive
the pacifice timeline couldn't exist because Eren doesn't manipulate Grisia to kill the royal family, due to not getting the titians, and grisia would die to them
There is a 4th possibility that wasn't discussed; that Carla survived because Dina would have eaten Bertholdt and turned back into a human.
Then she would be fucked by the hordes of Titans right behind her
thats true
@@crimsonhunter7598 In the span of a day there would be hundreds of Colossal Titan users reverting to human only to be eaten again. If Bertolt failed to breach the wall then the Titans would keep eating whoever turns back until there are no more pure titans left to eat whoever reverts back
someone hasnt read the manga
@@EthanPHX None of what you said makes any sense. The hundreds of colossal titans in the walls are all mindless titans. Bertolt is the exception as his Colossal titan is one of the 9 titan shifters. It's impossible for a titan to regain their human form unless they eat one of the 9 titan shifters and inherit their power. They get to live for the next 13 years until they inevitably die from Ymir's curse or they get eaten by someone else to pass down their power.
Eren tries to save his mom.....
Spiderman 2099 theme starts playing
Spiderman 2099: it’s a canon event Eren…
Eren literally kills his mom
Read manga
@@historicallegends3702 what does it take for you to understand this joke....besides I've already read the manga....but considering if I didn't read it, why put a spoiler without spoiler tagging, you ruin experience of someone else as well...
@@vintageman136your humour was wastes on this mere mortal
Eren rly told Grisha “bro it’s a canon event”
Eren’s mother would have kept Eren in check and kept Mikasa close to him. He wouldn’t have deserted from the Scouts in S4, but up to Season 3 P2 is out of Carla’s control.
But he kept moving forward
@@novablast1695until all enemies were gone
She might’ve killed him to protect the world from him. 👍
She will never let him activate the Rumbling and he won’t probably think about it
Eren would still do the rumbling, because is the only way to end the titan curse.
It´s amazing how aot fans forget the entire point of this story
Eren:*Tries to saves his mom*
Miguel O'Hara: I'm Sorry eren... *It's a canon event.*
Golden
There is another possibility for Carla to survive without Dina being killed. If Carla had been somewhere outside the house while the wall was attacked. Then she would be shocked because of that big boulder on her house but she could still run away with her Kids. She would survive, Grisha would tell them everything he knows and Carla would support Eren. Also Eren would still have the possibility to activate his powers by touching Dina. With the extra knowledge they could train Eren's powers better and work out a plan to save and protect the island. Maybe Carla's influence on her son could even prevent them from the rumbling and make him choose a more political and thought out tactic instead on just destroying everything, including the wall.
i think carla would have sent back just like armins grandfather
in a situation that carla lives, while Eren is growing he will become a more patient and mindful person. Because kids like him will eventually listens their moms advises in further ages. Eren would use rumbling for only defens for paradis.
The most interesting question is: *What if the Curse of Ymir never existed?*
1. The Curse of Ymir never existed because Ymir died naturally of old age.
2. The Curse of Ymir never existed because Ymir's traumatic death have no relation to the rest of the Titan-shifters.
You can suggest other ideas in the replies
The show would have never happened, There being 6-8x less titan shifters is gonna change the timeline a lot
Imagine it never existed all this time and shifters were killing themselves on purpose
If the Curse of Ymir never existed would that make Ymir or other Titan shifters immortal
@@dantdmfangamingrich9802 no they epuld still be mortal just live longer than 13 years
Ummm
This was cute, glad to see we’re imaging the good thoughts and not…everyone dying
About that…
@@TorchMonke lol
@@TorchMonke About that what?
Because he killed his own mother
you should do a What If about Grisha never being manipulated by Eren, how the story would have turned out with him just being a doctor instead of taking the founder titan and give it to Eren.
marley Would find them
He would have died in Marley without Eren helping him via the Owl, if he didn't give Eren the Titan he would have been dead long ago, he would never have had the attack titan himself.
I asked the same question.. that just means that Frieda would still be the founding titan and let every Eldian suffer because she thinks its what they deserve
@@waytoguidanceit's not what "Frieda thinks" it's what "King Fritz wants". King Fritz was a pu22y that wanted his people dead rather than fighting back
I’ve always wonder how Erens mother would have reacted If she saw what eren did with the rumbling
Eren literally says: "What would Mom think" when contemplating destroying Liberio
You have disgraced me! You have dishonored our family!
I'm convinced that Grisha was not only asking Eren where his mother was to make sure she was alive and safe but that he was going to give her the titans that night. Eren telling him that Carla was dead, forced him into a corner where he had to give the titans to someone else everyone there would end up dead just like his wife and the rest is history. I've wondered what could've happened had he given them to Carla instead.
When the world needed him most, he returned.
Something that wasnt mentioned in "the mist ending" is that I feel like if Eren knew he had a titans power he and mikasa would probably sneak out of the cadets camp and train his powers, so he most likely wouldve been alot more experienced by the time trost happened and mightve even been able to use hardening, if this were the case I could see him actually beating Reiner in season 2 making it so the scouts would have never had to rescue Eren meaning they all wouldve survived. The only downside to this is that we know the warrior trio would sneak out into the capital to find info so they couldve ended up stumbling upon Eren training his titan.
You can't exactly be lowkey as a 15 meter Titan who summons a large thunderbolt to transform.
@@EthanPHX you can be far enough away for people not to notice though, for example when grisha turned eren into a titan to eat him no one else saw ( except shadis ofc who had been following them )
i just imagine titan eren and mikasa in a forest with eren squatting L style just listening to mikasa nodding his head to mikasas instructions
@@shika_628 XD
But hardening comes from the armor spinal fluid not by training
There’s a fourth ending. Basically the mist ending except the Boulder never hit Eren’s house. Dina Fritz would of been outside and Hannes would be scared but Carla isn’t trapped so all of them would run because the house wasn’t crushed. So Eren would active the founder with Dina and continue the series.
I have to say... Isayama is an absolutely stellar storyteller with an obvious gift for captivating diverse audiences. But his love of the macabre, the sad and the sombre is disturbing and I worry for him. From that "The Mist" ending to killing off Sasha, both times might I add, to all the unspeakably gruesome ways he kills off people in the series... Yeah.
i think even with carla being around it would be similar to the normal plot until they fully pass, erens mom would tell eren to most likely take advantage of being an MP to be further in the walls and eren being eren would probably listen to his mom especially if grisha sends some memories so he probably wouldnt join the survey corps because theres no drive in him other than armin to see the outside world
Freedom
I think this should go further back because Eren Kruger gave Grisha the Attack Titan knowing the sequence of events with a Carla. If those events didn't happen then his decision wouldn't happen.
Also, if Grisha came clean to his family, they'd hell him to come clean to the military considering all the walls have been broken. People like Erwin Smith and Pixys would be very accommodating to someone in the military gaining the Attack Titan power. The knowledge about the Other titans would also be with them because Grisha knew about the founder, and would tell the military to go get the founder before it falls into Marley's hands.
Bro I knew you would had to have done this what if eventually!!!
Also could you do a what on what if Erens squad survived?
Why don't just have Dina eat Bertholdt? That definitely solved a lot of problems for everyone on Paradis, Carla's life included. Plus, the idea of Levi get to knock Dina up as a way of getting back to Zeke is very interesting!
Also, I have this plan called the Heraclius Plan, which I believed can save Paradis and the rest of the world in Attack on Titan. The plan was inspired by how Emperor Heraclius forced Shah Khosrow II to accept peace on his terms in the last Roman-Persian War of 602-628. And I think it is possible for Paradis to do the same here. But what significant about this plan is that once Marley is forced to accept peace on Paradis' terms, Marley will not be able to immediately retaliate because the invasion caused by Paradis is coincided with the Marley Mid-East War and the invasion itself is also nothing but a rampaging campaign that destroy a lot of Marley's economy and public infrastructures. And to make the matter worse, Paradis used the connection with Onyankopon to entice a rebellion in his homeland against Marley's rule. acing wars on three frotns and manpower and resources are rapidly depleting, Marley will be forced to choose between international humiliation and economic collapse. The point is that after these wars ended with Marley's defeat, they won't be able to do anything to anyone because the Marleyan government will needed to focus on rebuilding the country's economy.
What do you think of the Heraclius Plan? And if you wanted to get the somewhat better picture of this, go check out the videos about the last Roman-Persian War of 602-628 out in order to get the bigger picture.
İf dina becomes a human again, i think its sure as shit that zeke will be in team paradis much earlier. And if eren becomes more chill guy, with Erwin living, maybe 5 titan powers, and rumbling would definitely enough to save all world and paradis.
Glad to see new attack on titan content ... it's the best ! 😊
Hey you made another AOT video! I'm the guy from Instagram asking when was the next video was!
Quality video. I like your reasoning. How long did it take to think all these scenarios through?
Love your what if videos dude keep up the good work 🫡
Quite an interesting what if!👏✨
The only reason I don’t believe the pacifist timeline can work, is because Eren has to inherit the Attack Titan in order to manipulate his father into stealing the founder. He would also be manipulating his father through the selective memories he sends back. Grisha likely doesn’t follow through the night wall Maria falls, and without Eren inheriting the Attack Titan, that likely means Grisha dies at the hand of the royal family. Or perhaps, Grisha never bothers even making the trip to the chapel.
something u missed was that dina was supposed to eat berotoled, and a scenario i could see happening would be tha dina really does eat berotoled and transformes back to human with the colossal powers. and this would be super interesting.
if grisha wasn’t angry about carla dying then he would’ve told eren to stop being spoilt 😭😭 “zeke, don’t let eren get his way, he’s a brat” lmaooo
Super interesting but I think there could've been atleast two other timelines in which they could save Carla before the smiling titan reaches her(by removing the rubble) or Hans just cutting the smiling titan's hand effectively not killing it, idk if the series would've gone differently but I think there would be no rumbling.
Great video
Now that think about it, isn’t her death a “canon event”?
Yeah lmao
If Carla survived, she would've never started beatboxing
i thought grisha's thirteen year period was about to expire.
You are completely right, if Eren's mom never died, then Grisha would have never given Eren a titan. The only reason he gives Eren the titan is because he hears the news FROM EREN that his mother was eaten by a titan.
And now because of the Finale, Eren said that he controlled Dina Fritz's Titan into going to kill his mom, which is actually impossible! This is because Eren can't change anything in the past that hasn't already happened, Eren couldn't have forced the Smiling Titan to eat his mom. In the other time-line where Eren only had the Attack Titan & needed to manipulate Grisha into stealing the Founding Titan for Eren, he would have needed to have the Founding Titan in the first place to control the Smiling Titan to eat his mom.
What if Pieck was on Paradise Island with Burrito, Reiner and Annie, would Pieck's choice of military branch be the Wall Garrison
Burrito??
Best what if episode
Oh good question turtle quirk.🤔
Remember Armin's Grand father was sent outside with a bunch of other people, if Carla was alive and Grisha returns to his family, Grisha would also be enlisted too along Armin's Grand father, which would force him to pass on his titan to eren regardless
"enlisted" more like conscripted
Don't forget that the ending of The Mist is so sad that after a few seconds of killing his family, he found out that he could save them 💔💔💔
My take away from the Mist was Hope…
They lost hope and the unthinkable happened, but remember the grocery store lady who left bc her kids were home alone and she left ‘safety’ to go to them? She and her children were on the back of a military vehicle. She didn’t give up Hope…
I like to think and theorize very possibilities such as this is what Eren foresaw with the powers of the Founding Titan through the Paths. Ultimately forcing him to go with the "best" possible/only outcome that would keep Paradis from going extinct. Even if it would take genocide on a global scale and still result in Paradis being mostly destroyed just a few decades later as we see in the manga's extended ending.
At the very least the his people still survived despite Paradis being devastated in some fashion regardless. Tough the ominous showing of that damn tree at the end imply history may repeat itself yet again. And that even may have long before even Ymir first stumbled across it. . .
Honestly I liked the 3rd Timeline up until the end, as Stan Lee once said that the guy who wins is who he wants to win as the writer I also feel there are multiple ways Carla could have survived the first episode, for example when Eren runs off apart from Mikasa chasing after him she could go out looking too and she could find him in the square then when the wall is destroyed they just head there Princess Diana is still around for Eren to use the Coordinate and Carla still survives.
But even if we used your 3rd Timeline if we remember Eren's first Transformation he was missing both an arm and leg and injured it was his pure rage that had him transform so if we had him access his rage once more and forces himself to transform maybe it could be smaller than usual because he was so injured but in the end he saves his friends and he could either carry all his friends as he runs away or instead of running away he could beat Reiner this time like the only reason Eren lost was because Bertholt surprised him so with Eren watching out for him he'd get Reiner and capture him then they could get the Armored Titan as well as the Colossal Titan in later seasons.
That's just my 2 cents at least, but loved the video hope to see more of this type of video in the future.
I like this idea because in the santa titans stomach he was missing like, 3 limbs. In the field in that scene, he was missing his finger tips. So he would be able to do maximum damage due to how pissed of he was. AND Grisha still had the founding titan AND Historia is a royal.
Another way the scene could play out is by Eren either somehow coming in contact with Historia, OR, he transforms out of pure rage (maybe without his hands fully formed) and winds up coming in contact with Historia later down the road. This would also possibly lead to the eventual discovery that Eren and Historia making contact is what allows him to use his power. (Much to the dismay of Mikasa) It CAN work in the bounds of the aot storyline.
Do you have any plans for potential what ifs about the show, besides eventually doing "Armored titan Armin part 2"?
In my opinion with eren not trusting people again I don't think he would have ever been kidnapped because he keeps his distance from reiner and burrito so I think that they wouldn't have to go on the rescue mission at all. But that's just me
Burrito?? Nah its Bertolotototo
I'd like to think of a possibility where Grisha tells Carla and Eren everything, and along the line, Eren agrees to go with Reiner back to Marley in hopes of figuring out a completely different way of saving the island. Like, he already knows that he has the Founder in this alternate timeline, so he could probably use this as a bargaining chip to bide time. Since he can't use the Founding Titan's abilities (which Marley might also want for themselves) he'll likely be taken back to Marley and they figure out a way to get an Eldian royal like Krista/Historia next. Meanwhile Zeke could already start making contact with Eren and trying to get the Euthanasia plan underway.
If in the possibility that Marley doesn't care about being able to use the Founder, just as long as the Eldians don't have it, maybe they'll just go on ahead and blitz the island as soon as they can. It'd still be a race against the clock for Zeke and Eren to collab before that, or before Marley decides to feed Eren to a new Warrior, not minding at all that the Founder's just gonna lay dormant indefinitely.
I had an idea for what if Girsha gave Carla the founding titan. Theories I came up with would be she joins the scouts, but then Eren goes with her. Another theory I had was that Eren inherits the colossal titan, and Carla meets up with Zeke in Liberio but instead of waiting she'd decide to immediately activate the founder.
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I've always wandered what would've happened if Marley launched a full blown attack on paradis instead of just sending the warriors, like what would grisha do, how they would respond to people from the outside falling in parachutes to invade them.
could you make this for diana as well?
Eren can send memories to his past attack titan users, could it have been possible for him to tell Kruger to save Diana as well, to have one child with Carla nd one with Diana. in the cave, Grisha could use the serum to make his two children pure titans and kill the founding titan, eren eats the founder and the other child eats grisha. Grisha could have already written all of future erens plan in a bag, he brought with him and then they could use it to activate the rumbling. Eren and the other child would realize, that their mothers died through enemies and would be angry enough to start the rumbling
What if Eren was born in Marley and Zeke was born in Paradis
Great video, I have to two things to add.
1. In the `Pacifist Timeline' If Grisha never give eren the founding power, then there's no way grisha would be alive, cause grisha couldn't bring himself to kill others and founding titan would kill him.
2. `SPOILER" for anime onlies,
There could be another timeline, where Dina ate Bertholdt instead of ignoring him, That would be even more interesting timeline, two titan holder and eldian supporters, Two of grisha's wives, knowledge about the outside world and titan. It would be one hell of a timeline
grisha bouta be in a whole lotta danger in #2
well if Carla is still alive and Eren did eat grisha and obtained the attack titan and founding titan, it is mostly possible that eren could convinced or negotiate Reiner, Bertholdt and Annie to join side with Paradis island to be free from marley if eren makes contact with them to see their past memories since he has the attack titan and the founding titan. Just my opinion.
But if Erin was the Founding Titan and screamed wouldn't he have commanded the Titans to not eat his friends and still attack Reiner? He doesn't necessarily need to see Diana to scream and unlock the Coordinate.
But he can't use the Founding Titan just by screaming, he has to touch a royal-blooded titan or titan user, that's why he could activate it when he punched Dina
Can you Upload a video what if Squad Levi survive during the expedition
What if Eren used the time loop to weigh his options
why can't it ever be wholesome?
Can you do a what if erens dad was in shiganshina when the colossal titan appeared
Well, depending from who Eren starts killing his friends in the "Mist" timeline, he will be able to unlock the founder when he touches Historia. So, some of them will still survive, though the Eren that makes it out from this timeline will be a monster, with no ethical dilemmas, since he would have killed most of his friends...
Imagine Dina (Smiling Titan) eat Berthold, become titan Shifter, reunited with Grisha, fix the wall, and they three (Grisha, Carla, and Dina) living together in Paradis.
Good ending.
Young Eren is going to be confused he has 2 moms
@@paaji2 polygamy for the win 😎
The way I see it is Grisha would have given Eren the Titan regardless of the situation and possible future outcomes. Even if Carla survived Grisha would have pleaded Eren to protect his mother and Mikasa with the power of the Titan. Grisha also strongly emphasised that he wanted Eren to find the basement and uncover the truth of the Titans.
Eren was bound to join the Scouts regardless of the situation and since he already desired to kill every last Titan Grisha most likely decided it was the best and safest option to grant Eren the Attack Titan so he could fulfil his desire to purge the Titans on Paradis Island.
Carla have been able to escape with Hannis's help especially since her legs weren't broken, she feigned an injury like that because she didn't want Eren or Mikasa to risk their lives to rescue her from the collapsed house.
Even if Hannis killed the Smiling Titan Eren still would have come in contact with the Coordinate via Zeke and Historia. Eren still would have learned about the Coordinate via Zeke and the Rumbling still most likely would have happened because he didn't want his mother to be put in danger again, wanted to protect his friends and the Island.
The Rumbling would have started, Eren would have trampled Marley and I think he would have been convinced to stop the Rumbling if Carla were there to talk to him face to face with Mikasa. If Carla could have spoken to him Eren most likely would have ended the Rumbling and end the Curse of Ymir without dying in the process.
what if it was just a different titan instead of dina that hannes killed? or dina just ate bertholdt.
what if carla became the attack titan after surviving instead?
Tho would it be possible like when everyone was about to die like Historia would have ran to eren and pick him up and in doing so she unlocks his founding powers
She would never have survived because Future Eren sent Dina to eat his mom so that Past Eren would be sent on a journey of revenge against all Titans, culminating in the Rumbling which would wipe out all of humanity except for those on Paradis effectively saving all of his friends from war and allowing them to live long lives. Eren was behind everything in the series, it was all planned by him, even in his darkest moments Eren was in control the whole time.
Timeline 4: Grisha gives the attack titan to Carla, due to her being able to make rational decisions.
9:09 he has dio, endeavour’s voice
What if gabi shot zeke instead of eren
He would've healed
@@nicoflight3982not from the head shot Eren only survived cause he pleaded and got the orginal founder from Ymir.
If Carla survived would there be no rumbling on Marley?
In my opinion on how she will survive is if Hannah's bring in his friends or buddies to lift up the falling wood on her leg and retreat her along with her kids if Hannah fought Dina or the smiling titan he would just die knowing even if his train he lacks the experience
9:37 new meme😂
6:33 THANKS Reiner
Ooh a what if story
That was brutal 9:07 ngl I started laughing too
My two personal favorite possibilities is that either A Dina eats Bertolt and manages to run away, eventually finding Eren and explaining things.
Or my second personal favorite, Eren in the field scene where he unlocks his founding titan powers, winds up transforming due to pure rage (All though it may be disfigured) and eventually comes in contact with Historia as she was there to, causing him to unlock his powers. This second explanation would also lead to everyone finding out that Eren and Historia holding hands allows Eren to use his full power.
This would also mean that he would be able to trigger the rumbling ALOT sooner.
Another What If? of Carla surviving I like is through unknown means, she survives being eaten by Dina and is just kept off-screen for the duration of AOT.
Until during Tyber's speech, she makes herself known to Eren, causing him to come up from the basement dumbfounded because he thought she was dead. I like this because it would show the world that Eren would be willing to just cease all violence just like that. No bloodshed required.
BRO WHAT???????? you can't access the full power of the founder if you touch a royal blooded individual, you can only access the memories. you can access the full power if you touch a royal blooded titan
@@Mr.Spoiler10 oh, I thought it just had to be a royal blud.
What if Carla wasn’t crushed by rubble, Dina doesn’t die, grisha tell the 2 about the titans and in s2 they would survive (but Hannes would still die)
I have an Interesting what if For you
What if Marcel Was Never Eaten By Ymir
01:11 - Anyone else notice the third hand?
12:43
Hannes is still alive.
i think a way to fix this timeline's messed up ending is to have hanness NOT kill Dina in the beginning
if we take it into perspective, Hanness is a drunken fool with no experience in fighting an actual titan, so instead of killing Dina, he may as well be able to injure her by slashing her foot or gouging her eyes, long enough for him to run back, save Carla, Eren, and Mikasa, and thus everything will go from here
As for what happens past the part where Eren touches DIna... no idea lol, im just giving an alternate good ending
If Dina have eaten Bertholdt then imagine what would happen to Grisha after Dina and Carla met eachother.
I feel like it would be cool to make a 4th possibility when Hanes didn't appear at the same time he did in the og story and Eren would've tried to protect his family and eventually touching Dina, awakening the coordinate and then just subconciously control titans to kill Dina. And from this point there's nothing and no one stopping Eren
this is the exact example if a time traveler moved a chair
Eren would have not even survived and become a titan if Eren didnt kill his own mother.
I think the reason why Hanns didn’t wanna kill the smile titan was because it was Dina and Hanns had a crush on her before she died
Manga readers will know it truly wouldn't have made a difference.
I need an aot what if series from isayama😭😭😭 there’s so many possibilities
Watching this after the ending is so funny
And the rumbling would happen if he makes contact with zeke immediately
I thought this was gonna be a happy ending but then everyone dies anyway -_-
The reason the first one doesn’t work is because erin made the smiling titan ignore bertholdt and eat his mom. But in this timeline eren never became the founder so the smiling titan would’ve most likely eaten bertholdt and wouldn’t even have made it to their house
Next up: what if you SHAVED the BEAST TITAN (He has HERPES??)
Without Eren wishing to unleash the Rumbling woudl he even tell his father in the past to go through with the plan of obtaining the Founding Titan? Furthermore without Eren having the powers of the Founding and Attacking Titan would he even be able to make that Time Travel? Otherwise it might be possible that Grisha wouldn´t have taken the Founding Titan and just kept the Attacking Titan which would have also changed the story.
What if grisha never left and turned into titan and saved carla
Or the 4th possibility, Carla isn't crushed by the house, and Hanes doesn't kill Dina.
Short Answer: nothing
(I mean nobody could survive in survey corps and paradise island with out soldiers Armin Mikasa And Eren yeager)
what would happen if dina fritz aka the smiling titan ate bertholdt?
Whelp… now we know it happened for a reason
It feels so weird thinking about him putting it together.
I still think that Eren would have joined the corps since his urge to have free will is too strong for his mother to control. Specially if Shiganshina was destroyed and he lost his home.
I think Grisha would have revealed everything to Eren and sacrificed himself to keep his son from dying while fighting as a scout.
I'm not sure though if Eren would activate the Rumbling or not but having family living in Paradis would make me want to activate the Rumbling even more if I was Eren.... even if I would be hated by them... they would be alive.
Eren share blood with Zeke and he is royal blood. They’re both 50% brothers so basically he will have a little control of the titans without Dina Fritz.
I mean, Eren was the one who sent the titan after her in the first place.
She couldve survived if future Eren wanted her too, but her death had to happen for Eren to become who he was.
Even if Carla survived Shiganshina she would later die anyway when all survivors minus children are sent to die to "retake" Wall Maria.
I like 3rd version but i don't think Eren would've died then he'd of been taken by Reiner and Bertholdt back to Marley where like Ymir he'd of been eaten having lost all motivation OR fought that he and his Mum live in Marley and when he reached his 13th year he'd be eaten happily for Marley to do as they pleased knowing this would mean the Attack and Founding titan is in their hands and the island after Erens death would be destroyed